make it here because me and the trick-or-treaters at my house tonight had a pretty good time but i was not the only one who celebrated halloween. i would like to show you what a group of governors decided to do for a group costume this year. watch this. >> tim walz here and i'm passing it on to one is going to build more affordable housing. >> tim walz here. now i'm going to pass the phone to someone is going to help lower prescription drug prices. >> tim walz here, i'm going to pass the phone to someone is going to grow our auto industry. >> i'm passing this on to someone who will protect her reproductive freedoms. >> okay, let's take a closer look. right there maryland governor westmore went with tim walz the hunter. massachusetts governor maura healey went for coach was.

new jersey governor phil murphy who i'm pretty sure has no idea how to fix anything in a car and maine's governor, jenna mills, both went with car guy tim walz. in michigan, governor gretchen whitmer opted for state fair, holding a dog is a pig tim walz. they did a fantastic job. i certainly think they had a good time and i hope you did, too. a very happy halloween to all of you out there. in many ways, it has been a scary year. maybe that will be behind us. on that note, i wish you all a very good night from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. happy halloween to everyone joining us tonight. hopefully you have some candy by your side. if you dressed up, i hope your costume was a good. to be honest, i'm not sure anybody can beat this group costume. >> tim walz here and i'm passing the phone to someone who's going to build more affordable housing. >> coach walls here and i'm passing the phone to someone is going to fight for the middle

class. >> tim walz here now and in a passive on to someone is can help lower prescription drug prices. >> tim walz here. i'm in a passive on to someone is going to grow our auto industry. >> those were democratic governors from across the country who decided addresses various versions of the democratic vice presidential candidate tim walz for halloween this year. meanwhile, the real tim walz was on the campaign trail celebrating a different holiday. this year, halloween happens to fall during diwali, the hindu festival of lights, so vice presidential candidate tim walz was at a diwali service in montgomery county, pennsylvania today to celebrate. this is what campaigning looks like on the democratic side of the race right now, trying to inject some joy into the race, celebrating american diversity, hunting for new votes in different swing state communities, but democrats were not the only ones trying something new today. earlier this afternoon, donald trump had a campaign rally in

albuquerque, new mexico, a state that no republican candidate has won in 20 years. there is no indication that republicans have a chance of changing that this year. there is no reason to think donald trump could win in new mexico, but that may not matter to donald trump because as far as he is concerned, he already won the state twice. >> look, i'm only here for one reason. they also don't come. i said why. you can't win new mexico. i said look, the votes are rigged. we can win new mexico and let me tell you, i believe we won it twice, okay. >> to be very clear, donald trump did not win new mexico twice. it was not even close. he lost new mexico in 2016 and 2020 but that is the truck campaign strategy right now.

go to a state he lost twice, estate you are not expected to win this time, and just say you won. there are five days left to go until election day and as donald trump spends his time campaigning and blue states, his running mate is spending his time talking to right-wing podcasters from the manoverse. trump and jd vance talked for three hours from everything from banning transgender individuals from sports to how [ inaudible ] can cause mass shootings. >> the moment where i really started to get rid pilled on the holdbacks thing was the sickest i have been in the last 15 years by far was when i took the vaccine. i had covid at this .5 times. i was in bed for two days. my heart was racing. i was like, the fact that we are not even allowed to talk about that, even though serious injury that even the fact that we are not able to talk about

the fact that i was as sick as i have ever been for two days and the worst covid experience that i had was like a sinus infection, i'm not really willing to trade that. >> we are not even allowed to talk about this, says jd vance, while talking about it on one of the most widely listened to podcast in the country. it should be noted here that the vaccine jd vance is questioning in that interview was developed during his running mate's own administration, when donald trump was president. it is clear that donald trump and jd vance would rather spend the final days of this campaign talking to their base and promoting the big lie than actually trying to reach the voters. meanwhile, harris is barnstorming through more battleground states. yesterday, it was north carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin. today, arizona and nevada for she just finished her valley in reno. >> listen, donald trump is not done. did anybody hear what he had to say just yesterday? it was outrageous.

he said, on the issue of reproductive freedom, he said that he will do what he wants because quote, can you imagine? we have an opportunity in this election to turn the page on a decade of donald trump trying to keep us divided and afraid of each other. we are done with that. we are exhausted by it. we are done with that. we are done with it. and reno, this is the thing. we know that this is not who we are. that is not who we are, and it is time for a new generation of leadership in america. >> later tonight, vice president harris holds another rally in nevada, this one in las vegas, where she will be joined by jennifer lopez. joining us now, john ralston, ceo of the nevada independent

and maia rupert, who served in senior roles on the elizabeth warren campaign. donald trump's weird thing that he keeps on talking about, how he is going to protect women, now he says whether they wanted or not. if i was donald trump, i would not sort of talk about doing things to or for women whether they wanted to or not, but regardless of his phrasing and his framing of it, is just not true. >> right, that's exactly right and i think that when we have moments like this, when we see donald trump sort of taking some of these positions, it does not make sense. he is speaking nonsense. very clearly what is happening is he is being told that he has a problem with women. he needs to try to appeal to women but he doesn't have anything to say. his policies are disastrous for women. he has an incredibly backward view of gender. project 2025 is absolutely

catastrophic for issues that impact women, and so what he is going to do is make these off- the-wall claims that don't mean anything, and the reason they don't mean anything is that he does not have anything real to say. >> john, nevada could become truly one of the most important states in this election, particularly if for some reason, kamala harris struggles in the blue all states of wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. if she loses any one of those, nevada becomes quite central to the decision-making here. tell me about the early vote. there is a discussion about the fact that statewide gop early vote 60 democratic votes but how is someone supposed to think about that? does it mean something other than the fact that you have a presidential campaign who is not actually campaigning against early voting?

>> they have changed. you remember back in 2020, trump was telling republicans, don't mailing your vote, don't early vote but suddenly they woke up and realized what a terrible strategy that was, so they frontloaded their votes. so, for the first time in about five presidential cycles, you have the republicans banking votes instead of the democrats, and there are some democrats who are concerned about that, but nevada's voting has changed. you know, the democrats won the presidential race here four cycles in a row. it has been 20 years since the republicans have won but things have changed a lot. we are now a state where mail ballots are very important and there are still a lot of mail ballots out there and democrats dominate and mail ballots so i would not say that nevada is definitely going in to the republican column, but the democrats have to hope that a lot more mail ballots and one other thing, if i might, there are a lot more independent voters now in nevada. the demographics have changed. the democrats think that the majority are going for them. they're going to end up being

about 28, 29% of the vote, maybe even 30% of the vote, so it is far from over in nevada, but the republicans definitely have an advantage right now. >> chris hayes was just having a conversation with bernie sanders. there are a number people who are trying to address this issue of disaffected voters who might be part of the uncommitted movement, might be frustrated about the harris-biden position on israel/gaza on the number of them are making the argument, as bernie sanders has, says i don't agree with biden or harris on this issue, but i agree with them more than i agree with trump. things could get worse under trump and we will not have certain fights to fight if you decide to sit this one out. what is the best argument for --? >> i think there are two very

strong arguments. one, i think on the issues people are concerned about, i think what people need to remember is that you never know. when you elect a president, you never know what that person is going to be faced with. you have to deal with how you have seen them confront issues, what their temperament is, and how they listen to people. i think we have already seen with kamala harris that she has listened to the progressive movement, the uncommitted voters, the people who are saying i don't like our policy in gaza. i think that impulse, that instinct to listen, that instinct to say i can learn something new and change my mind , that is what we have to vote on. we never know what the situation a person faces actually will be, but if we vote for somebody who's temperament we trust, that is what we are getting and there is a stark difference with the way that kamala harris has approached issues where people disagree with her, and the way donald trump approaches issues where people disagree with him and i think it is a

very clear choice. >> john, let me ask you about elon musk from his post on x. you would get the impression that he is fully running the ground game in several states to get out the vote in several states, including in the photo. of course, nevada is noted for that historic harry reid get out the vote operation. what is actually happening on the ground in nevada? again, the impression you get if you are following elon musk's post is that they have mastered the ground game in nevada and it will change everything. >> elon musk me know how to build a great electric vehicle and he may know eventually how to get to mars but he knows nothing about getting out the vote and as you mentioned, the harry reid machine is formidable. that is why the democrats have won every presidential race here since 2008, but the demographics have changed, and elon musk, if he has nothing else, he has a lot of money and

he has hired some good operatives including a guy who used to work for the trump campaign by the name of chris carr, who helped the governor win, the republican governor win a close race here in 2022. you cannot direct this stuff overnight. it takes a long time to build a get out the vote infrastructure, register voters then make sure they get them to the polls. the democrats have some inherent advantages over the republicans, not just the reid machine, but having unions who are part of that machine and nonprofits who are out there in the various minority communities recruiting people to register and then get out the vote. so, if it were a fair fight, i would take the reid machine over elon musk and of course, charlie kirk was also part of this. but, the problem is for the democrats as the demographics have changed since barack obama won the state by fairly large

margins than hillary clinton and joe biden only won by 2.5 points and now the registration is very close, so they are concerned, and no matter what elon musk is doing or not doing, this is probably going to be a close race. >> depending on who you're talking to, reproductive rights might be the biggest issue. immigration might be the biggest issue. across the board, the economy continues to be the biggest issue. it almost always is in every election. the wall street journal today has said that the next president will inherit a remarkable economy. a number of nobel prize-winning economists have talked about harris' economy and as a guy who studies this on a regular basis, it is a strong economy. is there something about that message that is not fully resonating? if people are economy voters, your choices a little bit clearer unless you are a billionaire, in fact, in which case you should vote for donald

trump. >> exactly. there does seem to be a bit of a disconnect. people say they are voting on the economy. they want answers on the economy. we have a strong economy right now under the biden-harris administration and harris has put out plans for how she will continue to help poor and working families pay for things. donald trump is put out plans that have been busted by economists regardless of political affiliation because they are going to be just catastrophic for working families and so again, there does seem to be -- people are saying they want to vote on an issue where it seems like there would only be one clear choice but again, i think this is one of those situations where people are being asked about something. they are not necessarily going to go to a website. they're not necessarily going to read a plan. what they need is

for people to make it plain and that is what these next two days are about which is why it is so interesting that donald trump seems to have given up the ghost on talking to new voters, bringing people over while harris is out there making an affirmative case. he seems to be taken the tack that he's only going to speak to the base and i think that we are going to see those differences play out over the next few days. >> one of the things you are seen very clearly in nevada, john, is the anti-immigrant sentiment the trump campaign is been talking about, some of it specifically anti-latino and hispanic, but some of it is not. some of that is anti-haitian and whatever. are you seeing how that is manifesting among immigrant voters? >> as you know, even though we are not a border state, immigration is been an issue going back many cycles here because nevada has a very high undocumented worker population, and a very big hispanic population that could be as much as 20% of the electorate and it has been well documented over the last few cycles that they have become more skeptical

of the democratic party and i don't want to suggest that the latino vote is monolithic but parts of the latino vote have become skeptical and in nevada, a lot of these are service workers in the culinary union. they were disproportionately crushed here in the economy by covid and even though they have recovered, there are still some people who are suffering. a lot of them are latino and some of the polling shows they are drifting away, at least enough to maybe put trump over the top here. there is a sense among the democrats that hispanics here generally make up their minds later than other voters. they could still be coasting for the democratic camp. that is what happened in 2022 when the first latino ever elected was seen lagging with latinos but exit polls eventually showed her getting to 60%.

harris needs to get to 60%. >> thanks to both of you for your analysis tonight. thanks for kicking us off. we have much more to get to tonight. i'm going to talk to the democratic congresswoman for -- from michigan but first i will take a look at the keystone state where the harris campaign will hold its final rally on monday.

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we have to go out and fight for this thing because i tell you what, the vice president is right when she says this. when we fight we win. when we vote, we win. win this thing for america. let's go. >> that is more than just words, pennsylvania, win this thing for america. minnesota governor tim walz spoke to union members in bucks county pennsylvania. bucks county is the only purple

suburb of philadelphia that could very well swing the must- win keystone state for either vice president, harris or former president trump next week. polls show the race in pennsylvania is locked in an almost dead heat with leads for either candidate well within the margins of error. as for the pennsylvania senate race, the incumbent democrat bob casey held a slim lead over his republican opponent. the last few days of these campaigns are crucial which is why today the harris campaign announced the location of its final rally on monday, right in front of the rocky steps of the philadelphia museum in pennsylvania, a state she seems to be betting on to win this thing. joining me now is democratic senator bob casey was running for re-election in pennsylvania. good to see you. thanks for being with us. it is down to the wire in pennsylvania both for the presidential race and even your race, which did not look like it was going to be all that tight a few months ago.

what is happening? what is changing in pennsylvania, if anything? >> great to be with you. the difference in my race that you are seeing playing out right now is the influx of billionaires, out-of-state billionaires funding 80% of the television advertising for my opponent, so you have out-of- state billionaires funding, in essence, an out-of-state candidate because my opponent lied about living in pennsylvania. he was living in connecticut but that influx of money over the last couple of months and the negative ads that come with it is the reason this race is close but we are going to beat david mccormick and these billionaires but the only way we can do that is to continue to have the resources down the stretch to get the vote out and to get our message out so i would ask anyone who wants to help us these last five days, with five dollars, $10, anything you can send to go to bob casey.com to help us.

>> how do you think about the strategy as part of a statewide election in pennsylvania? what does the strategy look like? is it showing up bucks county, which is one of the four counties around philadelphia? is it winning little votes in counties across the state that might otherwise go republican, but add up to a higher vote total? is it all of the above? what has to happen because the whole country is looking at pennsylvania. this is truly going to be where this all goes down. >> it is all of the above. you described it pretty well. we have to get our base vote out across the state. i do. so does kamala harris and tim walz and they are working at it every day to get the vote out, and the number of volunteers is

at historic levels. we are thankful for that, but we have got to make sure we get our vote out but then, in rural counties, we have 48 out of our 67 counties are rural and all of them are republican counties. those red counties, you have to reduce margins, but i think the way we do it is not simply the work that is being done by the volunteers but candidates like me have to continue to make it clear what the differences are in this race, just on basic rights. voting rights and democracy, women's rights, workers rights. there is no common ground between where i stand on my opponent stands. the same is true for the presidential race. our side wants to protect voting rights and we have been working to do that. republicans have blocked us. i'm one of those senators who voted for the women's health protection act to restore row. my opponent, were he to be elected, would block that legislation and the same is true of workers rights, protecting the right to organize

to strengthen unions. my opponent would block that, as well, that is true the presidential legislation her kamala harris would sign legislation protecting women's rights, workers rights and voters rights. >> i spent a lot of time in montgomery county for things continue to be complicated. voting in pennsylvania could be made easier. if you accept the fact that a citizen of this country has a right to vote you should eliminate all barriers but once again there are complicated things going on in philadelphia in the areas around it that are going to come up on election night and beyond. how worried are you about things that look like legal challenges to voting as opposed to counting in pennsylvania? >> i am concerned that on the republican side, they continue to try to erect barriers to the right to vote. they're going to continue to weave and spin conspiracy theories, and try to make it more difficult to vote. i would not want to be a member

of a political party where they want to shrink the number of voters. i want a big vote and i hope we get 7 million voters this time instead of 6.8 or 6.9, where it was roughly last time, but they are going to continue to do that. we are going to count every vote in knockdown every barrier to boat -- vote no matter who they are but you can already see them laying the groundwork to try to play games so if folks are concerned about her democracy and concerned about voting, in addition to coming out to vote, help us with voter protection efforts and other efforts we are undertaking to protect the right to vote, to count every vote so i would ask them to help our party and go to bob casey.com. >> because of the way the election went in 2020, those people in these democratic strongholds in pennsylvania take their role and responsibility very seriously

because they understand that there are a handful of places where this election will ultimately be decided and they are in one of them. is that motivated? are you hearing that? i am hearing that from my neighbors in pennsylvania, that they understand that the history of this country and future of this country might depend on the making sure that not only they go out and vote either before tuesday or on tuesday but that they make sure somebody else goes with them and that they have the necessary discussions and debates and arguments to make sure their participation is full and heard on tuesday. >> no question they get it and they are working at it. i can't tell you the number of places i have been, eastern and western communities in pennsylvania. the middle of the state, the northwest and erie and so many other places where people are working night and day. the number of volunteers with in pennsylvania and people coming from outside of pennsylvania to help people get it. they know what is at stake. they know her democracy is at stake in their running forth

the maximum effort. they are knocking on doors and giving money or contributing money and writing postcards. they are engaging their neighbors. they know it is all at stake in this election and i'm very proud of the work the people of pennsylvania are doing to get the vote out to make sure that their friends and neighbors know how critical this election is. >> yes, i hope the turnout is strong because folks there do seem to realize that this is crucial. senator, thanks for joining us. senator bob casey of pennsylvania. still ahead, kamala harris is running neck and neck with donald trump in michigan. polls are nearly as close for some down ballot races. i'm going to talk to elissa slotkin about her race for senate in michigan next. for senate in michigan next. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! sleep more deeply and wake up rejuvenated.

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five days out from the election michigan remains both a must win swing state for both presidential candidates. new polls show harris leading trump within one percentage of voters. meanwhile in the down ballot race for united states senate in michigan the same poll shows a tight race between elissa slotkin and republican mike rogers.

elissa slotkin holds a three- point lead within likely voters, still within the margin of error. more than 2 million voters have already cast their ballots. joining me now is the democratic congresswoman elissa slotkin. great to see you. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i was just talking to bob casey in pennsylvania. obviously the countries looking at pennsylvania but the other place we are looking at is michigan. talk to me about what you are hearing on the ground and what can make a difference with five days to go because five days of an election is actually an eternity. >> yes, i think we are seeing amazing energy first and foremost. it is hard to deny between our absentee voting rates, early voting rights, particularly in the city of detroit, we just are setting records for something that is relatively new for us but there are a lot of people who avoid politics altogether. they can't stand it and so they

don't watch the programs in tune in and all that kind of stuff and they are still making their decisions, so that is why you've got to be a pounding the pavement and talking about issues that people care about, which is what we are trying to do all day everyday. >> let's talk about that, issues that people care about. in michigan there has been criticism on two fronts. one is the uncommitted arab and muslim vote in the other is workers. talk to me about how you think about these two things because the harris campaign in particular says they are doing both. they're reaching out to both groups of people but there have been criticisms even from some of your fellow electeds in the state who say that the national campaign can do a better job. do you believe that, and are you doing a better job in your campaign?

>> i think the number one issue for 19 months that i have been running up and down the state of michigan, no matter where you go, is the economy, inflation and just people feeling like they want to do better and if you're not talking to those issues, then you're only having half a conversation and i think in particular, just making sure people understand that the manufacturing boom we have going on in michigan right now, 44 new factories that we have being built from the ground up, or because of largely bipartisan or democratic initiatives, and of good governance, of investing in our supply chains and just making sure that people understand that if you want to have more money in your pocket we need good jobs, jobs with dignity, jobs with benefits, union jobs so those are the kinds of things we try to talk about because the number one issue by far more than anything else in the state of michigan is the economy and it is on us, those of us who are running to make that case and to go to people even when they don't want to be engaged by campaigns. >> i am often confused by this because this argument about how donald trump and republicans are better for the economy is just empirically not true. every economist you talk to,

all these nobel economists but they say things and people believe things, so what does it actually take when you knock on the door and you have a conversation with someone who tells you they want to vote for your opponent because of the economy, what do you actually say that? >> just to be clear, i'm sure those nobel economists are great but there are plenty of people right now who don't have enough money in the pocket, who feel like they're making choices between groceries and pharmaceuticals and sending the kid to summer camp and that is a real thing on this idea that somehow people are just wrong about their own family finances , i take issue with and i can show you the math on lots of people. it does not help anyone to pretend that is not going on but i think the conversation the sort of where -- there are things we can do to keep more money in your pocket. number one again, those good jobs of dignity.

number two, attack the costs that are draining your finances -- healthcare, prescription drugs, housing, childcare, those kind of things that are eating up your money the number three, keep more money in your pocket with the tax code that actually favors middle-class people as opposed to the ultra- wealthy and those are the things that democrats are championing, that i know i feel very strongly about. it is not a silver bullet. there is no silver bullet to fix this. those are things we can work on together to actually ease some of that economic pain. >> what happens in the last five days with this group of people i continue to be surprised by arab and muslim leaders getting behind donald trump. what is the last message that can be said to members of that community who continue to feel in some cases there feeling hurt and in some cases the harris campaign is having meetings with them but you got to get their vote, too. >> there is no way to understand how the issues in the middle east are roiling the state of michigan and it is

personal. we are integrated. we live together, we go to school together, we work together. we are friends. everybody here is friends but it has created a ton of tension. all i can tell you is that we all know that we need a negotiated cease-fire. we are working and trying again on just a 10-day cease-fire right now. it is not perfect but i certainly think the question is, who would you rather have in the oval office listening to that is kamala harris over donald trump any day of the week. >> congresswoman elissa slotkin is running for the senate seat in michigan. coming up, others who stand to gain power and influence in the second trump term is next. stay with us.

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robert f kennedy cares more about human being's and health and the environment that anybody and i'm going to let him go wild on health. i'm going to let him go wild on medicines. >> i'm going to let him go wild on the food. sounds like me at a buffet. donald trump is promising that if he is elected he's going to elect conspiracy theorist and vaccine objector go wild on health, food, and medicine. >> the key that president trump has promised me is control of

the public health agencies, which are hhs and some agencies , cdc, fda, nih and a few others. >> for what it is worth, last nights truck transition team co- chair howard let nick said rfk junior will not actually get an official role within the administration, but in the same breath, not only repeated are of kate junior's thoroughly debunked claim that vaccines cause autism, which they don't, but went on to explain how trump could empower rfk junior to and vaccines as we know them with or without appointing rfk junior to any sort of official role. >> all of these actions came out without product liability so autism [ inaudible ]

>> this is why people are concerned that he could get a job like hhs. >> is as if you give me the data, all i want is the data and i will take on the data and show that it is not safe and that if you pull the product liability the companies would yank these vaccines right off of the markets. >> yank the vaccines right off the market. i don't know about you but after all these years of covid, i would really rather not see vaccines, preventable diseases like measles and polio making a comeback because vaccines are pulled off the market but that is the reality we could be living in if trump is elected because he would give power to all sorts of people that he surrounds himself with. >> the most effective thing to tell people is that they're not just voting for trump and not just voting for kamala. they're voting for an apparatus and with trump you're voting for me. you are voting for elon musk. you're voting for tulsi. that's supposed to get people to vote for trump. today with five days left in --

before the election, trump spent tuesday on this bone with the leader of hungary, viktor orban, who wish trump luck. that is how donald trump started his day. he is ending it with a live interview with the far right political commentator tucker carlson. these are the people donald trump is choosing to surround himself with. these are the people that he could let go wild if he wins. >> what would your role for elon musk be? >> elon has a lot of roles he could take because he is a very exceptional guy. >> i don't know but i think he's a terrific guy. i think he was treated very unfairly. >> can you say yes or no whether you have talked to vladimir putin since you stopped being president? >> i don't comment on that but i will tell you that if i did, it's a smart thing. coming up we turned for the swing state of north carolina. josh stein joins me next. join y

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five days out from election day. north carolina remains a close race. democrats are seeing mixed signals. one might spot is cnn showing harris winning all important suburban voters by 11 points. same time democrats are worried about black voter turnout. 18% of votes cast so far in north carolina have come from black voters. political reports that some democratic operatives say they must bump it up to 20% for harris to be competitive statewide. joining me now to discuss north carolina democratic gubernatorial josh stein. i have been asking everybody about this. the early vote switch between last election and this election in my opinion you don't have trump telling you not to early vote and mail in vote.

why does it matter to you that, you know, some of the votes are coming from some places and not others, you still got until tuesday to win this election? >> reporter: there is no question. your analysis is right ali. a lot of it is people who voted last time voting in person. a lot of people that voted by mail who are voting in-person early. we have about four million people who cast their ballots here in north carolina. a lot of folks. the electorate will be 5 1/2 million. a million and a half people over the next twoi das of early voting and election day that will cast their ballot. we never know what the ultimate composition will be. the reason you want your people to vote early is so when you are out there knocking on doors and encouraging your people to go and vote you want to have a smaller pool to try to encourage to go. >> let's talk about that. let's talk about the get out and vote situation. this is such a close election across this country and states

like your that could become all important on election night. tell me about how that is looking. many cases it will be about who can convince their voters to get out there and vote. >> reporter: no question. north carolina elections are always close. almost always go down to the wire. we were three of the last four elections for president north carolina was the closest state either democrat won in 2008 or lost in '12 and '20. getting our people out to vote is a critical part about what we are about. the campaign has 200 fieldworkers, 30 field offices, i have confidence in what we have been doing on the ground is more impactful than what the republicans are doing. we have to prove it come election day. that is what we are going to focus on over the next four to five days >> talk to me about north western carolina and asheville and voting there are a number

of counties effected by the hurricane, continue to be effected. how is that working out right now? >> it is encouraging. as the turnout in western north carolina. it is similar to what it was. people's lives have been turned upside down. too many lives have been lost. too many houses and businesses damaged or destroyed. but, people care deeply about their state and their country and they are getting out there to vote. i am happy about that. >> talk to me about the effect of your race for governor come is unusual. every year there are a couple governors races that are wild and unusual. josh shapiro had one and now you got one with a unusual candidate you are running against running against the deputy governor. the lieutenant governor. talk to me about how that plays into the presidential race or

vice versa? >> the election is going to be close. it tightening up. people tend to go back to their respective corners. we are still working our tails off to win this election. still communicating, still knocking on the doors. if folks want to help, help me, help the other races that are close in north carolina they can go to joshstein.org and we hope, what we hope is we are part of an effort that lifts all votes. we have incredibly important council race. a number of districts that are wire to wire, neck to neck. we have to break the super majority here in north carolina. one vote shy in each chamber. if we can do all of the work we know we need to do over the next five days we can make it a great year for north carolina and a great year for our country. >> what are you hearing about the closing message needs to be for the next five days that are not there yet, maybe are there and not committed to voting

what is the thing they need to hear to put them over the top. >> i think it is that we understand that people are struggling economically and costs are higher than what they are used to. we have a message that is focused on lowering costs, housing costs, medical costs, health care costs and we want to put more money in their pockets targeted cut going to middle and working class families. >> josh stein good to see you north carolina, josh stein is running for governor of north carolina good luck in your race next week. that is our show for tonight. catch us back here weekends 10:00 a.m. eastern. time for the last word with my good friend lawrence o'donell. lawrence, when you think you can not get surprised in this election you get one trump is going to protect women when they like it or not. >> it does not seem to be working