dom has a whole family. and he's so happy about that. and, you know, he says i got a mommy in heaven, and i got a mom here. keith morrison (voiceover): in time, laura and john got engaged, and the nelson family grew by a few more. just one empty place. but you never fill the hole in your life, do you, when you lose a child? no. keith morrison: how often do you think about jessica? missy nelson: every day. harry nelson: every day. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm andrea canning. thank you for watching.

a good morning and welcome to this saturday edition of "morning joe weekend." let's get to the conversations from the past week you might have missed. >> half of the country was called garbage. >> they are absolute garbage. >> any time you call half of americans garbage pick >> is the enemy from within. all of the scum that we have to deal with. >> we see a lashing out, a stubborn sort of retribution holding individual. >> i am your retribution. >> this is the kind of divisive rhetoric that we need to get out of politics. >> we are up against very bad, evil people. >> they are practicing out words that signify hate. >> the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. >> he came across as extremely harsh and it was meant that way. >> this group is stupid but they are vicious. they are stupid people but they are vicious people. >> perhaps that's really how he feels about half of the

american public. >> so many sick, deranged people. >> this is what they think of middle america. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? >> this is what they think of the south. >> they said, sir, don't talk about these people this way. i said, i don't give a -- >> where do i begin with the average on fox news about joe biden using the word, garbage, and muffling his words? he meant something different he said that he used the word, garbage, and it was a bummer. so what? because that kamala harris said, i separate myself from that. that's not what i believe. i don't believe that's what he meant either. but she addressed that happened. see you have a one side former president who made in a statement, made a statement that perhaps was not okay. and the candidate, she is the one running, not joe biden, saying, look, i don't agree with that and that's not what he meant. but that's not the kind of thing that i think of saying. i just want to know when donald trump will ever be asked to be accountable since kamala harris

is being held accountable for what joe biden says. you all know joe biden's heart, you know who he is, you know what you are doing. but still. fair is fair. so kamala harris actually faces the music, talks about it, doesn't pretend it doesn't exist . and all of these hosts, not serious people, pretending donald trump has never used the word, garbage, carnage, these people are poison. he's never denigrated entire communities, entire cities? he has never insulted and demeaned people? fools. all will pay if you get your way. and for what you are working. and you, yourself, republicans and those who are sucking up to trump, bending to as well, don't understand.

mike johnson. are you kidding me? first of all, donald trump has no replacement for obamacare. he never has. in eight years he said i'm going to get rid of in two weeks and replace it, he never did. so we get it for how many million americans? just think that healthcare way? explain that. because that too is on the front page of the new york times in its own special way, as it's not being covered. >> one of the stories about this election, this election year, is the false equivalency of coverage of joe biden and everyone else, actually. joe biden, you know, consort of step going up the steps from a plane and be on the front page of every american paper. donald trump can call this country a loser country, we are fading, we are dying. >> his words were, suckers and losers. end of story. >> this is arguably the greatest paper the world. i'm referring to the new york

times. again, on the front page of this paper, biden misstep delivers -- to harris foes. basically, the story is talking about in referring to it as sunday nights trump rally at madison square garden in saying what the supporters did, supporters, he referenced one person. the comedian who slurred, demonstrated puerto rico and all puerto ricans. one person. he referred to the person as, he, in the rest of what he said. it's been blown up into an epic misstep that everyone has to apologize for and has driven part of the news for several days that has driven fox tv crazy. >> on a loop. they had a thing on a loop all day long. >> it's ridiculous. freedom is more than simply freedom from constraint. freedom involves

responsibility. what is a mean to be responsible for democracy? what does it mean to be responsible as the editors and one of the greatest in the world? i would say this. and i say it this way. i understand the politics. i understand the politics. but you have focal believe that most people look down on them. it's what's driving. that the smart, egghead people, these limousine latte drinking people can stand regular folk. i get that. but these people can call folk, vermin. think about what they were calling the haitians in springfield. think about what they called the folks. they can say all of the ugliest things in the world about people like me. and when they get called to the carpet they clutch their pearls. it's a kind of rhetorical handcuffed. you can't say, you can't respond to the office early when they are attacking your very humanity because then it

gives fuel to their sense that you are looking down upon them. and it just angers me. >> you got to keep it real in these final days. all news organizations. we will have much more of "morning joe weekend" after the break.

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we have an opportunity in this election to turn the page on a decade of donald trump, who has been trying to keep us divided and afraid of each other . we know that is who he is. but more north carolina, that is not who we are. it's not who we are. it is time for a new chapter when we stop with the pointing fingers at each other and, instead, let us lock arms with one another knowing we have so

much more in common than what separates us. >> as for donald trump, he was in green bay, wisconsin last night when he had this message for women. >> my people told me, about four weeks ago, i want to protect the people. i want to protect the women from our -- of our country. this said, please don't say that. they said, we think it's very inappropriate for you to say. so what, i president. i want to protect the women of our country. they said, sir, i think it's inappropriate for you to say. i pay these guys a lot of money.

can you believe it? i said, well, i'm going to do it whether the women like it or not. going to protect them. i'm going to protect them from migrants coming in. i'm going to protect them from foreign countries that want to hit us with missiles and lots of other things. >> a perfect example of what we have been talking about all week. the normalization and the distortion of truth and lies. the protector of women? this is a man who passed, who overturned roe, and there are such strict abortion bans in place that women who need life- saving healthcare are not getting it. the outcomes are horrendous. women are living the results of trump's lies, distortions and threats come true. again, the protector of women? that is about as opposite as it can get. he does that a lot. most of msn d.c. inside with jen sake joins us. special correspondent at vanity fair and host of the vast politics podcast, molly. and president of the national action network and host of msnbc "politics nation" reverend al

sharpton joins us. have you all on board. jen, i will start with you. i don't know how to drive the point home anymore than to spell out the actual realities that women are going through right now and then here donald trump say that he is going to be our protectors whether we like it or not. that is definitely a threat. >> no kidding. look, we will see what the election looks like on tuesday and we'll see what impacts the election most. i have no doubt about one thing. women, and i will also add in there, white women, who have voted for trump in the last two elections by 11 points four years ago, and by 9.8 years ago , could be a huge force here. and the reason why is because something is at risk for them. abortion rights. it doesn't

matter if they are registered democrats, if they have never voted for a democrat before, if they are not telling their husbands that they are voting for kamala harris. this is a huge, driving issue. we have seen it in every special election. we've seen it in 2022. when he makes comments like that, which i heard is also completely condescending, that nobody wants your protection, first of all. but your version of protection, whether you like it or not, is forcing women to carry babies to term, even if it's not viable, even at risk of sepsis. that's what women should hear. >> i think women will be the beacon in this election. some people are making their vote in private. i also think there's a lot of husbands who will be voting for kamala harris because of women's healthcare. we have seen story after story

of husbands who have been traumatized by watching their wives go through the unbelievable torture of not receiving the life-saving healthcare that is literally three feet away from them in an e.r. but the doctors can't bring them. what about those doctors and nurses? twisted inside because they do want to get arrested and yet they can't save a life? i think there are a lot of ripple effects that makes this election and women's access to life-saving healthcare and issue that is not just for women , but for men too. >> absolutely. men who were voting to save their daughters from the draconian lack of healthcare that donald trump has brought to this country. women of america don't need to be

protected from all the things that donald trump is tossing around. we need to be protected from donald trump. exactly. exactly. molly, what are you hearing about this phenomenon of women unnecessarily sharing their vote with husbands? sometimes if you don't want to fight with your spouse about something you just leave some topics out of the conversation. >> we were talking about this in the green room for 20+ years. there are sometimes were your husband doesn't need to know how much it costs for how you voted. don't tell my husband i said that. the husband comes out and says, we are a trump household and we see the wife, or the daughter. and you know, your vote is private.

that's your power and harris has talked about that so well. this is your power, no one needs to know, you vote your conscience. >> can i say one thing? the audacity of donald trump to get up on stage in wisconsin with brett favre, disgusting. that's the kind of man we want to be protected, yes, protect us from men like you. >> the choice is so clear, do you want the guy that's obsessed with grabbing genitals? that has been found liable of sexual abuse? who seems obsessed with talking about male genitals and the size to a crowd of people at the most pivotal time in our history? i'm not even trying to be funny . this is what happened. or do you want to vote for the woman who wants to try and figure out how to deal with these strict abortion bans, healthcare bands that have been put in place by donald trump.

this is the moment for women. this is the final hour for women. talking to stevie nicks this week, be the lighthouse. women of america, be the beacon of warning and talk to young people and get them out to the polls on this issue because women, this is your future. we are living in now. the stories are real right now. it's happening now and it's a nightmare. coming up, the washington post decision not to endorse a 2024 presidential candidate has sparked thousands of cancellations of digital subscriptions and some resignations at the paper. the former executive editor marty baron joins us with his thoughts next. you are watching "morning joe weekend." we will be right back.

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the washington post this morning is being hit with a wave of cancellations to subscriptions after the paper owner jeff bezos blocked an endorsement of kamala harris for president. npr is reporting more than 200,000 people have canceled their digital subscriptions. the decision not to endorse has also sparked resignations. one editorial member stepped down put out a statement writing, our silence is exactly what donald trump wants. meanwhile, explaining the decision to block the endorsement titled, "the hard truth" americans don't trust the news media. presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election. no undecided voters in pennsylvania are going to say, i'm going with the newspaper endorsement. none. ending them is a principal decision and it is the right one. he continues, i wish we had made the change earlier that was

intentional and not some strategy. no quid pro quo is at work here. one of the -- met with former president donald trump on the day of our announcement. i sighed when i found out because i knew it would provide ammunition to those who would like to frame this as anything other than a principal decision. but the fact is, basals rights, i didn't know about the meeting beforehand. there's no connection between it and our decision on presidential endorsements and any suggestion otherwise is false. it is worth noting usa today and the los angeles times also not endorsing a candidate the 2024 presidential race. joining us now, former executive editor of the washington post, marty baron. marty, you have been outspoken on this in the last couple of days. what is your reaction to jeff basals this morning?

>> well, i'm glad he spoke out. i'm glad he said what he felt he needed to say and provide some sort of explanation for his reasoning. it's clear that he was involved in the decision despite the company statements suggesting he wasn't. the look, the washington post has been issuing endorsements for almost a half century. what caused them to start doing endorsements in 1976? it was watergate. there was a president who is abusing power, was weapon eyes in government. that's an issue that exists today. it was certainly relevant during this presidential election. they only have one exception. in 1988, under jeff basals ownership, they provided a presidential endorsement in 2016 and 2020. highly critical of donald trump in both of those presidential endorsements. this is not a way to inspire trust to cancel an endorsement a couple of weeks before one of the most consequential elections in u.s. history. >> marty, you've been a great

steward for this paper, the washington post. i'm curious what you make of basals thesis. those in the legacy media have completely lost the trust of the public, that they fall rank somewhere below congress now in terms of trust. and that being nonpartisan is an important way to get back the trust, which is to say, not to take sides and alienate half the country. what you make of that argument? >> trust is a very complicated subject. it's a very serious discussion and research. there has been a lot of research. there's nothing that really suggests that not running a presidential endorsement increases trust. it's something that clearly every news organization should be working on. it's a totally reasonable decision at some point if you say you don't want to run presidential endorsements, we do want to run political endorsements of any type but you don't do that two

weeks before the election. with the could have done here is simply issue an endorsement in the selection, and they had a draft endorsing kamala harris, and then they could have waited until after the election and said, we don't intend to do this anymore, we don't think it's the right thing. but also political endorsements and other high profile. at the same time, it's also writing editorials on highly charged political subjects. it is not said that it intends to stop doing that. >> marty, great to have you on. to put aside one fact, eroding trust as part of a descent into fascism, that's part of the playbook. i'm just saying that. you pointed out that this move by basals and the washington

post is not a way to inspire trust. the editorial was written. they had made a decision. this is unbelievably terrible timing if you are going to give jeff basals the benefit of the doubt, which i personally am not. wouldn't this be the election where you want to know what that editorial said? secondly, can you talk about how riseau's -- jeff baeza statement conflicts with the washington post. it leads me to believe that trump is a getting exactly what he wants because part of his playbook is to put out falsehoods and he rode trust in our core values and in the media. >> in a couple of days they put out statements trying to leave the impression that jeff bezos

was not involved in this decision. so they put out a statement saying that he was not sent , he did not read, and not applying a draft editorial. that was so narrowly written and carefully written. to suggest he was involved, clearly he was involved. they also put out a statement saying this was a washington post decision, which was also another carefully written statement. by the way, he is 100% owner of the washington post. it's using the term, washington post decision, is not very meaningful. it's clear that he was involved in that decision. they should not have put out statements that were misleading in nature and it's very unfortunate that they did that. that does not help inspire confidence and trust. certainly not in the leadership of the post. >> you are one of the leading voices at the washington post. he worked under marty for some time. what is your take on all of this and what is the mood inside that newsroom? >> well, willie, i never actually worked under marty. i worked alongside marty because i am on the opinion

side and marty was on the new side. that's church and state. marty and i are good friends. what a great editor. -- on friday row and posted on our website, a statement, strongly disagreeing with the decision not to endorse and explaining why. a brief statement. to our credit at the washington post, we air all of our fights and dirty laundry in public. it's posted right there. i think something like 20 or 21 post columnists have signed on to the statement. we have individual columns saying this was wrong. and i think what really gets us is, again, the timing.

why should they endorse presidential candidates? that was an argument and discussion to have a year ago, six months ago. the final decision, 11 days before what we have written is one of the most crucial elections in american history. simply, we don't understand that. i have a question for you, marty. you worked with jeff. jeff has owned the paper for a think 11 years now. he has invested tons and tons of money in the post. in many ways he has been a supportive owner and supportive of the role of the press and the role of journalism.

at least from my point of view, one reason we are so in shock is this is a surprise to us. is it a surprise to you? >> i'm not surprised by much these days, unfortunately. it's out of character with what we saw. thanks for clarifying, we have a separation between the news department and the opinion department. in all my experience there he supported us and allowed us to do our work as we saw fit. we did a tremendous investigative reporting on donald trump. he never interfered despite enormous pressure from donald trump personally and against his companies. i'm incredibly grateful for that and i remain incredibly grateful for that. you know, something's changed here and i'm not sure he has

adequately explained that. is a real prospect that donald trump could end up in the white house again. he has threatened to exact vengeance on his political enemies. he has always perceived bezos to be a political enemy entirely because of the coverage of the washington post, which trump detests. he has to be feeling some pressure there. he talked in his note to readers about the post being a complex a fire for him and that's because he has these other commercial interests. i can't say for sure that was a factor in this decision. but had this been a decision, as you said, if this had been made a year ago, two years ago, maybe even six months ago, this would have been perceived quite differently. but why now? why in this way? why after a draft was written?

this doesn't make sense. it does not inspire confidence. it actually erodes it. i do not think people should do. it doesn't just he wrote it, it destroys confidence. >> marty, before he retired as executive editor, and i might add, editorially speaking, you're far too young to retire and far too effective to retire. if you are still the executive editor of the post, which has taken a huge reputational hit over this, what would you say, walking into the newsroom this morning, to the staff the remains? >> yes. notwithstanding, this decision regarding the editorial, we will continue doing our work. that means we will vigorously hold power to account, powerful individuals, powerful institutions. the most powerful individual in the entire world is the president of the united states. people aspire to be president of the united states should

expect strict scrutiny, consistent scrutiny. there will be no interference in our work. >> former executive editor of the washington post, marty baron, thank you very much for being on this morning. mitch mcconnell -- lost his party. author, michael, joins us with his new book, "the price of power." that is next on "morning joe weekend."

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president trump is still -- for everything he did while in office. as an ordinary citizen the statute of limitations is -- still liable for everything he did while he was in office. didn't get away with anything yet. >> that was republican senator mitch mcconnell explaining his decision to acquit donald trump in his second impeachment trial following trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. those remarks from nearly 4 years ago are a stark departure from the tone set at minority leader -- today. he said -- again. joining us now, debbie chief for the associated press, michael tackett. the author of the new book, "the price of power. how mitch mcconnell -- the book is now

out. it is a terrific book. you had extraordinary access, unprecedented access to mcconnell and his family's personal papers in archives and the like. so many americans, we will get to that intimate. tell me about how his experiences with polio shaped his life. >> when he was two years old he contracts polio. he's living with his mother and aunt on the border of alabama and georgia in a little town called five points. his father is fighting world war ii. he has to be treated for polio at warm springs, georgia where fdr was famously treated. but his mother had to do manual exercises with him, 45 minutes at a time. and here's the thing, they told her, don't let him walk.

he's two years old so he could walk. but they told him, to let him walk because that will hurt his recovery. so he has two years of almost total isolation. and then he turns out, like a lot of polio survivors, to have some interesting character traits. one of them being hypercompetitive in a chronic -- >> and overachiever in many ways. when he arrived in washington he grew so powerful, so adept at wielding power. walk us through some of that evolution and how he enforced his vision, his rule on his party once he became leader. >> first saw, he was not an overnight success. senate in 1965 with a lot of famous names, l bradley, ted kennedy, patrick moynihan. but he does a slow, steady climb. he sees every little step he has to take to get power. finally, he does get it. he uses it, one, to stop things

from happening when they are the minority, and two, to make things happen when he's the majority. >> michael, in the book you featured some rather revealing quotes from mcconnell about for president trump among them, mcconnell says trump is, quote, not very smart. a despicable human being. nasty, sleaze ball, beyond the erratic and has every characteristic you would not want a president to have. take us a little more behind the scenes of their of their relationship and how, if mcconnell feels all of that about trump, why did he end up supporting them all on and said he will again? >> mcconnell was wary of trump from day one. but he also knew that he had to work with him. donald trump had just been elected president. he was senate majority leader. he had one choice. either you work with the president or you don't. and if you don't you lose your job. so he keeps his job. he and paul ryan worked very hard to keep trump happy. so they came up with a tax bill and called it, the trump tax cut, so that trump would

support it. they stayed with him as long as they could. in their minds, they were manipulating him. to debate i'm sure president trump would see it differently. but they looked at it as, we are going to get what we can from him. as time went on, of course, the relationship is very strained. but mcconnell, all this while, was recording these comments and private oral histories that he did. he gave me access to those in a book so you are able to see, in real time, what he was really thinking in contrast to his public statements. >> obviously, so many viewers watching the show will remember him. now mcconnell almost feels like a throwback republican figure, where many watching but agree with him, at least in his support of ukraine. he does espouse traditional republican values that are out of step with trump. as we look at our republican party a week from election how does mitch mcconnell and people i can fit in now with donald trump's gop? >> it really depends.

you are absolutely right about ukraine. that's a moment where mcconnell really put capital at risk. the other is an immigration bill that in pass. he put that bill together, he talked to president biden and convinced him to go along. he tried to help lead the charge on the republican side. everything was set for an immigration deal and then trump called senators and scotch to pick >> because he wanted for an issue in this campaign. the new book, the price of power. how mitch mcconnell master the senate, changed america, and lost his party. it's on sale now. author and deputy washington bureau chief for the associated press, michael, congratulations again. thank you for being here this morning. coming up, he played hamlet, macbeth and now king lear. and oscar-winner joins us for his latest production when morning joe weekend comes back. you love because of asthma?

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comehither, leonardo. what was it that you told me today? that your knees, be at-risk, was in love with benedict? >> i did never think that lady would have loved any man. >> nor i either. but she should note on benedict. -- seemed ever to abhor. >> is it possible? >> maybe counterfeit? >> faith. >> counterfeit? >> if she should makes tender of her love, 'tis very possible he will scorn it. for the man, as you know all, have the contemptible spirit.

>> that was a clip from the 1993 classic, "much to do about nothing." film stars, the familiar kenneth, who adapted the william shakespeare play for the big screen. that's hard. again working with shakespearean material for his new, off-broadway play, "king lear." and the award-winning actor and director joins us now. thank you. it's kind of a busy time. thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> i've read that the first time that you read "king lear" was 45 years ago. what's it like to bring it to the stage now? >> when i first saw it -- >> performing. >> i can certainly quote it for you. when king lear says, in distress, and insight that he has gained through practically lost everything. he says, when we are born we cry

that we are come to this great stage of fools. now, the whole idea of human beings capable of foolishness and being foolhardy throughout their lives, in a play that, from the beginning, in an ordinary family situation produces support misjudgments in family dynamics, and from the chaos comes, that i recognized and still trying to work out. >> i'm recognizing it today. >> do you think that is one of the reasons why this has lasted so long? that people see the kind of conflict and kind of way to resolve matters, like you said, do you think that a lawyer is what has made this survive as a story so long? >> i think you're right. i think the human recognition, renounces things.

-- gave we titles, money, copyrights and things later in life. he talked about his art and he said, well, if through art you can show mankind themselves, and let them see themselves, then maybe they can change. that's what we found was shakespeare. you have that opportunity to stay with it. to recognize. in this case, a family dynamic where a king decides to give up , basically only wants to work three days a week. >> do remote pick >> exactly. i will finish on thursday afternoon, i will come in late tuesday morning. but i would still like the job title, please. and i will divide it between three people equally, divide and conquer. it doesn't work. those three people are his daughters. they are much younger and they have different points of view. >> there you go. joe has a question for you, kenneth. >> what's so fascinating, we are so obsessed on change.

we went from the agrarian age, to the industrial age, to the information age, to the tech age. everything changes so much. but isn't it extraordinary? shakespeare remains relevant. unfortunately, we as human beings don't change. do we? >> he seems to indicate, 400 years ago, when there's a power vacuum and someone decides that i can control is handover of power, that i can do on my terms , when he discovers quite quickly as once he signed the documents, once he's no longer in the job, the people who agreed to anything he said before that moment when he signed now have a different point of view. and his understanding of what he's capable of, his understanding of his mental cognition, et cetera, is different from their view of it. and the ones who have the keys to the castle are the ones who are going to win in that equation. >> you've been doing shakespeare

on stage, and film, for basically her whole career. and it's timeless, as you pointed out. do you see a difference from when you first started doing this to now, in terms of how audiences really to shakespeare? -- it's so deeply human that nothing really changes in terms of the times we are living in relative to the stuff. >> it's interesting. what he said. there's always been a fear factor with shakespeare. people fear anciently which, a distant language, they fear it might do something between them and the experience. but there is something with "king lear" where they say, the weight of the said time we must obey, speak what we feel not what we ought to say. and what i have noticed across my time of doing shakespeare is people's capacity to feel along with shakespeare. we have been playing now in new york for a couple of previews.

the audiences here are so shocked, so intelligent, and so ready to feel. our production place for two hours without an intermission. the catastrophe that happens from simple misjudgments in human situations from the beginning of the play unleashes and unravels a whole series of decisions made in the heat of the moment, which are very much to do with people feeling, not necessarily reflecting, not necessarily taking time for a pause. in my experience, audiences are ready to experience, and prefer to experience rather than just sort of listen to a lecture. >> we get the original. >> there's that. as a person who participated in the williamstown festival, i'm aware of your career in shakespeare and i said, kenneth is on the show tomorrow. in a young person nearby said to me, oh, he's in, what is it?

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good morning and welcome back to "morning joe: weekend." we have three days away from electing the next president of the united states. the stakes are quite simply as high as they could ever get. here is what we have been talking about this week. let's put her in there with a rifle standing there with a 9 barrel suiting, let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained in her face. there are all dogs when they are sitting in the washington building saying, let's send 10,000 troops into the mouth of the enemy, but she is a stupid person. >> joining the conversation, we have nbc news national affairs analyst and call you must, and chief political economist, and contributing writer for "the atlantic,," and it warmer speechwriter for george w. bush. pete, good to have you both on the show this morning. so, those comments don't age well. they get more chilling as

i see them. again, we are looking at a pattern now of language being used by the former president that fits the definition of fastest fascist. this is taking it to a whole new level. >> a couple of weeks ago, you talked about using the national guard and the military on liz cheney, not on liz cheney, or nancy pelosi and on adam schiff. using the military on constitutional, of course, but using the military to arrest his political opponents, who he calls the enemy within, because they are his political opponents. now, let's look at the headline from "drudge." now, he is talking about republicans, and this is quite specific. this is something that anti-trump apologists can't brush away. he literally is saying that liz

cheney should have nine rifles trained on her face, and should be shooting at her. this is his closing weekend. this is the closing argument of his campaign after spending the last couple of weeks talking about using the military to arrest his political opponents, and talking about shutting down cbs news, because he did not like the way they edited a package. >> you know, joe, one of the things we talk sometimes about trump's age, and the mental acuity that has declined so dramatically. there is one other aspect of what happens to a lot of people as they get older, which is that, their true nature comes out more. you meet a lot of people in their 80s, they are, whatever they are, they get boiled down

to their essence in some sense and you are seeing this here under all of the pressure of this campaign and the stakes for donald trump, the personal stakes, some who reminded us, not that we needed reminding, but it is always good to keep in mind the stakes for donald trump losing this race are likely imprisonment we know that donald trump, one of the things he is most afraid of, most nakedly afraid of his entire life has been the prospect of spending time behind bars. i think when you see some of the evidence that is piling up, and you cited some of them this morning, the fact that the early vote data, which can be misleading, over interpreted, but does not argue particularly well for the campaign, the gender gap across the campaign of the united states, in terms of who is voting early, whether that is in-person, or by mail, is just so overwhelmingly female . the gap, the gender gap in terms of who is voting will therefore translate-- if

anything about the data that is right about this election translates to advantages for democrats, i think panic is setting in. the essence of trump is coming out. you focus again on what it literally says here, in some ways, i want to focus figuratively on what he was saying yesterday about liz cheney. you often quote me with saying, everything about trump is projection. this is the projection of a violent, dark fantasy. he is imagining, and in some sense, kind of getting off on the image, the idea of liz cheney being put in front of a bunch of weapons and having them shot at her. i think that is perfectly in keeping with someone who is. the essence of who he is is coming out the violent essence of what he has always represented is coming out in the moment where the crunch is on in the final days and he is starting to realize what might lie ahead for him if things go the wrong way tuesday. >> in keeping with the fascist

playbook, first you get a hold of people's attention, lord knows, donald trump get set up everybody's attention. he came down the escalator, everybody was taking a look and we started to see people fall into the cold. you shock people. you shock them with the worst behavior, the worst language ever possible until it is normalized. jonathan let me hear, it is to me wishful thinking, a dream, maybe, that someone like mitch mcconnell, or the speaker of the house, or john thune, somebody who has stayed within the lines of what donald trump considers good behavior, steps out and looks at the camera and says, no, no. >> i think this is why liz cheney is sort of a case of one. she is the one that has shown the bravery to not just announce trump, and we know she was a part of the january 6

investigation, but to go all the way and say, i am not only going to vote for donald trump, i'm going to vote for vice president harris, and other republicans. mitt romney, for instance a consistent critic of donald trump. the same time, he is not voting for kamala harris. he has said that. i think we have been very clear, speaker, mitch mcconnell, the vast majority of officials in the republican party will not say anything at all. >> mitch mcconnell came out and said, he did not like the idea of mike harris referring to him as a fascist. they have gone the obvious opposite direction. >> may have doubled down on trump support. i am sure it will be the same thing here with this rhetoric. peter, i know you have been writing about the concern of movement here this upcoming election and how, in many ways, donald trump, more dangerous to american than kamala harris. >> that is right. his instincts are more

fascistic than conservative. if you go down policies with the economist went through a lot of them, he is not conservative he is populist in his views. mostly in his sensibility to his position, his call for civic violence, termination of the constitution, the lawlessness, the nihilism, that whole package is contrary to conservativism. whether it is burke, abe lincoln, or reagan. he is not a conservative figure . he is an enemy of conservatism . he does not want to conserve anything. he wants to burn things down. one of the things, jonathan, i want to add to this, exactly right. this is the essence of trump. this has always been the essence of trump. the important store, or at least an incredibly important part of the story is, that this appeals to his base. he is pretty finely attuned to what they want to hear. the fact that he is closing

this campaign, pitching his closing argument, having to do with killing people, and it is more and more deranged, just illustrates a cult of personality the republican party has become. it is almost impossible to think, if you had said in 2016, you had listed 10 things that donald trump is saying now, or has done now, and said to people at that time , would you support him under that case? first, they would have accused you of trump arrangement syndrome, they never would have done those things. if he would have done, of course we would break with him, what has happened, his bond is stronger than it has ever been. this is a frightening story of what can happen to a generally good and decent nation when a democrat gets in control and appeals to the darkest instincts, in this case, a political party, the republican party. "morning joe: weekend" will be right back. back. the thrill seeker.

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robert f. kennedy junior we had. and he's going to work on health, and women's health, and all of the different reasons, because we are not really a wealthy, a healthy country. he really wants to come up with the pesticides, and all the different things, i said, he can do whatever he wants. he wants to look at the vaccines, everything, i think it is great. i think it is great. the only thing i say to bobby is, leave the liquid gold under our feet along. we don't-- want to have a little gasoline. >> donald trump suggesting robert f. kennedy junior could become one of the country's leading authorities on both women and childhood healthcare if the former president wins reelection, and adding for some reason something about oil,

which is at record highs in terms of production. robert f kennedy junior has repeatedly linked vaccinations to autism, even though years of research across several countries have debunked that claim. he also at one time called for a federal abortion ban, and tried to walk that back over the last year. suffice it to say, has been all over the place on abortion as well. let's bring in senior advisor to the harris/wald campaign. welcome, ian. your campaign is in wisconsin, tomorrow you will be in georgia, north carolina sunday, in michigan. monday in pennsylvania. no one will be able to accuse you, whatever happens on tuesday, of not having covered and spent time in the battleground states. i am curious for our viewers who are ages at this moment, and rightly so, because this race is so close, how you all are feeling about the race this morning? >> thanks for having me. we are

encouraged about what we are seeing. we are seeing in record numbers in the early vote. we are seeing the campaign starting to worry about some of their coalition not turning out in the early vote, and we are seeing late breakers coming our way, undecided voters makes are making up their minds, swinging toward vice president harris. you guys have been talking about it on here and showing it, i think we can see why. donald trump is talking about putting one of the most extreme figures in politics in charge of women's health. undecided, swing voters are repulsed by that peer donald trump is talking about unleashing guns on liz cheney, a republican who is supporting vice president harris. i don't think undecided voters are turned on by that as well. we are seeing increasingly as we close this campaign, undecided voters who are making up their minds coming to the vice president. we are seeing strong enthusiasm among democrats, who just yesterday gallup is out with a new survey showing 10 points enthusiasm gap between the democrats and republicans. we

feel really good about where we are. obviously, it will be a really close race. we are in an unprecedented situation, all states are within the margin of error this could come down to 10,000 votes in numerous states. we are prepared for that. we think we are on a path to victory and we are looking forward to winning. >> ian, it seems like the trump campaign is locking arms with box news and others and putting blinders on. joe biden says something about garbage, and ms. speaks a little bit, they don't remember or avoid the fact that donald trump says, this country is a garbage can, among other things that have evoked the word, garbage. and again, mark cuban said something about women. it is all people who bid to trump's will and seemed to put themselves in a category, with the help of rupert murdoch. i actually thought it said, "say it to their fascist," but

it says, say into their faces. there's a lot of support here, teaming up to make sure misinformation gets out there, or avoidance of real tories gets out there as well. at the same time, this appears to be a part of donald trump's closing argument. take a look. >> she is a radical warthog. let's put her with a rifle standing with nine barrels shooting at her. let's see how she feels about it when the guns are trained to her face. they are all warthogs when they are sitting in washington saying, she will, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy. but she is a stupid person. >> he is talking about liz cheney. she did release a statement, but i'd also like to hear what the campaign has to say about this. what does this kind of language portend? >> you the vice president talk exactly on things like this

tuesday night in her closing argument. donald trump is all too consumed by his grievances. the people who he disagrees with and who he sees as opposing him politically, he treats as enemies. he spent the last month, talking about the enemy from within the united states, and now he is going after liz cheney with this dangerous, violent rhetoric. about the contrast between these two candidates. donald trump, talking about sending a prominent republican to the firing squad and vice president harris talking about sending me to her cabinet. this is the difference in this race. you have one candidate extending an arm saying, we may not agree on everything, that is okay. i may make mistakes, you may not like me on every issue, that is okay, but we have to turn the page on this division, and his anger, and frankly, the instability we see from donald trump. if we ever want to move forward as a country, if we ever want to get anything done that actually matters for your life,

he is going to sit in the oval office stewing over his enemies list of people who he perceives as his political opponents, as his enemies, and she's going to sit in the oval office and actually focus on a to-do list of priorities for american people, lowering costs, protecting reproductive freedom. these are things she has talked about over and over again in her campaign. we have new polls out overnight in the battleground states showing donald trump's lead on the economy has been erased because people are hearing from her about her actual plans to bring down costs, while all donald trump does is attack his enemies, attack his opponents, talk about his own problems. we think that is actually resonating with voters. we think that is contributing to the fact that undecided swing voters at the end of this race are breaking her weight. they are seeing, regardless of the misinformation and disinformation being turned out on the right, independent voters, even some republican voters who aren't very comfortable with donald trump, they are seeing this rhetoric. they are seeing what happened at

madison square garden and it is turning them off, bringing them closer and closer to supporting vice president harris, if not already casting their vote for vice president harris. next, we speak with congressman ruben gallego, running against republican kari lake for the u.s. senate seat in arizona. the latest from his battleground straightahead on "morning joe: weekend." end."

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kari lake was on cnn and refused to say whether she lost the state's 2022 gubernatorial race. take a look. >> did you lose the 2022 election for governor? >> why are we looking backward, i am looking forward? >> because you never conceded that race. >> i am looking forward to what is coming up. >> you will not say whether or not you lost the 2022 race, is

that clear? >> you have seen thousands of interviews from. >> you've actually never answered the question directly on whether or not you lost the 2022 election. >> i am still in litigation, so i don't want to speak to that. >> her opponent, credit opponent congressman ruben gallego, spent the weekend campaigning in counties that traditionally lean republican. congressman gallego joins us now, marine corps, grant combat veteran, and a member of the house arms services committee. thank you for coming on the show. how does the race look? what are the issues you are running on that you think are breaking through? >> arizona is a tight state, there are 300,000 more registered republicans and democrats. we have to make sure we are talking to everyone, democrats, independents, that is why we did that barnstorming . that is also why i visited 20 of the 22 federally recognized

tribes. what are we talking about? we are talking about the choice of where arizona gets to. do you want to have abortion rights going to the future so women can control their bodies? you need to vote for me, not for someone that is for an abortion ban. you want to deal with the election to nihilism? it is not just funny, but it is actually very serious. people have gotten death threats, i have a neighbor that works for the county recorder he ended up having to hire personal security. we have people no longer running for office, republicans, because they have so much trauma pushed on by people like kari lake that people don't want to run for office anymore. this is the kind of thing you can either choose someone who upholds the constitution of the united states, someone who will be there to really truly validate these elections, like myself, or other election deniers like kari lake. in general, the future of arizona, we need to continue to work to make sure we have a secure future, secure borders, and in a bipartisan way.

someone like kari lake, all she wants to do is divide. she will do anything and say anything just to win, like we just thought now. >> congressman, i know a lot of people in your state and i am hearing a lot of enthusiasm about voting. one of the questions that has been raised, i was in arizona today, i will be there over the weekend on the get out the vote rally. i keep hearing the question of immigration, and how arizona can be one of the leaders in how to get this right in a partisan way. talk about how you have tried to be more unifying than those on the left, or the right, around this critical issue that directly impacts your state. >> i think the difference between me and kari lake, i have approached this from an arizona perspective, not a democratic perspective or a republican perspective. working with our community leaders, our border mayors, but

i have been endorsed by more order mayors that kari lake has. we are being supported by the largest police union in the state, because they know i will work in a bipartisan manner, not just play politics with the border. remember, there was a security compromised bill by the most conservative republicans and democrats together. and she rejected it. why? not because there was a better bill coming, because she needed to continue to do this, to the point where we had one mayor who started the campaign with her and is now endorsing a. they understand that i am here to actually get the work done. she is to mar-a-lago more than she has to the border. arizona, arizona voters understand that and they want someone that will take people seriously and not just use it as a political football like kari lake has. >> congressman, good morning. there are some issues that could be decisive in this race, immigration, you just mentioned abortion rights, of course. the polls suggest that for most voters top of mind remains the

economy. what do you say when you encounter a boater there that has such fond memories of the trump economy, who says that things were better than me and the facts may not support that, but that is the feeling that boater has me what is your argument? >> i think the worst thing we can do is deny people what they are feeling. i think it is very-- when politicians do that, they are very out of touch. i remind people-- first of all, i understand what they are going through. i grew up in a household largely supported by my mom, was a secretary, and myself, i went to work after school to make sure i could help out my family. my first bed in about seven years with my college dorm room bed, i slept on the floor of my apartment to help out my family. making sure people understand that i get what it feels like trying to put 40 hours a week together to try and make a living, figuring out how much you can drive by what is in your wallet. talk about what we have done,

continuing to make lives better. for example, the fact that we are the people that have really gone after pharma, insulin capped at $35. arizona now has the lowest unemployment in the history of the state. we still have more to do. we have to bring down the cost of housing to make sure we can match that. there is a good story here to make sure people understand that inflation is hard, but we are working at it, because we are the people willing to fight for you, as well as fight the corporations. very happy in the direction the campaign is going. obviously, you want to learn more about the campaign, we are happy to take in support for gallego .com. the story of a woman in georgia who says, doctors delayed the lifesaving healthcare she desperately needed for a violent miscarriage , because they were worried about the state's abortion ban. avery davis bell is my guest next on "morning joe: weekend." d."

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34-year-old mother avery davis bell is speaking out this morning about what she says, was a dangerous delay in care by doctors in georgia, which she had a miscarriage last month. bell was losing massive amounts of blood and her baby was not going to survive. she says,

doctors were nervous about beginning the procedures to abort, and it could have cost her her life. bill shared her story with ""usa today"," which reported, bell said, doctors grappled with when they could start the process of the procedure. it would take time for her cervix to dilate, but it was unclear to the medical team if beginning that dilation would be considered advancing an abortion before the necessary time was up. in a statement to usa today listen carefully, emory healthcare center, emory healthcare uses consensus from clinical experts, medical literature, and legal guidance to support our providers as they make individualized treatment recommendations in compliance with georgia's abortion laws. well, the state of georgia is

one of the strictest, has the strictest bands, of course, due to donald trump, after six weeks there are exceptions to save the life of the mother in cases of rape or incest, and for medically futile pregnancies. amidst all of that, avery davis bell was caught in the middle. she joins us now. avery, thank you so much for coming on the show this morning at this really important time. i know this just happened to you last month. i am so sorry. i am wondering if you could explain why you are speaking out about your harrowing reproductive emergency, and what was it that you went to the emergency room for help for? >> yes. so, two weeks ago, i was 18 weeks pregnant with my very wanted second baby. and i had a complication and had been in and out of the hospital.

that night, i started bleeding incredibly heavy, again, which i knew was a return to the hospital. i went back. at that time, we found, not only was i bleeding heavily, but my water had prematurely broken much too early. the doctors were very clear that my fetus could not survive this, and that i was in potential danger of losing a lot of blood. at this point, this was a miscarriage. my doctors were fantastic. they assured me they were going to save my life. they also made it clear that they have to make sure to operate within the law, within georgia's abortion ban, though there might be a waiting period, and they cannot move up my operation until it was clear that my life was in danger. this was because of the law that was put into place in the state because of donald trump's supreme court. what this means is, my doctors had to balance what was best

for me in the moment with when it's classified as being legal. this is a place no doctor should have to be put in, and this is a situation i don't want any other person to ever have to go through. that is why i am speaking out and honestly speaking out when it is so soon, and obviously so hard. i am of course emotionally still recovering. i went into the hospital the same day i early voted, the only time i left at rest between hospitalizations. i wanted to speak out now because we are in the middle of a decision point where we can go in one direction with kamala harris, and have our rights were stored and protected, and elevated, where we could go in another direction and bans like this could become more common across the country and more women, people, and mothers of children will be living as if we were 200 years ago, when many of us would have survived childbirth, and many of us would have died. that is why i am trying to

share my story, even though it is not how i would rather be spending my time. >> you are two weeks out from this unbelievably traumatic, and painful experience, and an experience that probably you are still recovering from. i want to zoom in on something you said, they had to wait until it was clear, your life was in danger. how much were you bleeding, avery? i believe, also if i read correctly, you set your water broke, but amniotic fluid was also leaking as well along with massive amounts of blood. can you describe the situation, and this is the situation i need you to describe, please describe the situation that they were looking at, fabulous doctors, having to determine whether you were sick enough, dying enough, bleeding enough? describe the amount-- >> yeah, so i will. what i want to say is, legal laws, there

are rules, they are categorical. they have to be. biology is not categorical. i am a scientist, i know this. now, i know this from my legacy. i went to the hospital when i passed him sorry this is graphic, a dinner size clot of blood at home. a massive amount of blood and i was still bleeding, and then they found there was amniotic fluid mixed in. so everyone knows, when your water breaks, first of all your fetus cannot survive, and second of all you are at very high risk of infection and people end up in the icu for infections. i am bleeding heavily, my water is working, doctors are very clear, this will progress to be life-threatening, and i will need surgery where they can control the bleeding and make sure everything is out of my uterus. when exactly i am dying, that is not as easy a call to make and they should not have to make it, because we knew i would get there, so they should have been able to move as soon as they could, but they have to

be able to pay attention to these laws, because they have to be able to save the woman who comes in the next day and not get shut down. i had to wait overnight, bleeding, soaking pads, getting my labs checked, because one of the things the doctors could say is that my hemoglobin dropped very low, that is a very clear metric they could have in my charts and move on with the surgery. that is in fact what happened. my hemoglobin dropped to the point where i was automatically eligible for a blood transfusion and at that point they said, okay, nobody would argue this is a really serious situation, we can move forward with your prep for surgery. i had my surgery about a day after i entered the hospital, when it could have been one or two of the scenarios we were talking about, up to a half, or two days, depending on how long it took to prepare my cervix to be able to pass my fetus. again, this was 18 weeks. a loss is sad at any point, but

at this point, in two weeks, it would have been a stillbirth. i was pretty heavily pregnant, and this is a pretty traumatic thing for anybody to have to go through. my doctors should not have been put in this position, and my worst day should not have been made worse. who knows, if i were in idaho or texas, somewhere with even worse laws than georgia, i very well could have died waiting on this care. you are watching "morning joe: weekend." we will be right back. bac

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a group of more than 400 historians is endorsing vice president kamala harris this morning. historians for harris writes in a statement quote, since 1789, the nation is prospered under the constitution dedicated to securing a general welfare, under national government bound by the rule of law, in which no one interest or person holds absolute power. in 1860, and elite interest dedicated to human slavery attempted to shatter the union,

rather than a seat to the constitutional rule of law by accepting the outcome of the election, plunging the nation into civil war. we believe based on our study of the past, the nation stands at an unprecedented historical, as well as political istorical, crossroads. on the outcome of this election, no less than the election of 1860 hangs the fate of both spirit and the letter of the constitution. we appeal to our fellow citizens to me whether conservative, independent, or liberal, or regardless of party affiliation to vote for kamala harris and tim walz. joining us now, professor of history at princeton university, sean willis. still with us, john mitchell, all three, historians for harris. john, i will let you kick us off here, making the nonpartisan case, a constitutional case for vice president harris. why do you think the states are so high? >> it is super partisan. i'm not a democrat i voted for presidents of both parties. to

me, this is a clear application of reason and justice that one candidate represents a journey toward a more perfect union, under the rule of law, and the other, if you take him at his word, if you listen to what he said, and see what happened after that 2020 election, that candidate is not devoted to the america that can in fact become that more perfect. >> professor, for you, why are the stakes so high here? >> the key, the constitution, that is what makes it above partisanship. every election we have had so far, in my lifetime, both parties have respected the basic constitutional rule of law. that has been not been the case, certainly now. the constitution is deeply important. we've had moments in american history where crises have happened, the largest thing

1860, were a group of people dedicated to slavery decided, rather than to accept the outcome of a presidential election, that they were going to dissolve the union. this is not unlike that. we are at that kind of moment right now. we have one candidate, who has already tried to overthrow the outcome of a constitutional dictated election, has already tried to do that, and has more or less said, he will try to do it again. that's right away should alarm you. apart from that, the contempt that he and his supporters show for the constitution, and for the rule of law has been throughout his presidency, and in his post presidency. i think, as john said to me a pretty clear choice what we have here between some group of people who would rather dissolve the constitution, he has said so, he would happily advocate it if you wanted to do so for the sake of his own power and those of his friends,

that can't happen. >> it is no mistake, he expresses admiration for vladimir putin, kim, kim jong- un, eastern europe as well. as your colleague points out, we don't have to wonder about these. this is not some theoretical exercise in 2016. he's just saying these things, you will not do them. we have parsed him to them. we have watched them try to overcome overturned the outcome of the last election and got even further the last couple of years saying exactly what he wants to do if he gets power. >> absolutely. the analogy of 1860 is important for me. the background conditions for trying to struggle to make the country live up to its promise is being challenged. what are the conditions under which i can struggle, that we can struggle to make america live up to this ideal for me to make it a genuinely, multiracial, multicultural democracy? donald trump wants to undermine the background conditions for the argument to be made. it is on that basis, right, it is on that basis that i joined

with all of these historians to make the argument, we have to vote. no matter if you are progressive, conservative, democratic, no, you believe in the background conditions for us to have the struggle, to have the argument, you have got to vote for kamala harris and tim walz. next, a new film by director robertson atticus reunites tom hanks and robert wright for the first time since "forest gump." that is ahead on "morning joe: weekend." weekend." disease... ...and my ulcerative colitis symptoms... ...kept me... ...out of the picture. now... ...there's skyrizi. ♪i've got places to go...♪ ♪...and i'm feeling free♪ ♪control of my symptoms means everything...♪ ♪...to me♪ ♪control is everything to me♪ and now... ...i'm back in the picture. feel significant symptom relief at... ...4 weeks with skyrizi. skyrizi is proven to help deliver remission... ...and help visibly improve damage.... ...of the intestinal lining at 12 weeks and 1 year. don't use if allergic.

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time sure does fly, doesn't it? >> it sure does. >> right here is where we want to be. >> you know, if you'd like, you

could spend the rest of the night here. >> i could spend the rest of my life here. >> buy. that was the new trailer for the new robert zemeckis movie, "here." the film takes a look at life from one single vantage point over the course of generations and centuries. joining us now, the film's lead actors, robert wright, and its director, robert zemeckis. robert and then robin , take me here, tell us about it. >> here is a story based on a graphic novel by richard mcguire. the premise of the movie is that the audience, the viewer watches centuries and generations passed from one fixed place in the world. at

the core of the story is the one between tom hanks and robin , but what we see passing through our view is time and life, and things that happen as life goes on. >> robin? >> i love listening to you. we all have a great synopsis. it is that, but every life experience we could ever have in a family is what takes place in front of you. you are watching the evolution, not only of the world, coming to and from, so it is not chronologically. you will be in 1962, and tom and i are 18 years old, with the help of visual effects, and then boom, you have this cool, robert zemeckis transition shot of lightning bolts and you are suddenly with the dinosaurs. it is everything happening in

that location, in that time, that is what you see as a viewer. >> we were talking before we came on. this beautifully captures all the celebration, the heartbreak , the joy, the pain that comes through that room through any family, through any light. what was it about the graphic novel where you saw a movie, where others may not have seen a film in one fixed place? >> i don't know why i saw a movie, i think the reason was, the graphic novel to me was instantly cinematic. and i think because the graphic novel plays with this idea of different time, that is something that movies do better than any other art form, is to present transitions in time, because movies themselves are time manipulation. >> robin, i suspect the minute you hurt robert was doing a film, you said, yes. such a brilliant filmmaker, adding to the mix tom hanks, a gorgeous "forest gump" reunion with the

two of you. what exactly have you excited about this project? >> it is definitely an original. this format has never been done before. i'd do anything bob asked me to do. when he said, tom, i was like, let's get the band back together. it was like no time had passed. >> it felt familiar, that set. >> that is so nice. that is nice to have that sort of relationship. we have been working together for 18 years. it is just continuous. any who. that is it for us this saturday morning. we are back tomorrow morning, 6:00 a.m. eastern, two days out for what could be one of the most important elections of our lifetimes. we will see you then. then. good morning, it is saturday, november 2nd.