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>> god, i loved him. >> i'm sorry, jack. >> jack and tana set up a charity to help other victims of violent crime. it's called marc's place. >> we're going to try to move forward with something positive that we think marc would be very proud of. >> and on a fall sunset they gathered family and friends together to remember their son and finally say goodbye. >> i tell people all the time hug the ones you love, let them know. you never know the next moment they may be gone. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm krig melvin thank you for watching. ♪♪
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may have missed. starting off with vice president kamala harris who held rallies in three different battleground states yesterday, speaking before crowds in north carolina, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. in madison, harris kicked off her event with performances with musicians like mumford and sons. she promoted unity and working together and gave an example when interrupted by a protester. >> as your president, i pledge to seek common ground and common sense solutions to the challenges you face. [ cheers ] >> i am not looking to score
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political points. i am looking to make progress. [ cheers ] and i pledge to you, i will listen to experts and to those impacted and to the people who disagree with me. and importantly, and, raleigh -- and importantl y, and, raleig -- it's all right. we are -- hey, everybody. okay, see, this is the thing. we know we are actually
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fighting for a democracy. [ cheers ] and unlike donald trump, i don't believe people who disagree with me are the enemy. he wants to put them in jail. i'll give them a seat at the table. we have an opportunity in this election to turn the page on a decade of donald trump who has been trying to keep us divided and afraid of each other. we know that is who he is, but north carolina, that is not who we are. and it is time for a new chapter, where we stop with the pointing fingers at each other, and instead, let us lock arms with one another, knowing we have so much more in common
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than what is separating us. >> oh, wow. i will tell you what, that is the message that america wants to hear right now. you have kamala harris having somebody shout at a rally, a protester, and think of all of the times that donald trump when that has happened to him says knock him out, send them out on a stretcher. beat them up, and i will pay for your defense attorney bills, doing all of these things. kamala harris just said i don't consider them my enemy. i'm not going to put them on the enemy list. i'm going to put them around the table. we are going to work with people with whom we disagree. i'm telling you, for all that has torn the country apart over the last 20 years this is actually the antedote. a president says i'm coming to
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the center. i'm going to forge consensus. i'm going to work to compromise with those who disagree with me. those who disagree with me are not my enemy. >> right. >> they are my fellow american, and their voice needs to be heard, too. mike, i'm not sure when such a fundamentally decent message to all americans, i'm not sure when that became radical, but i will tell you contrasted to donald trump's language, it's pretty dramatic, and it's exactly, i think, what most americans want right now, compromise, consensus, and a leader who believes we are all in this together. >> you have just outlined one of the greatest mystery of the election, not just to me, but to a lot of people. how is it we are confronted with the choice between a woman, kamala harris, who is
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speaking common sense to the american public right now, talking about bringing people together, talking about bringing this country together, that seems to be so divided, running against someone whose language and behavior would be abhorrent to any parent if they thought about his impact on their children? maybe we are not thinking enough about the country and the children of the country, our children, our grandchildren, and who do we want leading us? do we want a good example leading us? not just in the country, but to the world? or do we want the language and the behavior that we have seen evidenced by donald j. trump for decades again. trusting him with the presidency of the united states? i don't know the answer. i don't know why more people don't see this when they think
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about him. >> there's fear, a grievance, folks are losing their country. divide with rural and urban, south and north, south and northwest, and you know, the west coast, and it's all of those divisions that in some ways are historic, mike, but i'm not -- i honestly am baffled. i guess it heightens my sense of anxiety and the anxiety in the country because i think a lot of people in the country don't understand how we got here and why we are still here, seems to me. >> mika, we played off the top of the show after donald trump and people on another network feigned shock at a stray comment that joe biden made, and then took back, and then kamala harris distanced herself from. he said that in a speech, how could anybody be president and divide america, and then we played what he said yesterday,
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and i just want our viewers to contrast what kamala harris said about a protester, talking about consensus, compromise, locking arms together, as one nation, out of many, one. that's her closing message. i thank god for that closing message. we as a nation need to come together. what did donald trump say yesterday? the people running against him were corrupt, horrible people. that joe biden was the worst president ever. that kamala harris was low i.q., stupid, interesting because he debated her in a debate? he contributed to her in 2014.
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she humiliated him during the debate. said barack obama was a disaster. called democrats communists. he said mark millie, one of the most highly decorated soldiers of our generation, was quote, not a real general because he didn't support donald trump's overthrowing of the constitution. he called a democratic senator pocahontas. he said the democrats were grossly incompetent. and the cherry on top, he pointed to members of the press, doing their job, reporting on what he says in a hostile environment, and called them scum. that is the difference. that is the voice. it's not really a difficult voice to make, even though there's people doing back flips and trying to justify that.
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if you believe in madisonian democracy, believe in checks and balances, and supporting the leaders of nato is more important than supporting the communist leader of north korea, china, and the former of russia. i thank god that kamala harris is talking about bringing us together and uniting us as a country. >> we will have much more of morning joe: weekend after the break. joe: weekend a fter the break.
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trump, carnage speeches, garbage can speeches, retribution, and darkness. it's also true, chris, to her life experience. to her entire professional career and her dreams, that she respects people she disagrees with. she tells the story often of when she was serving as an attorney or prosecutor protecting the innocent or people who had been victims of crimes, that she would never ask somebody that she represents are you a democrat or are you a republican? the question would be, are you okay? and she takes pride in the very simple statement that she would say entering a courtroom or speaking to a judge. kamala harris for the people. i would add to that, and she is making very clear in her message, all of the people. chris? >> you know, you're really
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talking about her professionalism. i think one of the great things in this campaign came two nights ago at the ellipse. they had the big crowd, great advance operation, and tremendous turnout of people, and look at the speech she gave. go back and read the speech. a professional statement of, if you want to know what kind of president i'm going to be, listen to me now. i always say to people when you're an intern on capitol hill, wear a coat and tie, and look like you should get paid. act like a congressman, and criticize federal agencies for not doing their job in your district. if you're going to be president, act like the president. ronald reagan knew how to do it when he said to jimmy carter there you go again, mr. president. i thought she really did act like a president when she spoke in the expansive way about america, and what people who want to seek opportunity in the country can reach it. all people in the country can
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get where they want to go. it was a big expansive statement about america and her own love of it. it established her as the kind of president we can look at and say, you know, she looks like a president. she is talking like one. she is big. i think that was a wonderful way to end the campaign. she did it again in these comments we have been playing today, repeated basically from the speech. the ellipse speech was a presidential speech compared to trump, and as everything you have been saying all morning, he's not been acting like a president, not at all like any president we have ever known, and she is. i think it's powerful to admit, you're doing your job, kamala harris. you are acting like the person you want to be as our leader. >> here is that piece, mentioned from the editorial board of los angeles sun. it's titled donald trump's cognitive decline, becoming a troubling concern, and it reads in part this way.
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as donald trump continues his bid for a second term in the white house, there's an unsettled and undeniable shift that is leading many experts, observers, and even some trump supporters to conclude that the former president's mental aquestionty and harpness are in decline, and his physical stamina is waning, and his frustration and anger are boiling over. americans from both sides of the political spectrum should be alarmed by trump's words and behavior. the piece goes on, the nation must confront the fact beyond his character, he is showing signs of mental illness. a return to trumpian leadership is dangerous in its own right. to do so with an impaired leader who cannot governor confidently and an authoritarian waiting in the wings is perilous.
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he's never had the moral compass to lead the country, but even his supporters cannot ignore the signs he may no longer have the mental faculties to lead it either. the stakes are simply too high. alyse jordan, the newspaper in a key battleground state, powerfully laying out the arguments used against president biden earlier this year, suggesting he was too old and in decline. now saying it's about trump, but twinning with the argument he's also dangerous to hold the office. >> i don't know that his mental faculties have dramatically changed. he's always been pretty unstable, so i don't know if i necessarily agree with that part because he's always been unstable. but, in terms of the age argument, yes, why did we apply one standard to joe biden, and we don't apply it to donald trump?
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he's an old guy. i felt sorry for him struggling with the garbage truck yesterday. that's not the donald trump from years ago. >> sean kennedy calling it iconic. >> seems like an old man is being pushed. >> he's saying things that are dangerous, and taking the word democracy out of what it is to be the united states of america. he's called for the imprisonment of journalists, calling us disloyal, and amplifying rhetoric. if this is age or mental illness, let me tell you, it's not new. it's just more. if history has taught us anything, it's that democracies are fragile. america's founders, elise,
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organized it to be a stabilizing force. i wonder if your former boss, george w. bush, hillary clinton said it would be great to hear from him. >> he had the standard, he has not endorsed, period. he is keeping in that. putting his trust in institutions, which so far has worked out for us. you don't know the unintended consequences until you do it. i will just say that's his judgment. i thought his daughter, barbara bush, speaking out, said a lot about where the bush family and their families are. coming up, a new york times magazine investigation finds republicans have taken control of election boards in some battleground states, laying the ground work to potentially deny the results of the presidential election. the reporter behind the piece
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so, jim, you have new in- depth reporting on how the days to come may play out. possibly threatening the certification of the 2024 election. you traveled to four battleground states, meeting dozens of election officials, sitting in on many hours of local meetings and report, quote, although the stop the steel movement of 2020 has evolved into the considerably more sophisticated election integrity movement of 2024, its success is premised on persuading election administration that fraud is real, and they have the authority and the legal duty to do something about it. please tell us more about what
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you have learned. >> i think two things in the preceding conversation were perfect for this. that is that january 6th was really aneffort to break the certification process. it begins at the hyper local level at your local election board,yer local commission, and what has happened since january 6th , the anger that drove the riot, that had millions of americans believe in their bones the election was stolen. it seeked into the grass roots evil and into the election boards, and now this phenomena where board members in the process, their job is to stamp the votes. you can contest fraud, and campaigns can have it out they are pressing the new idea it's not an administration act. it's a duty to stop the
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fraudulent election. >> the defense has been hardened around our elections. there's a great piece in the times magazine, laying out a piece of how much safer in 2024 the election was in 2020 when it was incredibly safe as well according to the cyber security experts. as a practical question, what are these people going to do if they try to cheat and flip the results of the election? aren't there -- there will be court challenges, no? >> every election expert you talk to long time lawyer say because it's a mandatory act, it will fail, and the courts will come in, and there's new provisions in the law that make it harder, but that said, there's a path that could inspire people to try this as they have been trying to. that path is that there's a new hard deadline in december by which states must get their votes in. it used to be a softer thing called safe harbor. now the law does not say what
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happens if you miss the deadline. again, there's processes new to fast track it through the courts, but you need poem to agree to do their legal duty, so the fears are, what if you miss the deadline? people don't do their legal duty? now you start bumping into the electoral college deadline and january 6th and now congress. what do we have? >> talk about the psychology of the people you interviewed are. they doing this because they want to do everything they can to get donald trump into office? even if they understand it's not the most legal thing to do? or do they genuinely believe they have a duty to do this? if you genuinely believe this, any of us would fight to get the election result we thought was the justified one. >> it's a great question, and i have to say the people i was speaking to sincerely believe this. it didn't feel cynical to me. it felt deeply held and as one
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commissioner in nevada told me, this is her calling, her oath. she would be lying to certify an election she believes is fraudulent. it's not her job under the law. i didn't find it to be a partisan employee. i think she would like trump to win, but that didn't seem to be driving her as much as the doubt. as a system, we have to think about it, that is there. held by millions of people. it doesn't just go away with a harris win or even go away with a trump win. >> but, jim, it's there because they deliberately lie about it. it's like j.d. vance and trump donald trump saying dogs and cats are being eaten. people believe that because they are spreading the laws.
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people used to say that about neil armstrong's landing on the moon, it didn't really happen. it was on a backlot in hollywood in burbank. i do wonder, so this deeply held, okay, great what about the 63 federal court cases that said there's no widespread vote or widespread fraud. what about the supreme court decision on pennsylvania where even the two most conservative members of the court say elections die. taking the case will not change the outcome. trump's own people saying it was the safest ever. i could go down the list, but, yeah, they think this, and i'm sorry. let me just say, so what? so what that they are believing lies and reading epic times and
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reading chinese cult conspiracy websites? tell me, how exactly are you supposed to reason with that when they are ignoring the facts and making up their own? >> well this is what a lot of election administrators on the other side, and there's far more of them, i assure you, say. they are constantly answering the questions, and it takes up a lot of resources. >> by the way, when you say on the other side, you're saying people who agree to the facts because i know a lot of republican officials, and you can see republican officials in maricopa county, repeatedly saying stop lying. it was a fair and safe election. michigan, stop lying. fair and safe election. in florida, officials saying stop lying. fair and free election. you're saying the other side, again, not to draw too fine of a point on it, but the other side is not like republicans or
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democrats. the other side are fact and conspiracy theories. >> and it's a coalition of republicans, democrats, and administration is together on this. like i said, far more of them, but the issue for everything you're saying, every time they come back and say, listen, that's not true. let's not forget about the dominion settlement. fox news had to pay almost $800 million to settle the defamation claim, but it's coming up in commission meetings all over america. for everything you're saying which is true, it's still driving action, and that action has been taking place over four years in preparation for dare i say it, the next few weeks, when we are going to see if it does play out and if the courts kick in. up next, my conversation with grammy winning singer and song writer stevie nix. we talk about her rallying call
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lesson to women. ♪♪ ♪ unless you stand up, take it back ♪ take it back ♪ i have my scars ♪ you have yours ♪ don't let them take your power ♪ don't leave it alone in the final hours ♪ they'll take your soul, they'll take your your power, unless you stand up and take it back ♪ try to see the future and get mad ♪ it's slipping through your fingers ♪ you don't have what you had f0
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♪ you don't have much time to get it back inspired by the reversal of roe v. wade, the lighthouse is a glaring beacon of warning to women across the america. joining me stevie nicks and sheryl crow. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> your body of work taps into truths about the human experience, grief, loss, resilience, independence and empowerment, stand back. heartbreak, dreams, self- preservation. power, sisters of the moon. unity, the chain. strength and vulnerability, leather and lace. all human truths, and your
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writing confronts those truths. now you have this song of warning, of intense warning, the lighthouse, and stevie, the words are not minced in the song. don't close your eyes and hope for the best. it's slipping through your fingers. you don't have much time to get it back. don't leave it alone in the final hours. so stark. why? and what is the warning? >> well, it's like don't look away. i think you know, my mom and dad talked a lot about world war ii to me, a lot about germany. >> my parents were refugees of the war. >> i know that, and you, and it's like they would always say, you know, my mom would say never let this come to our shores, and that's in a song i where called show them the way, and my dad would say, don't ever forget what your mother and i were fighting for.
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>> that's where we are now. >> basically don't close your eyes and look away. look how many people closed their eyes and looked away. when they looked away, so much was done. we went to bed and week up the next morning, and roe v. wade had been dissolved. unbeknownst basically to most of us, gone, and for somebody who is 76 and already lived through it. >> 50 years ago. >> 50 years ago. right. i graduated from high school in 1966. i was 18. so from '66 to '73 there was no roe v. wade, and then all of a sudden there was. until not very long ago, there was roe v. wade, all of those years, and i kind of feel very much and did from the beginning very deja vu. i have lived through this. i have seen it. it was in the shadows. it was a shadowy conversation,
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and i was young, and it wasn't affecting me, but i was very aware it was going on. >> i want to ask you about -- i can't believe i'm about to say, stevie nicks called me at 9:00 on saturday night, what you called me about last saturday night, the inspiration of the song, the fall of roe happened, and you were watching the news, i guess? >> i was. >> tell me about it. >> because i have been watching morning joe and you. morning mika and morning joe since like 2016. i feel like i know you, really, really well because i have been watching you for so long, so anyway, there was a day they thought you were going to crawl out of the television set. >> women are not going to stand by idle and saying, you can take away our rights. you can take away our personal rights, our sister's rights and our daughter's rights? forget it. watch out.
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>> if i could have crawled through the television set, i would have. >> you would have. from that morning onward, people started saying things like, somebody besides mika has to say something. somebody has to do something, and i'm like, eco, i have a platform. >> uh-uh. >> i go on stage every night, and i'm not going to go on stage in states that will hate me for it, but i can go on stage and think my thing to the audience. i can write a song. i didn't sit right down at my desk to write a song. a couple of days later, i went to bed, and i just week up early and sat up in bed and started to write this poem. you can see, i have a journal here that shows me -- >> your process? >> what i do. it's a lot. in 20 minutes the whole song, the whole song was written. in 20 minutes. >> whoa. >> my best friend came in, and
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i said you have to listen to this. we were on the road, and i said, it's too bad we didn't record it. >> my assistant came in and i said can you record this? i found a crazy strange instrumental done by some people from sweden that we have yet to meet, but we belove them so much because they were part of the song, and i sang it right along to it. the original version that you hear. >> are you kidding me? >> it's original. i never wanted to have it changed. it had the guttural feel at 8:30 in the morning. >> take one. >> we never did the vocal over again, and sheryl crow who ended up being the main producer was down with that. she said that's good. we recorded it. i invited half of the band to listen to it. we went around the table, and my lead guitarist, that's very
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powerful. my lead security guy was like that's super powerful. my makeup artist was like it's powerful. i was like, okay, we are going to finish this and do this. >> sheryl, let me ask you about this. if you could talk, please, about the message of the song and the process? >> first let me say, this is only one of the reasons they love stevie. i think one of the reasons that her fan base love her is that she writes and she speaks from the heart. everything that she does is authentic. one of the people who is truly an authentic artist through and through. the way she lives and views experience life is from an artist mindset. she draws, paints, and she is constantly writing. if i could have her journal for a year, i could produce a 24-
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album set from stevie. this was different. stevie necessarily throughout her career, she has not weighed in in politics. it was bigger than it was about politics. for a moment, she was like, is this going to -- she put that aside, and this is something that is guttural, and it is heart level for her, and you see, after she did it on saturday night, a lot of how much it resinates with people. we are not used to seeing stevie stand up there and sing about something that is historical. it's something that will affect generations to come. you no i, obviously she and i are not necessarily affected deeply by whether we can have an abortion. that's not the point. the point is for all of the women in this country to have the opportunity to decide what happens with their bodies. when she brought me the song, i
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just said, let's just figure out what paints the landscape in a way that you feel fortifies the basic spirit of the song. it's been a joy and inspiration to watch her navigate it. >> and then we took two years to refine it to get it to the point that we both really said it's finished. >> it's ready. it's ready. >> sheryl, i know you have to go because you're on the road, so i want to ask you another question. you have been an advocate on many levels for years. rock the vote in the '90s, you were on the board. what in the world is going on? if you could speak about simply stepping up at this moment and voting. >> it's really filled me with about what it says about us.
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i think when we elect a leader, it reflects ourselves. i feel a lot of fear being committed in order to motivate us to vote. i look at this election as what do i want this country to look like as i bring up two boys who are asking hard questions about roe v. wade and about the environment and why the storms? what is happening? and i am going to the polls with the hope that my intention of voting the way i will vote is representative of who i am as a human being, who i am as a human being is someone empathetic, that is compassionate, that doesn't feel like the freedoms of other people rob me of having a free and happy life, unless they are entitled to have military grade weaponry and walk into my kids'
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schools. there's freedoms we have to hold responsibly. i feel like the dialogue has gone so negatively in the last six or eight years, we have to find a way back to the essence of who we want to be as individuals and look around and ask yourselves where can i be helpful, not who is my enemy because they don't believe in what i believe. that's what i'm taking to the polls. up next, we will hear from the cast and director of the series "disclaimer." kate is journalist whose life is upended because of a secret from her past. we will be right back. we will . ) with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can be serious for those over 60, including those with asthma, diabetes, copd and certain other conditions. but i'm protected. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective
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upended from a secret and her past. the cast joined morning joe to discuss the seven-part mystery drama. >> you keep everyone in the dark to maintain the balance. and you think you have succeeded. >> kathryn. kathryn. >> it's about me. >> destiny doesn't knock. >> she is outwardly successful in a outwardly happy marriage, a documentary journalist with truth, integrity, and authenticity, used to exposing others. a book arrives the night after receiving an award for her documentary work, and it appears to be about an event that happened to her 20 years
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prior. the more we try to bury the past, the more it will return like an emotional tsunami. it's sent to everybody. the interesting thing about kathryn, she hasn't had a chance to fully know who she is in the same way the audience doesn't know. >> she died! it was enjoyable. she was a selfish -- >> the director explores the mystery through the perspectives of different characters, leaving it to the audience to form their own opinions. >> everything we were describing throughout the first six chapters was truthful. we were not misleading the audiences. there was a constant revisiting of the script, and as cate was diving deeper and deeper into her character, because we shot in continuity, there were new inspirations.
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i don't think i have ever had any closer collaboration with an actor, but i'm talking from the standpoint of the overall process, from the moment that cate decided to do this, she was a constant collaborator for the transformations in the script, the new drafts we did. >> i knew that moment. i knew that name for years. but until then, i thought she was just an innocent bystander in my life's demise. >> actress layla george is in flashbacks, revealing the secrets that haunt her in the present. >> it's a complex character. there's a couple of different sides to her, and jumping between those versions of her, sometimes in the same day. sometimes in the same morning, and figuring out how i was
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going to do that in a way that didn't take any time. there's something about being able to watch and study these great actresses and just attempt to kind of do them justice. it's terrifying and also such a huge honor. >> we have a second hour of morning joe on this sunday morning coming up right after the break. ng up right af ter the break. at ge betmgm, everyone welcome offer. soer you're courtside ng to hit the over... or up here trying to hit the under. whew! or, hitting that win with your crew. ohhh! yes, see defense! or way up here with a same game parlay. yaw! betmgm's got your back. get your welcome offer. and play with the sportsbook born in vegas. all these seats. really? get up to a $1500 new customer offer in bonus bets when you sign up now. betmgm. download and bet today.
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back to morning joe: weekend. we are only two days out from electing our next president. here's some of the conversations we have had in the last week leading up to election day. >> she's a radical war hawk. let's put her with nine barrels shooting at her and see how she feels about it when the guns are trained on her face. they are in washington in a nice building saying, let's send 10,000 troops right in to the mouth of the enemy, but she's a stupid person. >> nine barrels shooting at her face, and this is, again, i want the wall street journal editorial page to look at this. we have been spending a lot of time, rightly about the washington post bending to the will of donald trump, and the los angeles times, bending to the will of donald trump, and
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actually banning, and keep that up. actually banning -- keep that up please. >> they will. >> actually banning, banning editorials where their editorial team calls for harris' selection. let's go back to the wall street journal who i have noted and read to you every day, because for most of the time, they have called out donald trump's excess, but going to the final weeks of the campaign, donald trump goes on bloomberg and says the wall street journal always gets it wrong. says he's going to talk to murdock, and then what happens? they start making fun of people who are concerned about donald trump and his calls for violence. they laugh and jokingly say, this is, again, after donald
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trump has attacked them and saying he is having a meeting with murdock. they write an op-ed on monday talking about a fascist meme as if saying i'm going to use my military troops and my national guard to attack my democratic political opponent. as if that is a meme. and then, a few days later, as if they have not already humiliated themselves enough, donald trump keeps talking about violence against his political opponent, and they write another op-ed saying to all of the billionaires reading, and all of the guys driving around maseratis who have doubled their fortunes going to country clubs, calling kamala harris a socialist, double down and say there's nothing to see here.
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the democrats have been far worse, and then we see this. i wonder, can we put this up again? i wonder wall street journal editorial page, does this look like a meme to you? does this look like something that you and the new york times editorial page and the washington post editorial page in better days, and every editorial page and politician on the republican side and democratic side and independents would all come out speaking against this? >> right. >> you have preemptively to a man you believe is going to win next tuesday, with many on his own side panicking. they are panicking and saying, if we don't get more young men out, we are going to lose this
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race to kamala harris. but, willie, let's just again look at this 30,000 feet, and this is how donald trump ends his campaign, calling for nine rifles aimed at liz cheney's face to shoot at her face. this is how donald trump is ending his campaign for president. >> yeah, it's a staggering moment here as we make the turn into the critical final weekend, and we can already anticipate, it's probably already happening what the response will be. he didn't mean that literally, joe. you guys always blow these things out of proportion. how many times does he have to say things like this? you can't take them in a vacuum. you can see him saying general
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mark millie deserved death for reassuring china in the moments after january 6, 2021. this kind of language he used again and again and this violent rhetoric about imprisoning opponents and shutting down television networks, and about people who cross him in any way deserving the worst kind of punishment. what do we know about that? maybe a flip comment to him, maybe something he is was throwing off the cuff. maybe he meant she should go to war herself and stand there and feel like what it is like to be embattled. we know his supporters take the signals literally. some of them. some of them take them literally. see january 6th. stirs the pot, walks away, and lets hell break loose as we saw on january the 6th. >> gene robinson, we see the headline, and i would be glad
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to play the clip again if anyone at the wall street journal wants to call it a meme has we close the campaign, but gene robinson, you have been reporting for decades, like most great journalists, you have spent your time in the london bureau as the washington most london bureau chief as our friend steve ratner and morrow and others have been through there. it has provided you a unique vow at how the world looks at the united states. i will ask in a second, but i just want to ask you, your reaction to donald trump calling for liz cheney to be shot in the face by nine guns, nine rifles in the closing weekend of the campaign?
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not only what it says about where the republican party is in 2024, but also what it must look like to our allies in london, in paris, in madrid, okay, in warsaw, across the world. >> it looks completely insane to our allies across the world. it is -- this is unprecedented, and this is -- i'm so glad we are focusing on this and spending some time. this is not normal. this is not acceptable. this is so dangerous, and i just want to -- you know, i don't usually do a personal appeal, but i am. i hope my friend, the editor of the wall street journal editorial pages, and a friend of mine, paul, are you watching this? are you paying attention to
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this? is this okay with you? i know it's not. you have a responsibility to say that to your readers. this is absolutely beyond the pail. it's a direct threat. not nine barrels pointed at her, but shooting at her this is just -- >> yeah. >> gene, i second that plea for people like paul and others to have the strength that they need to step up, for people at the washington post to step up. liz cheney just posted a response. this is how dictators destroy free nations. they threaten those who speak against them with death. we cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel man who wants
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to be a tyrant. #womenwillnotbesilenced. #votekamala. so many people will cast this off as you guys, he doesn't mean it. who in your life, i ask to the people who say you guys, who in your life would you allow to speak that way? let alone someone that you would vote for president? just to speak that way. >> what politician? what politician would be allowed to speak this way? >> joe, i love your term about the billionaires and your term with the wall street journal, preemptively trading on america. >> and with the wall street journal, they after donald trump attacked them. >> they caved. >> trump says i'm going to talk to their boss. i'm going to talk to murdock. >> we will have much more of morning joe: weekend after the
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welcome back. we have been talking about donald trump's attack on liz cheney, where he suggested she should have guns trained at her face. >> it's as bad as it gets, as frightening as it gets, and it should be taken seriously. there's a lot of narratives to look at in the final days of the campaign this one is hard to turn away. who in your life speaks this way? what joe points out, we are seeing big corporations and
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billions capitulating to donald trump. >> they are hedging their bets right now. >> that's lame, weak. >> there's a lot happening here, the growing theory of the case that part of the donald trump campaign has been so over the top confident about the victory next week, we see it from elon musk every day and top allies they are priming supporters to expect a win. suggesting the only way they can lose is if the election is not fair. it's previewing not just court cases, but fears of violence. >> but, jonathan, you have donald trump's own people, and you even have people like charlie kirk freeing out now, telling the truth, saying the numbers are looking terrible in pennsylvania. right now, trump is on his way to losing. i think it's a politico story
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showing what kirk and others were saying because early voting, according to them and many others, not going their way. women are going out, and they are voting, and two things are happening at once. the harris campaign is getting more confident by the day that things are breaking their way in the blue wall states, and the trump campaign has two things happening. one, donald trump is starting, and you know things are going well in pennsylvania for harris because he's starting to claim that, oh my gosh, they are trying to steal the vote from me. that's one hand. on the other hand, charlie kirk and other people attached to the trump campaign or are big supporters of the trump campaign are literally freaking out, saying publically, we are going to close if the voting patterns continue this way. >> yeah, you're seeing, a false confidence being put forward by the trump campaign. in part, they want to appease the candidate who doesn't like
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to hear bad news. beside the scenes, there's growing worry. i talked to the trump folks feeling better about this a few weeks ago than they are today. the polling suggests the undecided breaking voters may be going for harris. early voting data, as discussed on this show, it can be deceptive, but there's signs at minimum it's going well for the harris campaign, particularly in the blue wall states. they feel increasingly confident about their chances it will be tight. they live in fear as democrats have since 2016 a late-breaking day for trump, but they have not seen it happening in the early voting, willie. we are seeing -- and trump is also -- that's the other part of this, joe mentioned his truth social post the other day, claiming fraud in pennsylvania. we are seeing trump's outburst
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in rhetoric increase more and more. what does that usually show us? behind the scenes, he's getting worried. the truth social is a window into his soul and what he thinks. this may be slipping from him. were he to lose, suddenly all of the criminal cases come back, and that's adding to the pressure, i'm told. >> we saw the amplification of people supporting donald trump, and some people around donald trump, and a completely fabricated story about the haitian migrants voting multiple times in the state of georgia. the republican secretary of state said it's a lie. don't believe it we can expect to see the lies amplified by donald trump and the people around him. we don't grade on a curve. unfortunately not giving him a pass. let's pretend it's a normal
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presidential campaign, and this is the final weekend before election day, and just go down the list, just yesterday, the things that this candidate, the man who wants to return to the white house did. he called effectively for the execution of liz cheney. he wants guns pointed at her. >> shooting at her. >> sue cbs for $10 billion for routine editing of an interview with kamala harris. in the state of new mexico yesterday, which he said he won twice. he lost twice, including last time by double digits, spending part of his time there. he said rfk jr. will have a prominent role as a health official in his administration. think of the implications of that. some say he would make measles great again due to his views on vaccines, and most importantly, as we have been saying, seeding the ground for the lie that his election was stolen from him. >> you undersold it.
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seriously. he didn't say pointing at liz cheney, said shooting. he said rfk would be over women's health, and we had elon musk coming out saying repeatedly folks should expect economic suffering in the short- term should trump win. mike johnson opening up the idea of going back at the affordable care act. i mean, this is a remarkable close to the campaign. i was struck by the fact that, you know, obviously it's insane that trump said what he said about liz cheney. saying she should know the consequences of war before voting for it. whatever. not the idea that you would sort of imagine her being shot at is the problem here. i was struck by the fact he was being interviewed on stage by tucker carlson. a normal campaign would not be doing that. they would try to expand the coalition. they would not say to women, i will protect you whether you want it or not.
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it's a campaign that has been rigid, overconfident; hyper focused on one sliver of the electorate, and they will go time and time again, and they can act in a way that would appease them and also alienate everyone else. this is the big test right now, and when joe mentions charlie kirk freaking out. the reason he's freaking out, the early indications, early voting. the early indications, the big gamble they made may not work out. if you want a reason why, just go down the litany of issues that willie and i listed. they could not reorient the campaign to something a little less offensive at the end. >> willie? >> and obviously what we are seeing here, very clearly, donald trump just drilling down deeper on his base of support.
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that is not to say, expanding to women in any way, perhaps the nikki haley voters, just drilling down deeper and deeper. it has to be said, he's preparing his voters for the idea that the election was stolen for him because, that's not the stance and position of a winner, a guy who thinks he will take the election, someone saying i might lose, and i better get my people ready for an alternate version of the story. >> yeah. the message that he would only lose if the election was rigged has been bubbling through the last few months ever since he ran in 2020 and started running in 2016. i remember going to the rallies, and it was a theme then, certainly in the last few days, it's gotten much more specific and pointed. pointing at lancaster county in pennsylvania saying there's risks there, and in georgia. the campaign has a problem. on one hand, they want people to get out and vote earlier, and you have elon musk saying early voting is opened up to
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fraud. they have not got the message very straight, but it's true in the last few days, that the darkness and the threats coming from donald trump have been exacerbated. you have to think back to when donald trump came in to office in 2016, and there were guardrails around him and people around him, and there was the republican party that was still pushing back against him. none of that really exists this time, and if he does win, this time, you have to think this would be a donald trump talking as he does now, without the guardrails that held him in check in 2016, and the system that held him in check, but only just in 2020. i think that's why you have a lot more alarm when you talk to european allies and a lot more alarm in just the last week or two, coming from diplomatic leaders in washington and leaders amongst in europe and among america's allies. they see this will be donald
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trump unfettered. liz cheney said if you don't want to hire him to be your babysitter, you shouldn't hire him to be the president. would you hire him to be your ceo? character suggests they wouldn't. there's just two days until election day, and alyssa slotkin of michigan will tell us about the help she is getting from a former republican colleague in her competitive senate race. she will join us after the break. n us after the break.
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president harris. there's an opportunity, an opportunity a week from tomorrow for michigan to send a message to the whole world. to tell the world who we are. >> former republican congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming on monday, campaigning with democratic congresswoman elissa slotkin. cheney has endorsed her to keep the seat in democratic hands as the sitting senator retires. we will start with the bipartisan support for your campaign. do you think it will make a difference in the final hours? >> well, look, i mean, i'm someone who is a democrat, represented a republican leaning district the entire time i have been in congress. in michigan, swing voters independently minded voters oftenly make a huge difference in our elections. it was an appeal to folks
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there's some things more important than party. that's our democracy, our country, and i was proud to have her, and glad that we were able to get back together again. >> what are you hearing from constituents, men and women and also data that your campaign is bringing in? will women's reproductive health care be a beacon in your election? >> yeah, i mean, first of all, the race is close. michigan is a swing state for a reason. i think the issue of choice here in michigan, even though we did our job in 2022, codified roe v. wade in our constitution, voted on it here, i think the issue of choice continues because one, there's been no stop in the other side of the aisle pushing constant antichoice initiatives constantly. i voted 15 times i think in the last year and a half to block those things. real fear of a national ban depending on who gets in, and it's also a standin for a
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bigger set of issues. it's the fundamental question of do you trust women? if you're willing to take away this right? what are the other rights you're willing to take away from women and other people? it kind of represents something bigger than the issue of just roe v. wade. it's a standin. in michigan, we live right next to indiana. if you're driving to chicago for a concert, you have set of rights on one side of the dirt and different set of rights on the other side of the dirt of this invisible line. we feel it acutely here. it's a live issue in the state and i think the country. >> congresswoman, good morning. everyone i talk to about your race in the state of michigan keeps coming back to the idea of the general motors plant in lansing being converted to an ev plant with the controversy around that. your opponent said the grant should be rejected. can you explain a little bit about why it's such an important issue in your state?
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>> yeah, i mean, look, i think that, you know, the issue of the next generation of vehicles of electric vehicles and hybrid vehicles became a political issue. again, in michigan, we don't care what you want to drive, but we want to make the next generation of vehicles. the grand river plant they represent right now, it's being converted to an electric vehicle plant, saving 650 jobs and adding another 50. if you're standing in front of those local 652 uaw, talking about their jobs. i do not understand this idea from the other side of the aisle f my opponent that, you know, china that is eating our lunch on electric vehicles, and we should accept that and not invest in making the vehicles here. i think it's in the last few days, it's certainly come to people's notice that a big loan of 450 plus million dollars was given to tesla years ago, right? to help them get started.
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why not gm? why not ford? why not our detroit-based makers here? it's become a political issue. i don't really understand the approach from the other side. i'm on team america, not team china when it comes to building the next generation of vehicles. >> the foreign policy potentials in another trump presidency is something we have not talked about enough. candidate for u.s. senate elissa slotkin from michigan, thank you very much for being on this morning. coming up on "morning joe: weekend," you can't be president if you hate americans. that's what donald trump said this week somehow with no sense of the irony there. we will play another game of donald trump projection or confession, next on "morning joe: weekend." on, ne xt on "morg joe: w eekend." - ♪ unnecessary action hero! unnecessary. ♪ - was that necessary? - no.
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you can't lead america if you don't love americans. it's true. the most corrupt, horrible people. these are horrible people. oops, we should get along with everybody. they are horrible people. he's the worst president in the history of the usa. obama was a great divider. kamala harris a low iq individual. david marion, pretty boy says -- i don't think he's that good
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looking anymore. time does that. time does that. she would get us into a third world war. look at that general. he's a real general, not like millie. not like millie. not like kelly, low iq guy. they are incompetent people. kamala is a radical left markist, rated lower than bernie sanders or pocahontas herself. they are grossly incompetent people, and they have destroyed our country. donald trump wants to put us in jail. donald trump is going to go after some of the scum that you see back there. you see back there, so dishonest. >> you can't be president if you hate the american people. there's a lot of hatred. >> there is a lot of hatred,
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coming from him. that's donald trump. he's either projection or confession. i had to write this down. >> yeah? >> after saying you can't run america unless you love america, people who oppose him are corrupt, horrible people. joe biden, the worst president. by the way, the wall street journal today saying whoever is elected president inherits a fantastic economy. calls kamala harris low iq despite the fact that she just completely lapped him in the debate, and he couldn't even do 60 minutes. obama, great divider. he talks about millie not being a real general, one of the highest decorated soldiers of
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this generation. his chief of staff, general kelly, also low iq. calling his opponent a markist and a senator, called pocahontas, and ended up calling the press that were there, in a hostile environment scum. there you go. the hypocrisy, mika, over a misstatement by joe biden, which he quickly corrected is so laughable. this guy does this every day, and then you turn on fox news, and oh, how could anybody do this? i have never seen this before? despite the fact that one of the people saying that yesterday on fox news stood by while donald trump watched violence erupt on january the 6th and kept allowing violence to erupt on january the 6th,
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and said the people that were beating the hell out of cops were patriots. yes, yes, yes. willie, the gaslighting never ends. they really do think that their voters are that stupid. it makes me sad for those voters that donald trump, and people on tv, on other channels, really think that americans are that dumb. >> let's not forget that donald trump has spent the last couple of weeks calling the entire country a garbage can. his words. he initiated the garbage talk. you're right, going through the litany of insults he offered yesterday, and the truth is the audience he is talking to live in a media ecosystem that makes sense for them. joe biden and kamala harris ruined the country. donald trump calls it a third
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world country. to paraphrase john shapiro, please stop s-talking the country. it's objectively undeniable that things are going well. inflation needs to come down more, we know that, but he has to create the fantasy world, mika that does not exist. talking about a world and america that does not exist to be the savior. >> this is from the wall street journal, which has bent over backyards, especially the editorial page to do everything they can to grant the permission structure to voters to vote for a guy that is trashing america, that, of course, tried to overthrow the last presidential election, good luck there.
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fast forward to the end of november, and you're sitting at the thanksgiving table. >> imagine donald trump was elected president. >> now also imagine that democrats have lost the senate. >> and that we've also lost our chance to change the supreme court. >> and we've also lost the house, meaning there's no check on donald trump and his project 2025 agenda. >> we know this feeling. it's 2016 again, but it's worse. >> i don't want to relive that feeling. i want to look back and say i did everything i could. >> to elect kamala harris and protect our democracy.
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>> and defeat maga extremism. >> and defeat donald trump for good. >> swing left unleashed what it calls the super states strategy over the weekend. sending hundreds of volunteers on buses to crucial swing districts from pennsylvania to california. swing left's 1 million members have collectively mobilized to raise nearly $20 million and contacted more than 10 million voters to help democrats win next tuesday. joining us on behalf of swing left, three of the people you saw in the video, actors and political activists krya sedgwick and adam brody and yasmin, i will start with you. what are your final plans before election day? >> with just eight days left in the election you talked about
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all morning, basically tied. we are making sure that everybody from anywhere in the country who wants to get involved is not entering the election with any regret. it's going to come down to such close margins, we all remember in 2016 what it felt like to wonder, could i have knocked on more doors or made more phone calls or donated to get us across the finish line, with kyra, adam, kathryn, and our 1 million members around the country, we are making sure that anybody who goes to swingleft.org can volunteer, donate, and not just in general, but in the districts that matter the most, who will determine who will be president, whether we are going to have control of the senate, the house, and of course, key state legislators. >> i have to many questions about the election, watching everything play out at madison square garden yesterday, and i just wonder, why trump republicans and trump supporters are betting against the health of women.
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what trump has done is destroying health care for women in america, already has. the medical gains that we have more us are now not available to women in america. it's not just women in their reproductive years or having babies or pregnancies that are problematic. women of all ages need abortion health care for cancer and other medical conditions. i don't really understand, like speaker mike johnson on stage yesterday, trying to get around the abortion reality, making it a faith issue when it's not a faith issue. >> it's reprehensible. it's disgusting. it's vulgar, and it's -- >> forcing a young child to deliver their rapist's baby? >> it's shock. it's almost hard to look at and get your head around. we have to look and not be afraid to look, and with our rage and fear and panic, we need to actually do something. i think that it feels so good, especially right now, when you're sitting at home freaking
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hey there. i'm luis weeks, and i'm talking from ontario, canada, in 2039. i made this documentary to remember how we ended up this way. >> it was a ground swell of support for what the great leader was promises, mass deportation, detention camps, and expanded border wall. >> is that now? >> well, of course, it was part of the trailer for the new podcast trauma series titled it
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happened here 2024. it's a functionallized documentary from the future, offering a stark warning about the potential rise of fascism in the united states. in it, a 14-year-old girl in the year 2039 interviews relatives about why her family and the country fell apart after the 2024 election. that is when the so-called great leader ascended to power. with the help of the supreme court and the aftermath pits two brothers in the family against each other. joining us now are the actors who portray those brothers in the podcast series john turturro and tony shalhoub. good to have you both. it's chilling. the timing couldn't be better. does it have to go the way your podcast says? tony, start. tell us about it. >> i don't think it has to go that way at all, but this piece
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is a cautionary tale, and the podcast is sort of sprung out of a novel, written just four years ago by rick dresser, called it happened here, and inspired by the sinclair lewis' 1935 novel, it can't happen here. it is really actually a family drama, which is what i think drew john and i to it, and it's -- this family is splitterred, and there's -- it starts with a teenage girl, a 14-year-old girl interviewing her family, as you said in 2039. >> right. >> and trying to figure out what happened and how the family splintered and how the country splintered starting in 2024. >> whoa. can you talk about which sides the brothers are on?
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john who are are you? >> i'm more right side, and he's on the left side. he's a professor, and i run like a security firm, and you can see how the roads they take, you know, how they splinter, and then also how they connect. >> finding common ground? >> i think it's common within a lot of families right now. >> sure. >> that there's a big divide. some people are responding to a much more base perimeter argument, i think, who are hurting, and they are not kind of thinking it through, you know, what could happen. history has shown us, time and time again, what could happen when people fall in love with sort of a leader who says i have the answers. that's something for all of us, you know, to think about, what are the ramifications of that? >> i think that's what rick dresser, the writer, and the
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director of this piece, were really trying to billboard, and that is that, you know, we are -- we have to look at it in terms of the long play. >> yeah. >> i think that there's probably where we get caught up in just what is right in front of us, the immediate. >> right. >> and we lose sight of, i think some people lose sight of what as john said, what is -- what is the long play? where are we going to find ourselves in 10, 15, maybe 20 years? >> that's right. >> wow. >> that's what this piece does so beautifully that's it for this sunday morning. we are back tomorrow morning at 6:00 eastern as we kick off election week in america. until then, enjoy the rest of your weekend. st of your wee kend.
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