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so in case you haven't heard, tomorrow is the last full day of the 2024 presidential campaign. trump has four rallies scheduled tomorrow ending the day with a rally in grand rapids. kamala harris will spend the day in pennsylvania. rallies in allen town, philly, pittsburgh. for us here we're going to have a full day of coverage and a full day and night of our
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reports. then tuesday the day, we're going to have coverage starting very early in the morning. we're all going to stay here all day and through the morning. it's going to be great. our coverage continues now with our friend. >> well it's the night before the night before. for those of you who are excited, anxious, trying to sleep. not being able to sleep. two more attempts before election day. kamala harris has had a good
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election. and there was a report who had election geeks going crazy. freakishly pollster who has a pretty spot on record over the last few election cycles. in large part because her focus is on who the electoral will be on the upcoming election and not relying on who it has been in the past. because the electoral always looks a bit different. harris leading donald trump by three points in iowa. if you're thinking to yourself, that seems really weird. why does that matter? she really win a state that donald trump won by 8 points in 2020. 9 points in 2016 where she has not spent any resources she may not but we will see. with numbers like that and a state like iowa coming from a pollster like anne seltzer all of that could be a good sign for harris in some of those blue states with some of the
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same demographics with iowa. with some state chairs. another good sign for the harris team is her huge lead with women in that poll. she has a 20 point advantage among women in iowa. the six week abortion ban that was signed in july. we'll ask mccaskell about that in a minute. and we're seeing early voting. there's momentum on the ground. here's the vice president speaking at a big big rally at michigan state university a little bit earlier tonight. >> two days to go. you ready? you ready? in one of the most
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consequential elections of our lifetime and we have momentum. it is on our side, can you feel it. >> all in all not a bad campaign if you ask me. none of us actually know what is going to happen. it can feel powerless at this moment. all of this shows momentum, enthusiasm and it's all also backed up by a far stronger game. and to the extent the quality of a campaign still matters. harris is simply closing out this one much stronger than donald trump. and on some level he kind of seems to realize that. he was asked by jonathan carl if he thought there was any way he could lose. trump said in part, quote. i guess you could lose, can lose. i mean, that happens right. i think i have a pretty substantial lead. but you could lose, bad things
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could happen. i mean, it's not exactly exuding massive confidence. two days before an election. is it? and that air coming out of the balloon feeling is not just at the top of the campaign. listen to what the atlantic tim wrote about trump's own staffers. quote, win or lose they were done with the chaos of donald trump. even if the nation was not. i mean first of all, i speak for many. i feel you trump staffers. blink twice. come on over. the water is fine over here. we welcome you in. come on over. is it really any wonder why their moral is very low with increasingly dark language like this that he said at a rally earlier today in pennsylvania. >> i have a piece of glass over here. and i don't have a piece of glass there. and i have this piece of glass here, but all we have really
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over here is the fake news, right. and to get me somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and i don't mind that so much. >> you didn't catch that there. shooting at reporters i don't mind that so much. yikes. i mean that is scary, terrible stuff. at the very same rally he also said this. >> we had the safest border in our country the day i left. i shouldn't have left. i mean honestly because we did so well. >> i shouldn't have left. also not surprising. everyone should fully expect if kamala harris wins on tuesday he's going to challenge the
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result. even in the moments when his closing isn't dark it's certainly confusing. and very hard to follow. when you watch this next moment there are two thing -ps i want you to keep in mind. the first thing is donald trump is speaking in north carolina. the second is that the guy he clearly thinks is president is a senate candidate in pennsylvania. >> we have great republicans running and you have one of the best of all right here. david mccormick. david is around here some place. >> no, david is not there because mccormick is running in a state hundreds of miles away. just over the last few hours, trump has been talking about violence in the press. mixing up what state he's speaking in. all quite the closing message. i have said it before, and i will keep saying it. nobody knows how this is going to ends up but one campaign is
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closing this thing very strong and the other seems to be losing gas. michael steele is host of the weekend here on msnbc. both are joining me now. we're going to need you caffeinated, hydrated all the things. >> trust me. >> i have a tea out in the hallway. >> we need it here. >> i'm going to change clothes once, i don't know. >> you can change clothes more than that. but we just need you hear whatever pair of clothes you're wearing. i can start with this poll. because i don't think the harris campaign thinking they're going to win iowa. i'm not suggesting that but anne seltzer is the main women are significantly for harris including a state like iowa. white voters, rural voters are not the people people think she
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does well with. what do you think? >> i think they're right. harris has run a remarkable campaign. i don't think people realize, you know, i know. michael knows, it's hard. the enterprise is a difficult one. you have to raise all this money, you have to make sure you spend every dime of it in a certain amount of time. it has to be done efficiently. you have many different layers of staff it is hard. and she's run a remarkable campaign. here's what i think. i think it's great that everyone is hearing over and over again that it's tied. because you know what that does, scares people to vote. that motivates people to vote. and who's enthusiasm is higher and has been now for over four weeks in almost every poll. our sides enthusiasm is higher. and if you think it's tied and you have enthusiasm. you know what you're going to show up and vote. the other thing about this poll that i thought that jumped off the page at me is she's the change candidate. and that's really what she's been traoeug to do. what motivates those
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independent voters more than anything is change. and those are the voters that are making up their mind and i know that late deciders in the last week have been breaking her way. and honestly, if you watch the guy for more than 10 minutes you know what you're reminded of that you really don't like the guy. i was thinking so many things. so many things -fplts. >> he's kinds of a self- centered egotistical jerk. for a lot of voters that really matters because you know what the president is, they're in your living room for four years. they're at your kitchen table, they're at your barber shop, they're at the bar, on tv. they're a constant. and i think there's something to this that people want to like the guy or the woman in this case that they're going to elect. she's smiling, she's confidence, she oozes presidential poise. i feel good about it. >> that's good, people are going to be happy to hear that whatever outfit you may be wearing.
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>> i don't want to overread into this because it's a poll. there's a couple of great signs for her including what we saw in the sign late deciders. really trending for her. including in this poll, people men over 65. we're trending more for harris than anyone would believe or suggest or thought possible. what stuck out to you and what about this past period like you said are good signs for her at this point in time. >> look, what stuck out to me is you have a sitting vice president of the united states who's presidential partner decided to step down and thrust her into the presidential campaign. having to do it with 85 days in front of you is a whole different business. to take a campaign that's
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designed and running for one person translate that to your operation. bringing some people, keeping some people, meanwhile the other party is sitting there just going, okay, okay, so we want these curtains over here. and we're going to take out this department and we're going to move in these people. for her to run the kind of campaign she has, that's what is reflected in that pole. i don't think that's what people thought would happen. i was saying along with a small group of people with us now that beneath the surface of all of this activity was. i think you put your finger on it claire, this realization when it came down to who they wanted for president the end of the day you want to like your president. at the end of the day you want to have respect for your president. at the end of the day, you want to be able to tell your children about the president in a way other than explaining that he did something weird with a microphone.
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>> i'm not explaining that to my children. >> but. >> some people are. >> some people do. i remember having to explain what my sons heard on the radio in the car on the way to school and i had to do that quick turn off thing during the clinton years. that's still important 30 years later. for parents. and i think what the vice president was able to do in a very creative way, was to play an asymmetrical game that looked like a conventional approach. she went out and convinced, we're going to do this. we're going to say these things. the a symmetrical game is at ere point how she could throw her opponent out without. that's why donald trump wanted her out of the race so bad. he didn't want her to deal what he was having to tkaeld with. she was very good at making it hard for him to deal with her.
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that's what's reflected on the poll. that's not hroágs on lost on a lot of voters out there as well. to your point, how this turns out in a couple of days. thank god the founders designed it that way and not the way donald trump wants to design it. which is why you see all the machinations in place. and what they're trying to, let's use the word, steal the election for him. that's what's in that poll. >> that's a good way of thinking about it at this point in time. let me ask you quickly before i let you go. sleep, tired all the things. i asked nancy pelosi and peters about this. i think we talked about this too. about this group of p-r group of women who are not telling their husbands. maybe they're registered no
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affiliation. how will we know on election night if there's that group. what are you looking for to tell you that. >> if we know on election night and she wins then we'll know it happened. >> that's for sure. but that particular group which i think is a big part of the story. >> it is a big part of the story. they've not handled that part well. because when you're in a hole, quit digging. they're in a hole with women then they started saying, you can't not tell your husband who you're voting for. you need to vote the way your husband wants you to vote. they started saying that outloud. and he said i'm going to protect them whether they want me to or not. they do not know how. they're going after the young male voter and it's very obvious, you know when they have hulk hogan ripping off his shift, they're playing it's a
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man's world. you know the problem with those young male low propensity, they're low propensity voters skwr >> which means they don't vote a lot. >> women have passion and anger about their freedom being taken away and women dying in parking lots and they're going to try to get the guy off the couch who's you know was excited about the release of fort nite the other night and that's a hard thing to do. >> those parts are a big part of the story. i'm sure we'll be talking a thousand times over the next 24 hours. two very important people, two very important states. michigan's democratic chair burns. and wisconsin democratic chair ben wickler join me next. they both have a lot on their shoulders. we'll be right back. my moderate to severe crohn's disease... ...and my ulcerative colitis symptoms... ...kept me...
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>> so of all the path ways for kamala to win, the one you have probably heard over and over is the blue wall states of the industrial midwest. that stands for pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. what's remarkable about those three states is how they've stuck together over the years. even when they've gone red they've voted as a block in every presidential election since 1992. one candidate has swept all three of those states in each of the last eight election cycles. presidential ones. the winner of those states ultimately won the white house in the last four of those cycles. of course we don't know how they will vote on tuesday or whether they'll vote together for a ninth straight time. it's safe to say that's a whole
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lot there's a lot riding on pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin barns is the chair of the democratic party in michigan where harris has been campaigning all day. joe wickelr is with the democratic party. i want to start with this iowa poll today. in addition to a 20 point gap that i know we're seeing in other parts of the country. it showed harris doing quite well in a rural white state. there are rural parts in other states including the two that you are the state parties chairs of. i want to start with you ben and ask you, if that poll or from what you're seeing might be a sign that harris is doing better with white voters, even rural voters in states like wisconsin. >> i will say, looking at that poll, it reminded me of what i'm seeing on the ground in
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wisconsin. wisconsin it's an overwhelmingly white, it is a state with a ton of rural communities. most wisconsinites across and women are furious. we do not want to go back to that. we've been knocking on doors all throughout the state in massive numbers. throughout the weekend, throughout the last several weeks. over and over. we heard from people who have voted from trump in the past. republicans in the past but who are telling us. this is especially women that they're voting for harris this time. that's what it feels like on the ground. >> so interesting. i want to ask you, you guys are the most in touch with what's happening on the ground. which is why i'm so excited to talk to you. what about you? when you saw the poll. did anything strike you as trends we're seeing across the country or among white voters,
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rural voters that people may have under estimated for harris? >> absolutely. and thanks for remembering michigan has all of those voters as well. we get so many questions about detroit and white voters and it's nice to have someone ask me about rural voters. folks are working hard in those districts. they're excited, they're angry. their anger has been turned to effort. they're on the roads and they're talking to voters and they say they're fed up. they're fed up with the behavior of donald trump and they want change and that change is kamala harris and they're excited to vote for her. we've done a lot of great work here in michigan to protect rights. but we all know if trump gets back into that white house. those rights are gone. that work is just, down the drain. and folks get it here in michigan because we worked hard for these rights all over the state and we're working hard right now to protect them. >> one of the things that
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people ask me a lot is what counties to watch. what are the bellwether counties. the politico highlighted some key weather counties. one of them is saginaw county michigan. is that a county you're watching and what are you watching for there. >> absolutely watching saw county. it's a classic obama, obama, trump then biden county. and it's a county that has tracked the winner in wisconsin in every election in this century. it is a county that is almost perfectly evenly split between democrats and republican. if we see that democrats are building a lead in the county on election night that means that either some combination of more democrats showing up than republicans. republicans crossing over and independents breaking for dems. if that's happening in the
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county, that means it's happening throughout the state. >> we have something because we have to keep rolling through the show. talk to us about saginaw county, what are you watching there. >> yeah we're going to watch for turn out in saginaw. happens to be some of our targeted congressional race. it's a big county for us for the work we do. we also like to pay attention to cat county on the west side of the state where we've made some tremendous gains as democrats. and oakland county where we've made tremendous gains. our big turn out push in wayne county where the city of detroit is. >> so many to watch. important days ahead. thank you so much for joining me taking time. >> we head out west where arizona is not a battleground but home to a critical sign as well. against election denier kerry lake and he joins me next.
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okay, donald trump was already baselessly claiming that the democrats were stealing the election from him. no surprise. and we know that if kamala harris beats him on tuesday he will say it was rigged. it's important to remember that as a political matter most voters just don't like that stuff. remember in 2022 when doug mastriano and kerry lake ran for can dates in the battleground state of pennsylvania, michigan and arizona. they all got fully behind donald trump's lies about the 2020 election and they all were defeated. kerry lake is in a race and that's one of the reasons she's been trailing in the polls all campaign. joining me now is democratic congressman ruben gallego of california. i know you're exhausted. trying to run through the tape
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here. >> no, i'm good. >> okay not exhausted. happy to hear that. we've seen a lot of polls from arizona. your race, the presidential race. in these polls, we have consistently seen you ahead of kerry lake and donald trump ahead of vice president harris. why do you think that is. >> well look, i've been here representing the communities of arizona for almost 15, 20 years and going to pass through the others. i've built a lot of time and trust for people. we're running a very different campaign for most campaigns and we have the whole time. i'm actually at a volunteers house. we're having a carne asada party for all our volunteers and supporters in anticipation of them going out tomorrow. and today we had close to probably more than 100,000 doors that were knocked today. and god knows how many phone calls but we've been running a
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campaign: reaching out for everybody, asking people whether you're democrat or republican we're trying to make you part of the new arizona dream. >> i love that you're at a supporters house. this is what this is all about. this is what candidates are doing across the country like you. i think one of the things even as you're focused on your own race you're probably racing for the same thing that kamala is racing for. if he loses, trump will probably not concede. if you beat kerry lake she won't either. what are you preparing for. >> when we beat kerry lake we know she will contest it. most arizonans want to move beyond. they want to have someone who is going to be fighting for them. someone who's focused on the future and not the past. what kerry lake has done is not
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just funny and weird. it's corrosive. she's caused some of my friends who work for the county to have to go their own bodyguards. she got sued by them for definition and she add to admit lying to them. we have to come up with a better way to work with our campaigns. work with republicans those who didn't support us, who did support us. with independents also and say hey, it's time to move on. time to actually be united instead of continuing to fight. so everyone else who wants to join us we're still in the fight. if you still want to go out and walk and join us go to gallego. >> before we let you get back to a delicious party. >> we have some great carne asada and the band ready to play. >> i want to ask you about
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abortion rights because abortion is on the ballot in your state. i know you've been talking about that. and you tell me if i'm wrong here. there's a real possibility the proposition could pass and the state still go for trump. which i think tágs hard to understand that seems contradictory. >> i think it's an easy yes or no when you're dealing with are candidates. there's multiple candidates on the field. in arizona, has a rich tradition of independent minded small government conservatives that are absolutely small government as in they want government to stay out of the bedroom and of their family's decisions. and they will come out and vote in that manner. and i think you're going to see that kind of mixture in terms of the politics. at the end of the day, you know
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we're running a better campaign than republicans are. we're leaning forward on a very positive future for the state and this country. and i think because of that. one based on the idea of individual freedoms and the protection there of you're going to see kamala harris win in arizona. >> congressman ruben gallego. great couple of days ahead. great to hear you're not tired. and have fun with your supporters. >> thank you. and will ickel and will ferrell who call themselves loud white men for kamala harris. billy eichner is standing by and he joins me, next.
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the harris campaign is up to its eyeballs in celebrities and people lots of big followings, big voices whatever they might be. beyonce, bon jovi, on and on an own. they're knocking on doors, speaking at rallies and some are literally running up to people on the street. >> sir, for a dollar which would you rather see a sequel to, elf or trump? >> elf. >> have you voted yet? >> no. >> who are you going to vote for? >> harris. >> you know you can vote early. >> i just registered. >> perfect. >> oh my god, thank you. thank you. >> thank you. >> it's too much. >> will ferrell will kick your if you don't vote. >> i'm voting saturday. i'm doing early voting. there's will ferrell and i forgot. >> loud white men for kamala join the call.
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>> yeah. >> who are you voting for. >> kamala. >> what's your name? >> my name is cory. >> voting for kamala. >> joining me now is emmy nominated actor, writing, comedian and producer eichel. who is not as scary as those videos. >> no i'm a nice person. >> you called yourself loud white men for kamala. it was really effective. it drew 12 million views in just the first 24 hours you posted it. that's not what happens all the time. >> no. >> i just want to ask you, like how you view, what prompted you to do that. and how you view the stakes in the moment that made you want to go out and do that with will ferrell. >> it's the stakes that prompted me. i have a platform from doing billy on the street for many years. i can't imagine not using it. when i think about the
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consequences of trump winning. he's such a reprehensible damaged human being and yet the polls are so close. but i also thought it was important not to panic. so i reached out to will and i said let's do something loud and fun and exciting because this should be joyful. you know we can't just sit around and be stressed out about it and luckily will said yes. he's done billy on the street before but i think this is the most important one i've ever done. >> i love that you say will. like will ferrell. i want an elf sequel. put a word in to your friend will. >> i will. >> you also did a sobering video. it also got a lot of attention. i want to play a part of it. you are very funny. you're funny in all these billy on the street videos. but this was sobering. >> he is very, very dangerous. and not in the cool way that some of his fan boys think he
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is. okay. i can feel that i was out talking to voters yesterday. i did not like the vibe. so, please do what you can here. you have to vote. especially if you're in a swing state but we have to do more than vote. we have to call your friends, text your friends, make sure they're voting. >> it's a little startling from people who follow you so closely but you do learn how people are feeling in elections by talking to them. and you've been doing a lot of that. you've been politically active long before this cycle. where were you when you were talking to people. what alarmed you that prompted you to post that. >> panic from trump winning. i know i said don't panic. sometimes you are panicked, and then you want to go do something joyful on the street. i was starting to feel, this was a couple of weeks ago. i was starting to feel momentum waning a little bit. >> is that the vibes things
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like what people were saying to you. >> exactly. a gut feeling. i just wanted to wake people up about what the consequences were here. it's not enough to vote. and this is really my point because i know we're on msnbc and a lot of people have voted already and voting for kamala. i watch a lot of msnbc myself. it's more, it's almost as important to volunteer as it is to vote. that's also one of the points i was trying to get involved. i work with swing vote, and we have 48 hours to win this thing. i know the polls are very close. you can make calls, knock on doors. you should go to slash action it's easy. fun and it's so much better to feel you're helping the cause than to just scroll and panic. even though you're panicking that will make you feel better >> there's so many things people can do. >> this is the most important thing. even if he wins, god forbid,
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you want to be able to say i did what i could. i went the extra mile. we need everybody out there watching this to go to swing left.org. /action you can make calls, knock on doors if you're near a swing state. they organize the whole thing for you. i'm telling you we sent 12 buses from new york to pennsylvania this morning to knock on doors. it's so great to see people. it's beautiful to see people engaging in politics and not just scrolling and not just panicking. it's a joyful thing. i encourage everyone to do it. >> that's a powerful message we're able to hear. i want to ask you, as we just mentioned we've been politically active before this. you famously had a campaign to glam up the midterms. which you've been involved in politics for a long time. we always should have glammed up the midterms. you wanted more younger voters to get involved and engaged in the process. so, tell me a little bit about that, and how it worked and what you think works and
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doesn't work to get more younger voters involved because there's a big question out there in politics. >> this is 2018, this is when we were trying to flip the house because trump was in the white house. we had to flip the guard to get some guardrails against him right. and we did but i remember thinking about the midterms and thinking, you know looking at the statistics young people just didn't vote in the midterms. old people don't vote in the midterms. a lot of people don't vote in the midterms i thought how do we do to make this joyful, to glam it up. we did all these events me and wanda sykes and will ferrell we were trying to make people aware of how important the midterms are. young people did come out to vote. i am proud of that. >> it was such a pleasure. >> thank you for having me. i'm very flattered. >> thank you what you're doing and using your voice to be so active. thank you, not everybody does that. if donald trump loses we
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c1 as we've been telling you all hours there's a lot of unknowns headed into election day but one thing you can pretty much bank on, if donald trump loses he will try to rerun his 2020 play book. that shouldn't be breaking news to anybody watching right now. we have all watched trump and his allies lay this ground work for a long time. as they claim massive election fraud and trying to convince people that elections can't be trusted. they can be trusted though. the new york times laid out it
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out as clearly as he can. basically trump prematurely claims victory. trump world continues to lie about the election process as votes are counted. and then, that is used to disrupt the process. from the vote count all the way to certification. we've seen this movie before. that is what happened in 2020 and that's what we should all be prepared for trump to do on tuesday. the good news is, prodemocracy forces have been planning ahead. joining me now is a member of president biden's 2020 and 2024 campaigns. it's great to see you. >> good to see you, thank you for having me. trump and his allies have spent a lot of time laying the ground work. we basically know the play book they're going to run. what do you think? because you've been thinking about this a lot working on this
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pac. what do you think will be different. >> this is the same play book as we saw four years ago but i think there's two important points to think about when you're thinking about that. first that was a losing play book. everything donald trump did four years ago to try to steal the election did not work. he walked over 60 court cases. they tried to place fake electors. those folks were prosecuted criminally. despite the horrific violence we saw, congress verified the outcome. the other point, you don't say what donald trump is saying. you don't do what donald trump is doing if you think you're about to win the election. you do it if you think you're going to lose one. >> you also don't go to north carolina three or four times. the vote will count, that
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democracy is very much intact that he lost the last time he tried to do these things. at the same time we know a lot more now which is why your pac is around. how are you preparing, how are you preparing for what we know he's going to try to do. >> yeah, sure. you're seeing a lot of it already. there are dozens of lawsuits happening around the country in battleground states. just since early voting has started. republicans have lost 19 times. so you're seeing once again, our institutions holding strong. the harris campaign has built probably the most sophisticated robust, impressive voter protection program in the history of presidential policy. they have hundreds of lawyers on the ground ready for anything that donald trump throws at them. then you have democracy defenders, republicans, independents standing up not necessarily for one candidate or another but for free and fair elections. we know what the play book looks like. we know what they can do at every phase of this election. we are ready regardless of what they try to do to attempt to
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steal this election. >> one of the things you've mentioned to me i think is interesting is learning the message that it needs to be bipartisan. in terms of people speaking out. so how are you doing that or preparing to make sure it's bipartisan? >> we've had an incredibly impressive group that the democracy defenders, republican lawyers like george conway, donald trump's lawyer ty cobb, democratic election, sarah matthews who worked for the trump administration. all of us sort of coming together all behind the idea that we need to be bipartisan in our advocacy for free and fair elections ensuring that every single lawful vote is counted and that americans can feel confident that when they go and make their voice heard this week that will be counted. and the american people will be the ones deciding who wins this election not donald trump. >> we have about 30 second left, t j, but you've a campaign rat of sorts. you have seen a number of
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campaigns, including bidens. does this feel like a winning campaign. >> i know that candidates are not sleeping. i would rather be the kamala harris campaign than the donald trump campaign this is a campaign that is built to win a close election. there's no one better in america to win a close election. they're prepared and ready. i think they're going to have a strong week. >> t.j., you may have a busy week ahead. we'll see. thank you so much for joining me. really appreciate it. we'll be right back after a very quick break.
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okay, very quick reminder before we go. [ inaudible ] nicolle wallace and many more you see on your screen right there, plus steve kornacki will be breaking down all the results at the big board all night long. the gang's all here starting tuesday at 6:00 p.m. eastern. i will be back here tomorrow night at 8:00 with a big show on actual election eve. but for right now, stay where you are because there is much more news coming up on msnbc. >> [ music ]

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