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the america of your dreams is calling for you to get back up. >> joe biden on tuesday's election defeat for democrats, who can't afford to despair. it is time to learn from those who came before us, and sometimes died fighting for a better future. also tonight, two black women and the first korean american man win senate seats, just some of the historic firsts in this election. plus, the rules of politics are changing. it's not about the tv ads and the big rallies. trump's use of podcasts and the disinformation of elon musk were game changers. good evening, everyone. with is our first chance to be together one on one since the election. so i wanted to begin tonight with an acknowledgement of our new reality. millions of americans woke up tuesday morning full of hope and
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joy, anticipating the election finally of america's first woman president. they put their faith in kamala harris to deliver not just the star-studded joy and the power of the culture from beyonce to taylor to basically every star in hollywood. plus, the many memes and incredible digital content and also the change that could make this multicultural democracy real and accessible and affordable to everyone. money for small businesses and child tax credits, what? but that is obviously not what happened. instead, knowing all that we know about donald trump, his vulgarity and his 34 felony counts and adjudicated sexual abuse of e. jean carroll, his buddy-buddy relationship with jeffrey epstein, his feelty to vladamir putin, and that attempted coup, despite that, the majority of american voters
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actively chose him over her. women all over this country know what it feels like to be the far more qualified woman who loses the job to mediocre or underqualified men. black women doubly so. and people are rightfully depressed and scared. the republican party made it clear they're not mad, they find some of the ideas, mass deportation camps, kind of okay. and autocracy definitely feels emment. this era is frightening in you're a women, immigrant, bi, gay, or trans, and that danger is not in your head. in a normal time when an election goes sideways, it is
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tempting to feel kind of dumb. who are we to believe women would elect a woman, let alone a black woman as its president. sure, mexico did it, but not america. but it is not crazy or dumb to believe in the possibilities of america. millions of people all around the world do too. my parents did. that's why they, like so many immigrants, including kamala harris' parents, came here to this crazy plattipus of a country with its tortured history but also so much potential. it is not crazy to believe. it's not crazy to dream. in fact, it's kind of sad not to. if kamala harris, she lived up to our dreams. she ran a remarkable, 107-day, emergency campaign full of joy and hope. she and tim walz raised a billion dollars in a couple of months and she whipped trump in
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their one and only debate. and yesterday, at her alma mater, howard university, kamala harris, first in her name, did something donald trump would never do. she conceded graciously and vowed to conduct a peaceful transfer of power. >> now, i know folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. i get it. but we must accept the results of this election. earlier today, i spoke with president-elect trump and congratulated him on his victory. i also told him that we will help him and his team with their transition. and that we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power. [ applause ] >> imagine that. she also spoke directly to young americans who chose her at a rate of 54-43% over donald trump for 18 to 29-year-olds.
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and 49-48% for voters 30 to 44, according to the nbc exit polls. particularly millennial and gen-z women who went 61-37% in her favor for 18 to 29-year-olds, and 54-43% from age 30 to 44. millions of college students, recent graduates and young americans who put their faith in her. >> sometimes the fight takes a while. that doesn't mean we won't win. that doesn't mean we won't win. the important thing is don't ever give up! don't ever give up! don't ever stop trying to make the world a better place. you have power. you have power. >> and make no mistake, fam, it is young americans.
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young americans are the ones who can't afford to buy a home or start a business or start a family. they are the ones who have economic anxiety, not the people of my generation. gen-x. many of whom have savings in the bank and bitch about the economy while planning overseas vacations. yet it was the hip-hop hulk hogan generation, the latch key kids who came up on "dynasty" "dallas" and "the apprentice" who voted in a majority for trump, to condemn our kids and grand kids to a far-right supreme court, probably for the rest of their lives. and it was not just gen-x. while 91% of black women voted for kamala harris, 53% of white women overall voted for trump. despite the open disrespect and demonization hurled by jd vance and the supreme court stripping women's bodily autonomy,
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courtesy of donald trump, who closed his campaign by dropping the "b" word on nancy pelosi. the breakdown by education was stark. harris won 57% of white women with college degrees. and lost 63% of white women without them. it was also men. trump won every age group of men, including 60% of gen-x men and 6 in 10 white men. also latino men, despite the utter disrespect shown by trump and his promise to deport some of your mixed status families, most of them voted in a 55% majority to make the deportations happen. y'all voted with steven miller and david duke and against your own sisters and -- who chose kamala harris, with 60% of their votes. so you own everything that happens to your mixed status families, and to your wives, sisters from here on in.
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however, we only have so much time for blame. we now need to make a plan. because donald trump's spokesperson has confirmed that, upon taking office at noon on january 20, 2025, martin luther king, jr., day, he will begin the mass deportation of up to 11 million immigrants who are living and working in america. he plans to put robert f. kennedy, jr., in parts of our health care, depriving millions of americans of life-saving vaccines. and he and his people will implement project 2025, something he pretended to know anything about, when he was lying to you on the campaign trail, when he wasn't rambling for hours. and then there are the tariffs. which will make the price of everything soar while he and
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elon musk grift money out of our economy to share with their fellow billionaire friends while mainly millennial and retiree americans feel the pain. so here we are. and what i can tell you is what i plan to do. and what i plan to do is to refuse to take the knee or be silent. because when an autocracy begins to form, it is really important that the press, to the extent it can, continue to speak. continue to inform people about what is happening, and to give you the means and the strategies to resist and survive. it is important that civil society and the arts continue to speak, that individual citizens remain vigilant and not back down or cower in fear. so that is what i and the team here are going to do. we will make sure you stay informed, forewarned, and equipped to survive.
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whatever he and his maga cronies try to do to the people in this country. joining me now is journalist and immigrant rights activist antonio jose vargas, founder and president of define america, and deputy director of the aclu immigrant's rights project. thank you both for being here. i'm going to start with you, my friend, dear, dear friend, and just get you to download for me how you are doing, how you are protecting yourself as an undocumented immigrant in this country, and how your friends and others in your community are protecting and caring for themselves. >> thank you, joy. you know, we have been -- we were non-stop texting on election night. >> we were. >> -- when this was happening, we were. i have to say people are really terrified. for my grandmother, who did not sleep on election night, 87-year-old naturalized american
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citizen from the philippines, and crying, calling me, asking me what was going to happen to students. i'm a trustee of the california state university system. we have an estimated 10,000 undocumented students in our system, to undocumented people that have known now for the past 13 years are here in america. the fear is more than palpable. the question now is, and i was texting you too, i heard from my choir teacher, mrs. denny, she literally texted me, how do i protect my students now, jose? what do i do? and i wanted to make sure i say that, because i can only imagine how many teachers, employers, co-workers, neighbors who are neighbors to undocumented immigrants across the country, what that conversation is like, how are you going to protect your people? because mind you, undocumented immigrants, we did not vote, because we cannot vote, no
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matter how many lies elon musk and trump say, i've never voted, and i've been here 37 years. we were on the menu this election but couldn't order. now our destiny is tied to what kind of risk american citizens, from teachers to co-workers to employers, to church people who go to the same church, what kind of risk are you going to take when the mass deportations start? i was watching msnbc last night, and lawrence o'donnell asked the governor of massachusetts outright, what are you going to do if the massachusetts state police get contacted and say, we'll do mass deportation. and the governor, governor healey said, absolutely not. as a proud californian, governor newsom is getting together with the legislation to figure out. we have 2.2 million undocumented people in the state of california, from nurses,
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doctors, farmers, across. what are we going to do state by state to make sure that our people, and this to me by the way is a perfect opportunity, you know when people use the word "citizen" a lot? i think citizenship is what's at stake here. for all of us who are not citizens, because we were not born here or we don't have legal status in many ways, we are exhibiting citizenship, because we're still here, and we want to be a part of this country, right? and that this is our home. >> let's answer that question, what can people do, what should people be doing? because among the promises that donald trump made to his voting base, which includes 54% of latino men, and many of them are in mixed status families, so they're going to find this out, maybe that's not what they voted for but what they will get, what can people do to protect them sels? 11.7 million undocumented
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immigrants, they're talking about denaturalizing people, taking people's green cards away, and what should they do? >> yeah, we need information on the ground. we are going to do what we can do in the courts, and that's going to be like what we did in the first time, we'll be in court attacking policies. but people need to, one, be on the streets lawfully, of course, lawfully protesting, nonviolently. but protesting policies. i think you're hitting on a real point, both in the communities, people need to be in contact with whoever is on the ground, who can reach other people, whether that's churches or legal organizations -- >> you mean like have an emergency contact, >> exactly. the other thing you hit on in the beginning, which is critical to me, sometimes people despair because the problem seems so big and they say what can i do to fix that big problem? so they just receded to the
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back. what i always tell people, especially young people, young lawyers, do anything. one little thing, if it's tutoring an immigrant, just being nice. a lawyer can take one little case. everyone needs to just do something and not despair. i think that was critical what you hit on. we just need to roll up our sleeves and work at it. we're not going to solve everything. we're not going to accomplish everything. but we need to take those steps. >> despair is not an option. i'm saying that as a black person. our whole existence is been fighting against a system that didn't want us here. so let me ask you some pragmatic things. should people start carrying their green card everywhere they go? >> that's a good question. what we are worried about is there's going to start to be enforcement in the interior, no longer just at the border, and we're thinking we'll see summary removal it is people can't prove immediately. so i think we are probably going
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to be telling people to have documentation with you. especially if you have recently arrived and you look like you may have recently arrived, we're going to fight those policies, but that takes a while. we don't know that we're going to win. so i agree, we'll decide exactly what we're going to tell people, what documentation. but i think that may be one of the steps people need to take. >> if you have employees, if you have a small business and you don't know the status of your employees, should you ask them? it might frighten them, but should construction companies be asking? >> i apologize, that gets into legal answers, but your point about having emergency contacts, and we are going to try and have as many groups on the ground connect to us and other organizations so the minute something is happening in their community, they're on the phone say thing is happening and we can get people there. >> how do people get in touch
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with the acl snurvegs >> go to our website and email or call our main number in new york and they'll connect us. >> having a plan and having support, does that feel like a start? >> absolutely. this ask now a time to get your people. your teachers, your mentors, your co-workers. i love what lee's saying, let's get really specific. what is going to happen in schools and the place of work? and joy, both as journalists, now is the time i'm calling on fellow journalists out there. when steven miller starts talking about illegal aliens, our job is to say these are human beings we're talking about. these are people part of our society. objectivity here is a privilege. it is our job to document what is happening at this historic moment. >> that is what we're going to be doing. if they are kicking in doors, they will will doing it with the lights of "the reidout" cameras
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bright in their face. anything they're going to do, they're going to do it in front of us and we'll document everything. you'll not be able to sneak people out of the country without us telling on you. jose, lee, thank you very much. be safe out there. coming up, it may feel dark right now, but this is not the first time we have had to fight for our rights in this country and won't be the last. we'll talk to an expert on what that fight will look like, next. . ( ♪♪ ) asthma. it can make you miss out on those epic hikes with friends. step back out there with fasenra. fasenra is an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. ( ♪♪ ) fasenra helps prevent asthma attacks. most patients did not have an attack in the first year. fasenra is proven to help you breathe better so you can get back to doing day-to-day activities. and fasenra helps lower the use of oral steroids.
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okay. days like this, you sometimes struggle to make sense of the world we live in, and where we are heading. i know for many of you, it is hard. you feel broken, demoralized and ready to give up. but, we are not the first to feel that way, and we will not be the last. in our darkest hour, i find it helps to look to the people who came before us and continue to fight. i think about sitting bull. famous sioux chief who refused to accept the u.s. government's encroachment on their land and defeated george armstrong custer's 7th kaflry. i think about alice paul, who was arrested, imprisoned, beaten as force fed for demanding support of the suffrage amendment and getting it.
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and for black america, this feeling is a reality we have lived with for century. it has been our resistance in the face of opposition that has pushed our society further into a more just place. the examples are endless. it's rosa parks and reverend dr. martin luther king, jr., who led a boycott of the bus system and got the supreme court to deseg gate those buses. >> you have a false sense of inferiority. as long as you let the white man push you, he has a false sense of superiority. >> it is the hundreds of kids from maryland to tennessee and north carolina who sat at lunch counters, demanding service while white people shouted at them, chucked salt at them and poured drinks on them. it's ruby bridges, escorted into a louisiana classroom as a 6-year-old kid, as an angry mob
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of white adults shouted at her. it's the men and women led by a young john lewis who were beaten for demanding the right to vote. they promise to do whatever it would take. >> we intend to march if it takes us a lifetime. >> we intend to marsh to montgomery even if it takes a lifetime. throughout some of these fights, the naacp legal defense fund has been there, but it's those small, peaceful acts of resistance from people like you and me who have made this world a much more just place. we don't just owe it to them and our kids to do the same, we owe it to ourselves. during troushled times, dr. king wrote, our survival depends on our ability to stay awake and mace the challenge of change. maybe his words can serve as a
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guide. joining me now is janay nelson, council for the naacp legal defense fund. janay, my friend, so good to see you. i wonder how you're feeling in this moment and how you and your staff are gathering your resources, your emotional, mental, and obviously legal resources in this moment. >> oh, joy, so good to be with you on this day, and this week. my staff and i met today, in fact, and we gathered to talk about what this moment means for us and our place in this history. and we are fortunate enough to be able to draw on a well of experience. nearly 85 years worth of experience from thurgood marshall to black greenberg, to julius chambers and elaine jones and john payton. we have had leaders supported by an incredible staff throughout those eight plus decades, that
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have helped transform this country. and we have never been in a posture where it's been easy, where the road has been paved with yeses. that's just not what racial justice work is. and while this is an incredibly difficult moment, not just for us as an institution, but most importantly for the communities that we serve, we know that we have the intellectual resources, we have the grit and resilience and fortitude to meet this moment with equal force and then some. >> amen to that. and i have no doubt about that at all. you know, i have to say this, i think black women in this moment are feeling kind of alone, you know, voting overwhelmingly for vice president harris and watching this woman be utterly rejected by so many pockets of the population. and so black women are feel some kind of way in this moment. and i think increasingly also because the targeting, we're
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seeing people getting these text messages about report for slavery and that sort of thing in their phones, report to pick cotton, that kind of thing. but people like steven miller are going to be empowered to finish the work they started, trying to end the $2 billion settlement to farmers, to try to go after maybe hvcus because they serve black people. we know there's been attacks on the howard university school of medicine. so what are the protections available to the legal protections available to black businesses who are trying to get federal grants to black universities, even from attorneys who the steven millers of the world would like to end. >> yeah, there are many protections that are still available and enforceable and we will be using with our colleagues in the field. let me explain something how we, as black women, are feeling in this moment.
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these election results lay bare what we already know, and that is that there is such an addiction and allegiance to white supremacy and patriarchy in this country that it forced a majority of americans to vote in ways that abandoned the project of this multiracial democracy. and it is a force that is so deeply entrenched in the roots of this country and courses through the veins of its people, even without them fully realizing and recognizing it. but the election results tell a very sorted story about where we are as a country. but there are some highlights. while there were nearly 73 million people who abandoned the project of multiracial democracy, there are about 68 million who voted for it. and then there's that 1/3 of the electorate that set it out, and now they need to figure out what
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future they want for this country. do they want a country where we can continue to enforce civil rights laws and evolve us to a more inclusive, thriving, prosperous multiracial democracy, or one that is mired in division? so we still have many tools at our disposal to use. we knew that regardless of the outcome of this election that the conservative extremists that have been attacking our democracy would exist on the other side. the question now is, do we have a partner in federal government to combat that? and we don't. we don't. the federal government is now going to be populated with these extremists. so it's up to the american people, and it's up to our courts, our judiciary, to step into this breach and determine how far we are going to allow this country to devolve. we are prepared to defend it to
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the end, and to see this as a moment of potential transformation. we are now looking at stark choices, and i think that this is going to be the wakeup call and the alarm that we've been sounding for a long time, but too many have ignored. >> well, it's a heck of a wakeup call. it's a loud alarm, one of those that you want to change the tone of it. but you know what? as long as we're awake, we're going to stay woke. janay, thank you very much. we will be following your work. thank you. coming up, the lessons to be learned from how the trump campaign functioned and was successful. was successful a bend with a bump in your erection might be painful, embarassing, difficult to talk about, and could be peyronie's disease or pd, a real medical condition that urologists can diagnose and have been treating for more than 8 years with xiaflex®, the only fda-approved nonsurgical treatment
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>> now, you may have no interest for your forensic analysis of the harris campaign, but there is one thing the democratic party should listen to and learn about campaigning in the modern era. in this election, democrats relied on television and ads on radio, door knocking and phone banking, the traditional tactics. republicans, however, didn't really have a campaign. the trump campaign functionally didn't exist, at least not on the ground. but ha did exist is a massive media ecosystem, pumping into the heart of maga, run by the
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internet bros elon musk and charlie kirk of turning point usa, which this year handled much of the get out the vote operations for trump's campaign. only for trump to close it out with celebrity podcast host joe rogan in what would become rogan's most watched episodes in more than a decade. but behind the curtain is disinformation king elon musk, who helped to elect trump and enrich himself by using x, twitter, to push out his preferred candidate, frequently with misinformation. joining me now is founder and ceo of on x impact. she also served as an adviser to stacey abrams. thank you so much for being here. i want to play you a sound bite really quick. this is victor orbon of hungary, what he said in 2022 -- no, i'm going to read it.
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he said that the path to power required having their own media outlets, calling for shows like tucker carlson's to be broad cast 24/7 in hungary. the prime minister and his allies have effective control of most media, including state tv. he said have your own media, the only way to point out the insanity of the progressive left. he said the problem that the western media has adjusted to the leftist viewpoint. those who in universities have a leftist principle and portrayed the media being dominated by democrats who are been served by cnn, "the new york times" and others. so he said get your own media. they did that. talk about how that was used in this campaign. >> absolutely, joy. thank you so much for having me. you know, we know the use of disinformation to impact civic engagement, especially black audiences, is not new in our
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democracy. we know that throughout the cycle, on x impact has evidence that black voters have been targeted targeteds of disinformation. but we must reckon with the fact that the democratic party did not do a better job of engaging and turning out our voters. where they are actually are, not where we think they are or where they were ten years ago. that is in nontraditional, online information ecosystems. to your point, conservatives have an online ecosystem that they have created. what we're looking at right now is saturated disinformation becoming a culture, and instead of fighting individual lies, we are faced with a situation where we're fighting a new culture,
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and we're doing that using old and tired and sorry political playbooks that are not working and reaching voters where they are. >> one might call it grooming. you're seeing you have the elon musk weaponized x or twitter and turned it into a faucet for disinformation, and then you have all these dude bro podcasts, and some of the biggest ones. 6.6 million views to some called impulsive with logan paul. 14 million views on august 20th. the shawn ryan show, the dan bongino show, joe rogan podcasts. these podcasts have big audiences, and they're not visible to the kind of media that the democrats are buying. we love watching cable, but that's not where a lot of young men are getting their information, and they're being radicalized online and through
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this sort of man-o-sphere, no? >> i think that is -- we are definitely seeing that happen, and if i can be honest, i think that we are faced, you know, with a consultant class in the democratic party ecosystem that is resistant to innovation, that is relying on suspect models and outdated strategies like broad cast tv to reach voters. where on x impact, we did a poll and found that young black voters are two to five times more likely to get their news and information from social media than any type of tv news. so if your strategy is relying on tv news to reach young audiences, you're fundamentally failing and fundamentally failing to realize what new culture means, what online media is, what an actual digital strategy entails. i want to also give credit to
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harris, because one of the things that we did see with the change in a ticket in this campaign cycle was an actual investment and engagement with nontraditional media sources, and with black and brown media and black and brown online digital media. we saw such a void in these spaces for so long this year. it wasn't until the campaign started to engage with this nontraditional media that we saw some of that void being filled. but with only 107 days, there's only so much that you can do. >> it's not a lot of time, and you have to engage the socials, because that's a lot of people. you would be shocked how many people get their news from tiktok. thank you so much. coming up, tuesday night wasn't all bad news. there were many historic achievements that show that at least there is some light at the end of the tunnel. you know we like to bring you a light, hand is next. o bring you light, hand is next.
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jersey senator elect andy kim. he'll be the first korean american to serve in the senate. with black women poised to become a major target, especially given trump's attacks on diversity, two black women made history. angela alsobrooks was the first black senator to represent maryland. and lisa blunt-rochester will be the first woman and black senator from delaware. that meaning in the year of our lord 20 and 25, for the first time in the senate's 236-year history, two black women will serve at the same time. there will also be some democratic history makers joining the u.s. house of representatives. texas elected julie johnson to become the first openly lbgtq percent to congress from both texas and the entire south. and sarah mcbride will represent delaware as the first openly transgender member of congress. they will be joined in the house by another historic figure who
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electing a convicted criminal who would, who will be the oldest president ever to take office was not the only historic part of this election. no, no, far from it. there were many historic firsts from democrats on the state and
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national levels. among them is one who became only the fourth black member to be elected to congress from alabama by winning a competitive and expensive race for the second district. it's a seat which in 2023, the supreme court upheld an early ruling finding that the statd's old district map likely discriminated against black voters. and he joins me now. congressman elect, first of all, congratulations. >> thank you. thank you. thank you for having us tonight. >> i remember going actually down to alabama to selma and doing events, covering your case. it was a pretty famous case. went all the way to the supreme court. talk about for you and for your constituents, what does it mean this second district now exists and that you, among a very few black people ever to represent that part of the south are going to be going to congress. >> look, i think this district, its existence, the process by
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which we got here, is a somewhat reminiscent of what this district in particular, the city of montgomery, has meant to this nation. without montgomery, which i personally believe is the single most important city in america of the 20th century because of the movement born out of it, without montgomery, there is no civil rights movement. there is no voting rights act which gave us the vessel through which this lawsuit that created this district was brought. so, you know, the rich history of voting rights here, the rich history in civil rights here, something that means a lot to the people of this district and to myself. so having this opportunity here in 2024 to again fight battles through a vehicle that was secured 60 years ago is something that's very, very special. means a lot to people here. >> what do you want to do in congress? >> we have a significant healthcare crisis in the state. it's beyond just insurance.
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we're one of the few states that hasn't expanded medicaid. we've had four hospitals close in this district. we don't have pediatricians in half of the counties in this district. so it's a significant issue here in a state where for all intents and purposes, have the lowest life expectancy in america. it's significant. we have one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the country. infant mortality rates in the country and we have too many people here that fit within that coverage gap of medicaid currently. so we need to expand it. we need to get hospitals open here because that's an economic engine for many communities. not just in the form of employment, but being able to recruit companies and people and industry that wants to reside. it's tough to do that without a hospital. >> you're young brother, going to congress. you're a young man. how do we get more, number one, younger people to vote? if young people only had been
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the only ones voting, kamala harris would be president-elect right now. right? young people chose her. it was older people who didn't. but they came in not in nearly enough numbers. in your view, how do we inspire younger people the vote and also, the parties and you know, the smart folks in washington, to invest in the south? >> on the first one with younger voters, i think we have to shift away between placing buckets of voters, or placing voters in specific issue buckets. and only going at them regardless of their age in those issue buckets. we can 't just talk to certain communities about voting rights or criminal justice reform. or immigration. because every other issue affects everyone of any race. economic issues affect you whether you're black, white, latino, asian. so does social security, healthcare.
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so we have to be very intentional about that and talking to young people about their future. having them understand that medicare and social security is not just something that affects people that are 65 or approaching the age of eligibility. it ffects you. if it's not there for your parents or it's limited, guess who that responsibility of financial assistance falls on? you. i think we have to be very intentional about that message to groups and understanding that people are more than just these larger, broader issue buckets that play around national politics. >> yeah, well i suspect you're going to be one of the big stars of the freshman class of 2025, alabama congressman elect figures. congratulations and thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. tonight on all in. >> yesterday, i spoke

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