nor when they will be put into action. that could change the economic landscape to a certain degree and lead the fed towards different actions. jose, right now, trump's former treasury secretary told cnbc that trump will focus on tariffs, lower taxes and economic sanctions on countries like iran at least in the early going. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. see you tomorrow night on "nbc nightly news." for now, you can reach on social @jdbalart. watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the trump transition, take two, is well underway with plenty of buzz surrounding the top jobs and history being made with the

selection of susie wiles as the first woman to serve as white house chief of staff. kristin welker joins me after her exclusive conversation with the president-elect. a stunning attack on israeli soccer fans in the netherlands. authorities calling it a violent anti-semitic riot leaving five injured and dozens in custody. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president-elect donald trump is making history again with his first major decision following his resounding election victory, naming his campaign co-chair, susie wiles as his white house chief of staff. she will be the first woman to hold the top office in the west wing. trump along with wiles' co-chair

praised the strategist during the victory celebration at mar-a-lago. >> let me also express my tremendous appreciation for susie and chris. the job you did! come, susie, come here. chris, come here. susie likes to stay in the back. the ice maiden. chris, come here. susie likes to stay in the background. >> this team that we had, the best team. of course, even my boss, susie wiles, the best. thank you. >> in an nbc news exclusive, mr. trump told kristin welker, quote, there's no price tag for his mass deportation plan caming it a mandate from the voters.

that mandate continues to gain strength as nbc news now projects donald trump has won nevada. that came overnight. 88% of trump voters want undocumented immigrants to be deported. as we still await a call from arizona, the president-elect is on track to sweep all seven swing states. democrats insist they still have a shot at taking control of the house, as two dozen races are still not decided. we begin with kristin welker, vaughn hillyard, and jeremy peters. you spoke with president-elect trump by phone exclusively yesterday about that mass deportation plan, the policy he announced. he made a lot of news. told you he has been on the phone with world leaders who have been burning up the phone lines overseas. >> he said the calls keep coming

in. he said he has spoke within netanyahu, not a surprise. the leaders of france, italy, eu. he has spoken to president zelenskyy at the time of the call yesterday. he had not spoken with president putin then. he has said he wants to end the war in ukraine within 24 hours. hasn't told us details. that suggests ukraine would give up territory. highly controversial for some. putin did congratulate him publicly. i did push for details on his mass deportation plan. what would it look like? how much would it cost? as you say, he said, there's no price tag. we have no choice. he did really lean into the idea that he believes he has a mandate and signalled this is something he would start to tackle on day one. >> so interesting -- and praising him lavishly, putin knows full well that as many foreign leaders do, there is a common thought that the way to

his heart is to praise him, that he does like that a lot. vaughn hillyard, susie wiles, you know her well. she's not a household name. some say she would help restrain trump in some ways to put some regulation, some guardrails on the oval office, which was as we know from what happened before, during and after january 6, there was an open door and a lot of people got in without the chief of staff knowing. what do we know about how she manages him and her team? one of the little known facts i did not know, she's the daughter of a gridiron great, pat summerall. someone i have watched for decades and decades. >> reporter: right. she's sort of a quiet, behind the scenes figure. she doesn't do really public

speaking. she doesn't do tv interviews. when donald trump brought her to the microphone, or attempted to during his victory speech on tuesday night, she came close to the podium and then quickly moved back away behind other campaign staff. for susie wiles, she's respected among those more traditional conservatives who feel like she is still an open line of communication into this incoming white house administration. somebody who has a long history in republican politics as an operator. also, she's somebody that did not -- this is important -- over the last two years did not block access to donald trump for the likes of people like steve bannon or stephen miller. she allowed it to be a big tent access to donald trump. that is where the more kind of strict conservatives, they were individuals who were pleased having her in that position, because they felt like they were still able to converse and have access and conversations with

donald trump and be able to influence him how they saw fit. this is really for them, the exact person they wanted to see fill the chief of staff role. donald trump, he has somebody who is kind of the one person that can sit down and speak directly with him about potentially ways in which could be detractors, moments of -- statements where he makes about certain things where she's the one person that can keep him in line, if you will. of course, he went through four chiefs of staff in his first white house. this, for, didn't, is somebody who he trusted and got him own the finish line to this historic victory. >> jeremy, donald trump wants a say in the fed's rate policy. sidelining jeremy powell -- jerome powell, who he appointed in 2017. chair powell was asked about that thursday at a news conference.

>> some of the president-elect's advisors have suggested you should resign. if he asked you to leave, would you go? >> no. >> do you think that legally you are not required to leave? >> no. >> do you believe the president has the power to fire or demote you? has the fed determined the legality of a president demoting at will any of the other governors with leadership positions? >> not permitted under the law. >> it's not permitted under the federal reserve act of 1913, under wilson. the fed is an independent institution that's reassuring to global markets and domestic markets. there's no difference between the two. let's talk about that, because when donald trump came in, he got rid of janet yellen and put jerome powell in and gave him holy hell for the first two years. how do you see him interfering or respecting the fed's

independence? >> i don't think donald trump really respects anybody's independence, even an institution that's legally walled off from him like the fed. i think there are two aspects to what trump can do with the fed. there's the public badgering and the complaining about interest rates, which he has done in the past, and he continues to do. and then there is the private stuff he can do behind the scenes to try to influence the fed and its other members. let's not forget, andrea, that the term of jerome powell is up in may of 2026. i don't know that trump is going to really have much room to do much to pressure jerome powell because of his term is almost at an end. trump will be able to pick a new person to replace jerome powell if he chooses to do so. there are also many other -- a

few other jobs on the board that trump will be able to fill. there are all sorts of ways he can work around powell if he chooses. i think a lot of it, like with most things trump, is bluster. he likes to complain. he likes to project his power and authority, that he is in charge here. we can expect him to do that. in terms of firing people, as you point out, he can't do that. he tried or at least talked about doing it when he was president the first time. his aides came to the conclusion it wasn't possible. so i think that, at least, is off the table. >> you have big guests on "meet the press" we want to talk about. >> i do. we have senator barrasso coming up. we also have senator sanders.

senator sanders, notable because he basically released a statement scathing to the democrats. >> as the democrats are not only in disarray, not only the blame game, but they don't know what direction to take. barrasso is going to be in a leadership position. he staked that out. there was a vote on that already. what is yet to be determined is the brewing fight over the leadership, not only now between the two johns but now with rick scott is getting into the mitch from florida after a 13-point win there. >> that's right. john cornyn, rick scott, john thune. we will talk with senator barrasso. as well as republicans will have control of the senate. in my conversation with president-elect trump, he touted that and said he was very proud of the fact that he believes he played a role in a lot of these senate seats flipping. >> let's clean that up quickly. as you have been reporting from

your exclusive conversation, he is feeling very empowered by that. we now -- we know in arizona, it's not called yet by nbc. in addition, bob casey in pennsylvania is not called yet. this is possibly -- we're not calling it. others may have. it's heading possibly into recount territory. dave mccormick, the republican has declared himself today. but that's still not officially -- that could be a recount. >> it's a fascinating situation in pennsylvania. we are watching it closely. obviously, it's one of the big races. senator bob casey was looking for a fourth term. we will watch to see if it does head into recount territory. senator barrasso obviously has a lot to talk about in the program. >> it could be -- it's 53. it could be -- we, it could be 54 republicans.

>> that's right. we don't know what their margin is going to be. but they have flipped enough seats to take control. >> we look forward to all of that on sunday. thanks for being with us. thanks, of course, to jeremy as well and to vaughn. israel sending planes to amsterdam to evacuate israeli soccer fans after an anti-semitic riot. andrea mitchell is back in 90 seconds. you are watching msnbc. ah...family time. of course it's not the same if you can't enjoy your favorite foods. but getting your teeth fixed at a price you can afford? don't really see that one on the table. here's something to chew on. aspen dental has custom made solutions with flexible finance options to make implants and dentures more affordable for you. with 0 dollars down plus 0% interest, if paid in full in 18 months. helping people like rose

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israel has sent planes to the netherlands to bring home stranded israeli soccer fans. hundreds were attacked in what the israeli and dutch governments are calling anti-semitic rioting in amsterdam. five were hospitalized, dozens arrested. fans of a tel aviv soccer club were chased by a pro-palestinian crowd, according to the government. attackers sought out supporters and attacked them. they were chanting anti-arab words. president biden's special envoy tweeting she's horrified and noting that this weekend is the anniversary of kristallnacht. joining me is meagan fitzgerald

from amsterdam. this is so unexpected. what precipitated these attacks? we know there's a lot of european anger against israel because of what's been going on in gaza. >> reporter: absolutely. according to the police chief here, the tension in the city has been rising leading up to the match we saw last night. in the words of the mayor, all hell broke through after the match. we have been speaking with eyewitnesses, israeli fans who were here for that game throughout the day here. they said going to the match, they felt safe. leaving the match, they felt safe. there was a large police presence around the stadium. there was a train that took people from the stadium back into the city here, the center city of town in amsterdam. once he was on that train, he started to see people looking at him and things felt a little bit tense on the train.

it was when they got off the train in the center of the city when things really started to kick off, when they were confronted by, as he said, a mob of people. i want you to listen to a little bit of what this fan had to say. >> we went to a soccer match. at the end, all of the away fans got on trains to the center of the city. when we got off the trains, we got out of the station, and a big amount -- a couple hundreds of people waited there and tried to attack us. >> reporter: you know, this fan went on to say that people were just sprinting. they were sprinting down canals and alleys and streets, running into hotels for their own safety. there was fear here. we also -- it's important to note here, that we have seen

videos circulating on social media that nbc news confirmed that shows, as you mentioned, israeli fans chanting death to arabs as they go down the escalator of the train station there. we have seen palestinian flags being torn down from a building. this is still a very active and ongoing investigation. you have a group of people who are fearful of being in the city right now and are trying to do what they can to get out. a guy we talked to within an hour agomentioned he wasn't able to get on the flights that the israeli government sent, but he is trying to get home tomorrow. >> meagan fitzgerald in amsterdam, thank you. back to the election at home. ritchie tores is blaming his wing for donald trump's victory. he has no greater friend than the far left which alienated

latinos, blacks, asians and jews from the democratic party with absurdiies like de-fund the police or from the river to the sit or latin x. he joins me now. thank you. congratulations on your re-election. what do you mean by donald trump has no greater friend than the far left? >> the republicans are masterful at weaponizing the words of the far left against the democratic party. the losses among voters of color, particularly latinos, is nothing short of a catastrophe for the party. take star county. 60% of the county voted for hillary clinton in 2016. in 2024, donald trump won nearly 60% of the vote. he won latino men by more than 10 percentage points. they are reliably blue states.

donald trump came within five points of winning new jersey. 12 points of winning new york. he won 30% of the vote in the bronx, one of the most democratic and latino counties in america. if that's not a wake-up call, then i'm not sure what would be. we ignore those wake-up calls that at our own peril. >> has the party woken up? there's the blame game. a lot of people saying president biden shouldn't have run or he waited too long to get out. there's all of that. the consultant class needs to be replaced. is there really deep thinking -- is there deep thinking inside the democratic party after such a disastrous election? >> i cannot speak for the party. i can only speak for myself. we have to seriously reckon with the results of the election. keep in mind, the trends that are unfolding in 2024 long predate the election. back in 2020, donald trump made

historic inroads among voters of color during the public backlash against the de-fund the police movement. he built on those in the 2024 election. if the goal is to win elections on twitter, you should embrace movements like de-fund the police. if it's to win elections in the real world where it matters, then you have to appeal to working class people of color who historically have been the base of the democratic party. >> who is the leader of the democratic party right now? >> for me, the most important leader for the democratic party is hakeem jeffries. new york has a ray of light in an otherwise despairing election. under the leadership of hakeem, there was a transformation of the new york state democratic party. we won back almost all the congressional seats that we had lost in 2022. we won on the strength of strong candidates.

the common thread among them is every single one of them ran from the central left. the road to the speakership, the road to the presidency runs not through the far left, it runs through the central left, which is where most of the country is. >> what do you think of donald trump's plan for mass deportations? he repeated that to kristin welker in an exclusive telephone interview yesterday, saying there's no choice but to move forward, no matter what the price tag. >> i live in fear of what donald trump is going to do to our country. it seems to me he feels more emboldened than he has ever been. i predict the second trump presidency will be more vindictive than the first. the difference between then and now is that he has absolute immunity. he is free to weaponize government against his political rivals. he is free to order prosecutions of political rivals. the supreme court says he enjoys immunity. i worry that he is going to

appoint more justices in the mold of clarence thomas and sam alito who will endanger the fundamental freedoms we enjoy as americans. i fear a second trump presidency as much as anyone else. >> you represent such a diverse district. such a melting pot. i know it well. i was born there. what do you make of the anti-semitic attacks against israeli soccer fans in amsterdam and the anti-arab chants bit israelis? >> i was appalled by what i saw in amsterdam. i never thought in my wildest nightmares that i would see this against jews in the 21st century. it makes me sick to my stomach. what is unfolding in amsterdam did not happen in a vacuum. it's happening in an age of amplified anti-semitism. since october 7th, we have seen volcanic eruptions of anti-semitism on college campuses and social media.

we have seen people utter phrases like globalize the intifada, an open invitation to violence against jews. i'm concerned if we as a country do not stand up and speak against anti-semitism, then the nightmare could come here in the united states. we have to act with more urgency. >> congressman, as always, thank you very much. good to see you. we have breaking news now from washington. special counsel jack smith has now informed federal judge chutkan that his office will decide by december 2nd how to proceed with the federal election interference case against president-elect donald trump. joining me now is lisa rubin. this is the next step in winding down. >> that's reporting from our nbc

news colleagues that jack smith and his colleagues would look to wind these cases down one way or another. they are signaling to judge chutkan we are in unprecedented circumstances and they need until december 2nd to evaluate how they are going to move forward and will send her a status report on that date. in the interim, they are asking her, please suspend all of the pretrial deadlines that we and the trump team have between now and then. we don't want any more briefing on the existing motions. we want some time to think. it may be that what they are going to do with that time is prepare a more traditional special counsel report to signal the end of their investigation but also reveal to the american public perhaps even more than we have seen. for example, that 175-plus-page immunity brief they submitted earlier this fall. >> lisa, at this stage, we don't know about the other federal case. of course, the very complicated

situation in florida where the judge has ruled against a special prosecutor. there's a justice department imperative, really, from their perspective, to appeal that decision but not proceed with the case itself on the classified documents. >> right. that appeal is fully briefed right now. it's in the hands of the 11th circuit, one of the federal courts of appeal. as it stands right now, that complaint or that indictment has been dismissed. it may be jack smith's office says, we're going to withdraw our appeal. they don't want to make bad law. they don't want a situation in which a federal court of appeals says that the statutes and regulations underlying the appointment of special counsel are not constitutional. that's what judge cannon in florida had found earlier this year. >> lisa rubin, as always, thanks for jumping in there. the fbi is investigating racist texts sent to black

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dozens of black americans across the country say they have received racist text messages from unknown numbers since wednesday. the texts saying that they had been, quote, selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation. the fbi says it's in contact with the department of justice over these messages. nbc news daily anchor spoke to one of the women who received that text. >> this woman was at home with her kids wednesday when she got a text from a number she didn't recognize. >> it was this odd, ominous feeling basically saying, hello, you have been selected to be a slave on a plantation. you are scheduled to get picked up on -- at 12:00 a.m. november 13th. >> how did it feel when you got

that? >> well, i was immediately disturbed. >> she's not alone. social media sites have been flooded with people from new york to florida who say they have gotten these racist messages. freeman and others believe the texts may have been sparked by the political climate. >> i think this is intentional to scare people of color, black people into a reality that we don't want to go back to. >> the wording differs. the theme is consistent. telling recipients they have been selected to pick cotton. all of the people nbc news spoke to who got these messages are black. several universities confirmed their students have reported receiving the texts. clemson says they came from numbers associated with online spoofing sites. it remains unclear who is behind the messages. textnow says at least one of the its accounted may be involved. we do not tolerate or condone

the use of our service to send harassing or spam messages. they shut down the accounts and are working with authorities. for recipients, the digital hate is fuelling her real world concerns. >> i am overwhelmed with anxiety and fear about how i am going to help my children make sense of the world that they have to navigate as black children. >> this is the most disturbing story. this is just horrific. >> it truly is. so many people i spoke with broke down in tears. there's no confirmed number yet from the fbi. nbc news has spoken with dozens. the fbi is imploring the public, if you received this, it's not enough to just report it. report it to your local attorneys general office. they try to figure out where they are coming from. >> what would be illegal? is it a hate crime? is it threatening?

>> absolutely. that's the question right now. the fbi and fcc are trying to narrow down the source. the messages are incredibly precise. most of the people we have spoken with are black. it's not clear if they are investigating these as hate crimes. many people are saying they are fearing for their safety. >> thank you so much. really disturbing. more breaking news from the justice department. the fbi has officially filed murder for hire charges against a member of iran's revolutionary guard and two others in the thwarted iranian plot to assassinate donald trump. ken dilanian joins us. ken, i guess it's hard to imagine them actually arresting this person or persons. this opens up other possibilities. >> yeah. they have two men in custody who they say were the american operatives hired by this iranian intelligence operative, who is in iran, they say.

what's interesting about this whole thing is that the reason they know that this plot was targeting donald trump is because the iranian operative engaged in voluntary telephone interviews with the fbi from iran and explained the plot. he was trying to get a reduced sentence for another unnamed defendant in prison in the united states. this is how they know this was a murder for hire plot directed at donald trump. these people -- this group was targeting a prominent iranian american journalist who has been the subject of previous murder for hire plots in new york city. now these two men are in custody and charged with murder for hire and related charges. this iranian operative is in iran and out of reach of the u.s. justice system. it's another striking example of what the u.s. government says are ongoing plots sponsored by the iranian government to target american officials and former officials in connection with donald trump's ordering an

operation to kill an iranian general. not only donald trump, but many of the national security officials who were involved in that operation now have around the clock security at their homes and other places in connection with these very dangerous plots. >> and have for years and years. do we have any other options? let's say this person or persons leave iran. do we get interpol involved? >> the fbi are always watching. any time a person travels, goes on vacation, to a place they think they might be safe. another question this raises is, what will the u.s. government response be to this rogue bow -- behavior by iran? there have been people in the foreign policy community who

have been calling on the u.s. to become tougher in response to these provocations by iran. now we have president-elect trump who has promised to escalate maximum pressure on iran. this adds fuel to the fire in this tense relationship. >> praised netanyahu for some of the assassinations. haniyeh, the so-called political leader. ken dilanian, thank you so much. >> you bet. we are taking a deep dive into the republican coalition. democrats argue about whether they can rebuild and when. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. o? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye: too much tear evaporation. for relief that's ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪

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in nevada, the race was called for donald trump overnight with the state's large latino population becoming part of a trend in his winning coalition.

david noriega spoke to a family in las vegas, a working class immigrant family with major economic concerns and close relatives who are not documented. >> i'm more happy than upset. because donald trump is going to help the country with the economy. >> initially, i did not agree with him. then i started seeing that he was not afraid to speak his mind. he was not scared to say what he felt, regardless of what people would say. i respect that about him. >> reporter: when you hear trump promise mass deportations, do you worry? >> yes and no. the ones i know, they are doing good. they are not breaking any laws. >> i believe he is going to start deporting all the bad people. >> joining us now is michael steele.

and former democratic senator heidi highcamp. your reaction to that family's comments from nevada, a state donald trump won after losing in the last two cycles, and basically wanting a border crackdown? it's contrary to the democratic messaging. >> i don't think this should surprise anyone that the conservative bent for the hispanic population. what's interesting is donald trump has promised to deport anyone who is here undocumented. i think there is this sense, that won't happen. he told us what he is going to do. if he gets a report a dairy in minnesota employed 200 undocumented workers, are they

going to deport them? i think there's been a lot of this, that won't happen stuff. when somebody tells you who they are, believe them. we will live to see how it pans out. >> michael steele, democrats -- you are a former republican, but you have been watching this all unwind. democrats completely missed that donald trump's offensive comments, his threatening comments about liz cheney, about nancy pelosi, about others, his vulgarity, his profanity, none of that really had an impact on the way these people voted. they are majority and a big majority. >> they are. for the record, i'm still a republican. i know it annoys the heck out of them. i'm still in the camp.

>> i know a lot of you guys. >> they don't send me noticed for the meeting, but i'm still in the room. a lot of that has to do with the fact that the underlying messaging that was received by the family we just saw -- you listened to what they were saying -- what african american men and women heard was the economic populism. a lot of frustration around the idea for a generation now, people have felt more and more being left out, being left behind. they saw after 2009 the economic housing collapse where here in prince george's county, maryland, we are still recovering from that, trying to get our homes that we bought at that time back up to the averages in our -- in the dmv. there's this lagging affect of prosperity that everyone else

seems to be enjoying. wall street, other parts of the country. not in my community. trump tapped into that, cynically, i would argue, because as a billionaire who has shown his propensity to not really care that much for folks, you have to appreciate the cynicism that he brings to it. for them, it's someone who heard them, saw them finally. yeah, you could sit there and go on. he could go on and say all kinds of ugly things. they didn't translate that necessarily as more important than the fact that, i'm paying more for gas than i was under his leadership. i'm paying more for these other services and goods than i was under his leadership. i feel less economically secure now than i did then. the problem the democrats had was, they had all this success from infrastructure to the chips

act, creating jobs and bringing jobs into communities, but it wasn't translating for folks who felt they were being left further and further behind. that's the challenge in this period that we are in now. how do they make that transition as a party to tap into that -- the positive side of populism where you talk about the worker and families and communities in a way which they see themselves. not the negative side where you blame others as trump has done with the immigrant community. for that family, you heard what they said. it was interesting, they are just going to go after the bad people. no, they're not. if there's an undocumented member sitting in that interview, you are on the list. that's what they don't get. that's the part that's going to be the eye-opening moment when it comes at 2:00 a.m. and it is i.c.e. saying, you need to come with us.

he has not committed a crime. he did. he is here illegally. >> heidi, there is an attitude against elites, college-educated versus non-educated. donald trump won -- he is poised, depending on arizona -- that's not done yet. he is poised to win all of the swing state and to have taken the -- broken down the blue wall. this is a realignment. the democrats don't know -- >> i'm not sure i agree with that. >> tell me where i'm wrong. >> i think that right away, let's look at the right track, wrong track numbers. michael knows this as somebody ho has done this work. this was a huge headwind for the democratic party. trump has now promised that he is going to fix all these

problems. your insurance will be less, gasoline less, groceries less. he has a big accountability problem coming. these things are really hard to manage, especially as we see more and more disasters. we see more and more the cost of insurance going up for middle class families. i don't know it's a realignment as much as a wake-up call to the democratic party that your message is not a message that resonates with working class people. it's ironic that the democratic party identifies itself as somebody who cares about little guy and invest in people, we will do better when we do that, let's bring everybody up. those people that we most think we are protecting have said, no. you do not speak for us. you do not speak about us. you don't understand us. whether this is the realignment, i think completely depends on how the democratic party reacts. if their reaction is, we should

have been more liberal, we should have opened up more borders -- that is the wrong reaction. let's see what happens. i think -- i don't think this is a realignment as much as what it is a continuation of the erosion that can be stopped, especially if donald trump has 100% of washington. he has big problems to fix in terms of the economy for working class people. let's see if it gets done. >> very quickly, you are a former senator. does the democratic leader have a leader right now? >> it's going to be interesting. obviously, the leaders of the senate and house will have a voice. i think the more important thing is for the party itself to begin to have a discussion about how we're going to be a 50-state party. i have been very active on getting more democratic attention to rural counties.

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on ukraine most immediately. >> there will be a lot of internal tension within the alliance, andrea and it will stem from two things. one is in cruised pressure from the trump administration for our european allies to increase their defense spending. they've made a lot of progress, by the way, since the invasion of ukraine, because they look at vladimir putin as a very real threat. but look for a lot of push from team trump to try to get that spending up even higher. secondly, your point, andrea, there will be tension about ukraine and the way forward. europe is still very strongly behind ukraine, whereas team trump has expressed a lot of skepticism, at least about american support to ukraine. that will be a source of tension within the alliance as well. and i think unfortunately for our friends in kyiv, they are in

for a more difficult time, getting what they need to continue to fight against vladimir putin. >> and let's talk about israel and netanyahu. because there are very few leaders as close to donald trump right now who want to be that bibi netanyahu. he's already altering policy. today he named a new ambassador to washington, who is very much a part of that conservative coalition. he was a setler. he was a close -- one of the chief of staff to netanyahu when netanyahu was finance minister. he's a rabbi, so he's part of the religious coalition in israel and replacing mike herzog, what was the very effect ambassador and brother of israel's herzog. and he's continuing and expanding his attacks on lebanon, despite pressure from the u.s. before the election, from this administration, to

pull back and, you know, stick to the southern border area where the weapons and hezbollah are stockpiled. >> i think bibi netanyahu is at this point very, very happy to see donald trump come back to the white house. because he feels he'll get very full-throated support from president trump. and in addition to all of the points you just made, quite correctly, andrea, i would add one more, netanyahu is so confident in that support that he just fired his defense minister, a man named galant, who i know quite well, a former general, a former head of the israeli defense forces who was, by all accounts, a moderating influence on netanyahu. netanyahu has now fired him and i think we'll continue to push very, very hard both in its gaza and up north against hezbollah. it pushes the hope of a cease-fire and the hope of a hostage release even further

away. >> and then there is china, of course, one of the most important relationships in the future. china has had a lot of bashing from donald trump, the threat of 60% tariffs, which would really be a trigger and a lot of aggressive moves by china now in the south china sea. >> that is a very good description of all of that challenge right now. the only ray of hope i could give that would mitigate against a rise in u.s.-chinese tensions would be that it is possible that donald trump is using the 60% tariff number for example as a negotiating tactic. come in high and hard against china, at least thus far in his rhetoric, and then perhaps calibrate it back, and you're showing some good photography now. i think that xi and trump

legitimately have reasonable chemistry together and that may be the way to unwind some of the tensions you described. last thing, andrea, i'm watching the philippines very closely here. people don't realize that the philippines are a treaty ally of the united states, just like all of our nato partners. so when we see china and the philippines nose to nose, warships, bow to bow in the south china sea over territorial dispute, that is a very concerning tension point. that could also increase the challenges ahead. >> yeah, and as you correctly point out, looking at those pictures early in the first trump years, president xi visited mar-a-lago, donald trump's grandchildren sang to them in -- to him in mandarin. so there were a lot of personal connections there. admiral, a lot to talk about next week, about who the new

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