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live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. breaking news, the fbi unveiling new charges linked to a murder plot targeting president-elect trump. the newly revealed details behind the month's long conspiracy and the country, the feds say, was behind it all coming up. and is jack smith ready to pull the plug. the special council telling a d.c. judge, he needs a few more weeks to game out the next steps in trump's january 6 case. but what then? plus, racist reminders of america's darkest days. disturbing texts about plantations and picking cotton. sent to black americans nationwide. so who is sending them and who is looking to do something about it. but we start with that breaking news. the fbi has charged three men in a plot to assassinate president-elect donald trump. one apparently linking it back to the iranian military. tom winter is nbc national law

enforcement and intelligence correspondent. this is a man who had two assassination attempts against him. now we're looking at this. what could you tell us? >> right. and so this appears to be part of an ongoing effort by iran to avenge the death of kassim soleimani. so this is an ongoing thing. there is a former trump administration officials that have around the clock security and what is interesting is the details here and the frankly continued commitment by iran to kill donald trump. this went down, farid shackir, workingith the iran revolutionary guard, he was here in the united states for a number of years, in 1994 he was convicted of robbery here in new york state. so during the time in principle, federal authorities alleged, he developed a network of

individuals that he could count on and rely on an the idea was to pay these individuals to carry out murder plots. there is a number of alleged -- this is the third time federal authorities have charged people with trying to kill her. she lives here in new york city. but during the course of the investigation, according to the criminal complaint, shackary, as last as five times, talking to them all fall and trying to get a reduction for somebody else who is in prison not named in this indictment or in this criminal complaint. so shackir is talking to the fbi and he said on october 7th, the-i rgc reached out and said we want to kill donald trump and we want to plan to kill donald trump and go after him and they said you have been spending a lot of money. approaching over six figures on the other murder-for-hire plots and this unnamed official, said,

money is not an object here. we want 20 get him. and they said, at wunt point, they guessed that we think donald trump is going to lose in the election, so we could put this plot floor effect after the election day because maybe the security for donald trump wouldn't be so high. so that is what is laid out in the criminal complaint. shackary, said i had no intention of putting together a plot. that was his claim to the fbi and the fbi is using the claim in the criminal complaint and in their discussion. two other individuals, both american citizens who have been charged in this. jonathan load hold and carlyle rivera and they're involved in the plot to surveil and a number of images and guns and wells that they have in the plot to kill the iranian -- >> what do we know about their background. >> they were both in the prison system and they have nexuses to the same time and location where's shackary did his time as well. so he developed a whole network during his time in jail in new

york state. these two individuals overlapped with him and they had communications back and forth and all sorts of items taken off of their icloud. and they're tied to the iranian american journalist, the third attempt on her life. the fbi in new york keenly aware of threats to her life. but it goes back to the second time this year that somebody who is told the fbi or charged with an attempt to kill donald trump. the first one was back in july of this year. no connection to the other two assassination attempts on donald trump. but that is a case charged in july of this year and now we have the new case which appears to be according to the criminal complaint a direct irgc ask to one of their assets that have a network here in the united states, we have put together a plot to kill donald trump. so this is pretty serious. what the u.s. does about this, this is now multiple attempts,

it is a continual threat, it is a bit of a foreign policy question, but one that is going to be answered in the current administration or the one that takes office on january 21st. >> or both. tom winter, thank you so much, the fbi charging three men in a plot to assassinate president-elect donald trump. now, to the shocking flood of hateful racist text messages being spent to black americans nationwide, including children. making references to a return to slavery. the wording of the text differs, but the theme is always the same. telling recipients they've been selected to pick cotton and will be taken to nearby plantations. the fbi and multiple attorneys general are now investigating. the texts have been reported in at least 15 states now including much of the south. many of them sent to college students, but some sent to kids in high school and even middle school. some of the victims believe it is all tied to the election and

the campaign marked by hateful racist rhetoric. one woman who spoke to nbc news said the concern is not just for herself but for her family. >> i'm overwhelmed with anxiety and fear about how i'm going to help my children make sense of the world that they have to navigate as black children. i'm going to have to have the same conversation that my parents had with me, that their parents had with them. >> i want to bring in ken dilanian and jonathan capehart, associate editor at "the washington post" and a host here on msnbc. patrice willoughby is from legislative affairs and charles coleman is here in studio, and former brooklyn prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. thank you all for being here. ken, what could you tell us about the texts and what do we know about who might have sent them? >> chris, as you said, the fbi

and several law enforcement agencies are investigating these vile and hateful texts and they said very little about what they are finding. we do know that a company called text now, which is a message and text service that allows people to use untraceable burner phones has acknowledged that at least one of their accounts appears to have been used to send some of the messages and they said they had nothing to do with it obviously, but as you said, as many as 15 states, dozens and perhaps hundreds of people. there is a suspicion and it is only a suspicion that perhaps a foreign government, perhaps russia could have been involved given there was a series of bomb threats made to polling places during the election that were traced back to a russian email domain. that is just a theory at this point. law enforcement has not said whether -- whether any of these trace back to a foreign power. but they are actively investigating right now, chris. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that. so, jonathan, a woman told

nbc, she sees this as a scare tactic but it is working. i've seen videos of people on social media, who are breaking down in tears, who are talking as the woman whose sound we played are thinking about how they are going to explain what is going on to their kids. tell me, what is going on here as you see it? >> well, you know, on election night, on pbs, after it became clear that donald trump was on his way to the presidency, that i said that i was concerned on multiple levels and the first level i said was i was concerned as an african american, because of the rhetoric used by donald trump on the campaign trail. saying that he wanted to let police have -- some sort of day of rage where they could get the crime situation under control in various cities.

well, the dog whistle there is that he's going to go after -- after black people. and, so, to see that these text messages were going out, the day after he becomes president-elect, just feeds into the fear and concern that a lot of african americans have about what is to come. and chris, what is especially pernicious about this text messaging campaign is that some messages just said something like greetings. other messages said greetings and the person's name. and so, how did they get the person's name. how did they get the person's cell phone number. where did they get this information to target specific people. and now target specific people in multiple states across the country. i know we're in this moment where we're trying to come to grips with what just happens --

with what just happened, but i don't think anyone, particularly in those of us in our profession, and i'm not saying that we're doing that here, i'm just doing a shot across the bow to others, to not downplay the concern and the legitimate fears particularly people of color and especially black people have a result of the election of donald trump to another term in the white house. >> and i want to go back, charles, to what he said about the ubiquitousness of the information out there but i was struck by the fact that so many of the recipients were young. that they were college and high school students, middle school students who before their parents would ever want to, they have to sit down and have a very serious conversation. but from a legal standpoint, and the search that is going on for who might be behind this, does that tell us anything about the type of person, the group that might do this, or is this just

what people -- horrible people do and how they think they can get it out there. >> well, certainly, there is a profile of a person who is a horrible person who engages in this sort of behavior. a white supremacist, someone on the far right. but make no mistake about it. but regardless of the illegality of this and the fbi has the ability to make those assessments to do their investigations, there is one thing that you said in your reading that i had a problem with and it was the characterization of this as shocking. it is disappointing and it is upsetting. but it is not shocking and the reason why these individuals who have been targeted are often times younger because the people who are sending these messages want to send a very clear message as early as possible, so that folks understand where we are going and what this is. and as we have this conversation, it is incredibly important that we realize that

for those people who are expressing a little bit of hesitancy, a little bit of reticence, unsurety around whether they're going to continue to be in lockstep around hur coalition, this is why. and because this is a real fear. and as knowledge talked about, this could not be put in the same breath as wondering whether you'll be ostracized for people not knowing how you voted. no, this is a safety issue that black people in america are not going to be able to escape. so it is a false equivalency for us to say at this point, we should come together and move forward. >> take a breath. >> right. because this is something that is affecting us, our children, our families and our livelihoods in ways that other people simply cannot understand. >> and patrice, the president of your organization, ceo derek johnson condemned the texts but he said something to charles' point. these actions are not normal. and we should refuse to let them

be normalized. talk about that and what can be done about it. i feel like every time i have you on, every time i have somebody from the naacp, every time i have charles on, because we talk a lot about civil rights cases, i'm asking this question, what do we do about it and here we are again. >> well, chris, thank you for having me on. and this is a critical point that leadership and the tone is very important. elections have consequences. and the president-elect's campaign was built on hate and grievance. which has contributed to an environment of hate, racial hatred, and racial terror that the naacp has seen since its inception in 1909. as mr. coleman has indicated, there is a great deal of empowerment and joy among young black americans. and these messages are meant to

tamp that down. but the proliferation is the evidence that when you don't denounce hatred and you actually promote it, there are consequences for fellow american citizens. these text messages are disturbing but they are only beginning. we saw this going back from the enactment of the 14th amendment and the rise of jim crow and the rise of racial terror. this is the latest iteration of that strategy. >> jonathan, one mother whose daughter received one of these texts told your paper, and it is really to charles' point, is he shed i'm disappointed but i'm not shocked. is this a new world for black americans, or a continuation -- i guess maybe the better question is this a continuation or escalation of the world that black americans were already living in and i should say about that i've also had other people

of color reach out to me and say that they have also had the same kind of reaction given where we are right now in this moment. >> it is a continuation. and i think a lot of fear, especially as a result of these text messages, is is this the beginning of an escalation. there is a reason why people were in the streets four years ago after the murder of george floyd. but he was not the first person killed by -- first black person killed by law enforcement, unarmed black person killed by law enforcement. people had been marching in the streets for generations. what is concerning -- what is concerning here is we don't seem to learn the lessons, and by we the american people, don't seem to learn the lessons of the past. and when we, meaning black people, talk about our concerns, talk about, you know, fill in the blank person who has just been killed by law enforcement,

just been killed by vigilante, set upon by white supremacists, that suddenly when we ask for our leaders and ask for our government to take our lives seriously, suddenly it is, you know, you're catering to the far left, that you are not paying a -- attention to other issues and we're asking you could pay attention to our dignity. you could pay attention to our lives. we are very much part of the american fabric. when we say to you, we don't think it is right that law enforcement has done this to george floyd, that you take what we're saying seriously. especially since we have been saying the same thing for generations. miss freeman, the woman you showed at the beginning of this segment, that conversation she had to have with her child, as to getting those text messages,

that is the conversation that black parents have been having with their children for generations. unfortunately because of text messaging and social media, she wasn't able to have that conversation on her timetable, painful timetable. she had to have that conversation because someone decided to weaponize her child's identity. >> and we know, as you said, that information is out there on all of us, but it is not hard to find out. details of a person. charles, is this a hate crime? >> it is unquestionably. and i think -- i don't use this word often, but the notion of being terrified. as a civil rights attorney, i am terrified when i think about where we are right now. meaning that this is november. by january there will be a new attorney general and there will be a new person handling the doj office and kristin clark will not be there to do the amazing

job she's done. this investigation, wherever it goes, will likely end there and then what happens? what happens to people who are responsible for perpetrating these wrongs and what happens to the other people who feel emboldened at that point, because we could almost guarantee that under a donald trump doj, whom ever he decides to be the a.g. the level of civil rights cases will not be under what it was this last administration and that is what terrified me, because there will be to guardrail, there will be no stop or legal repercussions to stop actions as they've been identified as legal and hate crimes and that is deeply problematic and that is something we have to stay keeping our eyes on. >> so patrice, you worked on the hill and worked on the executive branch, do you have confidence in a case like this at this moment in time? >> i think that during the past few years, we have seen that public officials and the

american people have really shored up our democracy. i do have faith that the american people are good people. i do have faith that there is a dedicated group of public officials that are more interested in multi-racial democracy and in protecting the rights of americans, all americans. but i think that when racial hate is used as a political tool and not denounced, it erodes democracy and it creates danger. so it is going to be up to those, everyone who believes in democracy to shore it up and call out hate wherever it is. and we're calling on this administration to denounce the hate and grievance that they ran on and to really promote healing and to tamp down on all of that hateful rhetoric. >> jonathan capehart, patrice willoughby and charles coleman, a important conversation at a important time in our history

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say they will stand as a protector for their constituents. >> we believe we are prepared for whatever comes and we'll do everything in ow poor to defend the rights of washingtonians and people of this great state. >> if you try to harm new yorkers or roll back their rights, i will fight you every step of the way. >> you come for my people, you come through me. >> california governor gamin newsom is calling for a special legislature and asked if he would leave if he was asked to and answered with a firm no. and even the pentagon, a nonpartisan agency, bracing for a shake-up, sent a message that the u.s. military will stand ready to carry out the policy of the next commander-in-chief and to obey all lawful orders from the civilian chain of command. and you'll remember how democratic voters responded the last time donald trump won back in 2016.

hundreds of thousands of protesters turned out in washington and across the country and now some of those same organizers are planning a people's march on january 18th, two days before the inauguration. von hilliard is following this for us. walk us through the potential trump policies that you are hearing that have governors and other democratic leaders so worried? >> reporter: right. i think that this is the moment here where the trump white house is already indicated that they intend to use greater executive authority to try to ensure that they are able to implement some of their policies that they feel like they fell short of being able to ultimately implement because of road blocks, whether it be through the federal department and agencies, through federal workers, civil workers who were not adhering to the agenda that they sought to implement. but also at the state level. we saw litigation, hundreds of lawsuits filed by states fromoh

against the federal government. and what you see now is california governor gavin newsom suggesting he will call a special session in california to codify some of the state policies into law, in order to set up what could be a series of litigation against any federal efforts coming out of this administration to try to change policies at the state level impacting the state. but also you're looking at reality here. that when we're talking about protests, that may or may not take place. i've covered the trump campaign for the last several months and we saw only a handful of individuals who inside of trump's rallies openly protested. that was a stark contrast to what we saw eight years ago in the closing months of donald trump's candidacy and the day after his 2016 victory. there was streets in manhattan

that were shut down and protests across the country. we didn't see that this go around after his election on tuesday night. and so the question here is to what extent is there not only an organizic grassroots resistance, that we saw folks getting engaged at the local level and legislature, but this time around the trump team feels like they've received a mandate winning the popular vote and feel like they're in a position to go and take head on and learn from where they fell short in the first administration to be most effective to be able to push through their conservative policies across the country. >> von hilliard, thank you for that. let me turn to california attorney general rob bonta handling these fights against the trump administration. it is good to see you. in response to governor newsom calling this special session, donald trump just this morning said that gavin newsom is trying to kill our nation's beautiful california. he's made some similar comments before. so why is this special session

needed? what do you need and what is your plan? >> interesting comment from a noncalifornians. the californians think differently including our leadership and we made our voice heard clearly through the election here. trump was a big loser. lost by almost 2 million votes. and trump and trumpism was firmly rejected here in california. we're going to continue on our path to progress, pursuing rights and reproduct freedom and gun safety and compassionate and human treatment of our migrants and climate action and we anticipate that we'll need resources and funding for that. i'm grateful to speak to the governor two days ago. when he was on the verge of calling the special session, the special session is about getting my office primarily the resources to continue our path forward and continue our progress in the likely event of some significant head winds coming from washington, d.c. so we are doubling down on who

we are, what we stand for. our values, our people, our progress. fighting for our future and we're going to have the resources ready to fight in court. push back, punch back, fight back as necessary if the trump administration gets in the way. >> so, as you know, in the closing weeks, months of his campaign, donald trump made it very clear that a top priority is mass deportation. yesterday when he was talking to our kristin welker, it is what he spoke about most. what is your level of concern about what might happen and how are you preparing for it? >> of course we're very concerned. we're not surprised, from trump 1.0, he had the same intentions. we fought back and pushed back. we pushed back against a daca roll back and against a public charge rule, we pushed back against other efforts on his part to take on our immigrations and hurt and harm them,

including trying to withhold money from so-called sanctuary cities. so we've been thinking about preparing, strategizing about how to support and uplift and protect our immigrants in california for months. hoping that this time wouldn't come. but knowing that it might. and i'm not able to guarantee that it wouldn't and now it is here and we're ready. we're prepared. we have a plan. he has projected what he will do through his own articulated statements and those close to him, project 2025 and we're ready to respond as appropriate and to our immigrant communities, i say i see you and i value you and we will fight for you, i will fight for you, do everything in our power to make sure we push back against the trump administration's plans. >> i mentioned that your state is not the only one that has been making these moves. so i wonder what kind of conversations you might be having with other state attorneys general? >> again, we've been having conversations for months. planning for the possibility of

this day. with democratic attorneys general across the nation, thinking and planning an putting pen to paper, writing draft briefs, thinking about what court we will file in and when we will file it based on the action of the federal government. i think the people of our state and states across this country deserve attorneys general who are prepared, who are ready, who have been thinking about them and their future and we are and we have been. so, we are at our best when we work together. and when we're teaming up and collaborating, we have done that. working with not just other attorneys general but advocates and experts in even of the spaces where we think they'll be under fire and under attack from immigrants to the environment, to gun safety to reproductive freedom and health care more generally. so we've collaborated and partners an prepared for this day. this day has come. we're ready. >> rob bonta, thank you so much. we appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me.

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today the trump presidential transition is underway in west palm beach. and the to-do list is long.

as many as 4,000 government positions need to be filled with less than 75 days until the inauguration. but one critical staffing decision has been made. trump has named susie wiles as his white house chief of staff. she largely ran his campaign and been close to him for years and will be the first woman ever in that role. a profile published before the election featured interviews with insiders who know her well. they call her the most valuable potato wal adviser in the country, the most intelligent person i've worked with and one of the most consequential people in american politics. meredith mcgraw is a correspondent for politico. and sarah matthews served in the trump white house. meredith, susie wiles, interesting to hear people talk about her like that when most of americans probably have never heard of her. but she also has what some people might think as of an

expected background. she's a self-described moderate. tell us what else, when you did that profile before the election, you learned about her particularly when -- politico did, in light of her new job. >> well susie wiles joined the trump operation back in early 2021. at a political low point for donald trump. and she is a big part of the reason why he was elected president today. she helped guide his political operation over the past few years. she was his co-campaign manager along with chris and she built out his campaign operation that has been praised for its -- for being professional and being a well-run political machine. and wiles is well-known in republican circles. she's worked for a number of republican candidates over the years. she's particularly well-known in

florida where she had based her career for decades. and she's really well respected and liked by the people who have worked with her over the years and she's particularly close to the trump family and the trump team. and is seen as a really positive pick for trump as he's building out his next administration. >> sarah, as someone who has been on the inside, for example, you know how many people would come and go from the oval office, far more people had unfettered access and the kinds that had unfettered access that would not have in previous administrations. what do you make of susie wiles and what she might bring? >> don't know susie wiles personally, but from everything i've heard she's a true professional and one of her stipulations for accepting the role is she wanted to keep the clown car out of the white house. and to someone like me, that is music to my ears and definitely a good sign of the type of ship

that she wants to rup. but at same time, i know that general kelly also had the same rule when he took the job for white house chief of staff and he was only able to control the oval office for a short period of time. we'll see if she was able to maintain it. she was with trump this entire campaign, which is a feat of itself because you look at the previous campaigns he ran, he went through multiple campaign managers so i think that does say something about how she knows how to expertly manage donald trump. but we'll see if it translate news the white house, because i know at least for general kelly, for example, it became too difficult to have to constantly be the gate keeper and doing the day-to-day job of being white house chief of staff. if the white house is going to be staffed by more people like susie wiles and less people like steve bannon and mike flynn and those types, i think that is a positive sign. >> what do you think it was,

look, the staffing, sarah, on his first term was volatile to say the least. i think something like 20 cabinet turnovers alone in just four years. what is it that has to be managed? you could kind of give us some insights into why that is such a very difficult job? >> well, i mean, for a first trump term he had no idea what he was doing. so they were learning how government operated while at the same time trying to run the country. and so that seemed to prove a little bit difficult. and i think it gave way to people trying to push their own agendas on trump. and it became kind of a power play within the west wing. where people were constantly going behind each other's back, knifing each other, and that is not a way to operate. everyone should be on the same team. and so i think that in this administration, in the second trump term, i bet that is

something that susie wiles will try to keep in check and contain the chaos. but at least with donald trump, there is always going to be chaos. so it is just how do you adapt and survive in that environment and try to maybe curb some of his worst instincts and i'm hopeful that he'll have people around him that push back on him. that is one of my fears, there won't be enough guardrails or enough voices pushing back on him but i hope they're able to contain the chaos as much as they can. >> let's talk about what is happening right now, meredith. one of people that have access to donald trump is elon musk, he's cultivated a relationship with him. but did you sbh reporting on other billionaires that are key to this transition effort. who are they and what kind of influence do they have? >> well, let's start with who is running the transition. we have linda mcmahon, who was the former small business administrator in the trump

administration. she went on to be a leader at america first policy institute. which is a conservative think tank that was created by a lot of former trump administration officials after he left the white house. and she was a major donor to trump's campaign and we have howard lutnick, who is the ceo of cantor fitzgerald, mother major donor to donald trump, and they're right now tasked with running this transition operation which is a huge undertaking. and we no linda is taking the reins of the policy side, while lutnick has been working on personnel. he has ruffled some feathers about the type of role that rfk jr. might have. but those are the two that are running the operation at this point. along with other people like donald trump jr. and eric trump and of course rfk jr. and tulsi

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