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donald trump will be the 47th president of the united states. [ speaking global language ] >> just some of the world reporting on the resolution of this election. now, if you want to talk directly to me about everything going on, you can connect with me on social media, arimelber.com is the best way. sign up for my free newsletter or any of the social media up there. have a great weekend. "the reidout" with joy reid
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starts now. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the greatest capitalist in the history of the united states of america, elon musk. >> the future is going to be amazing. >> yeah, amazing for elon musk and the other billionaire oligarchs in trump's orbit who are already reaping the financial rewards of the trump sequel. while the rest of us can look forward to hardship, according to musk. also tonight, democratic governors sound the alarm and get ready to fight the extreme trump agenda. especially on mass deportation. and putin's crowning achievement, getting not one but two compliant trump presidencies. as some proclaim that america's
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time as a beacon to the world is over. >> and we begin tonight with one of the most iconic heists of the 20th century. the great train robbery of 1963. when a group of at least 12 men robbed a british mail train heading from glasgow to london. they struck at 3:00 a.m., manipulating the train signals and cutting railway telephone wires. boarding the train with clubs and iron bars, smashing windows, you name it, and then escaping with a staggering $2.6 million pounds, equivalent to $70 million today. the armed robbery would spawn books and tv shows. the was prison time and fugitives, even an anonymous insider, and a massive manhunt for the robbers which included ronny bigs who underpent plastic surgery in paris after escaping from prison to escape capture.
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it became known as the heist of the century. it was big. but what we are seeing now is bigger. and even more audacious. and it is happening right now in plain sight. it's an open air bank robbery, this time by the super rich who are already even richer from trump's win. here's the bloomberg billionaires index, the morning after the election, it's a daily ranking of the world's richest people. among the top ten, and these names will sound very familiar, elon musk, ranked the world's richest person, is the biggest gainer. his wealth jumped by a whopping $26.5 billion. amazon founder jeff bezos was another top gainer. his wealth grew by $7.1 billion. it's the biggest daily increase since bloomberg's wealth index began in 2012. collectively, will gates, warren
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buffett, and their top ten ultra rich friends added $64 billion to their fortunes. kind of makes sense now, doesn't it, why some of them didn't endorse a candidate despite supporting democratic candidates and causes in the past, or why bezos defended his decision to withhold the endorsement from "washington post" of kamala harris. and makes sense why elon musk, who has done more than anyone to elect donald trump, put in more than $75 million right into maga coffers and basically bought twitter to turn it into a right-wing propaganda loud speaker, the loudest on the internet, in fact. turns out trump's promise to make america great again is simply a cover for his and his billionaire buddies' plot to turn us into an oligarchy. ushering in an area of extreme deregulation, laws that keep big
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business in the driver's seat and labor in the back, tax cuts for the rich and super rich, and privatizing everything, everything from education to health care so big corporations can charge you for all of it and go from billionaires to trillionairs. all backed by the most pro-rich, pro-corporate supreme court in history. literally constructed by leonard leo and the heritage foundation, a court that will probably boast two new young members when clarence and alito step down to go on lifetime paid vacations starting on january 2025, which maybe we should rename money train day, instead of inauguration day. and america's new oligarchs did all this by lying to working class people of color and getting them to fight each other out here in these social media streets and ignore the real bad guys, the oldest tactic of wild supremacy. where working people are scrapping it out for a piece of the pie while the rich eat the
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whole entire pie and laugh all the way to the bank. oh, and by the way, the people who will suffer include many of the people who voted for trump, hoping he would toss them some coins, but the joke is on them, too. fueled by disinformation, racism, misogyny, apathy, ignorance and economic desperation, america opened the bank vault and let the robbers in. it's the greatest heist in history, brought to you by trump and our new ruling oligarch class. joining me now is ali velshi, host of velshi, and david k. johnston, professor of practice. and i want to get into with you guys what some of these billionaires plan to do now that they essentially own this country. ali, elon musk gets to reorganize the government any way he likes. they're going to create a new agency for him so he can slash spending and then what? >> look, there's a couple things
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think about here. one is forget the taxes, right? going to be lower corporate taxes but corporations already pay a substantially lower tax than they do in most other developed countries. you hinted at this. this is about government contracts and deregulation. elon musk, jeff bezos, both have government contracts. people have canceled their subscriptions to "the washington post." forget it, it's not the money making venture here. it's the government contracts that amazon web services has. cancel your prime subscription before your "washington post" things. but space, you have that side of things, and then you have the massive deregulation. there's a woman named lena khan, 35 years old, the head of the federal trade commission. not brought any new laws in. decided to enforce the laws on the books about keeping competition alive. everybody in business america hates her. she'll be gone one assumes soon enough. these companies want to merge, they want to take over other companies. they want no new regulation.
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they don't want the government involved in their business. that's why big oil supported donald trump, why big tech is supporting him. the deregulation here is going to be the biggest part of this. the wealth gains are quite something, never seen anything like it, but the control that they're going to have over the economy is going to be bigger. >> yeah, and david k. johnston, what do the working class people get out of all that? >> they get their pockets picked. we already have, as i have written about in my economics books, a whole series of stealth ways that the government reaches in on behalf of very wealthy people, and they take a penny here and a quarter there, a dollar somewhere else, and they redistribute it to people at the top. now, there is one thing you said, joy, i want to address. i think it's very important. there's no such thing as deregulation. there is only reregulation, which enhances the power of the oligarchs, which shields them from responsibility for what they do, which helps them get rid of competition so that they
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have better than a monopoly, an oligopoly or a duopoly. if there's two or three companies with complex contracts, they can raise prices more than a monopolist. that's their goal. not to be accountable, not to pay taxes. and by the way, trump did not pass a tax cut law. he passed a tax deferral into the future with interest because he financed it with borrowed money. that's not a tax cut. that's a deferral with interest. >> and the other piece of what they seem to want, i mean, i'm looking at the numbers here. the number of crypto people who were elected. crypto spent a lot of money, ali, to try to get this government that they're going to get. the crypto industry spent more than $130 million on the election. bitcoiners celebrate as $40 million in a campaign brought down sherrod brown, who was one of the small number of anti-crypto members of the
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united states senate, 253 pro crypto candidates have been elected to the house of representatives on tuesday compared to 115 anti. they want to mess with the dollar and flip it to this cryptocurrency which in many senses is kind of a pump and dump. they get rich. little guys get nothing. >> there's a whole donald trump's entire company is a pump and dump. that's what's going on here. keep in mind, look at the trajectory of the big oil that wants deregulation. drill, baby drill, and don't put rules on me. don't have this fake china hoax that's called climate change. all that, so a traditional company like oil all the way into tech and crypto. all the same stuff. these are the things ahead of us that we haven't figured out how we're supposed to manage. they would rather have somebody say don't manage it. let it do what it has to do, yet, elon musk had the temerity to say openly that people are going to suffer a little bit. there's going to be a little hardship but we're going to get through it. there's not going to be any
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hardship for elon musk, for jeff bezos. that's the trick, the idea is you all will have some hardship, stock market is doing very well, had its best week all year. that's amazing, but only the top 10% get most of the benefits from that. more than half the benefits in the stock market go to the top 10%. this whole system has been rigged under our noses for this to work. unfortunately, these are not the basis of the polarizing discussions we had, so a lot of people sort of missed this, that we have been undoing regulation in this country for a while and that's what's going to happen. they have free reign, four years now. you can do a lot of damage in four weeks in the regulatory environment, let alone four years. >> on top of that, they're going to do massive -- they're going to fire tens of thousands of federal employees which will increase the unemployment rate, and then do mass deportation. and that is going to cost -- what's the estimate here? $968 billion in little more than a decade if they try to deport all 13 million undocumented
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immigrants in the united states. so the deficit sky rockets up. talk about what that does to the cost of everything if you just delete 13 million people who are heavily centers in things like the agriculture industry, the construction industry, i know they don't think those federal 50,000 bureaucrats are going to pick all the lettuce. who is going to do that work? it means you're going to pay a lot more for food on top of the tariffs that are going to make everything really expensive. your thoughts on this. >> not only are you going to pay a lot more for food and meat, but a lot of the people who came here without permission or with limited permission that trump wants to remove have american born children. so we're not only going to separate these families but your property taxes are going to go up because they're going to have to put millions of children into foster care. into orphanages, and we're going to have to bear the bill for that through our property taxes or sales taxes.
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in addition, when children grow up in circumstances like that, the likelihood we will have mental health and criminal problems in the future go up. so the cost of this are way beyond the estimates that focus on just deporting people, and of course, donald trump said it will be bloody. and i don't see how it can be anything but that. so it is shooting yourself in the foot, maybe both feet, to do some of the things trump wants to do. and if he goes all out, doing project 2025, which steve bannon now says just like vladimir putin did after he conquered crimea, of course that's our plan. >> surprise. >> yeah. then hopefully, the damage, much as i feel for the people who will be hurt, will be so bad that we will see a huge reversal in congress in two years. >> assuming we have elections. >> assuming we have elections. plenty of time for damage between now and then. >> joy, you remember i carried around that project 2025 that
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entire time, and i had all these people saying you're lying, you're gaslighting us. the ink isn't dry on the election results and guess what, it's absolutely his plan. it's 180 days turnout. from january 20th, want 80 days. they can get 60% of it done in 180 days, and we were warned. >> and the thing is, because they have to do shock and awe. there's a reason presidents try do their big policies in the first 100 days. you're taking advantage the honeymoon and it's shock and awe. they have now gotten people of color to fight each other and not pay attention to each other and create a hate among groups of color so that when they do start hurting people and taking people out and putting people in camps, now we have a tootsie world where people don't care. when they start hurting undocumented people, the other people in the country including
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other people of color won't care. >> it's tried and true. it's worked throughout history. you tell shias you don't like sunnis. they were all married to each other. they lived together and everything was fine. same thing in america. we were all living together quite well until someone told us these are black jobs and these are immigrant jobs and these are hispanic jobs and white jobs. it's a fantastic job of getting people to fight with each other, when as you put it very well, they're looking for some coin to be tossed to them and the rich folks are taking the entire pie. that's exactly what has happened here. while we were not watching, someone has created what is going to become, what really is perilously close to becoming an oligarchy, and david's point is correct. you don't have to be as obvious as vladimir putin is, you can have three companies control your phone services, three companies do something. you're going to pay more, they're going to get richer but they can pass off the idea you're all going to suffer a little bit. we'll get through this. thanks, guys. >> accidentally being pulled
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across the border as if he wasn't an american citizen. well, guess what, that's going to come true. there will be american citizens who will end up being deported because they're not going to do this with precession. they're going to do it with a meat ax approach. >> and also denaturalization, meaning don't think because you had a green card and came through the right way, if you're brown, you may not stick around. i don't think they care whether you have a green card or not. they're pulling people out and taking people out of this country whether they like it or not. whether you voted for them or not. surprise. ali velshi and david k. johnston, thank you. ali is back tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on the last word and join him weekends from 10:00 a.m. until noon. and coming up, what blue states can do to fight back against trump's extreme agenda. we'll talk to colorado attorney general phil wiser after the break. orney general phil wiser after the break.
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yesterday that there's no choice but to carry out mass deportations. adding, there is no price tag for the round-up of people. setting aside the human cost of separating families, analysis by the american immigration council found that deporting the more than 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s. would cost close to a trillion dollars over the course of more than a decade. a single year of it would run the government nearly four times the budget of nasa, nearly three
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times as much as the federal government spends on child nutrition, and more than the government gives out in child tax credit programs. child tax credits and expanding child nutrition programs or, you know, breaking down doors in the dead of night and dragging on abuela out of the home pause they have a traffic violation and immigration agents were made aware of their status. pick one. >> trump's insists on the latter and his threat to carry out his racist campaign pledge has set him on a collision course with democratic state officials. where it is worth noting there are government trifectas in a number of states with a large undocumented population. on the left, we have a map of states with the highest unthissed immigrant population. on the right, the 15 democratic trifectas. where democrats control the executive branch and both chambers of the legislative. and the governors in states where there are overlaps like california and new york, alongside the aclu in red states
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like florida and texas, will serve as the primary bulwark against trump's deportations. and just three days after his election, and we're already seeing a resistance come into motion, with massachusetts governor maura healey telling my colleague lawrence o'donnell that she will use every tool to fight back against the trump era deportations, and governor gavin newsom of california, a state with close to 2 million undocumented immigrants, calling for a special session to fortify the state's policies against the next president. trump responded to the call from democratic governors with a truth sold post where he took aim at california. and claimed to be an agent of the u.s. demanding states do what he says. joining me now is phil weiser, attorney general from colorado. a state trump has consistently disparaged with false stories of venezuelan gangs taking over, which now serves as the inspiration for his so-called
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operation aurora. something that deeply offends me because i used to live in the next door town in colorado. let's talk about this, attorney general weiser. thank you for being here. how do you stop him? if he decides to order the state of colorado to round up every single undocumented person there and send them to an internment camp, what do you do? >> joy, i appreciate your familiarity with colorado, and you know the story of ralph carr. he faced this very question. the president at the time said we're going to intern japanese americans, and that was based on an unconstitutional plan. the supreme court has later made clear that it was unconstitutional. now, at the time, fdr was able to get it through, but ralph carr stood up for our constitution, for equal protection of the laws, and here in colorado, i want to say what aurora stands for, we're the ellis island of the west. aurora is a welcoming community.
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over 100 languages are spoken in aurora. people in aurora are inclusive, and what you're talking about when you're disrunting families, when you're disrupting work places, when you're acting indiscriminately, you're terrorizing people's lives, tearing families apart, and acting in many cases without regard to the law. lots of people have a different status. there are different circumstances. when you try to act en masse by definition, you're not bringing care to what you're doing. we will. and we have gone to court to stop illegal actions that harm immigrants during trump's first term, we were successful on many fronts, including protecting the dreamers. and we're prepared to do so again. >> and the courts are an issue, attorney general weiser, because the courts are different than they were now. john roberts, the chief justice of the united states supreme court, has made it very clear that he is a monarchest, that he wants donald trump to be able to act boldly. he believes he has essentially
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unlimited power, that he cannot break the law, that if he does it, it is legal, to paraphrase nixon. so how can you have confidence that if you take a case to the federal courts and it gets to the supreme court, that john roberts will simply not order the state of colorado to comply? >> we are going to see a time where our institutions are tested. in the first administration of president trump, john roberts ruled for states who challenged the trump administration on an effort to undermine the census, asking questions that were going to intimidate people with immigrant family members. we also protected the dreamers, and john roberts sided with state attorneys general who challenged the trump administration. john roberts once again may face cases where it's either the rule of law on one side or the trump administration on the other. this is going to be a moment of truth for chief justice roberts, for the supreme court, and for our judicial system. >> let me put up just from pew research, the states with the
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largest numbers of undocumented people. california the biggest, then texas, florida, new york, new jersey, and illinois. it stands out that texas is right there at number two. the governor of the great state of colorado, jared polis, is not going to stand down for this. you said you will not either. but it now seems to me that if you are living in america as an immigrant, who your governor is depends on how much freedom you have. what party controls your stase depends on whether you'll be protected. if you're in maryland, you're maybe safe at least for now, but new york is one bad governor's election away from saying they will join in this, and they have 650,000 people under their -- in their borders. how can we live as a country with a rule of law if how many rights you have literally depends on which party controls your state? >> joy, i would put this a little differently in terms of federalism is a protection of our rights. i recognize that the federal
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level, we have seen a roll back of rights. obviously, the dobbs decision and access to abortion care is on everyone's mind. if you're in texas and you're a woman who needs an abortion to save your life, you may not get it. that's terrifying. if you're a member of the lgbtq plus community and you're living in certain states, you're going to be worried about discrimination and are you going to be protected. here is the good news to the story that you just told. if you're here in colorado, we're going to protect your freedoms. your right to access to abortion care, your right to live and love whoever you want to, colorado had those issues on the ballot this week. overwhelmingly, we protect abortion care and we stopped a bar on same-sex marriage that was in our constitution. we in colorado are inclusive. we want to let people live how they want to live. and that's something we'll keep defending. >> let me ask you if business leaders have addressed any concerns they might have that
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federal agents or even state police could be deputized to start kicking in their doors and demanding to see the papers of their workers. i'm talking about agricultural businesses, construction businesses, restaurants, et cetera. have you heard from any of those business leaders whether they might be afraid they might be subjected to this? >> i have talked to business leaders who are very concerned about immigration policies that will undermine their access to a workforce, that will make it hard for them to grow palisade peaches, to take one notable colorado example. that's something i'm concerned about. as for our law enforcement, basically being commandeered by the federal government, that's not going to happen. in the first trump administration, we went to court on that very issue, and we won. our law enforcement does not do illegal immigration enforcement. if the trump administration seeks to enlist us in an effort that's illegal and that commandeers our resources, we'll see them in court. >> colorado attorney general
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phil weiser, thank you very much. i'm sure the people of your state thank you as well. and coming up, the massive implications trump win has on foreign policy and the world order with authoritarian leaders, particularly putin, saluting and cheering his win. i used to leak urine when i coughed, laughed or exercised. i couldn't even enjoy playing with my kids. i leaked too. i just assumed it was normal. then we learned about bulkamid. an fda approved non-drug solution for our condition. it really works, and it lasts for years. it's been the best thing we've done for our families. call 800-983-0000 to arrange an appointment with an expert physician to determine if bulkamid is right for you. results and experiences may vary.
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one of the archetypal stories of donald trump is how he was groomed by russia. according to a former kgb spy, trump showed up on the soviet union's radar in 1977, when he married czech model ivana, his first wife, and he allegedly became the target of a spying operation overseen by czechoslovakia's intelligence service in cooperation with the kgb, noting the feeling was he was extremely vulnerable intellectually and psychologically and he was prone to flattery. and donald trump's first trip to russia in 1987 to explore a hotel deal was brokered by a soviet tourist agency that was essentially a branch of the kgb. just weeks after that, word started to spread that trump might run for president, as he started displaying his pro-russia lean. a trait he took to the white house. effectively delivering russian president vladimir putin his
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driving dream, a man in washington. fast forward to today. it's clear that donald trump is bent on returning us to the 1980s culturally and politically, so instead of charles in charge, get ready for vlad in charge. because his junior partner, donald trump, is back. on thursday, putin congratulated trump, calling him courageous and a real man. and said he's ready and willing to talk or meet even before the inauguration. and members of russia's elite are already declaring we have won. and crowing about a new world order. and of course, trump is already right back to acting like he's russia's man in the white house. during a call with ukraine's president zelenskyy, trump let elon musk make a surprise unplanned appearance on the call. elon musk has also been chatting with putin. one thing that's clear is that donald trump's election raises major concerns about ukraine's ongoing fight against russia. he's refused to say whether he
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wants ukraine to win, and that combined with an isolationist republican party, eager to withdraw funding to ukraine, it will soon get very hard not to argue that russia ultimately won the cold war, and vladimir putin is in charge. joining me now is david rothkopf, columnist for the daily beast and host of the deep state radio podcast. david, on that call, it strikes me that that was donald trump mafia style making zelenskyy beg elon musk for starlink, to try to beg for his life, because that's the position he's in. his statement after his read-out was the meeting was great. he's now having to kiss up to donald trump and elon musk, just to live. your thoughts. >> i think he has no choice. the united states is the critical lifeline for ukraine. and so whatever he can get in the way of u.s. support he's
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going to try to get. i can tell you i have spoken to people in ukraine, people who are associated with ukraine in the past two days, and as distraught as many in the united states were, the ukrainians were devastated. they have been fighting a war for two years. they watched their friends and their families, children, fathers, sons die in that war. and they know that donald trump is not going to support them in the way that joe biden did. and that donald trump has already said that he wants to seek a negotiation, and the kind of terms he's talking about are putin's terms. and you know, during the last couple weeks of the campaign, there were stories about trump being on the phone regularly with putin and elon musk being on the phone regularly with putin. jd vance is a putin fan. and so of all the big changes in u.s. foreign policy that are
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coming, one of the very biggest is going to have to do with ukraine, and i'm afraid it's going to have potentially tragic consequences. >> oh, absolutely. i think there's no doubt about that. in some ways, i was thinking about the fact in many ways joe biden might be remembered as the last american president. you know, donald trump is in many ways simply an underboss to vladimir putin. the big man in that relationship is clearly putin, not him. and then on this side of the aisle, the big man in the relationship is elon musk, and the other former white south africans who are sort of remaking a country like the one they left. and making themselves extravagantly rich the way putin does. talk a little bit about what it means. a very sad article that strikes you as tragic. the end of an american world. this is the french paper, and it marks the end of an american era. that of an open superpower committed to the world, eager to
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set itself up as a democratic model and the famous shining city on a hill. the model had been challenged over the past two decades, now trump's return is putting a nail in its coffin. the economist saying europe needs to wake up, look after itself. the new world is the bricks world, is it not? brazil, russia, india, china, and saudi arabia. brics, and russia is the r in bricks. and they are ascendant. >> yeah, well, when donald trump was president before, we saw that a centerpiece of his foreign policy was effectively dismantling the previous 80 years of u.s. foreign policy. we built up alliances, he sought to undermine the alliances. the biggest alliance, nato, he talked about pulling out of. we promoted democracy. they deleted the promotion of democracy from the state department website, and he instead kissed up to autocrats around the world.
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what we have heard from him in the intervening four years suggested that he's only going to double down on this. and that we're going to see more of the same behavior. so people in europe are deeply afraid of what this means. not just for ukraine but for the atlantic alliance, which has been the single most important stabilizing force on the planet earth since the end of world war ii. but allies in asia are also concerned. and there are others that are afraid. for example, the people in gaza who believe that trump is going to give essentially the carte blanche to bibi netanyahu that is going to make all those in the united states who said i'm going to vote against kamala harris because i disapprove of biden foreign policy regret, and i believe regret soon that they made that choice. because netanyahu is already just in the past couple days
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appointed a more religious right leaning ambassador to the u.s. fired his defense minister, who was more moderating force, and he looks like what he's going to do is going into gaza, eliminate gazans from gaza, allow israelis to go in and settle gaza, and what has been an absolutely tragic situation with at least 43,000 deaths associated with it, is going to get much worse. so it's not just ukraine we have to worry about. there are a lot of places in the world where trump foreign policy is going to let down our allies or put people who are already at risk at much greater risk. >> yeah, and to say nothing of the next gaza potentially being the west bank. you know, i mean, the idea of palestinians, things being better for them, is a fantasy. it's going to be much, much worse, and lebanon is now involved too.
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we should note tiffany trump, donald trump's trump, her husband who is lebanese american was brokering a lot of those deals and he's brokering his own deals and will be influential because it's a family business. we're an oligarchy now. >> coming up, there's a long fight ahead of us, clearly. to make a difference and to help your community, you first have to take care of yourself. a prominent psychiatrist joins me on the best way to do that next. r balloon ride? swim with elephants? wait, can we afford a safari? great question. like everything, it takes a little planning. or, put the money towards a down-payment... ...on a ranch ...in montana ...with horses let's take a look at those scenarios. j.p. morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools, like wealth plan to keep you on track. when you're planning for it all... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. with the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. oh! right in the temporal lobe!
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it may be an understatement to say that it has been a tough week for a lot of us. i know many of you out there are probably feeling defeated, anxious, maybe hopeful and scared about what the next several months and years may hold, especially if you're a woman, black, and immigrants or a member of the lgbtq community. if you're wondering how to move forward, how to take care of your children, your loved ones, and of course, yourself, you're not alone. here at "the reidout" we're going to try to get answers. joining me is dr. amanda calhoun, chief resident of the yale university psychiatry program. thank you for being here, dr. calhoun. i want to start with asking what kind of -- obviously, without giving away any confidential information, concerns are coming your way in this moment? >> that's -- there are so many concerns, joy. thank you so much for having me. i think in what you very eloquently stated, people are
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concerned about their human rights, their existence, their safety, and i think when we're talking about people who are worried about, you know, getting gender affirming care, we're talking about people who are worried about being able to get access to women's health care, to life-saving procedures, to abortions, that as a very, very devastating downstream effect on one's mental health. as a psychiatrist, a child psychiatrist but i also work with adults, we also see a lot of children who are born to parents who are struggling. they might have mental health issues, and those children sometimes develop very severe behavioral problems, suicideality, and i have a lot of concerns about the supports those kids are going to have going forward. >> we know there's been a vast increase since the election, 700% increase in calls from lgbtq youth to the trevor
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project, which offers a phone, online chat, or text to people. 700% increase in chats. people are scared but they don't know what's going to happen to them. i wonder if also, are people challenged with the idea of how do you interact with people you know voted for this? if you're an lgbtq person and know someone in your family voted essentially against your rights or you're a woman, knowing this man was calling people the b word, jd vance was literally calling kamala harris the trash. and said we're going to take out the trash. i know a lot of black women were incredibly triggered by that. if you meet somebody and you know they voted for the people who called your trash or if you're puerto rican, you know someone voted that way, do you recommend just from a >> i love that you asked this question because there is a push, i think there is a societal norm that if somebody is your family that they are entitled to your time and i
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think the answer is absolutely not, so if you are going through a situation where you have family members, close friends who you know have voted in ways that are against you, like what you said, against your livelihood, it is completely fine to not be around those people and tell them why, to say i have a problem with the way that you voted because it went against my very livelihood and i'm not going to be around you this holiday, i need to take some space for me and i actually talked to adults as well as advising parents for children. i think, i don't think you should force children or adults to be around people just because they are your family, there is a level of need to establish boundaries and if you feel like you need to establish boundaries with people, whether they are your family or not, i
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think you should very much be entitled to do so and i think it may be essential for your mental health. >> do you recommend people limit social media time and i can almost see my executive producer looking at me as i'm asking this question. >> i think one should think about how the social media is affecting them, for some people, there are groups that can be quite grounding, maybe it's their only way to get some support, especially if they are in environments where they are not feeling support so i think there can be healing aspects to social media but you have to check in with yourself. if you find you are going down a rabbit hole or getting in arguments on social media or seeing arguments that are causing you to get angry, then probably take a break from the social media. i wouldn't say 100%, but definitely keep tabs on it. >> how do you explain to children, if a child asks, why did the man who insults people, who is cruel, who did very
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vulgar things on camera, how do you explain to a kid why that person is the president? >> i think we need to explain that there are a lot of people who have these mind-sets about women and a lot of people that have very damaging and concerning mind-sets about women, black people, transgender people and that these people exist, so i think we should be very up-front with children about that because there are people that supported him and there are a lot of people walking around today that support that rhetoric and that language and children should be aware of it and we should help to protect them. >> what should we say two little girls who were hopeful, as kamala harris was going to be there role model, now you have men bullying them, saying
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your body, my choice, but for the girls who are now devastated, and it looks like this country doesn't like women so much, and doesn't like black women specifically?>> i would say it is a time for morning and a time to be sad, to be upset and to let those emotions out, but also to know that we as black women, we have been through a lot, women have been through a lot, we are a resilient group and we will move forward, we will continue to move forward and continue to stand in our own selves and value ourselves, so be your biggest cheerleader, find your people, find your support and know that no one in office or otherwise tell you whether you have value or not, so we are going to keep on pushing forward.>> dr. amanda calhoun, thank you so much, i really appreciate it, i'm sure our audience does, too. up next, somebody still won it, because they always do, we will
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>> okay, i know it doesn't seem like anyone could have won this past week that we are going to play our favorite game anyway because they are not going to stop our joy. mr. director downtown sterling brown, q the song as i ask the question, who won the week, and it is none other than the queen bee herself, yes, beyonce, the
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freedom anthem creator became the most nominated artist in grammy awards history after receiving 11 nominations for her latest album, cowboy carter, bringing her total up to 99 nominations. there you go, congratulations beyonce but we are not done, please enjoy this much-needed moment of joy from the young people gathered at kamala harris's alma mater, howard university to the message to their schools history maker.>> i love you.>> i want to give you a hug, we are sending lots and lots of love. we are very proud of you.>> you didn't lose, you are very inspiring to us. >> i love you, sister, i give you praise, you did the best you could and we thank you, we applaud you.>> young girls, black girls, all girls, just an opportunity to be so much more than they ever could have imagined, and

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