♪♪ good day to all of you from the msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports". we begin this hour with breaking news. president biden and president- elect donald trump will meet in the oval office wednesday morning. the white house announced the meeting a short time ago today but did not go into specifics of what both men might discuss. trump is counting down 72 days

until inauguration day and several lists of names are being floated as possibilities for their cabinet picks my. we have more than that in a moment. meantime, hanging in the balance is battle for control the house. 17 house seats are not yet called, 11 of those in california. in the senate, two races remain uncalled at this hour. we have breaking news on that in just a moment. new reaction to trump's election victory with democrats reviewing the fallout. pretend you are sitting at a chris -- kitchen table of a constituent you represent and if the conversation we are having in the campaign doesn't fit at that kitchen table, it is the wrong conversation. folks who don't want to talk about political intrigue, they don't want the finger-pointing. there was a lot of attention on president trump's sort of distractions. i mean, democrats are talking about the cats and dogs in springfield, ohio. nobody at their kitchen table cared about that. >> also need today, nancy pelosi in a wide-ranging interview with the "new york times" says democrats will try to work with the incoming trump administration. >> my thoughts about donald trump are well known. i am not an admirer of his

lack of patriotism and the rest, but i am not here to go into that. he is the president. we all want the president to succeed. we wanted him to succeed in 2016 until he went down a path we had to disagree with. but, again, let's give this a chance and see where we can find our common ground. we will see what is rhetoric and what is real. let's see what materializes and we will fight every fight along the way. but it's no use going into his personal situation. the public has ignored that or enough of them have. so that's that. let's just move on. >> we have several reporters in place ready to go over all today's headlines but we start with breaking news and aaron gilchrist outside the white house for us. aaron, welcome, my friend. what are we learning about the meeting between president biden and president-elect trump on wednesday? >> reporter: that is what we

learn for the press secretary, karine jean pierre putting out a statement saying this will happen wednesday morning in the oval office. we knew from president biden and president-elect trump earlier this week they had spoken and there were plans of the works for the two to have some sort of meeting. the president indicated they would be a meeting, the president-elect indicated they expected to have lunch. we don't know which one of those will play out when they meet here on wednesday morning. certainly, there will be some imagery from that moment.

this is something that is a signal to the nation that this transition of power, this peaceful transition of power, is starting to happen. we know that bureaucracy is doing what it does in the background but this is an opportunity for the nation to see the outgoing president and the incoming president in this moment, sort of passing of the baton, if you will, before the administration actually change over in january, a tradition that goes back, obviously, through the course of the presidency of this country. it is something we saw not in the last changeover of the administration in 2020. former president trump did not extend the invitation to then president-elect biden to come to the white house in 2020. we did, of course, see that happen with president obama with president trump elected in 2016. we saw him come to the white house and sit with president obama then in the oval office. they were able to speak to the media after they met for about an hour, as was the readout from that meeting back then. so really, there is a contrast. you can see some of the video here from that meeting in 2016. this is something we have seen play out over and over again. obviously, not only with president obama, we saw with president bush transitioning to

president obama, from bush to clinton, the way back to jimmy carter and ronald reagan, something that is, really, again, designed to be a moment for the country to see there is this process in place for transitioning from one administration to the other without some of the rancorous rhetoric we hear during the campaign cycles. of course, we only saw after the election in 2020 the speech that former president trump gave on the ellipse here in washington on january 6 for his

group of supporters, that mob of supporters went to the capitol and caused so much destruction there ahead of the certification of the vote. again here, alex, we know of next week, on wednesday, we will see president biden and president-elect trump together here at the white house in the oval office. >> that is what happens when a grown-up is in charge. you don't need a comment on that, my friend. thank you. we will get more from jake traylor in west palm beach. you will be taking on the trump team about this white house meeting. >> reporter: alex, so far we have not. we have heard nothing from the trump transition team in terms of an official meeting and we have not seen a post from trump on true social about this meeting to take place on wednesday, which is often times a lot of the way we find out about how the president-elect feels and about his meetings. they did speak earlier this week and they had somewhat of a respectful and cordial conversation. that is something we can hopefully anticipate for this meeting on wednesday. in terms of what the president- elect has been doing of the past few days since election day, we have seen donald trump move on two different things. one has been conversations with world leaders and two, his cabinet pick have been late to pick the administration he will eventually serve with over the next four years. we saw so much turmoil during that administration, record- setting amount we have not seen in decades, over 20 different officials were overturned, we

saw four different chiefs of staff, two different attorney generals. we know that this time around donald trump and his team are focused on trump loyalists, individuals they believe will stick with trump through the entire administration. a potential example of that is former acting attorney general matt whitaker, who served in trump's first administration. he has continued to be a voice to trump over the past years and we have seen him on the campaign trail with jd vance in the past few months. resources tell nbc news he is actively being considered for the attorney general role. he was asked about that in an interview. listen to what he said. ♪ ♪ >> that is 100% up to donald trump. you know, he won this election with the majority of the popular vote. the department of justice needs serious attention. you know, we need to get back to the rule of law, you know, basic blocking and tackling of violent crime and national security interest.

>> reporter: if he calls upon you, are you ready to take that job? >> i president trump to be successful. if he wants me to be part of his success, i would serve. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: in addition to that meeting with president biden we will see take place next week, trump will continue to stay focused to meet with world leaders and whittle down that list, including the ag will co-. >> that is what you do. thank you for that. let's go to the latest in the race for congress where republicans have sent a majority and are looking to take control of the house. julie, any change, first of all, in the last hour? tell the viewers where the house stands right now and do republicans actually have a chance of flipping it? >> reporter: that is the one million-dollar question. if u.s. mike johnson, the current speaker, he would say

no, he already expressed optimism writing in a letter to his republican colleagues they will have a majority and likely expand the majority. i don't know about all of that but this is way too close now. regardless if republicans or democrats end up taking the majority, it will be a very tight margin, not unlike what we have seen in the past two years where republicans had a four or five seat majority. this could be less than a. there are many house races that have not been called, 12 of them we are watching very closely, four of those in deep blue california come in purple districts there.

that could decide who has the majority in the house and more importantly, the kind of mandate, the kind of power that president-elect trump has in the white house. you can imagine if he has the house, in addition to the seneca he can get more done, especially on his tax agenda. he wants to overhaul the american tax code and make a lot of changes there. also, at the southern border, of course, and doing a lot of the federal regulations we heard so much about. former speaker nancy pelosi still has a lot of influence within the democratic party. she gave an interview on many subjects, including lamenting how the top of the ticket did in the presidential contest but she did give credit to the democrats and they said she ran far ahead from the top of the ticket. ♪ ♪ >> well, i think we lost the presidential election, and, in many cases, are democrats in the house ran ahead of the presidential ticket. so your branding that we all got rejected, we didn't. we are still in the fight right now and it's going to be a close, a very close call.

>> reporter: now i have seen what pelosi is talking about, just from my time on the campaign trail. people did not vote up and down the ticket republican or democrat. we saw a lot more split ticket this time around than we did in 2020. i talked to people who may be voted for trump but still voted for the demographic congress in their district or the democratic candidate for senate. speaking of the senate, we have uncalled races there, alex, including pennsylvania, which we talked about last hour. a lot going on there between bob casey, the incumbent and dave mccormick, the republican, who leads by just a half percentage point with many votes being counted in many counties around the state. also in arizona, kari lake trailing ruben gallego but that race is too close to call at this hour. we will watch it all and bring it to you. >> thank you so much. >> we have more breaking news to share. let's go to that and the intense pennsylvania battle. apparently there is a new statement to share. let's get to that and where the

race stands at this hour and everything you are hearing about it, emma. >> reporter: i want to pull up that map again that shows just how close this race is, partly within .6 percentage points. when you look at a race like that, it is too close to call. that is the decision that nbc news desk has right now, too close to call. what we are waiting for are the provisional ballots, the overseas ballots, military ballots and those are still being counted. .6 % now if the race gets within .5% margin, there will be an automatic recount, as is pennsylvania state law. i want to pull up the presidential map of pennsylvania because in the presidential race in pennsylvania, donald trump won by two percentage points. those are key split ticket voters that julie was talking about because, as you can see, he won by 2.1%. in the senate race, it really is too close to call. what is important to note is some of the other major networks have called this race for dave mccormick.

again, we have not. yes in pittsburgh, mccormick held a victory presser. i want you to listen to what he had to say. >> we knew on election night we had one because the math was clear. there is no way for senator casey to win. the ap certainly recognized that yesterday by calling the race. senator casey, we've got to move on to changing the direction of the country. >> reporter: so, as mccormick has said there time and time again, he believes the math is indisputable and he has the path to victory. i want to pull up a statement for the casey campaign, mattie mcdaniel is a spokesperson for bob casey and said pennsylvanians deserve to have their voices heard and as state officials to make clear, counties across pennsylvania need more time to tabulate those remaining votes.

now, in pennsylvania, in philadelphia county, the mccormick campaign has filed a lawsuit where they requested two things, they requested additional observers and for the provisional ballots to be counted in buckets rather than one by one. however, the board of elections has opposed those. as of now, jeff -- governor josh shapiro, the governor of pennsylvania, and secretary of state al schmidt are urging people to remain calm and patient as the rest of the ballots are counted. >> there's a lot going on the mat. to mr. mccormick's point, he will be able to move on, if he wins, after all the votes are counted. that will take time. making sense of what happened tuesday and the reason we saw so many split tickets. back in 90 seconds. r outas can be unpredictable and innt, but with a generac home standby generator, your life goes on uninterrupted. because when your generac detects a power outage, it automatically powers up,

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new reaction now as a result of the presidential election reverberates about the country. americans are telling msnbc news there take on what happened why. >> i think you had a populist, i saw what happened in the last four years, exploding house prices, exploding grocery prices and we are fed up with it and what a change. i think it was reverting back to what they felt in 2016. >> too many people enjoyed the permissive structure he gives them to be misogynists and hateful. >> we had democrats in office and it was great all the time. it seems like they didn't come through with all the promises they had. >> joining me now is jesse moore, former white house speechwriter to president obama and campaign advisor for the 2025 harris campaign, along with brendan buck, msnbc political analyst and former press secretary to house speaker john weiner.

guys, good to see a buzz. there was a fair amount of ticket splitting in this election. you had democratic senators winning in michigan, wisconsin, nevada, likely arizona, too, the pennsylvania senate race, we don't know how that one is going to go at this point but democrats up and down the ballot were elected in north carolina, including the governor. these are all states trump won. how did that happen? when we talk about lessons for the democratic party, do we have to be careful about being too broad? >> we have to be out and be careful about being too broad into fast. this will take time to figure out. i, for one, are not claiming to understand exactly what all this means but it is important we have these conversations because we have to not be furious or confused or angry

about this election and retreat but be fascinated. we have to be curious. we have to be hungry for information. i am glad we are having these conversations and i hope, you know, all my fellow democrats approach it the same way. on ticket splitting, this, for me, this is what i will be thinking about the next several years, it means that the electorate is not breaking down around ideology. it is not breaking down around ethnicity and race. it is breaking down around anchor. it is breaking down around frustration with the system. and donald trump is a walking, living, breathing avatar for american frustration and anger. we are seeing that is such a powerful force that it stitches together a new coalition of angry people and it almost obscures all of the rougher, uglier, dangerous edges to donald trump. anger becomes the new kind of mobilizing factor

for a new coalition. >> interesting. a thoughtful answer there. brendan, senator bernie sanders issued this critical statement starting with, it should come as no great surprise that the democratic party, which is a banded working class people, would find that the working class has abandoned them. d&c chair jaime harrison blasted that calling it straight up bs saying biden was the most pro-worker president of his lifetime. is it messaging, is it policy, how can the democrats fix either one? >> yes and yes. look, bernie sanders has a long history of berating his own party and, of course, his comments are pretty self- serving. he is absolutely trying to make an image of fighting for the working class but i would also argue bernie sanders was also running in this election and would have gotten defeated. we know that in part because kamala harris did better in his

own state then bernie sanders there. we will see what bernie hand -- has to say and we take it with a grain of salt. i do think it is great that democrats are at least, at the moment, grappling with us. an important part of their coalition walked away from them. that simple. it is a very quickly changing electorate and that they just pretend like this was just all about racism or misogyny and let's say there wasn't some of that, for sure but if you are just angry about that and you don't know what else is going on, you will keep losing. there are other factors at play. there is no one thing that decided this election. there was one thing, it would be the economy stalled for too long and people were upset about it. it could be that simple. when people vote democrat years and years and years and all of

a sudden realized you are no longer for them, that is frustrating. i don't think it is necessarily permanent. there are issues itself when it comes to the working class party. i don't think it will be the party of unions when rubber hits the road. there is still opportunity, i think, for democrats. they just need to accept there is a lot going on and there are no simple answers. >> brendan, we are still waiting to see which party controls the house. even if republicans maintain control, we have seen plenty of infighting in the past couple of years. if republicans win the house, will that continue or will it dissipate with their control of the white house and both chambers of congress, do you think speaker johnson will keep the gavel? >> i think he will keep the gavel. paul ryan did in 2017 when trump won. they have a lot of friction, i guess, between the two of them. when trump won, it solved a lot of problems. i think my johnson won't have too much trouble keeping the gavel. they may make him sweat a little bit. i do think that donald trump

can be maybe the hammer for house republicans, keep them more in line a little more than they were able to. with that all said, this majority is going to be tight and they will try to do some big things. my johnson has seen time and time again in kevin mccarthy before him, if you don't have a reinforcing majority, everything is hard. even the easy stuff is hard. there are teams and they will need democrats. when they fund the government, they will try to increase the debt limit, there is no way republicans, with majority will be able to pass that around so they will have opportunities for leverage and there will be force bipartisanship at that point. it will be interesting to see how republicans tolerate things like that when they are forced to. >> jesse, what brendan you two saying, if democrats end up being the minority party with both chambers, how do they continue with their own agenda? did he just answer that or is there more to it? >> there is always more to it. it will be a rough few years.

i say that as somebody who, you know, i am always hopeful for economic progress. i don't want to score points against party or president i am not part of just to make a point. i hope the economy keeps recovering as it has. it is worth pointing out we see this pattern again and again of republican presidents kind of sailing into the repaired economy of the democrat that preceded them in taking credit for it. that is just a problem with how election cycles work when you are trying to steer an economic ship that is that big. what i will say is this, this is the time for democrats to go, to be listening to voters, not to be demonizing or excising entire selections of voters. there are some who love trump for the worst possible reasons and others just look past all

that because they are frustrated with the whole system. so, a mistake, dave alexrod explained that, you know, democrats, we are the party of working people and at some point we became the party for working people. we showed up and we showed up like missionaries who are here to help but not in a way that is authentic and not in a way people identify with. we still have to evaluate peoples frustration and anger and then we can get to work on policies that have been proven to work again and again. >> okay. guys, both of you, jesse, brendan, please stick around. we will talk about the guardrails trump could be stopped. what it could mean for the war in ukraine. in ukraine. rom parodontax, the gum experts.

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we are going to have to be ready to defend the progress we made here in minnesota. the other side spend a lot of time campaigning and talking about and promising they would leave things up to the states. will i am willing to take them at their word for that. [ applause ] >> but the moment they tried to bring their hateful agenda to this day, i am ready to stand up and fight for the way we do things here. [ applause ] ♪ ♪ >> minnesota governor and former vp candidate tim walz speaking yesterday as democrats across the country began preparations to guard against the incoming trump administration. back with me we have jesse moore and brendan buck. jesse, in elizabeth warren's op- ed she called urgently to save our democracy saying senate majority leader chuck shumer must use every minute of the

end of year legislative session to refer federal judges and key regulators, none of whom can be removed by the next president. what should the highest priority be for president biden and the senate to enact some of these guardrails? >> it is hard to argue against judges. that is, you know, i think there is an old quote from mitch mcconnell saying if he had a choice between passing a monumental piece of legislation and getting 50 judges, he would choose the judges because that is the long game. frankly, democrats, including myself, we lost the long game for about 30 years. was the 1990s when conservatives started to quietly focus money and attention on winning state legislatures. and putting judges in place at the state and federal level. we are wondering why it is so hard for us to pass some of the legislation we want or to get districts drawn in other ways

because we have been losing that long-term battle. some of this is, yes, we have to work quickly to get as much done as we can while we are still in office, but it is also, we have to look way down the road and figure out what we can do to start winning back some of these big arguments. >> yeah, i was thinking to a point about mitch mcconnell, you are making the exact point he has made, that really echoes his career and his lifetime goal professionally of getting judges in place. that has been his number one thing. brendan, representative marjorie taylor greene told a far right new zealot, here is the quote, the american people, the voters that voted for trump are for ntg. she is not radical, she is mainstream america. and tgr her official initials. the economy is driving peoples votes. do maga republicans have a

mandate for their extreme social views? >> let's take what i said about bernie sanders being self serving. we will repeat that for marjorie taylor greene. i don't think it has anything to do with people wanting marjorie taylor greene. this is what happens after every election. everybody claims they have a mandate for everything they always want it. here is where i think republicans need to be very careful. yes, donald trump has a very clear, he can very clearly say he was elected by the majority of the country and he has a mandate to do what he wants. in our system, things that check politicians and check our leaders are not popular opinion, it is politics. some of the things donald trump said he wants to do will be unpopular, we are talking about tariffs and mass deportations. when you talk about having a strong border, that is

unpopular. people will see with mass deportation, if he is able to do that, in practice, to look at it differently. one thing we know about donald trump, he feared for his own self mortification. he was to be really powerful. stripping away peoples children and parents and separating families again will be really unpopular and it will be really unpopular the ideas marjorie taylor greene has and that will work on his extreme views. i am really just looking for potential overreach. there will be a lot of people cheering on donald trump to do a lot of stuff that goes beyond the mainstream. it will be american public opinion that will best told him to account. -- listen, this has been a really thoughtful conversation. i would like to have you guys back together very soon. thank you. all of donald trump's talk about tariffs, whether they will really happen next. ♪ ♪ t. ♪ ♪

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♪♪ nbc news has confirmed elon musk briefly joined president- elect donald trump's all wednesday with ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy. it was one of several calls trump took with world leaders after his election victory. russian president vladimir

putin says he is ray to pick up if trump calls him and french leader emmanuel macron said he was one of the first to congratulate trump. join me now is david road, msnbc senior editor for national security, his new book, where tyranny begins, the justice department, the fbi and the war on democracy. david, welcome back to the show. good to see you. as you know, trump recently said he would end russia's war with ukraine will on day one. there are no reports of him speaking with vladimir putin this week. do you make anything of him handing elon musk the phone during the zelenskyy call? >> musk has been a huge supporter of donald trump and initially backed the ukrainian government by giving them starlink but by then, that limited the access to starlink. it was a very brief encounter. my colleagues have more details. he essentially walked in the room, said hello on the phone and left the room. i think it is a sign to zelenskyy that he has got to compromise and there are various plans out there, none of them specific, but all of

them look bad for ukraine. he would have to give up the territory it has now and give up the nato membership in exchange for the war to end. >> which superficially, that description, that i have not read, you just walked it through us, it could be braggadocio on trump's park, elon musk just came in, say hello to vladimir zelenskyy and then he leaves. that could be it. >> it is also a way to say it is impromptu and was not planned but there is a measure there. he is the world's richest man. he blocked them from using starlink to carry out attacks near crime area. -- crimea. maybe it was too aggressive but it is amazing to have a private company in the world's richest man who backed trump for president who has called for and opposes the usa in ukraine is a signal to zelenskyy. -- 100%. there is no doubt about the message, however it came about. a french newspaper declared trump's reelection the end of

the american world. the french president told leaders trump was elected to defend the interest of americans. what europeans must ask, are they ready to defend the interest of europeans? give me, david, your sense of your's concerns now. >> it is clearly nato with respect to russia, the aggressiveness with the invasion of ukraine and the aggressiveness of the biden administration's a board of ukraine was post-world war ii and would help western europe defend itself from an aggressive russia. trump has said ukraine has to defend itself. it is a much more isolationist program and given, i guess, economic issues in the u.s., that will appear good to voters. how does he end the war with ukraine in a single day? however americans view triumph for prudent, that is the challenge here.

we do, in many ways, live in that world, trump said he could end that and help america's but i am not clear on how it would be that simple. >> do you think that could possibly happen in one day or is that a campaign slogan? >> i mean, both sides use campaign slogans but that is a campaign slogan. vladimir putin is very shrewd. he will get the best deal he can. he knows trump has promised to end american military aid to ukraine. that gives prudent enormous leverage and push him for the best deal he can get. they are gaining territory though it is not clear it will end in the day, many days or even months. trump also campaigned on slapping up to 60% on tariffs on all chinese exports to the u.s. and chinese president gigi pink said this week both countries stand to lose from confrontation. what do you expect there? >> confrontation. you will see china with very large tariffs on american

goods. a lot of american companies manufactured goods out of china. elon musk, he depends, most teslas are manufactured in china. it is not that the globalization in the inner connective world has not been good for the american working class, but sort of tearing that up and reversing it overnight will not be simple, given how so many components made in china are part of goods manufactured in the united states. so it did not work in the first term. china backed out immediately. we will see if it works in the second term. >> here in the u.s., trump has made more than 100 threats, doj investigations, prosecutions, his enemy list includes president biden and his family, liz cheney, judges in his civil

and criminal cases and journalists, as well. we saw this before with james comey and andrew mckay. how likely is it anyone in the fbi, david, would even attempt to push back against new efforts to politicize the bureau? >> look. trump is involved because the supreme court ruled this spring he has absolute immunity. no president has had that before. the individual agents and prosecutors as to carry these out, they don't have immunity. in our system, you can't charge someone with a crime without probable cause. there could be prosecutors, fbi agents and judges who will refuse to bring about these trials but i just think there will be criminal investigations. there will be prosecutors who resigned and refuse to carry them out, there will be tons of press coverage and legal battles. my concern is that slows down the central work of the justice department and the fbi, combating crime in the u.s., combating russia and chinese buying. and so, again, you know, look, he won the election and he's got a mandate and he should carry out his promises but i

don't think it will be as simple for trump to simply lock up all these people. it will intimidate people and change their lives, but it won't be necessarily that simple. >> i expect to see you often, my friend, as we go through this. david rohde, thank you very much. >> new reaction to what nancy pelosi just told the "new york times". times". ...with horses let's take a look at those scenarios. j.p. morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools, like wealth plan to keep you on track. when you're planning for it all... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management.

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democratic party today with new comments from former house speaker nancy pelosi suggesting there could've been a more competcratic primary had president biden dropped out sooner. ♪ ♪ >> had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race. kamala, i think, still would have won but she would have been stronger having taking her place to the public sooner. the anticipation was that if the president were to step aside there would be an open primary. as i say, kamala may have, i think she would have done well in that and been stronger going forward, but we don't know that. that didn't happen. ♪ ♪ joining me now is meghan hays, former special assistant to president biden and former director of message planning for the white house. good to see you, my friend. there you heard nancy pelosi and senior advisor to the harris-walz campaign who appeared to take if swipe at the lighting campaign posting on x after the election, we dug out of a deep hole but not

enough. the devastating loss, is it unfounded or pointless now? is democrats right to blame biden because he didn't drop out sooner? >> i think there is a lot of blame to go around. there's a lot of would've, could've, should've that happen, starting with the primary season when the president dropped out to the election results but i don't think that does any good now. the party needs to rebuild and we need to focus where the electorate is and where the future the party goes because democrats will continue to lose elections if we don't listen to the electorate. instead of pointing fingers and blame at each other we should probably find out what the american people want to see out of the democratic party so we can win elections. >> biden's camp is pointing fingers back at the harris campaign for losing to trump. do you have any sense of what

the postmortem dynamics are between the biden and harris camps? >> you know, it is really interesting. the white house has always gone along, we were always great with the vice presidency and that department so i think it would be interesting to say. i think a lot of the finger- pointing, the blame game is going on the campaign side but i think the white house team, they have what, 10 weeks left and a lot to do, there's a lot to be done. i know they have flex power and influence but they still have 10 weeks left in the administration and they need to make the most of it and they need to work together. -- in your universe of could've, would've, should've, is there anything they could've done to win this election they did not? >> you know, i am not exactly sure. i think the electorate gave a mandate of where they were and i think that, you know, they didn't understand we were

sending money to ukraine or israel and we could not afford it here. we missed the mark on the messaging for the beginning and i don't think we understood how to communicate another message to the middle of the country or everyday people who are just trying to buy groceries for their family. i think a lot of that is a referendum on the administration and a lot of it not taking the bigger policy ideas for these different pieces of democracy that are so important. >> the harris campaign dedicated a lot of effort to lifting up anti-trump republicans, like liz cheney. the exit polls show harris only got 5% of republican votes, less than the 6% biden 1:less than the 7% clinton won when they face trump. should they have focused on the democrats who left the party? >> yeah, absolutely. i think we missed the memo on where the electric was. it was an economic message more than anything else. they wanted to know how democrats were going to work for them and be the party for the working class and i think that democrats really missed the mark there and they focused on things that did not impact the electorate. again, people care that they

can't afford groceries, they can afford to go on vacations because they are spending on housing because they can afford to buy a house. it comes down to kitchen table issues and the democrats really missed the mark in understanding where the electric went. >> i can't get rid of james carville in my ear, it's the economy, stupid. it always seems to be. meghan hays, thank you so much. we will see you again. >> in the meantime, you can smell it in the air. right now in new york city a lot of people are concerned. ♪ ♪ erned. ♪ ♪

breaking news, several wildfires are burning in the northeast, and they are putting millions of people on alert, at least four fires are burning in new jersey alone, and a brush fire broke out in brooklyn's busy prospect park with parts still smoldering there today. joining me from reading, pennsylvania workers are fighting in different fires, in fact. what is the latest on containing the fire there, especially with these super dry conditions? >> reporter: it is really just the story here.

it is super dry, fortunately the winds have died down. you can see the flagger behind me. that is the metric for how things are moving here. it is steady, giving the firefighters and upper hand here. we are looking about 170 acres in the redding mountains. no word on the full containment yet, but officials tell me they expect this fire to continue for about four or five days. earlier this morning when this look really dramatic, when the fire was really going, they issued some evacuations here in a community of about 100 homes. they have since lifted those orders, but reminding residents this could all change depending on the weather. we caught up with one of those residents. just her reaction to this hellish landscape is something to listen to. take a listen. >> three doors down is our house, and right here is the fire. what you think, 100 feet? way too close for comfort. last night was really bad. you could see the whole mountain lit up. and i could not get home fast enough to my kids.