tv Inside With Jen Psaki MSNBC November 10, 2024 9:00am-10:00am PST
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highest office. and they have done that by adopting measures that encourage or even require political parties to feel a certain number of women as legislative candidates so we don't like to use the word quota in the united states, does something to people's brains when they hear word quota. but internationally the gender quota for women candidates is not weird, it is not idiosyncratic, it is in place in more than 100 countries across the globe. at the recent example where claudia sheinbaum won the mexican presidency in 2024, just in june and took office last month, her victory is 30 years of mexican political parties being required to run certain numbers of women for highest office. creating an absolute pool of women who can stand and compete with men and creating a normalization of seeing women hold the highest office. not just as senators and members of the house but also as governors and top candidate ministers. a lot of these gender gaps in politics and outside of politics , then the united states. >> i want to thank you for this important conversation. important conversation.
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well, everyone, it has been aof a week. i've spent the last few days thinking what happened and i'm sure you have, too, i'm trying not to wallow in it but i've been there, too, i mostly trying to learn from it, and think about what comes next because right now is the time to reflect. it's definitely a time to be humble but it's also a time to be very, very curious. look, i know there is an instinct to try and find very clear-cut inflammation to make sense of what just happened but the thing is the there is in just one, and it's one thing i
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know is that there were lots of factors at play. yes, there have been some major trends wiping out incumbents and yes, there is a lot of sexism and racism in our country. something that definitely exists and something that can be frustratingly hard to measure. and yes, kamala harris ran a campaign in 107 days. during those days, she has a moment of complete brilliance, the debate and the democratic convention, both definitely come to mind. and many of us, perhaps because of those moments, thought she might be able to overcome the burden of an unpopular governing party. introduce herself to voters, we
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have to be clear eyed about some hard truths and the results from tuesday night. trump improved his share with almost every group, men, women, young people, latinos, if that's not a hard truth, i don't know what is. and while we try to understand why that happened, i think there might be, and i've seen this out there so i know there is, and instinct to assign blame to this demographic group or that one, white women, latino men, whatever it may be. despite how hard this moment is, we have to resist that urge, as hard as it is. that's just not how democracy works, because winning elections is about convincing more voters that you are the right choice. no one american and no one group of americans owes anyone their vote. people choose with their own free will who they think better
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represents their interests. people are either motivated to turn out or they are not. and we need to reflect on that. we need to reflect on why an anti-labor, anti-working-class candidate won voters who didn't go to college, white and anti- immigrant candidate who ran on the promise of deporting millions of people made historic gains with latino voters and why a country who ranks democracy as one of the top issues including in the exit polls elected the guy who promised to be a dictator on day one. those are all big questions, man, are they big question that it might be a while before we have answers to them. we have to accept that, too. there were also bright spots. including the election of two black women to the senate, alyssa slatkin, reelection of tammy baldwin, ruben gallego leading in his race, too, those races happened in states where
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trump won, and those candidates outperformed the top of the ticket. maybe there are lessons there. what i do know for sure is that not nearly enough people turned out to vote for what the democratic party was selling nationally. millions of people didn't turn out. and i look at this as i've been reflecting over the past couple days, from my vantage point as a college educated white person, which is one of the only demographics by the way that donald trump didn't increase his share of the vote with and i can tell you, the message of the party is cared for too much toward me and far too many of the people who were lifted up in the final days were people who were meant to appeal to me. look, happen to believe that donald trump is a major threat to our democracy. fascism is a threat, a dire one and so is authoritarian leadership. i believe that in my bones and i believe that's what we are facing but clearly, the message didn't connect with enough people and maybe it was the
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wrong closing message to choose with the wrong people, too many people either didn't diet and didn't show up or were willing to, because other issues were more important to them and the answer to that failure isn't to say fascism doesn't matter, it does, or to say everyone who voted for harris didn't understand the threat. it is to rethink how the people engage, do the joe rogan podcast, by the way, stop diagnosing and start listening. and this week i thought about the first presidential campaign i did in 2004, it's not exactly the same at all but there are lessons here. for one, it produce an outcome that also made very little sense at the time. it did not make any sense that the country shows a man who started a deeply unpopular war in iraq and it left the democratic party with a huge leadership vacuum at the time. turns out, vacuums can be a good thing sometimes. two years later the country rejected george w. bush, his
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failed presidency, which it was and democrats won back the house for the first time in 12 years making nancy pelosi the first female speaker of the house, two years after that the democratic electorate chose a black man with the middle name hussein over the party establishment candidate as the nominee and the country chose the same man, barack obama, to be there president, twice. i traveled with him to nearly every event he did and i can tell you, that he won by throwing out the playbook and showing up for years to places people didn't expect, even when he was running for senate, he was all over southern illinois, he refused to accept the notion that the country would only elect someone who looked or sounded a certain way. he did it, by believing that
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yes we can, as a country. and yes the man is a once in a generation speaker of the coalition to be different today and the politics are different but my point is this, he didn't win by talking at people, he won by listening, he won by listening to the country and charting a new path, fearlessly forward, based on what he heard. so i know you are feeling confused, upset, you want clear answers and i'm sure you are feeling exhausted. but as painful as it is right now, even in the midst of that exhaustion and anger that you are feeling, again, understandable, it's important we don't all into the trap of believing that things can't get better and we can't get to the other side of this. because they can get better and we can, so let's listen carefully, let's be curious, let's learn a lot and let's get back to work. i have two people joining me to start with you are doing exactly that, a state senator from michigan when trump won in 2016, she ran and won, justin jones is a state representative from tennessee and he's always been fearless about speaking up for what he believes in a very red state, two of the most
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inspiring and authentic democrats and they are who i wanted to speak to as i'm trying to make sense of this i just kind of laid out some of my thinking about this moment. i welcome anything you disagree with but i've been watching a lot of the videos you've been doing online which are so good. you've been answering so many questions that people have been sending, hard once, you've been so raw and authentic and i want to ask you a question from me, what are you saying to people who might feel disoriented and discouraged right now, who are asking you as someone who represents them or just asking online. >> first of all, just acknowledging that people have every right to be angry and passed off and don't want to hear, don't worry, it'll be okay because that takes the ownership off of us and really, we don't know if it'll be okay but the thing about the country that so beautiful is we get to decide. and i've been so moved, i started doing this q and a on
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my instagram before the election to ask if people have questions about voting and postelection i posted, ask me anything and there are tens of thousands of people watching these videos, sharing them, i'm sitting on more than 200 questions of people who are ready to get to work and just want to know how. amidst all of that, it gives me hope. >> that's a lot of hope that it offers. justin, maybe he can be a guest answer at times. you are one of the people, when i don't know how to make sense of a moment, i think about how you are making sense of it. what are you telling people who feel frustrated and angry and like they just want to give up and turn off the news and not get engaged with politics anymore. >> first of all, jen, we need
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to be having these bottom-up conversations of how do we build back this party. the thing i've been telling people is number 1 we did not lose our power on election night. i live in a state that has been under maga control for the past few years and every day we continue to fight because we know the south is worth fighting for and the nation is worth fighting for. we don't need to be a pity party, we need to be a populist party. things like protecting our environment, things like fighting for college affordability. we need to be a bold party and show what it means to be fighters in this time. people just want to maintain things as they are, and it's time for us to be bold and offer more clarity. election night should not bring us into despair and bring us into a deeper clarity, we need to give something -- give
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people something to fight for and not against. >> i've been thinking about this so much, mallory, there's a disconnect here. i think justin talked about it, you are in a state where alyssa slot can was just elected to the senate it was lost at the presidential level some things were just not resonating, how, in your view does the party go from here in terms of the national message, the message dustin is talking about, connecting with the people who didn't show up across the country? >> i've said for years, we, as democrats need to talk to people like you would talk to her friend at a bar. nobody wants to be lectured at.
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i've got a lot of comments from trump supporters on a lot of my videos and sifting through all the ugliness, there is a message from a lot of people you know, one said, we don't hate you but we will have lower prices and we are not going to have wars and that is a question for me of, why, why is that the take away that they took from this man where you are willing to overlook everything else and take the vote. what can we do to meet people where they are. also, 2016 gave us 2018 and here in michigan, that gave us elissa slotkin and gretchen whitmer and me, we all got together and said, we can make this better, we have to meet people where they are and gretchen won on a message of fix the damn roads. that's pretty straightforward, and i think people want to see people who talk like them, listen to them, and to justin's point, who fight for them. >> justin, you were in quite a
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red state and you've been so vocal about an issue that is not super popular in a very red state, which is, gun reform and gun safety, for people out there who think democrats need to just mute what their morality and what their views are, i don't believe this, so i want you to tell us how you are thinking about that and how you stay motivated to keep up the fight on an issue like gun reform. >> one of the key things i've learned, i just finished my first term is it's not always what we say but how we show up, it's about how we come to these communities with humility. democrats have to start going to places that are uncomfortable. i went to the rural, reddest counties to talk to farmers about what just project 25 mean for you. we have to show them that we are fighting for them, too and we are not this urban center party that does not care about our rural sisters and brothers. having uncomfortable conversations and willing to find those unusual coalitions.
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it'll go from someone who's been a victim of gun violence to being able to file laws about gun violence. i want to see people who are close to the pain be approximate to the power. >> you introduce legislation to safeguard reproductive health data and set up regulations for how the data can be collected and managed. that's part of an effort to push back on project 2025's plan to monitor that, part of that is how are we going to address the next couple of months. so tell me about the effort and other ways that you plan to push back against some of the damaging parts of the trump agenda that could impact people in your community. >> one of the most damning things about project 2025 was this idea that the federal
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government would monitor women's productive health data, how many of us have a smart watch or use period tracker apps, i know i did when i was trying to get president -- peggy. imagine if that data got into the wrong hands. we lost control of our statehouse but we still hold the state senate and we still have a few weeks to do as much as possible to protect people going into the next four years of a trump administration. right now, people want to see fighters, they don't want to see us sticking our tail between our legs. they want to see us get out there. i looked at the numbers and president biden won michigan in 2020 but most 160,000 votes, vice president harris lost it by 80,000, there was a little bit of a shift in enough places to tip the whole country. but i don't want any of us to have to the take away that this
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was a full on rejection of democratic values. it was a little bit and we have to make that up but we have to get back into the ring and start fighting. >> part of it to me, is there are a lot of policies that should help people, that do help people and people aren't understanding it, that is part of the journey here. thank you both so much, mallory and justin, for being fearless and making us uncomfortable and giving us hope, all the things that all of us need right now. i appreciate you taking the time. from mass deportations which we are all watching, to political prosecutions, we will take a deep dive into what donald trump can do on his own and where he might run into roadblocks. for it all... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management.
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defund schools that required vaccines for students. he wanted to shut down the department of education. he threatened to prosecute and punish his perceived enemies. and he said he would be a dictator on day one. we all remember that and two short months, we will see how these promises shake out when donald trump is inaugurated as the 47th president. our institutions and democracy are about to be pushed in unprecedented ways. donald trump is not going to be a new king, he will be inaugurated president and while that comes with a frightening amount of power, it's not limitless. built into our government and society are guardrails and checks on trump's impulses. yes he and his allies have and will continue to undermine an attempt to remove the guardrails but they are not all gone. it will take work and diligence but there will still be some limits to a donald trump, what he can and cannot do. i wanted to bring up my friend, former acting you a solicitor
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general, neil, it's great to see you. thanks for taking the time. one of the things that trump has repeated multiple times since tuesday is his commitment to mass deportations of migrants and i know that's on the minds of a lot of people he can't do it alone but help us understand how you think he will try and do it and what in the system might stand in his way of doing it? >> let me talk about the guardrails generally first and get to mass deportation. the bottom line is, i think the courts can do something to protect the guardrails but not always and yes, it's a 6-3 republican appointed majority of the us supreme court, but that's basically been true our entire lifetime, since the late 1970s, it's always been the republican majority, and that republican majority has at times, stopped some of trump's excesses, we think about the census case in which they ruled
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against him or the 62 times in the election and the like, there have been times when trump has lost. two big differences going forward in 2025, one is, that the president looks like he is going to have the house and senate also with him, and many of the times when the court stops the president, it's because he's doing something by unilateral executive action and justice jackson and others have said when it's the president plus congress together with legislation, they differ to that or the second is the personnel of the court has changed even since 2020. you've got justice barrett, how does that play out in mass deportation, trump's plan is, he says he will prioritize criminals for deportation, honestly, if only he led by example, that would be one thing but what he's basing this on, is the idea that the alien
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enemies act of 1798 permits it. i think the courts are going to protect us and protect the individuals. it requires an invasion or predatory incursion, which is very hard to say is going on. you know, that is an example of where i think the count -- the courts can and will do something. >> there's been reporting that he may try to deport people who president biden has already allowed to legally enter the united states. can he do that? where would the courts come down on something like that? >> it's very hard for that to happen because the supreme court has said such individuals are entitled to due process before they are deported. that means hearings and it could be in the hearings, the people will ultimately be deported. but it does require a lot more process, it can't just be the president say so unilaterally.
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also there's a practical problem and it would need congress to fund such a thing. you couldn't do it by executive action alone. he may have that, but you know that may require 60 votes in the senate, because of the filibuster rule, so one really important question going forward is when the democrats control the senate, they did not blow up the filibuster. if that holds and the republicans don't blow up the filibuster, it requires 60 votes to find deportations or have the national abortion ban or whatever else trump once to do, that is a very serious guardrail that can protect us. >> that'll have a huge impact on the abortion question. i wanted to ask one more important immigration one. he also promised to sign an executive order to end birthright citizenship. can he do that via executive order?
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>> last i checked, the president can't override the constitution, the 14th amendment is as clear as day that there is no way that he can do that. if he tries that, he will lose in court every day of the week. >> neal katyal, there are so many more questions i have. i hope we can do this regularly as we try and understand what the guardrails are, even as people are trying to cope with this moment. coming up joe biden and kamala harris prepared to restore a tradition that donald trump tried to destroy. the peaceful transfer of power. very few politicians talk about the economy as effectively as congressman katie porter. we will talk about what to expect from a second trump term, coming up next. up next
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suggest the you s economy is moving in the right direction. inflation has come down, the federal reserve has been cutting interest rates and unemployment hit its lowest level in 54 years in 2023. but people don't tend to vote taste on data, and voters sent them across a message loud and clear, the economy doesn't feel like it's working for them. lots of people feel that prices are still too high. and a broken system has forgotten them. and the results from tuesday suggest that despite so much progress made by the biden administration and so much economic data that's positive, people still blame them for what they are feeling and instead they went with donald trump who never put forward a single plan that would help. journey now, congresswoman katie porter. i was so excited to talk to you. you've always been good at explaining things to people when talking about the economy. so, how do you think the party,
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how do you think people should be talking about the economy moving forward? >> i think we need to focus on what our families biggest expenses and pain points are, what takes up the biggest chunk of their budget, so here, i'm talking about housing, childcare, college, and then what are the things they just can't avoid spending on, so that they really feel them when the price changes and that is groceries, and gas. so, i do think the democrats have started to focus and a much stronger way on housing, but there is a lot of room for us to improve. housing costs have gone up 50% since 2019. and even at that point, we are -- we were in a housing affordability crunch. that is an issue where republicans didn't have much to offer but emma kratz could have done even more.
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i think there is more room for democrats to make more progress connecting with voters around the housing cost. >> the things that are squeezing people's pocketbooks the most, a very smart way to think about it. let me ask you the flipside of it. you made a name for yourself taking out your whiteboard at committee hearings. we've got to look at the impact, tariffs, tax cuts for the wealthy, explain to us what is coming? >> so i do have a whiteboard this morning, it's always a little terrifying to do this on live tv, i will confess. but let me say a few things, trump said that he wanted to put was put tariffs on goods
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coming into the united states. what does this lead to? it leads to higher costs for consumers, just straight up, when companies pay more for things, the inputs into their goods, they pass that along to us, straight away. the other thing he said he would do is he said he is going to weaken antitrust. the whole point of antitrust was something the biden administration did really well was to create competition and guess what competition does? it lawyers -- lowers process, so if you weaken antitrust, you will see higher cost. for consumers, he said he would deport workers. the problem is if you deport workers or reduce immigration in areas where we need workers, then they were costs go up for businesses. emma, what do businesses do, they pass that along to consumers with regard to higher cost, so i think there's a real disconnect between how voters perceive donald trump's economic plan, and what we have in store for us, which is a
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fear, higher costs, on virtually everything. >> the whiteboard, we will repost that section so people can digest that. we need more katie porter whiteboards in the days ahead. i was preparing to talk to you today and i saw this news alert that you had spoken with alex michelson of california and you left the door open for running for california governor in 2026 which my ears popped up about that. the outcome of the election prompt you to be more seriously about that or were you thinking about that before? >> well, one of the things i learned serving in congress was how much i love california, and trips to washington and how stressful they were and how much i love coming home, and how much i feel like a californian. i also think, look, and i told this story, here in california before the election, on election night, every day since the election, i'm hearing from neighbors and friends, people of all ages and all backgrounds
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from my favorite clerk, grocery store, albertsons, two professors that they are concerned about what the effect of donald trump's presidency is going to be, including on our economy as well as on issues like abortion and lgbtq rights, so we need to have really strong state leaders, who are willing to take action, who are not cowered by donald trump and not afraid of his bullying, so i think that means that our state governments will be in an important and exciting place for the next four years. >> sounds like a maybe, we will all stay tuned, congresswoman katie porter, thank you for joining me. love the whiteboard. coming up, progress can happen slowly but it does happen, 103 years after the tulsa race massacre, the city just elected its first black mayor in history. mayor elect nichols is standing by and will join me after a quick break.
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places, even a state like obama were every single county went red and even in a city like tulsa which was the site of one of the most vicious racially motivated attacks in u.s. history. 103 years ago a violent and heavily armed mob of white residents stormed into the black neighborhood of greenwood and carried out what is now known as the tulsa race massacre. greenwood had been a thriving community of prosperous black owned business, so much so it was known as america's black wall street. it was a testament to the progress made by black americans after the civil war but it was all erased on the night of may 31, 20 1921. the lynch mob motivated by a lie were in -- burned his assist to the ground and virtually leveled 35 square blocks. most historians believe the full extent of what happened is still unknown but as many as 300 people are believed to have been killed. it also left a void in generational wealth that reverberates today. and while it can never be made right, we are reminded that things can get better because this week the city of tulsa elected its first ever black
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mayor, state representative monroe nichols and tuesday night he delivered his victory speech while standing inside the very building erected to honor the legacy of greenwood. >> a victory alone does not guarantee our challenges are behind us but it does provide us with the greatest gift we could ever ask for, the opportunity to move beyond them. the opportunity not to be defined by our past but together to build a brighter future. >> to build a brighter future. i think a lot of people need to hear that right now. that moment inside the greenwood cultural center was reminder that i think many of us need, that progress can be frustratingly slow but that doesn't mean it's not possible. joining me now is ptosis mayor elect, monroe nichols, i have to ask, obviously there's a lot of historical significance to your win, i tried to do it justice. but how are you absorbing the win in this moment? >> you know, first of all,
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thank you for allowing me to come on today. it's an exciting time in tulsa. the biggest thing for me was having my 16-year-old son there, to be in the greenwood cultural center and to know even on a day where a lot of folks felt like things are tough around the country, there's hope and optimism in tulsa. i think today, every day is new, when i get off this interview, i'm going to celebrate the 110th birthday of mother randall who was one of the last two remaining survivors. i think about the awesome responsibility of being mayor of this city, but also, as i said in the speech, all of the opportunity we have in front of us, to right the wrongs of the past as much as we can but to really work to build a brighter future. it's a great day in tulsa but we've got our work cut out for us. >> 110th birthday, i love to hear that. you ran as a democrat and you won it in overwhelmingly red state. you are the first democrat
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elected there since 2006. why do you think you are able to break through, during an incredibly difficult cycle for democrats across the country? >> yeah, you know i think it's because we talked about issues from start to finish, and i think this is a lesson we need to learn on the democrat side, we've got to center people and we are starting to learn about cities, cities are the place of great innovation, how we solve big problems, i heard you talk about housing, homelessness, public safety, education, cities are the place where all these issues just hit, we have to figure out how to do it together and i think this is a good sign that issue based campaigns can work, even if you are also trying to make history with trying to transcend race and partisanship. if you center people and you are not afraid to go in places
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where they say you shouldn't go, you can make some amazing progress. that's a lesson we learned in 2024. and jen, this is also what is interesting largely driven by the presidential race but more voters voted for mayor this year than any other time in our history and it just happens to be the time when we elected the first person of color. that tells me the more voices at the table, the better off we are and that's an important lesson to learn about this. we can make history when we do it together. we elected our first black mayor of the city and now it's time to channel that and do really great things for this community. >> more voices is definitely part of the road to progress. and you are a part of that. we played part of your victory speech and i watched it also, and you talked about bipartisanship, which i think a lot of people here and then they hear, is it really possible to do that and make progress and you allude to voters feeling like they didn't have a candidate who represented them. that can mean a lot of things. what do you think it means?
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>> i think it means, the reality is, a lot of people don't feel like anybody is talking to them. and they think everything sounds the same, i think a lot of people don't show up to vote, not because they don't think their individual vote matters but because oftentimes they don't believe that even if their preferred candidate wins, their life is not going to change. that means it's incumbent upon us to show people how their life can change. you were talking about the numbers on the economy is different than what people feel. we have to make sure we have to help people understand the difference that it's making, progress takes time, turning the economy takes time but we have to engage folks on the things that we are doing. we've got to give people agency. i think that is what this election started to do. i was thinking about the folks who thought man, you know what, i would like for this person or this person to win but whoever wins, my life is not going to change.
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that starts with doing it with them, not to them. >> engagement, meeting people where they are, it's such an important part. i know your focus is on the future of tulsa, you have a lot ahead of you, it's so exciting. a lot of soul-searching is happening within the democratic party right now. and i think it's important. if party leaders came to tulsa and called you and asked you for your advice, what would you tell them? >> i would tell them that we have to get out of this frame that only a couple of states matter, right, we have to talk to everybody, because you know, what we know oftentimes, and i think this is the reality, certainly in the last few cycles , we are coming back to fix
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things oftentimes and fixing things is hard but we forget to communicate to people the difference that has been made, we kind of leave people behind at times and we expect folks just to understand that we are here to do great things. we have to engage people. we have to meet them where they are. the fact that there have been so many burn off of voters of color, it doesn't mean they don't care about the future of the country, it means we are not talking to them in ways where we can show them how we can improve their communities. i would tell anybody, look, i'm not the foremost expert on national politics but i would tell them, you win it on main street, you win it talking about education, economic growth, solving economic problems and allowing people to take this country to the next level. we do things like that we will not have problems like we did on tuesday. most importantly, we will improve this country and ways in which we talk about doing every time.
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>> mayor elect monroe nichols, and inspiring story and can't wait to see what you do and thanks for taking the time. i'm still -- sure that you're still digesting everything. do you happen to remember the viral picture from 2016 after donald trump won the first time. i sure do. there's a story behind it and a lesson for what we are nd dealing with now. it that is coming that is coming up next. up next. r am
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i john fitzgerald kennedy, i, ronald reagan. >> i george walker bush -- >> do solemnly swear. >> for 235 years to 46 changes from one administration to another including 25 from one political party to another, every transfer of power in this country has been peaceful, except for one. now i don't have to point out the terrible irony here that the guy who tried to usurp power the last time will once again be sworn in as president. we already know that. it doesn't feel great and it probably won't feel great anytime soon. believe me, i was there the day
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after the election in 2016. remember this photo, you can see me there in the middle, as you can tell, it was hard to put on a happy face in the moment, not to mention some of us, not naming names may have forgotten to brush her hair that day. but more importantly, the photo depicts the moment we watched president obama speak to the country and reiterate the importance of the peaceful transfer of power. >> we are now all rooting for his success and uniting and leading the country. the peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy, and over the next few months, we are going to show that to the world. >> president obama said that because that's what he believed and that's what he told us behind the scenes and that's what democracy requires. as hard as it was for all of us in the moment, and it was hard, he set the tone for what a successful transition should be, leading by example despite whatever personal feelings he and all of us had, and we had many. but he also did it because the bush team eight years earlier had graciously welcomed him and all of us during the peaceful
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transition at that time, helping to set up his administration for success in governing the country and on thursday, even after his party's devastating loss to a man he repeatedly called a threat to democracy, president biden did the very same thing. >> for over 200 years, america has carried on the greatest experiment in self-government, in the history of the world. that's not hyperbole, that's a fact. where the people, the people vote and choose their own leaders and they do it peacefully. and we are in a democracy, the will of the people always prevails. yesterday, i spoke with president-elect trump, to congratulate him on his victory, and i assure him that i direct my entire administration to work with his team to ensure a peaceful and orderly transition. >> a peaceful and orderly transition. now those words might sound
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lofty, even clichi and they may make you mad after such a polarizing election. but it's a promise we shouldn't take for granted especially not now, in this moment of history. by handing over the reins to his political rival, biden will be restoring for now, a vital tradition. he will be doing his part to ensure that what happened four years ago remains an aberration in history, not the norm. and probably it won't be easy to oversee a smooth transfer of power after democrats were not given that courtesy four years ago by putting her country first means respecting the will of the people, whatever the outcome. to that point, biden has invited trump to the white house for a meeting this wednesday. that will be a very hard thing, i imagine, it's also the right thing. and we will be right back. righ.
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