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on this new hour, the moment for new leadership is now after the top of the ticket lost all six swing states. and how the war in gaza centered into the vice president's defeat. we're going to speak to a democrat socialist who wants to be the city's mayor and will join us live. let's do it. when joe biden ran for president he made this pitch to voters. >> look, i view myself as a bridge not as anything else. there's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind
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me. they are the future of this country. >> there was a prominence he reportedly signals to advisors suggesting he would be a one term president and serve as a transition figure for the democratic party. the problem is that bridge never came. biden against all concerns ran for reelection until he dropped out in july following a disastrous debate performance against donald trump. biden finally dropped out and passed the torch to vice president harris it was too late. while the party will examine what it did wrong for yearings years to come the party needs too something now. no doubt, this election was a referendum on biden and harris. but the down democrat voters did prove that. while trump did win, trumpian candidates like mark robinson lost his race against josh
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stein. and ruben gallego of arizona is leading. and by some centrist democrats did win reelection. ocasio did better than vice president harris did. and then there's split we saw in michigan. specifically dear born. at the top of the ticket was kamala harris who failed to distance herself from president biden's policies on gaza and didn't reach out to concerned muslim voters. down ballot was talib. did not endorse kamala harris she campaigned on calling out israel's assault on gaza and showed solidarity with the
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palestinians. in the end, voters in dearborn voted for trump over harris. the message could not be more clear, democrats need new leadership. there's a desire for younger democratic leaders. they want to move on from the obama-biden era into a new energized party that fights for younger voters. blue collar voters and putting an end to the war in gaza. it's now on democrats to act just as democrats road out the trump's win saying it is time to end the era politician and the corrupt that keep them in power. either they can choose to step down and welcome a new generation of teachers, nurses, union workers and people to the halls of power or they can be forced out at the ballot box.
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their time is up. joining me now is the mayor. i want to play for you and the viewers what you said to me that night. the warning you gave when it came to gaza, watch. >> the residents in dearborn found that they. to only send a representative, that is a slap in the face. >> that was when we spoke to you last. donald trump still got voted. he exploited voter outrage with whatever you want to call them but certainly photo-ops and it's safe to say it worked to some extent. >> absolutely, thank you so
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much for having me. what i would tell you is on the ground here people feel extremely betrayed by the president and by the current administration. just today there was a funeral for 18 individuals in the city of dearborn offering condolences to the family who had lost loved ones. 18 individuals are women and children. while i see all the pundits all over social media trying to examine what happened. if you do not come to the city to speak to us families, to speak to the residents then you have no understanding of what happened this past presidential cycle. there was wide support for the projustice anti war candidates including talib. >> explain that a little bit more us if you can, more for us if you can. how much of a part did gaza
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play as we saw congresswoman talib did well. she campaigned on gaza's reform. >> if you look at the predominantly arab-american voters, harris only captured 30%. biden captured 80% four years ago. that should tell you how strongly people feel about the genocide unfolding right now and the war that's unfolding currently in lebanon. i speak to voters every day who are in disbelief what happened. we have cast the warning signs. we have tried to tell the officials you need to distance
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yourself from netanyahu. we've seen this play out for decades. >> let me ask you we're broadly speaking about the democratic party. people have looked at you as an up and coming member of that party. what do you see of this much needed wake up call across the country. not just in michigan. do you see them in desperate need of a pivotal shift for the strategy and ideology and the causes they fight for among them which of course is gaza and as others have mentioned, more working class. friendly working class policies. >> what i will tell you, i identify as a democrat not with those who are currently in leadership. because of the values that were instilled in me. standing up for workers and human rights.
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especially on messages. you have to stand for what's right. you have to be bold. in a country that is america, the world's greatest country. when you're pursuing the highest position, you have to say you're the right candidate because the other is not right. you saw the results just last week. if you're running for the highest office in the globe you should speak about how you want to transform people. if you're asked the question how will you differentiate yourself, just saying you're not biden or trump. for nearly a year we advised all the campaigns to not do that. to not approach this community and try to wag their finger at them and saying if you don't vote for me. you ultimately get the other guy. that will be a failed message. don't come to a community that is suffering from genocide that
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has to bury its family and friends and residents have buried over 70 individuals over the last year and tell them that things could get worse. if you have never attended for 12 people or 20 people or even for one and their bodies were not able to be buried. could not give a dissent burial. don't dare come to this community and lecture us about how it could get worse. >> can you talk to me about arab voters who went to trump. so deerborn delivered for trump. well congratulations you're going to love the next muslim ban. your comment from a democratic senator from pennsylvania. >> i think fetterman has done more for the state of israel than he has for the residents
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of pennsylvania. you saw pennsylvania speak for itself. i don't think anyone should ask john fetterman. this is where folk try to analyze precinct data and determine and pontificate on what is happening. people here want a president who will bring back decency. we did our part. for nearly one year we warned the democratic party about the history. they wagged the finger at residents who thought they could not go to the ballot box given the on slot. the cleansing happening right now is happening under the current democratic president. nearly over 100,000, 200,000 200,000 killed and nearly 2 million displaced is happening under
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the current president. tell us today, why it was worth the risk of a donald trump presidency for you to stand in strong alignment with netanyahu. >> all right, the mayor of dearborn michigan. thank you so much we greatly appreciate it as always. it's one of the more alarming outcomes out of this election. robert f. kennedy jr. and what a government appointment might mean for your health. that's next.
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it's the verizon 5g home internet i got us. oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. if we were to come in and remove departments of public health in areas of public health. everybody in our country would be at risk. you wouldn't know for sure if the food you were getting was say. safe. you wouldn't know if the children in your classroom were vaccinated. you wouldn't know whether or not you had breast cancer because you may not have access
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to free screening that public health provides. >> that was the former acting director of the center of disease control and food and drug misinformation. he has always called for the removal of flouride the from water. trump is saying he will let him go wild on. rfk jr. is even reviewing interviews. he's been asked to recommend employees for all regulatory
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health industries. joining us public health expert and pulmonologist. why is rfk jr. in that type of elevated position within the discussions about hhf and could this be dangerous. >> yes, he referenced vaccine skepticism. a real clear vaccine fear. he's been considered for a departmental or czar position that could be influential, it already has. i don't think a year ago you would have thought we would be
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talking about this. we're forced to talk about it because he is part of the anti vaccine movement. that's why we're here. as to the fact if this could be dangerous. it could. the american medical association are very clear. despite even suggests that we need to think about preventing tooth decay and cavities. that's just one of our samplings. >> i spend a lot of time on
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social media. i'm shaourp sure you do as well. i'm constantly bombarded with influencers that talk. we no longer need to live in a science based world, right. outside of everything he's said about vaccines he's also said he wants health agencies to go back to evidence based medicine. are there concerns about the kind of research he backs and supports about what we actually eat and consume. >> the question is yes, that's
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the answer. and the flouride issue he's looking at a study that the findings was not significant. the implication was we need better quality research on these issues. he's now talking about it as though the issue is solved. i do question his comprehension of manuscripts. he's picking and choosing. there is a set of proposals here that i agree with. i would say 95% of health care professionals would agree with. there is a bipartisan a political frame work on food safety. getting rid of preservatives. how do we think about cleaning our food supply and making sure
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we have less preservatives. that's important for tackling obesity. doing so requires investing in federal medical care. these are the actual hard things people have to do. you can't defund the health department and hope to make end roads. the the fda is the first to recognize it has too much on its plate. to your question, his input is here. what is he going to listen to. what's the information and who the people he's going to listen to will be his appointees. what's the talking points that will be rendered. i definitely worry about that. >> what do you think he should be focused on to actually make america healthier again. if the white house were to call you or rfk jr. were to call you
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what would you tell him. >> the fact that we're not in golden age of medical invasion. so i don't know what he's talking about to that point. about your question on what he should be focused on. he has real opportunity if we want to be bipartisan. he has an opportunity to talk about supplements. 66% take a prescription medication. the fda regulates prescription medications very thoroughly. we do not touch supplements at all. multi vitamins, we don't have
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the language to talk about multi vitamins. what should you take. something that should get vetted. not consistent with the label. these things need research so we can talk with confidence about them. most people take these things and we don't have a regulation. he has to invest in primary care. that means building on the proresz of pro, progress in the last 10 to 15 years. the reality of hamas war in details from a new report from the united nations, that's next. with the ones you love. ask your doctor about farxiga today. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections,
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the israeli military dropped a bomb shell. ivf brigadier general isocohen said, there's no intention to allowing the residents from the northern gaza strip to return home. he said while aid would get to the south, the north would get none, as he believed in one else remained. in a scathing editorial, he said infrastructure is being detroyed and roads are being
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built. calling it a quote premeditated act of human destruction. just weeks ago, officials told netanyahu there's a widespread the belief telling residents to leave or be targeted and blocking food from entering. israeli officials denied it saying this is, this perception has been deeply damaged to them. the biden administration gave israel the benefit of the doubt and here we are. the israeli military has pined its choke hold on the north and began severing it from the rest of gaza. but the area's people are being push, the areas that these people are being pushed into aren't any safer. just days after the election, a detailed report of human rights violations and war crimes. the report looked at thousands of verified fatalities. 20% men, 26% women. and the largest group killed by
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forces 44% are children. the ages of these children that have been killed any where between newborn babies to teenagers. the report also calls for the elimination of palestinians. like when the former head wrote a year ago quote, the way to win the war faster and at a lower cost for us requires a system collapse on the other side and not the mere killing of more hamas fighters. what we must not shy away from. a severe epidemic as warned by the international community as difficult as that may be. then, israel's current minister of finance publicly agreed with this statement. these examples are just a few over the past year there have been dozens of calls for more destruction. pushing for the resettlement of gaza by forcing out and decimating the population.
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listen to what the u.n. human rights chief said in light of this report. >> i have repeatedly warned about the risk of atrocity crimes being committed. justice must be served for these grave violations of international law. the report raises concerns about the forces with respects to attacks on hospital, an aparticipant systematic. the international code of justice in its series of orders and measures under scored international obligations of israel to prevent, protect against, and punish genocide and associated prohibited conduct. it is essential, that there is due reckoning with respect to the allegations of serious violations of international law. >> is there really a chance for this reckoning.
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not from the u.s., especially with trump reentering office. netanyahu had not just been using the u.s. election as cover to as many said ethnicically cleans northern gaza. on election day itself, netanyahu replaced his defense minister with someone more willing to do his bidding in gaza. then two days after the election, came his boldest move, appointing ledder as israel's ambassador to the united states. ledder was once a leader for a terrorist organization. and with mounting evidence of war crimes and even with
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before the break i was talking about what we missed in gaza during the election and the devastating findings from a new united nations report earlier today. i spoke with damon the founder of anata who is on the ground
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inside gaza. damon is also the producer of climbing mount kilamanjaro. till us what you've seen since you've been back. what are the conditions at the hospital and do things feel worse since the last time you were in gaza. >> significantly worse. every single time i come back and this is my fourth trip in, i tend to think there's no way this could become even more ratchet then it already does and it does somehow. what makes this everyone more disturbing on so many levels is that we're nearing the end of that 30 day deadline that had given israel to improve the humanitarian situation or face some sort of restriction on
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military aid. what we have seen since then is a severely deteriorating. commercial trade has also been heavily restricted which means for organizations like mine and others we used to be able to sort of back fill up to a certain degree by purchasing from the local market from traders. and that option doesn't even exist for us anymore. and what is happening up north where there has been no assistance. where ambulances and rescue workers aren't even able to reach the injured. it's absolutely mind boggling i. defies logic on a daily basis. >> you mentioned the north of gaza and there's been a lot of
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attention about what's happened in the north. particularly what took place in a heated election season. where the north was not getting enough international attention. residents would not be allowed back into northern gaza. some saw that as the ethnic cleansing. many have been pushed further south into gaza which doesn't seem any safer as we know. are there fears that what has happened in the north amounts to ethic cleansing. >> when you talk to gazans. they will tell you they were being cleansed from the get go and that israel was going to use october 7th as an excuse to take over all of the or the juvenile court -- or the majority of the gaza strip. and you can talk to anyone and
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they will tell you they're facing their demise. this plan to force people out of huge sloths of gaza and push them into other areas. what we're seeing right now in the north, is people moving or trying to move at least from there into gaza city. we're not seeing a huge amount of movement from gaza city for the south. because people are absolutely terrified of crossing the israeli check points that exist along the main road there. they are and there have been numerous reports of people being shot at as they've been trying to flee. there's a sense of we're going to get killed any way so we might as well try to stay as close to our home as possible. because no matter what we do we're not going to be able to save ourselves. >> i'm sure you saw this u.n.
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report that was published on friday. your organization treats children in gaza. what were your thoughts about those findings what you see and what workers see day in and day out. were they even surprising to you based on what you have seen? >> it's not surprised because if we look at the population. the vast majority of the population in gaza is under the age of 18. these strikes are not based on what israel does. simply targeting hamas fighters. you have entire buildings that come down. you have 2,000-pound bombs that level neighborhoods. you have strikes on schools, strikes on markets. when you go into the hospital you see bed after bed of
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children who have been injured. you mentioned i was in the, we were there and saw kids who had been pulled from under the rubble more than once. there are children who are in the icu who's lives are not safe because there's still this severe lack of medical equipment. of basic pieces of medical equipment. there are children who are just moaning in agony who's parents are unable to provide them with any relief. because what is needed here simply does not exist. not to mention, medical evacuation is effectively more or less nonexistent. you have on average since israel helped close the border crossing with egypt. one child a dale who has been medically evacuated from gaza. it's a horrific situation where people are not only dying again as i was saying from the bombs but are dying because they are
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not getting the treatment they need. we still have the scenario where sepsis is setting in. >> what is this spirit of the palestinian people that you see and speak to on a daily basis in gaza? >> you know, they often get called resilient but people here don't necessary like that word. because their current state of being is not a choice. they don't want to be in a situation where they have to somehow be resilient. it gives this sense that they can handle anything that's thrown at them. they don't have a choice. you get the sense that people are emotionally mentally exhausted. it's the level of exhaustion
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that is suffocating. no one here can affect to crack or break. and you really begin to understand this when you're talking to people about what it is that, the details of what it is that they have been through. they try not to get the emotion. if they do crack even in the slightest way they break completely. if they break completely they woápt be won't be able to go on. i have never in my entire working in war zones seen this level of obliteration across an entire. >> it is a stain on a generation. and unconscionable what is happening. please stay safe and keep on the important work that you're doing, thank you. big cities across america
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including new york city saw republican gains. we're going to try to make sense of that and more, that's next.
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and see where it takes you. in new york city a deeply blue stronghold. donald trump gaining more voters than he did in 2020. fewer new yorkers turned out for harris than they did for biden. voters pointed to three issues. crime, immigration and the economy. these numbers might look surprising but they didn't come out of nowhere. we saw a big shift with some claiming pandemic pain. crime is in the city is lower than many voters think it is but fear mongering persists. they tried to look at crime
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instead of pointing to credible data. the same tactic applies to immigration and other issues like inflation. and for those who didn't vote, speculation points to disillusion with democrats. joining us . donald trump has no greater friend than the far left that has gotten people with from latin x. let me give you a chance to respond. >> i think was waiting for an opportunity to confirm his
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prior sentiments. what i found instead today spending the day on hillside avenue in queens and the bronx two areas who saw the strongest shift toward don had trump and larger number of voters who didn't turn out at all. is voters were worried about the economy, and genocide in gaza. >> how does new york begin to change that. your constituent con stitch wants is in the north. we have to understand that tuesday is being seen as a referendum. it's not just a national issue
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it's also here locally. eric adams has taken every opportunity to exacerbate a cost of living crisis and has blamed immigrants and asylum seekers saying we could destroy the city. when you see that from the second largest bully pulpit in america it's no surprise to see the shift. >> even though it is a city of position, it's a city of mayor wall position any where in the world. let me put a finer point on the presidential election. 600,000 people less showed up in new york city. how do you explain that. >> i think a system of despair. what we've seen as much as we try to tell people this isn't a strong economy. that unemployment is very low. more than half of all new yorkers give the majority of their paycheck to a landlord or
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bank. 500,000 of our children can't even afford enough food to eat and we're seeing eviction surge, homelessness surge. all of this amidst a rising cost of living. they want to see an affirmative vision that will not just acknowledge that but rectify it. >> there is this debate amongst the democratic party as to whether or not the party has shifted too much to the left and needs to come back to the center. others are saying no you need to move to the left on economic popular positions like bernie sanders and others. prizingly someone like chris murphy. not someone think of. how do you come down on this debate on new york. a city that has extremes on both sides. you definitely have a very strong working class base but you also have wall street and the capital of the world here
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in new york. >> the democratic party is more closely related to the wall street than the people. we leave the door open to someone like donald trump bringing individuals instead. what we need is a politics that centers the working class. in this run for mayor we have launched to make universal child care a reality for every new yorker at no cost to them. no matter if their child is 6 weeks to 5 years of age. >> how do you pay for that when you look at a city that has broken roads, the subway is not working. it does not feel safe for
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people. new york is the largest safe city in the world but it is thought too dangerous. >> because you have a mayor that keeps telling people it's dangerous until he figured out it was bringing her polls down. we have money being spent on robo dogs to police subway station. we will continue to lose new yorkers because of the very crisis across the city. >> it's a pleasure to speak to you. i look forward to seeing you many more times as this race heats up. >> if you're more interested on this race, check us out. >> thank you, appreciate it. thank you for catching amon this weekend. make sure to catch us every saturday and sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. you can also follow us on x and
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