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crisis. the moment for new leadership is now after the top of the ticket lost six swing states. we're going to talk to the mayor of michigan. we're going to speak to a state assemblyman who wants to be the city's mayor. and he will join us live. i'm ayman. when joe biden ran for president in 2020 he made this pitch to voters. >> look, i view myself as a bridge not as anything else. there's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. they are the future of this country. >> it was a promise he reportedly signaled to advisors suggesting he would be a one term president and serve as a

transition figure for the democratic party. the problem is that bridge never came. biden against all concerns ran for reelection until he dropped out in july following a disastrous debate performance against donald trump. biden finally dropped out and passed the torch to vice president harris it was too late. while the party will examine what it did wrong for years to come, the party needs to do something now. no doubt about it, this election was a referendum on president biden and vice president kamala harris. but results down ballot for democrats actually help prove that. well donald trump did win, swing states like arizona and north carolina. trumping candidates like far right north carolina mark robinson lost to josh stein. democratic congressman gallego is leading lake, that race is

yet to be called. and there's demonized by the right and centralist. progressive candidate ocasio per performed much better than vice president harris did. at the top of the ticket was kamala harris who failed to distance her from president biden policies on gaza. and didn't reach out to concerned muslim voters. down ballot was congresswoman talib who's district covers dearborn. talib who is of palestinian decent did not endorse kamala harris. she campaigned on calling out israel's assault on gaza and showed solidarity with the palestinians. in the end, voters in deerborn voted for trump other harris. congresswoman talib sailed to victory from those same voters

in dearborn. the message could not be more clear. democrats desperately need new leadership. there's a desire for younger democratic leaders. they want to move on from the biden harris ticket. who tpaoeug fight for voters. it is time to end the era of career politicians and corrupt finance laws that keep them in power. either they can choose to step down and welcome a new generation of teachers, nurses and union workers or they can be forced out at the ballot box. their time is up. joining me now is the mayor of deerborn, michigan. it's great to have you back on the show. the last time you were on this program was back in february. president biden was still very

much in the race. i -p want to phraeup what you said at the time. the warning you gave when it came to gaza, watch. >> the residents in deerborn actually feel betrayed by president trump biden. because he promised to lead with decency. to only send a candidate to the city of deerborn is a complete slap in the face. >> that was as we mentioned 10 months ago. since then mr. mayor, neither president biden or vice president harris went to deerborn. instead, trump did. and it's safe to say it worked to some extent. >> absolutely. thank you so much for having me. what i will tell you on the ground here people feel extremely betrayed by the president and by the current administration. just today there was a funeral

for 18 individuals in the city of dearborn offering condolences to the family who have lost loved ones. many of whom are women and children. while i see all the pundits trying to examine what happened to the city of dearborn i will say this. if you have not come to the city to talk to the families you will have no understanding of what happened. yes it was harris for failing to distance herself from biden. there was wide support for the anti war candidates including talib. >> explain that a little bit for us if you can more for us if you can. how much of a part did gaza play in this election. we saw the vice president perform as poorly as she did in michigan. congresswoman talib did well. she outperformed her decisively

in deerborn. you even have who. >> vice president harris only captured any where between 12% to 18% of those votes. these are precincts in which president biden captured nearly 80% four years ago. that should tell you how strongly people feel about the genocide unfolding right now in gaza and the war that's currently unfolding in lebanon. i always speak to residents each and every day who are mourning. who are in disbelief of what's happening. for over a year we have cast the warning signs. we have tried to tell officials and everyone who is running for office, you need to side yourself from netanyahu. we've seen this play book play out for years now in the middle

east. >> broadly speaking of the democratic party. what do you make of this need, this much needed wake up call for democrats across the country. not just in michigan. do you see them in desperate need of a pivotal shift for the strategy and the ideology and the causes they fight for among them which of course is gaza and as others have mentioned, more working class friendly working class policies. >> what i will tell you is i identify as a democrat not because of those who are currently in leadership. i identify as a democrat because of those helping the working class. if it were up to me i would fire everyone. you have to stand for what's right. you have to be bold. in the country that is america the world's greatest country, when you're pursuing the highest office in the globe. what is a failed message is saying that you're the right

candidate because you're not the other guy. that is a failed communication message and obviously the evidence is clear. and the election results just last week. if you're running for the highest office in the globe you should talk about how you want to improve people's lives all together. when you ask the question how do you differentiate yourself and you simply say that you're not biden or trump. you don't want to say, if you don't vote for me, you will get the other guy. we advised the campaign not to do that. and try to wag the finger at them if you don't vote for me you get the other guy. that was obviously a failed message. don't come to a community that is suffering from genocide that has to bury its family and

friends. some families have buried 70 people. and their bodies were not able to be buried. don't come to this community and try to lecture us about how things could get worse. >> i want to give you a chance to respond as those who are pointing the finger. when asked about the impact of the gaza war. pennsylvania senator john fetterman singled out your city saying quote, so, deerborn delivered for trump. okay, congratulations you're going to love the next ban. >> i think fedderman has done more for israel than the people of pennsylvania. i have don't think anyone should ask john fedderman to

come and speak to folk. people here feel betrayed. they want a president who is seeking to reinstall decency and morality. we warned the democratic presidential candidates on the issue of gaza. they stoked hatred. they wagged their finger at residents who thought they could not go to the ballot box and morally fill in the bubble for the democratic candidate. the ethnic cleansing that's happening right now. the millions displaced is currently happening under the current democratic president. don't come to us and tell us things would be different after they assume office. tell us today, why it was worth the risk of a donald trump presidency for you to stand in strong alignment with benjamin netanyahu and his cabinet of

war criminals. that was not a criminal that they could provide an answer to. >> all right, the mayor of dearborn. thank you for ginning us. >> thank joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> and robert f kennedy jr. and what it could mean for your health care.

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if we were to come in and remove parts of our health, everybody would be at risk. you wouldn't know the food you're eating is safe. you wouldn't know if the children in your child's classroom were vaccinated. you wouldn't know whether or not you had breast cancer because you may have not had access to free screenings that

health care provides. >> that was one of the extreme proposals from the failed candidate who ran on a campaignover vaccine misinformation. he's also called for the removal of flouride from water. considered one of the best changes. he's been asked to recommend appointees for all regulatory health agencies. joining me now is dr. gupta, public health expert and pulmonologist. i don't know where to begin with this. but i will start with broadly

speaking. why is jfk -- rfk jr. >> what he's done is leveraged the moment here and red meat for 30% of the country. which is vaccine skepticism. a very clear anti vaccine theme that is driven probably last 25 years of his career. that's what he's done. he's doubled down on it. and as a result, unfortunately he's being considered for a czar position that could be influential. it already is. a year ago i don't think you thought we would be talking about this. we're forced to talk about something because he's relevant to a movement that is dangerous. the anti vaccine movement and that's why we're here. as to your question on could this be dangerous? of course. you mention flouride. there's a lot of things we

could talk about but let me take flouride. the american association of pediatrics are very clear, despite even medical data. women that are pregnant who might be exposed to flouride water. that's just one example. >> i spend a lot of time on social media dr. gupta and i'm sure you do as well. i'm constantly bombarded with influencers that talk about health and nutrition. i see that some have come out

and praised r.f.k. jr. because he wants to return to simple. people feel obesity is on the rise. the food we're eating is full of processed material and content that's making it unhealthy. and he's been able to exploit that to create this idea that we no longer need to live in a science based world right. and outside of everything he has said about vaccines. he's also said he wants health agencies to return to focusing on gold standard research and evidence based medicine. are there concerns about the kind of research that he would back or that he would support about what we actually eat and what we consume? >> well, let's take an example. the answer is question. that's the answer. here's where i'm concerned. the flouride issue he's look -bg at a study for which the

findings were not statistically. he's now talking about it as though the issue is solved. i do question his. to your point on food safety. there is a set of proposals here that i agree with that i would say 95% of health care professionals would agree with that if you were to focus on, he actually has a real opportunity to have some breakthroughs here. there is a bipartisan apolitical frame work getting rid of preservatives. i've seen some of the same posts that i'm sure you've seen. how we can clean our food supply. that's important for tackling obesity. doing so requires really investing in primary care.

making sure the affordable health care is affordable. these are the actual hard thing -ps people have to do to address chronic obesity, chronic disease. things you have been charged with. you can't defund the health care system and then make end roads. the health care system is something you have to take seriously and has not been done well. i think the fda has to recognize that it has too much on its plate. to your question, his inputs here. what is he going to listen to. what's your information and who are the people he's going to listen to. there will be some appointees and what are the talking points that are going to be rendered. i definitely worry about that. >> what do you think he should be focused on to actually make america healthier again. if he were to, if the white house were to call you and rfk were to call you. >> the fact that we're not in

the gold era. 85% goes to verge. at academic centers and hospitals and they're bringing out research. largely everybody will agree we're in the golden age of medical invasion so i don't know what he's talking about on that point. when you ask what he should focus on. if we want it to be a political, he has the real opportunity to focus on the supplements regime. more people, 74% of americans take supplements. 66% take a prescription medication. the fda regulates prescription medications very thoroughly. we do not touch supplements at all. multi vitamins we don't have the language to talk about multi vitamins in a rigorous way. what we should take, what's something that needs to get vetted. what's not actually consistent with the ingredient label. these things need regulation so we can talk about it. we can build trust and

confidence around them. most americans take these things and we don't even have a regulatory. he says trump in the next two years we need impacts. he has to invest in care. that means building on the progress of the last 10 to 12 years on the affordable health care act. not breaking it down. >> it's always a pressure. thank you so much. greatly appreciate your insights. >> the horrific reality of the israel hamas war in details from a new report from the united nations, that's next.

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he added that while humanitarian aid would regularly reach gaza south the north would get none since as he claimed, no more civilians remained. for weeks, human rights organizations have accused israel of cleansic gaza. now they have leveled that charge condemning prime minister netanyahu for putting this ethnic cleansing on full display. in a scathing editorial, the few palestinians remaining in the area are being forcibly evacuated homes and infrastructure are being destroyed and wide roads in the area are being built and completing the separation of the communities in the northern strip from the center of gaza city. calling it a quote premeditated act of human destruction. just weeks ago, u.s. officials told netanyahu that there is a widespread perception that israel is isolating gaza's north telling residents to leave or be targeted.

and blocking food from entering. israeli officials denied it. saying this is, this perception has been deeply damaging to them. and yet, once again, the biden administration gave israel the benefit of the doubt. and here we are. the israeli military has essentially timed its choke hold on the north and began severing from the rest of gaza. the areas people are being pushed into the area, these people are being pushed into aren't any safer. just days after the election, the u.n. published a detailed report accusing israel of war crimes. 30% men, 26% women and the largest group killed by israeli forces shockingly 44% are children. the ages of these children that have been killed, any where between newborn babies to teenagers. the report points to statements

by israeli officials calling for the elimination of palestinians. the ár that we must not shy away from. of severe epidemics has warned as difficult as that may be. then israel's publicly agree with this statement. these examples are just a few over the past year there have been dozens of calls for more destruction pushing for the resettlement of gaza with the israelis by forcing out and decimating the population. listen to what the u.n. human rights chief said in light of this report. >> i have repeatedly warned about the risk of war crimes to

be committed. the report raises concerns about the actions of these early defense forces with respect to forcible transfer, attacks on hospitals. in apparent systemic fashion and journalists. it also points to the use of phosphorous. under scored the international obligations of israel to prevent, protect against and punish acts of genocide and associated prohibited conduct. it is essential, that there is due reckoning with respect to the allegations of serious violations of international law. is there really a chance for this reckoning. not from the u.s. especially with trump reentering office. and netanyahu hadn 't just been

using the u.s. election as cover. on election day itself, netanyahu replaced his hard line defense minister with israel cat. someone even more willing to do his business in gaza. then two days after that came pheuz most bold move. once a leader of the u.s. defense league. there's also a settler leader and advocates for expanded settlement. with mounting evidence of mounting war crimes and even genocide, the return of peace seems father away with people like these returning to power.

before the break i was talking about what we missed in gaza during the election and the devastating findings from a new united nations report

earlier today i spoke to damon the founder of the international network for aid, relief and assistance who is on the ground inside gaza. damon is also now the director of seize the summit. a film that captures the story of four war refugees climbing mount kilamanjaro. with us now is damon. you posted earlier about what you had witnessed at the aluxa hospital. tell us what you have seen since you've been back. what are the conditions at the hospital and do things feel worse since the last time you were in gaza? >> significantly worse. that's hard to comprehend because every time i come back and this is my fourth time in. there's no way this can become

more ratchet than it already has and it does. we're nearing the end of that 30 day deadline that the u.s. had given israel to improve the humanitarian or face some sort of restriction on military aid. what we have seen since then is a severely deteriorating situation. there's arguably less humanitarian aid entering the strip than ever before. on top of that commercial trade has also been heavily restricted which means that, for organizations like mine and others we used to be able to sort of back fill up to a certain degree by purchasing from the local market from traders. that obvious doesn't even exist for us anymore. not to mention what's happening up north where there has been absolutely no humanitarian or any other sort of assistance where there are ongoing strikes on a regular basis. where ambulances and rescue

workers aren't even able to reach the injured. it's absolutely mind boggling i. defies logic once you see this on a daily basis. >> you mentioned the north of gaza. there's been a lot of attention on what has happened there in the north. particularly since it took place against the backdrop of a very heated election season in america where the north was not getting enough international attention in recent days. the military says that residents would not be allowed back into northern gaza. some saw that as an ambition of the ethnic cleansic of the northern part of gaza. many have been pushed further south into gaza which doesn't seem safer. do we know if this could happen in other areas in gaza as well? >> when you speak to gazans they will tell you there are and were being ethnically cleansed from the get go. and that israel was kpwoeupbg to use october 7th as an excuse

to take over all of or the majority of the gaza strip. i mean, talk to anyone here and there's absolutely no doubt in their mind that they are facing their own e xtermination whether by bomb or disease or starvation. and when we look at what's happening in the north, there are great fears that this is in fact, the so called general's plan, this plan to force people out of huge swaths of gaza and push them into other areas. what we're seeing in the north, is people moving or trying to move from there into gaza city. we're not seeing a huge amount of movement from gaza city further south because people are absolutely terrified of crossing the israeli check points that exist along the main road there. they are, and there have been numerous reports of people being you know shot at as they've been trying to flee. and there's also this sense of, well, we're going to get killed any way. so we might as well try and stay as close to our home as

possible. because no matter what we do we're not going to be able to save ourselves. >> i'm sure you saw this report released on saturday. reporting how most of those killed are children. your organization treats children in gaza. what were you thoughts about those findings compared to what you actually see and what your workers and aid workers see on the ground day in and day out. were they even surprising to you based on what you have seen? >> it's tragically not surprising. because if we just look at sort of the population here. the vast majority of the population in gaza is under the age of 18. and these strikes are not despite what it is that israel says, simply targeting you know hamas fighters. you have entire buildings that

come down. you have 2,000-pound bombs. you have strikes on schools where people are sheltering. you have strikes on markets. you have strikes on the camps that are housing the displaced. and when you go into the hospital, you know you see bed after bed of children who have been injured. you mentioned i was in, we met kids who had been pulled from underneath the rubble more than once. there are children who are in the icu there who's lives are not being saved because there's still this severe lack of medical equipment. of basic pieces of medical equipment. there are children who are just moaning in agony who's parents are unable to provide them with any sort of relief because, what is needed here simply does not exist. not to mention, that you know medical evacuation is effectively more or less nonexistent. you have on average since israel help closed launch the rafa invasion and closed off the rafa border crossing with

egypt. less than one child a day who was able to be medically evacuated from gaza. it's this horrific situation where people are not only dying again as i was saying again from the bombs but are also dying because they're not getting the treatment they need. we still have these scenarios where injuries are becoming infected. and sepsis is setting in which is dangerous. you have burn injuries doctors are unable to clean often enough that when they undo the bandages, maggots are falling out. it's unimaginable. they often get called resilient but people here don't like that word because their current being is not their choice. they don't want to be in this situation that they have to be

resilient. and it also implies they can handle whatever is thrown at them. they don't have a choice. you get the sense that people are mentally, fallly exhausting. it is the type of exhaustion that is. they try to not allow too much emotion to rise up. there's a real sense that if they do crack even in the slightest way they will break completely. if they break completely they won't be able to go on. but i have never in my entire 20 years working in war zones seen this level of psychological obliteration across an entire population. >> yeah, it is a stain on humanity.

as more and more human say unconscionable for more than a year. thank you so much, please stay safe and keep up the important and critical work you are doing, thank you. big blue cities across america including new york city saw republican gains this election. we're going to try to make sense of that. that and more, next. giving that's possible through the power of dell ai with intel. so those who receive can find the joy of giving back. ♪ [♪ that's the glory of love. ♪] only purple's gel flex grid passes the raw egg test. no other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. ♪ memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed. save up to $1,000 during our blackfriday sale. visit purple.com or a store near you.

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a new york city, a deeply blue stronghold. donald trump gained nearly 100,000 new voters than he did in 2020. nearly 600,000 fewer new yorkers turned out for harris than they did for joe biden. so what is going on here? local reports say voters pointed to three issues, crime, immigration and the economy. these numbers might look surprising but they didn't come out of nowhere. we saw a slight red shift in

the 2023 midterm. with many blaming postpandemic pain. the same issues were at play. crime in new york city is lower than voters think it is, but fear mongering persists. they try to look at crime than pointing to credible data. this wasn't just about crime. the same tactic is for immigration and inflation. for those who didn't vote. speculation points to disillusionment with gaza. joins us now to discuss this is mandani who's also running for mayor against the incumbent eric adams. it's great to have you with us, nice to meet you in person. let me get your thoughts on

what was tweeted out. with absurdities like defund the police, from the river to the sea or latin x. i want to give you a chance to the respond from someone who's a democratic party here. >> i think he had that in the drafts of his twitter long before this election and wanted an opportunity to confirm his prior sentiments. what i found instead today spending the day in hillside avenue in queens and in the bronx, two areas that saw the strongest shifts toward donald trump and even larger numbers of voters who just didn't turn out at all. voters were primarily motivated by the economy and despair of continued genocide in gaza. >> how does new york begin to change that. your constituency is in new york. in queens. it had some of the sharpest shifts to the red. what is it that you think should be done at this level to address these issues? >> i think what we have to do

is the bare minimum which is the fact that they're real. they didn't see the pain of their day-to-day lives on that ballot. they didn't see it in the democratic party. we have to understand that while tuesday is being seen as a referendum on the economy. it's not just a national issue. it's also here locally. eric adams has taken every opportunity and has blamed immigrants and asylum seekers that we can destroy the city. if we can see that from the bully pulpit it's no surprise that we can see these kind of shifts take on the five boroughs. >> you mention that new york city even though it is a city position. it's probably the high profile mayoral position any where in the world. i'm going to come to that in just a second. let me put a final point on the presidential election. 600,000 people less turned out for the vice president in new york city.

how do you explain that in a very strong blue city? >> i think it's a symptom of despair. what we've seen as much as we try and tell people that this is a strong economy, that unemployment is low. more than half of all new yorkers give the majority of their paycheck to a landlord of bank. 500,000 of our children can't even afford food to eat. all of this amidst a rising cost of housing. they have to see a way to rectify it or they will stay home. >> there is this debate within the democratic party as to whether or not the party has shifted too far to the left. it needs to come back to the center. others are saying no, you need to actually move to the left on economic populous positions. things that are add sro crated

by people like bernie sanders. where do you come down on this debate and what it means for new york. you definitely have a very strong working class base and you also have wall street and the financial capital of the world here in new york. >> i think the problem is that a new york city the democratic party is more closely associated with wall street than it is the working class. you know we see nationally, 70% of americans think that the economic system is rigged by special interests. if we do not name those special interests, those institutions that are benefits from this moment we leave the door open to someone like donald trump blaming individuals instead. immigrants and asylum seekers. i think what americans deserve is a politics that centers the works class. it's why in this run for mayor that i begun about two weeks ago we have launched with a way to the race. to make universal child care a

reality for every new yorker at no cost to them. no matter if their child is six weeks or five years of age. >> how do you pay for that. with a city with broken roads. the subway is not working. it does not feel safe to people. the perception of safety and the reality of safety. new york is the biggest city and the safest. >> because the mayor keeps telling people it isn't safe. we will continue to lose new yorkers because of the very crisis and cost of living that's taking place across the city. >> it's a pleasure to speak to you. i look forward to speaking to you many more times as this race heats up.

>> thank you so much for having me. if you're more interested on this race check us out. >> thank you, appreciate it. thank you for catching aymon this weekend. may sure to catch us. you can also follow us on x and instagram at aymanmnsnbc. until we meet again. bc. until we meet again.

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