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right now on msnbc, the second trump white house taking shape. president-elect tapping a key house ally as his first cabinet pick. who's in and who's out in his new administration? plus with lawmakers heading back to washington, house control still up for grabs as republicans inch closer to pulling off a trifecta. democrats hoping there are just enough votes to put them in the driver's cease. a historic drought fueling
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wildfires while the east coast battles flames of their own. the latest on containment efforts. ♪♪ good morning, it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart in for ana cabrera this veterans day. we begin with president-elect trump. beginning to fill out his list of white house hires. his first official cabinet pick, republican congresswoman elise stefanik, for u.s. ambassador to the united nations. trump has also filled perhaps the most high profile and divisive post in his administration, the so-called border czar, who will oversee his mass deportation plans. that goes to tom homan, a border hard liner who previously served as trump's acting director of immigration, and customs enforcement. trump filling these positions ahead of his wednesday transition meeting at the white house with president biden. a meeting that never happened in 2020 when the two leaders roles
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were reversed. nbc niece vaughn hillyard is in west palm beach covering the trump transition and our gabe gutierrez is at the white house. vaughn, trump has made his first cabinet pick that will require senate confirmation. elise stefanik, what do we know about her? >> reporter: elise stefanik, she was not only an impeachment defender of his in 2019 on capitol hill, but ever since over the last fiver years, she has remained a staunch ally and defender of donald trump appearing on the campaign trail with him. she in 2020, won, objected on january 6th to the election results in the u.s. house. she is somebody, though, who became a close ally of his when she took over for liz cheney as the house gop conference chair. she elevated her voice within the republican caucus, and at this moment, there were conversations even initially about whether she would potentially play the role of his vice presidential pick. her name dropped off the short
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list over the summer, but clearly as the first selection of his out of the gate to join his cabinet and administration, this is a clear head nod to elise stefanik in the role she would play in this administration. of course you'll recall eight years ago, the selection of the u.n. ambassador was nikki haley. clearly somebody he has confidence in serving in that capacity after five years in which she remained close by his side, defender, especially on the tv air waves. >> and vaughn, what can we tell about tom homan and this border czar role that he's going to have? >> reporter: tom homan is, again, somebody who has been very outspoken over the course of the last several years appearing on the campaign trail with donald trump as well. he served as the acting i.c.e. director during his first administration, and he was at the forefront of the family separation policy that separated more than 5,000 kids from their
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families. the department of homeland security's latest number says that there are still 1,300 kids who have yet to be reconnected with their families. he is somebody who has not shied away, even in the years since from that policy saying that the responsibility lies with the families, that if they do not want to be separated from their children, they should not break the law by coming into the united states in the first place. he was a contributor. one of those authors, as part of the heritage foundation's project 2025 plan, but he has remained a vocal staunch defender of his actions during the first trump administration, and now for donald trump, who has promised to implement a mass deportation program, the largest deportation program in the last 60 years, he's turning to tom homan, ready to enact that, starting with criminals inside the united states and moving forward from there, jose. >> meanwhile, president biden
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and president-elect trump are going to have their meeting at the white house on wednesday. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: good morning, yes, it is a highly anticipated meeting, and we don't have a whole lot of details yet on how it will unfold. but as you mentioned, this comes four years after then president trump did not extend the same courtesy to biden after he had just won the election. but back in 2016, you'll remember, jose, that it was president obama who did welcome trump to the white house. they had a lengthy meeting in the oval office, around 90 minutes. it was longer than scheduled. now, just over the weekend, president biden was asked whether he thought that president-elect trump was still a threat to democracy. the president in rehoboth beach over the weekend said that he was planning to meet with him on wednesday. again, we're awaiting details of that meeting, and it will occur just about a day or so before president biden is scheduled to go to peru for the apex summit
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after he meets with the president-elect here at the white house, jose. >> gabe gutierrez, and vaughn hillyard, thank you both so very much. joining us now, msnbc political analyst, and former secretary of housing and urban development, julian castro. tom homan was on fox, and also on '60 minutes," talking about what this deportation effort could look like. take a listen to this. >> i've seen some of these democratic governors say they're going to stand in the way, make it hard for us, a suggestion, if you're not going to help us, get the hell out of the way because we're going to do it. if we can't get assistance from new york city and we may have to double the number of agents we send in new york city because we're going to do the job. >> is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? >> of course there is.
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families can be deported together. >> julian, how do you see this? and realistically, how much of this do you think could actually be carried out? >> well, this is a guy who was the architect of family separation. the former acting i.c.e. director. this time he comes back with even more experience in these years to gathering more cruel ideas, and also, i think, more of a green light from donald trump. and less people around him who were there to stop the worst impulses that he and donald trump have. also let's add people like stephen miller. this is a very experienced crew. you can tell from the sound bites, this a guy with a cowboy attitude that constantly dehumanizes people who are simply seeking a better life in the united states, and it's particularly disturbing that he does that with children, you know, who are not making a decision about whether to come here or not. now, it is going to be more possible for them to get things
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done. i think in this administration, at least at the outset, they have said that from the beginning they're going to try and initiate the largest deportation effort. they have a supreme court that is more willing, i think, to go along with the administrative actions on their part, and so it's going to require a lot of pushback. and at the same time, there's a danger in the american population that there's fatigue from resisting and pushing back. so these first couple of weeks, i think, are going to be crucial to see whether there's going to be that sufficient pushback and will to stop what would be a very cruel exercise in federal policy, and i think ultimately, decimate the american economy if it's carried out. >> and, maura, there's the reality, the political reality that with the election of donald trump a significant number of
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voters supported what trump was promising. i mean, this deportation plan was among trump's main campaign promises. what are the political risks, whether he carries this out or not? >> you also did get a large portion of the latino vote. it's important to remember, there are concerns, when we talk about humane treatment of human beings and people who emigrate here. both of my grandfathers emigrated here to seek a better life. when you talk about it from a humane aspect, the land of hope and opportunity, we can only be that with law and order. we have a crisis at the border. when you have people who are committing crimes, they should be deported. right? so i think that that was a pretty general sense among the population that that was a common sense reaction and a proposal to put forward. i think it's, like you both said, it will take time to see what really pans out as far as some of the more extreme things that tom homan has said. i am hopeful that step one will
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be to, you know, deport those that have committed crimes, as far as murder and things of that nature, and then move forward from there with a more pragmatic approach to how we handle our border security. >> yeah, but, i mean, the fact of the matter is that if you just look at numbers, and let's look at it from a cold perspective, not taking a political position at all. if you're talking about creating the largest deportation force in american history and you're talking about deporting the criminals, the rapists and murderers, the numbers there would not seem to match. in other words, i don't think there's anybody who says that if you are a criminal in the united states and that you do not have the legal standing to be here, then you should be prosecuted and deported. but jailed as well. it's just what you do going
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after that process. and maura, i think that when you're talking about the largest deportation force in history, that seems to imply more than just x amount of thousands of people who are criminals. >> and i don't disagree with you. i think that rhetoric isn't helpful, and it gives us a more dark and damming look at the future, but when you're talking about those who have been imprisoned or did get arrested for murders they committed we have seen several cases come out that they were released. because border security has been so overwhelmed, we need to reassess the situation and the biden administration was too slow to do that in a large way, and maybe they didn't have the resources but realistically, the country voted because they felt as though both economically, but safety, was a concern of theirs, and i do think the rhetoric being used isn't helpful. we don't need to make blanket statements about an entire population of people. i think that the concerns were,
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again, expressed on election day, that this is a concern that people have and needs to be addressed by our administration. whoever is in power. put our security as a focus. >> and, julian, commenting on this this morning, you know, this is something that you have been talking about for years. and i just think of your participation in the debates in 2020. i mean, the issue, right, of migration, immigration, comprehensive immigration reform, there are so many different parts to this picture, and i'm just wondering, julio, where is this that people just got it wrong? it's such a surprise for so many these decisions of voters this last election, you have been talking about it forever, where did people just not hear this?
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>> i mean, you look at the progression, mitt romney, one of the 2012 republican debates gets laughed off the stage, essentially, or maybe it was 2008, self-deportation. you go from that to in 2024, in those 15, 16 years, basically donald trump espousing mass deportation of millions and millions of people, many of whom have been here and have been law-abiding since they got here, and folks are saying that's suddenly okay. i don't think that the american public is going to respond well if mass deportation actually starts happening. in other words, on paper versus the reality of it, familiesing with separated, you know, children being sent to camps before they're sent to a country they didn't even know. the reality of mass deportation is that it would be ugly. it would be cruel. i don't think the american
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public would support it ultimately, but it's a policy that is a lot easier to swallow in theory than it is in practice. part of this is not just the cruelty and the xenophobia of donald trump, it's also the democrats did not push back sufficiently, especially over biden's term, and i've said this many times, you don't go from where we were to where we are unless basically trump had a megaphone to just keep talking and talking and talking and persuading and persuading without any significant pushback from the other side. that needs to change. >> congresswoman stefanik will be serving in the post nikki haley upheld in the first trump administration. over the weekend, trump said he is not offering haley a spot in the administration or mike pompeo, what's the message trump is send something. >> he's getting a lot of influence from elon musk, tulsi gabbard, rfk jr., very vocal
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about not wanting to be involved in what's happening in other countries. he was sending a message, one, that he heard them, and was going to make sure that pompeo and haley weren't part of his administration but also, i mean, think about what haley said about him during the republican primary for the nomination to be president. she said a lot of things that donald trump does not forget, and he has said time and again that loyalty is his number one credential and requirement for any positions he posts, and while i think for a lot of us that gives us cause for concern, i think that we have to give it some time, and there will be a referendum in two years, where voters can say whether they liked the first two years or not. we have checks and balances. i think it's important to keep some of that in mind as we share concerns about the rhetoric being used and some of the promises he has made. he's not always going to follow through on them. again, i just think that some of these appointments or some of
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these names being floated maybe will get through or, you know, maybe they're just being said to appease some people on the far right. >> former hud secretary julian castro, and maura gillespie, thank you very much. we appreciate it. when we are back in 90 seconds. control of the house is up in the air. how many races remain uncalled as president-elect trump weighs in on the gop senate leadership battle. new details about an iranian plot to kill donald trump. and where containment efforts stand this morning as wildfires torched thousands of acres on both coasts. >> you know mother nature, it doesn't always cooperate or she doesn't always cooperate with what we need all the time. soft? bounce can't do it all but for better laundry, ♪ put a sheet on it with bounce. ♪ how do you keep your teeth so white with all the coffee you drink? my secret lumineux whitening strips.
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17 past the hour. nearly one week after election day, it's still not clear which party will control the house. 17 races have yet seats to secure a majority after winning the white house and control of the senate. democrats need 13 to take control. over the weekend, nbc news projected donald trump won arizona's presidential race, concluding a full sweep of all seven battleground states and a total of 312 electoral college votes, more than he got in 2016. the most any candidate has
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gotten since obama in 2012. joining us now from capitol hill is nbc's ryan nobles. good morning, 17 house races still outstanding. what the heck is going on? >> reporter: well, some of these states are still counting their votes, jose, is what it comes down to. arizona and california, in particular, and there were a number of battlegrounds in the race for the house where those contests were being waged in states like that. right now it's really the republicans' majority to lose. they have the advantage, as you rightly point out. they only have five seats to get to the magic number of 218, and there are more seats that are in their column right now that there are seats in the democratic column. that's not to say that we're ready to call this race. there's a real possibility that democrats could run the table and surprise us. it looks like republicans will maintain the majority. it's important to point out, jose, it's not going to be very different than what it was before. republicans had a slim majority. it made it very difficult for them to govern in the last
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congress. it looks like a similar situation when the dust is settled here. >> and, ryan, another big race this week to replace mitch mcconnell as republican senate leader, and now president-elect trump is weighing in, demanding that the next majority leader agree to recess appointments, leadership elections are currently set for wednesday. how much of an impact could trump have on this race? >> to be very frank about this, jose. donald trump can pick the next senate majority leader if he chooses. his grip on the party now is absolute. if he were to come out and make a public endorsement of one of the three candidates or even someone we're not thinking about, that person would likely be the next senate majority leader. this is a private ballot. so far trump has resisted the urge to publicly endorse one of the three candidates, john thune, john cornyn or rick scott of florida. rick scott is trying to wage a campaign on the internet. he has a number of conservative influencers, tucker carlson who has come out and endorsed his campaign, saying he's the most
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maga, and would be the most loyal to trump. john thune and john cornyn said they are ready to work for trump. they believe he won this election, and his agenda should be pushed forward. we'll have to see how this all plays out. at this point it's anyone's race, and it would be very difficult to predict how the votes are cast. jose. >> what's all of this focus on recess appointments. why the importance of that? >> this is essentially the president, president-elect, demanding a very swift appointment of his cabinet posts. in the past, he ran into issues getting some of his cabinet officials, senate confirmable. they got the votes to get over the finish line. while there's no doubt more republicans than there were then, there are still some republicans that may be uncomfortable with maybe more of his controversial picks. this is why he's suggesting they go the recess appointment route, which basically allows him to install a cabinet official when
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the senate is not in session. and that person gets the rights and privileges affords a member of the cabinet. but this has been very controversial. in the past, the senate has rejected this. there was a fight over this during the obama administration, and the supreme court weighed in. it's unclear right now if he'll need to go that route. it could be an indication of some of the folks he may want to appoint to some of these high level cabinet positions. >> ryan nobles on capitol hill. thank you, my friend. appreciate it. ahead, warnings of a new russian counter offensive over key territory ukraine seized over the summer. but first, thousands of acres scorched coast to coast, as firefighters from california to new jersey fight to contain wildfires. >> it's like trying to put a blow torch out with a squirt gun. look at this craftmanship. i mean they even got my nostrils right. it's just nice to know that years after i'm gone this guy will be standing the test of ti... he's melting!
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26 past the hour. firefighters on both coasts battling dangerous blazes, fueled by high winds out west, and dry conditions in the east. in california, a massive wildfire has torched more than 20,000 acres and burned over 130 buildings since igniting last week. in the northeast, a series of fires broke out in new york and new jersey, killing one new york state parks worker. joining us now, nbc's george solis from ringwood, new jersey, and david griffin from camarillo, california, george, how are the conditions there where you are? >> reporter: jose, conditions still very dry out here. you can hear it in the leaves
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that are out here. the good news is that rain did fall in this region, about a quarter inch, according to fire officials, which has been a tremendous help in getting these crews a break as officials have said here, her running ragged. since october 1st, there have been more than 500 wildfires they have responded to. that is 500 more in the same period this time last year. remarkable when you think about it. and again, that rain, while very much helpful, really doesn't move the needle a whole lot. the dryness out here is so apparent that they really didn't count on this really making too much of a difference. they expect the cleanup here to still take about a week, as they try to contain the jennings creek wildfire, at this point, is burning about 3,000 acres. it's about 10% contained. that fire resulting in a fatality here, in new york's parks ranger dying while trying to clear some of the debris, tree falling on them. that is make the situation that much harder for first responders and firefighters out here trying to make sure the fire doesn't
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spread, knowing they have lost one of their own. again, the messaging from officials here, of course, do not burn anything, keep conditions clear from your home with all of this dry, just kind ling, if you will. this is fuel for the fire to keep burning. they're hoping with that little bit of rain and rest, they can continue that effort in trying to make sure this fire does not continue spreading, jose. >> george solis, thank you very much. and meanwhile, what are the conditions for firefighters in california today? >> reporter: yeah, jose, a lot better than what we're seeing on the east coast. firefighters made some significant progress over the weekend. the fire here now 31% contained. that is a huge number for people when you think about containment. right now, there are no active major flames. these are some of the images just from last week showing the height of the storm. firefighters, however, are recounting what that fire fight was like for them. one spokesperson for the ventura
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county fire department tells me that this fire was almost like trying to put out a blow torch when the squirt gun, and these whipping winds were so fierce, it sent embers flying 2 1/2 miles away. that's why you've got homes like the one you see behind me, burned to the ground. the next door neighbors, those two homes are standing. they call that a dirty burn because the fire didn't move through in a wave. it was so sporadic because of all the embers that flew around. we have homeowners returning, trying to sift through the rubble, trying to find family heirlooms. one woman had firefighters in her bedroom trying to find a precious heirloom. she's so grateful her family escaped alive. listen to what she told me. >> one neighbor was leaving. i didn't know it was evacuate. she called and said, go, you got to get out of here, and her place is gone. i remember through the years
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floods, hurricanes, whatever, and i've wondered, what would you do if everything you had was gone. well, now i'm finding out. >> reporter: and jose, surprisingly, she's got such a great attitude. she said that she's still so grateful and so thankful. she describes herself as being blessed even though she's lost everything. we have heard that sentiment from several other families. the big concern, however, this woke is another santa ana wind event is projected for wednesday. fire officials are warning people for now to pack up important documents and medications and be prepared to evacuate immediately, if called upon. jose? >> watching, you know, right behind you, a house, at one time, breaks your heart. so many people affected. dana, thank you very much. up next, who can help russia retake land after a surprise ukrainian offensive. what kyiv is watching out for. plus, new israeli strikes
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kers k region. it was the largest drone attack since the conflict began in 2022. joining us now from nbc's international correspondent meagan fitzgerald. it's great seeing you. what's the latest on russia's efforts there to retake parts of the kursk region? >> reporter: well, jose, look, you know, we're hearing from the commander in chief of the ukrainian armed forces, and he says that it really can't be overstated, the mission at task for the men and women that are trying to hold the front line in ukraine, trying to keep russia from moving deeper into that region. he also went on to say that, you know, the steadfastness of these men and women that are on the front line is the reason why russia has not been able to storm through and seize that entire region there. we know, according to president zelenskyy, that some 50,000 troops, russian troops, have amassed along the front line there. so make no mistake about it, this is fierce fighting that is going on in this region as
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ukraine continues to try and fight to preserve as much land as they possibly can. >> and, megan, "the washington post" reported that president-elect trump and putin have their first meeting since the election. the trump campaign would not comment. the kremlin says that call did not happen. how closely are people in europe and ukrainians watching any interaction between trump and putin? >> reporter: i mean, it's top of mind. i mean, it's incredibly important. it's certainly something that the ukrainians are watching closely. we know that president-elect trump has touted his close relationship, his good relationship with vladimir putin. he's called putin's invasion of ukraine pretty smart. he has criticized america's contributions to ukraine, calling zelenskyy the greatest salesman on earth. so, you know, there's a lot of things that are up in the air: we don't know how trump and his
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administration is going to be handling the war in ukraine. will they take away money? i mean, this, we're talking about a country that relies enormously upon the funding from the united states, and so we're watching closely to see what changes when trump takes office in january, and how that will impact this war in ukraine, as the ukrainians are fighting every day for their freedom. jose. >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you so much. after more than a year of failed attempts towards a prolonged cease fire. qatar says it's suspending its mediation efforts between israel and hamas. a diplomatic source briefed on the matter tells nbc news the decision was based on a lack of willingness from both sides to engage constructively towards a deal. the news comes as a brand new report from the united nations details the devastating impact israel's war in gaza has had on women and children. joining us now from tel aviv is nbc's raf sanchez.
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what's the latest? so the deal or attempted deal for any cease fire is essentially off? >> reporter: it's certainly in limbo, jose. there was a feeling here in the middle east everyone was waiting for the american election to see how it would pan out before making any big moves. you have an israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who is absolutely thrilled that donald trump has won that election. he says he has spoken to the president-elect three times since the election. that is more than any world leader that we know of. and it seems pretty unlikely at this point that netanyahu is going to make a deal until the trump administration comes into power. and, jose, as we have talked about many many times, qatar has been the key mediator between israel and hamas for more than a year now. at this point, they are saying they are stepping back from that role. they did they do not detect any seriousness on behalf of either
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israel or hamas about getting to an agreement. netanyahu, you might remember on the day of the election fired his defense minister. that was a seriously controversial move here in israel. on his last day in office, that defense minister met with the families of israeli hostages and two sources familiar with na meeting says he told him israel has no military reason to stay in gaza, and he his and military leaders have been unable to convince netanyahu to make a deal to bring the hostages home. jake sullivan, the president national security adviser was speaking, saying it is hamas, not israel, who's the major obstacle towards a deal. now, you mentioned this new report from the united nations. it finds that of the verified deaths inside of gaza from the first six months of the war, 70%
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of them were women and children. it says the majority were killed in their homes or other residential buildings. it is calling this a systematic violation by israel of the rules of war. now, israel is rejecting the methodology behind this report. they say hamas conceals the deaths of its fighters, which makes it very difficult to calculate these percentages. according to the israeli government, around 20,000 civilians have died in gaza, which is a huge number. but they say a similar number of palestinian militants have also been killed. jose. >> raf sanchez, thank you. next, charges in the iranian assassination plot against president-elect trump. what we know about the scheme. plus, in july, prosecutors announced plea deals for the alleged 9/11 coconspirators. it's coconspirators that would let them avoid the death
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joining us now, nbc's ken dilanian and frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence and an msnbc national security analyst. what more do we know about these charges? >> reporter: jose, this was an absolutely brazen plot, according to this criminal complaint. it says an unnamed member of iran's revolutionary guard corps, tasked one of the agents with orchestrating this assassination plot on october 7th and ordered him to carry this out within ten days. this person charged in the complaint was in iran but working with a network of criminals he had met while he served in u.s. prison, and asked these people to participate. they were already surveilling and stalking a brooklyn journalist, a dissident, the subject of other iranian plots against her life, and iran essentially directed them to go after trump. this iranian talked to the fbi
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and said he never intended to carry the plot out. he's nonetheless charged with murder for hire and other charges as are the two americans who are in custody. and remember, jose, this is the second plot that the justice department has rolled out, charging iranians with trying to kill donald trump. the first one we reported on in july. it's totally separate. it's pretty clear, according to the doj, the government of iran had donald trump in their sights. they thought trump would lose the election, and he would be able to go after him after the election, when the security was less. that didn't come to pass. amazing charges here, jose. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. frank, let's try to figure out exactly what's going on. it seems to me, this is not a one-off. when you look at the details, how one of the men charged spoke to federal agents five times
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because he wanted to get a sentence reduction for someone else who's currently in prison. wondering, what does all of this tell you? >> well, people need to understand, this is not merely an aspirational vision of iran's leadership to take out donald trump. they were prepared to execute on this. they want to get it done, and that's not going to stop moving forward, which is going to make the secret service's job extremely difficult. and as ken said, this isn't just the second attempt on donald trump. we need to look at this very outspoken iranian dissident in brooklyn who almost got killed. this is the third known attempt of the iranians to kill her. and it was a near miss. the fbi had to go to a university in connecticut, fairfield university, and tell them, look, i know you've got this scheduled speaker, but we think she might be assassinated and could you postpone the talk. they did. she was clearly under surveillance, and iran was willing to pay them over a million dollars to kill her. so what do we take from this?
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first, we still have an fbi who is going to thwart assassination attempts that try to suppress free speech here. an fbi and doj willing to investigate and prosecute attempts to kill even a political opponent of the current president in the white house. we hope we can keep that because this was an incredibly great job by law enforcement. >> you know, frank, i mean, and obviously throughout history there have been, you know, foreign involvement in assassinations of leaders throughout the world. many times the united states has been behind some of that. but in recent times, has there been a more crass, obvious assassination mission against a president or a former president of the united states of america by a country, a regime like
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iran? >> no, this idea of a state-sponsored, repeated state-sponsored attempts to assassination a president or incoming president is truly unprecedented, and particularly when you throw in the fact that the irgc, islamic revolutionary guard corps has the capability to do it. means moving forward. we have continuing threat against the leadership of the united states, and continuing threat against free speech if there are iranian dissents here who continue to speak out against the regime. >> frank figliuzzi, thank you very much. it's good to see you, my friend. appreciate it. >> and now to new developments in the long stalled cases against three 9/11 coconspirators. the pentagon plans to appeal a military judge's ruling that defense secretary lloyd austin did not have the power to throw out plea deals. prosecutors announced plea deals that would allow the coconspirators to plead guilty to the lesser charges and death
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penalty. after backlash, new york firefighters and some republican lawmakers, secretary austin said he would withdraw the deal. a military judge found that austin did not have the power to avoid agreements. joining us now, is nbc's courtney kube. great seeing you. so much back and forth in this case. what is it, as of right now, that case stands and then what is going to happen going forward? >> yeah, i mean, you can say that again. this has been a dizzying back and forth between the prosecution and then that shocking move by secretary of defense lloyd austin over the summer to essentially invalidate the plea deals that had been agreed to by these detainees, 9/11 coconspirators, not only could the plea deals no longer go forward after they were agreed to but the judge for the military commissions process, known as the convening authority also could no longer be a part of that plea agreement. well, the court in another
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dizzying change has reversed that saying secretary austin was outside his authority, worked in an improper fashion and the timing was improper to make that decision, reversed it again. now, again, jose, we have another change. we have just learned, only moments ago that, in fact, the prosecution has requested that the military commission or the court delay any further talk about the plea deals, these plea agreements in open session. now we had expected that to happen as early as this week or potentially next week. there are proceedings that are scheduled. the judge has also said that the discussions next week, the hearings next week are now canceled, that now they will hear some sort of a plea deal or agreement sometime in december or january, the date has not yet been set. what is clear is that there will continue to be some sessions this week, most likely the court will hear from a mental health professional for a couple of
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days this woke. and then it seems that the court will maybe potentially set the next date for the plea agreements. but it will not happen this week or next week, again, a dizzying back and forth, about what will happen, near the big question underlying all of this, jose, there will be a new administration in january. will any of this be decides before then? that remains to be seen, jose. >> courtney kube, thank you, and stay with us, if you would, courtney, right now, we have our eyes on arlington national cemetery where president biden is laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier to mark veterans day. we'll of course take you there live. more on the trump transition, and how immigration lawyers are gearing up for a second trump administration. much more after a short break. don't go anywhere. or my dog, woof, who may look little but he eats big.
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