it looks like a choose your fighter screen where the only thing they're fighting is the arc of the moral universe. it looks like an advent calendar where every circle opens up to a tiny piece of literal [ bleep ]. >> john oliver blasting a list of key figured in the trump administration as comedians coming to grips with the realities of the 2024 election. ari will be back tomorrow. his guests include the top democrat in the house, congressman hakeem jeffries and james carville. that does it for me. be sure to catch the katie phang show saturdays at 12:00 p.m.

right here on msnbc. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> this behavior when there was an attempt on his life, you know, i was impressed. he's a courageous person. a person shows their true color in these emergencies. and this is precisely one of those cases, and i think he acquitted himself admirably. >> putin knowing that flattery will get you everywhere with trump, was quick to pivot to publicly humiliating the president-elect to show him and us who's the boss. also tonight, the truth about what went wrong for democrats. spoiler alert, it wasn't the fault of black men, indigenous americans or latino voters. plus, the gathering storm. trump prepares to let loose his most ruthless allies to carry

out a mass deportation that one particularly sadistic fox host said would be hysterical to watch. but we begin tonight with the ongoing saga of a russian oligarch that relates to our own politics right here in the usa. in june of 2009, in an event broadcast live on russian state television, vladimir putin, then the russian prime minister, walked into a factory in a town and humiliated his country's richest man inside a metals factory whose workers had been blocking the nearby roads to protest the lack of work and the closing aluminum factories of putin's faltering economy. with the cameras rolling, russia's autocrat in chief, accused oleg deripaska and two other russian businessman of selfishness and greed. he likened them to cockroaches. putin threatened to confiscate

their property unless they signed an agreement to supply new raw materials to the local factories to get the people working again. demanding to know, quote, why was everyone running around like cockroaches before my arrival. why was no one capable of taking decisions? as deripaska stared blankly. he said i do not see your signature, come here and sign it, putin said, throwing a pen dismissively on the table. deripaska, the once mightily oligarch, walked up to the premier's table, read the document covering raw material supplies to the factories and added his signature. after the meeting, workers cheered putin and shouted as he told them the problems at the plants had been resolved. putin's spokesman said the premier had been quite strict. ten years later in 2018, putin was president of russia for a second time after taking a

one-term break as prime minister, and donald trump was president of the united states. and the trump administration surprised congress including members of his own party when his treasury secretary, steve mnuchin, lifting sanctions on deripaska's company which had been sanctioned for it role in interfering in the 2017 election. trump was under investigation by special counsel robert mueller at the time, so the timing raised alarms among national security experts, and even among some republicans. but deripaska, who was no longer russia's richest man but still really really rich and influential had mounted an expensive lobbying campaign to get the sanctions removed and it worked with the putin friendly american president. fast forward to 2023, and deripaska's name came up again, when a former high ranking fbi agent who had investigated russian oligarchs while at the fbi retired and started working for one of them.

according to the associated press, he flipped his allegiance and started working to have deripaska's sanctions lifted in 2019. at one point, he even referred to him as the big guy. he also took money from him in 2021 to investigate a rival oligarch. at the time of the investigation, the fbi was also investigating donald trump's handling of classified documents. corruption, greed, raw power, crime, and humiliation. these are some of the core aspects of vladimir putin's rule and are common to autocratic governments. they're also core aspects of donald trump's political career. so it is worth noting that over the weekend, not long after vladimir putin congratulated trump on his election to be america's president again and lavished praise upon him after a four-year break to learn to accurately kwoed adolf hitler and refine his plans to dismantle american democracy on his second go round.

russian state tv promptly humiliated trump and his wife melania by airing images of her still googleable nude photos from her modeling days which was read by the national security experts of his way of showing the incoming president who is the boss. vladimir putin enjoys empowering and humiliating the oligarchs that he allows to operate in russia and his junior partners around the world. he did it to tucker carlson, mocking him after his cloying supermarket shopping spree and suck-up interview also on russia state tv. and when it comes to trump, it is not hard to conclude which leader is the big man in this coming relationship. trump and his top oligarch, elon musk, are both apparent frequent phone buddies with vlad. today is veterans day. the next veterans day, next year, the commander in chief

saluting the troops, if he chooses to do so, will be a man his own former generals called fascist to the core. generals he has said should be court marshalled or executed. one who stood beside him at the gravesite of his loved ones as trump called the injured men and women suckers and losers. the partner to the chief antagonist in the world and whose incoming team has warned ukraine they better start wrapping their minds aroundp handing over crimea and maybe other territory to russia since that's the peace deal trump intends to put in place once he's back in power next year. trump meanwhile is already making moves to carry out another common aspect of autocracy, subjugating the federal legislature. issuing a truth social command to the republican senators vying for leader by demainding their agree in advance to recess his

cabinet and approve no more biden judges to the federal courts. you can be sure all three aspiring republican leaders, john thune of south dakota, rick scott of florida, and john cornyn of texas, will all meekly promise to apply. less trump play the putin daddy ship forward by hmiliaing them to the cheers of his oligarchs and base. getting to know and understand what autocracy looks like is going to be real important for you in the coming years so you recognize the signs. these are some of the signs. joining me now is msnbc political contributor ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser in the obama administration. and ben, talk me down if you like. but it does seem to me that we're already seeing the signs of two things. the diminishment of the united states as a leading world power,

and the subordination of us essentially to russia, to vladimir putin. and donald trump in his own sort of secondary autocrat way, already starting to, you know, dethrone the equal and opposite member of governance, the legislature. your thoughts. >> yeah, joy, i think those two things are connected, because what's happening abroad is the united states is retreating from being the leader of this network of alliances, the leader on the set of values in the world, the kinds of things that make us support a country like ukraine. he's turning the united states into just another big country with a set of interests that is engaged in transactionalism with other governments. what putin is doing after that praise is he's trying to indicate to the world and the united states that he's not as hungry for this relationship as trump is. you know, when trump says he wants to end the war on day one, that's not what putin wants. he wants to continue to prosecute the war, he wants to

claim more territory. he sees an opening with trump coming into office and pledging to reduce support for ukraine, to take more territory so when this does get into a frozen conflict, he has more of ukraine to gobble up. i think the reason this is connected is the second thing you talked about is trump doesn't really care about that. he cares about his power here at home. and so he's not focused on what can he do around the world to support our allies, what can he do in places like ukraine to bring about a credible peace deal. he's interested in consolidating power here in the united states and he's following a very tried and true autocratic playbook. you want to make sure other branches of government are subservient to you. he already has the supreme court. if they're able to win the house, and of course, they won the senate, he'll want to make sure they have no independence of mind, those republican majorities. they're just doing his bidding. that's what he's focused on. >> you can see the pieces of that all falling into place. a man who is the leading sort of

potential next foreign minister, lord mandelson, has already said that the u.s. should maybe -- the uk -- sorry, not foreign minister, but u.s. ambassador, the front-runner to get the job of u.s. ambassador, has essentially said that we should rethink the special relationship, that maybe that's not the most important thing in the world. macron of france has said to europe, we need to become omnivores after the trump victory. europe can't be the world's herbivore anymore. you go over to the middle east, you're seeing qatar pull out of the negotiations for the supposed peace agreement that the biden administration was trying to get. you can see all around the world, if you're an expansionist autocratic type leader, like bibi netanyahu, like vladimir putin, like xi jinping, this would be the time, donald trump's leadership era would be your time to thrive, yeah?

>> that's right. this is maximum permission structure to do what you want to do. it's interesting, i know peter mendelson. he was in the blair administration. he supports a strong special relationship. this isn't like he's some guy who has always had this agenda. this is a realist, a rationalist saying we can't put our eggs in this basket anymore. we need to go the way of trying to consolidate and ironically given they did brexit, get closer to europe again. it's a dangerous world and we ned to hedge against the united states. we don't fully appreciate how much that's going to remake the global order. the russians are going to feel free reign around their borders and their countries like georgia and moldova, but they have also designs on along with ukraine. europeans will be making deals with whoever they think has the best offer. that means importantly, the chinese would love to peel off the europeans. we have been trying under joe biden to bring the europeans along in joining our restrictions on certain investments into china, certain

technologies going into china. they'll be making their own deals with the chinese because the chinese are a more reliable partner than the united states which is going to be unpredictable. so i think what we're going to witness is this movement of allies away from the united states, this further aggression from the russians. what i worry about is does that permission structure lead to more conflict? does china say this is a time to make a move on taiwan? does russia say this is time to make a move on a country other than ukraine. do autocrats say this is the time to cancel democracy. people see this as a window, does israel decide this is the time to annex the west bank? these are things that are on the table, joy. >> absolutely. i mean, i'm a bit obsessed with that, i talk about it all the time, but the c in brics is china, and the r is russia. there is an alternate collection of nations out there, if nigeria would to jump in, it would be

brincs, it would be a big alliance with a president who is mostly settling scores, mostly attacking migrants in our own country, potentially collapsing our economy by upending the agricultural, construction industries, and then throwing tariffs in. let's talk about our own region. mexico, they have a new woman president. some countries are capable of electing a woman president. and she's now going to have to deal with trump. what does that mean if he starts trying to do mass deportation and mexico is there saying we're not helping you do that? >> i think that there's a lot -- >> and the tariffs against them. >> there's a lot of warning signs for mexico because he could throw tariffs on goods that are being manufactured in mexico, in violation of the free trade agreement that he himself negotiated and heralded as his great achievement in his first term, and then the mass deportations will likely be returning huge numbers of people to mexico, including people,

some people who have never really lived there. that's going to be a huge burden. i'm sure he'll be threatening them to do certain things related to stopping people northward. the extreme version of this, joy, is that the republicans including trump have mused about even using military force in mexico against cartels and against smugglers. we have to kind of expand our horizon of what might be possible in the next four years because i do think this is going to be different than the first trump term. he's not going to have the same guardrails around him. we're in for a pretty bumpy ride between the united states and mexico. >> yeah, our face to the world apparently will be elise stefanik, not exactly somebody i think is looked at with great esteem around the world. but let's go right back to those tariffs again. pop quiz, who is our number one trading partner in the world? answer, mexico. they are our biggest trading partner in the world. if donald trump decides to create a hostile relationship

with their new administration, what happens to our economy? >> well, this is the important point. because i understand that there are a lot of people out there who are maybe hearing this conversation and saying, what's wrong with this? why not tell all these countries we don't want anything to do with them anymore? why not make life difficult for the mexicans? the reality the people who will pay a price for those things are americans. those are costs that are going to fall to the united states. if we're going to have mass deportation, what do you think the price of food is going to do? it's going to go up. who do you think is picking those crops in the boiling sun here where i am in california? we have to understand it might feel good to kind of tear up the wiring of globalization and seem to punish countries but we're really just going to be punishing ourselves. we're going to increase cost, cause social disruptions. you mentioned the brics, to the chinese going around the world and getting the critical minerals and supply chains they

need to develop clean energy or the russians to go around the world and sell oil, for all of those countries to move to a world where the dollar is not the center of the global financial system. these things are all in play here. a tariff is a tax you pay, the american consumer. somehow, that didn't get drawn out despite kamala harris' best efforts but people are about to find that out. >> yeah, the find out phase begins january 20th at noon. welcome to the maybe not so brave new world. always a pleasure. thank you so much. >> up next, hopefully we have all taken the time to decompress from last week, but now it's time to talk about what went wrong and debunk some of the misinformation out there. we'll be right back. k. he y, jackie! (♪♪) evan, my guy! you're helping them with savings, right? (♪♪) i wish i had someone like evan when i started. somebody just got their first debit card! ice cream on you?

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kumar, president and ceo of voter latino, and tom bonier, political strategist for target smart. tom, i want to start with you to go through some of the basics on the numbers. what we still have are exit polls. let me put up the big picture. donald trump won white voters overwhelmingly. 57/41. black voters, nope, didn't move. black men stayed exactly where they were before. asian americans still went majority harris, and people have been trying to say, oh, but the native americans went for trump, but they were like 1% of the electorate. it is white voters who really, really showed out for donald trump. and that, to me, is a story that is not being told in a fullsome enough way. they were 77% of the electorate when they were 67% of the electorate when donald trump ran in 2020. what happened in your view in

terms of the numbers? >> yeah, i'm happy to. and like you said, it's going to take time. we have to be patient to be able to understand the entire story of what happened. it takes a while to get all the vote history, to know who voted, and we'll be doing that work. from the data we had and what you just shared, if we want to point the finger at any group of any sector of the electorate that would be most responsible, frankly, it's people who look like me. it's gen x white men who were the strongest group for donald trump, and have been consistently. and yes, you see small movement in the electorate from other groups. you mentioned latino voters. undoubtedly, democrats need to invest more in communicating and reaching out to these voters. but in terms of who is responsible, we're pointing the finger in the wrong direction if we're looking at voters of color. >> and maria, i wanted to have you on, we talked about this

this weekend. there has been a super focus on latino men, and they did go, those who turned out, did go majority trump. but isn't the those who turned out part important? because what we saw is that trumpier people turned out in general. it was about 7% fewer democrats turned out than turned out in 2020 overall. it is just more trumpy latinos turned out. more cuban americans, people who like trump and listen to a lot of podcasts and right-wing radio. >> yeah, i think when the dust settles what we're going to see is the republicans did an effective job of turning out their base, including investing a lot in the latino voter. we saw this in 2022, to give you an example, in 2022, compared to 2020 -- 2018 in the midterm election, latino support on the democratic side fell 37%. there wasn't a turnout game. whereas on the republican side, there was. right now, we're experiencing a bit of an overindex on the

republican side. i remind folks we have roughly 10 million people who didn't show up this time that did in 2020. when the dust settles you'll see there just was not the ground game. there wasn't that constellation of voters being contacted by small independent grassroots organizations. i can tell you for a fact that we were fielding calls from local groups saying we don't have enough resources. when they said they didn't have enough resources, i'm talking about they didn't have $18,000 to put in calls. they didn't have $20,000 here for flyers. there was this idea that the campaign had it, and we were making the calls and saying, local groups are part of this ecosystem. why? because when that person that knocks on your door more than likely you're going to see them in church, you're going to run into them in the beauty salon, run into them at the gas station. it's going to be harder for you to say that you're not into listening if they're talking to you about the importance of these issues.

and so there really has to be a broader understanding and a broader respect for the grassroots organizer on the ground and there has to be a come to jesus moment with the democratic party. the concentration of decision making is not decentralized as it should be. if you want to take a message from the republican party, they decentralized their messages a lot. through podcasts, they decentralized it through churches to mick sure there was a constant ecosystem. in this case, that wasn't what was happening. the people who brought the democratic party to the dance in 2018, in 2020, in 2022, the fact that they were grossly underfunded, that is an oversight, but it was also a gross miscalculation. i also think we have to have a conversation around the economy, and i think that's what we're also going to see, the fact that people did swing, even among young people, they couldn't pay their rent. we have to be frank about what was missed. >> right. a lot of misinformation and was

believed by voters who were lower propensity voters. tom, there are a couple myths i feel like need to be dispensed. one is people are focused on the fact in all of these swing states, most of them, the down ballot democrats did well, in some cases won, but kamala harris lost. what was this undervote. why are there places where people only voted the top of the ticket? >> yeah, and i appreciate the opportunity to address this because this seemed to be one of the most viral takeaways from this election. and it's incredibly important that we're clear eyed about what happened. and i see no evidence of fraud in these results, to be clear. the swing was fairly universal across the country, less in the battlegrounds, but to your point about these undervotes, we did see fewer ballots cast in these competitive senate races. but it's a minimal difference, in michigan, about 1.5% dropoff. in wisconsin, about 0.8%.

we know donald trump has had this somewhat kwlu neek phenomenon where his votes aren't necessarily transferrable to the republican candidates down ballot who are trying their best to look and sound like him. we saw that in 2022, and you saw democratic senate candidates frankly running very good campaigns and there's a reflection of that, where democrats were able to succeed in these competitive battleground states. >> and so to bottom line it, what was the total number of votes that would have swung this election back to vice president harris? people think it's millions but isn't it like 1then,000, 120,000, 130,000? >> it's right about that neighborhood. it's a little over 100,000 votes across those close states. when you look at the actual swing nationally, nationally it sort of gives us a different picture of what happened. seems that democratic turnout was more depressed from a national perspective, where

outside of the battleground, vice president harris, the margin dropped by almost eight points relative to president biden's margin. within these battleground states, the difference was about 3.3 points, meaning substantially closer. that's a margin, so we're talking about her running about a point and a half behind president biden from 2020. >> california, i don't believe, is finished counting. that's going to change what the popular vote total is. bottom line, the democrats didn't get out their base vote. they focused on the wrong things, converting republicans rather than getting base voters out, particularly brown and black base voters so the brown voters who came out were more trumpy. and that is those men and also young men who are much more open to misinformation, pro-trump, came out, the base did not. maria and tom, thank you very much. >> some people are trying to blame identity politics for kamala harris' defeat. it was trump who was running an

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over the constitution should be allowed in his administration, and they'll last about as long as they don't displease him. that means that few guardrails that existed the last time around will be gone. and trump's extreme agenda will just plow right on ahead. i mentioned earlier that new york congresswoman elise stefanik will become our face to the rest of the world stage as ambassador to the united nations, and yes, i'm embarrassed. and while she has minimal experience in foreign policy and national security, she has been one of trump's most loyal sycophants so that's all that really matters. there's also kash patel, the former trump national security official who is being eyed to take over either the cia or the fbi. and he has vowed to oust anyone who played any role in the investigations of trump and his supporters. former congressman lee zeldin was tapped to be the next epa administrator and the man in charge of likely rolling back the biden era rules on climate and air pollution, prepare to

cough and wheeze a lot. and florida congressman mike waltz has been selected to serve as trump's national security adviser, you know, perhaps trump likes him because like trump, he's been critical of nato and has claimed the era of ukraine's blank check from congress is over. but it is two of the other announcements today that should be the most concerning for the direction our country is heading in and the untold damage we could see. first is white nationalist stephen miller, who is expected to be trump's deputy chief of staff for policy. miller is best known for shaping trump's racist and draconian immigration policies that led to the countless family separations at the border, the muslim travel ban, and ending the daca program. when he's not running his bizarro world civil rights law firm for white people. members of his own family who were once immigrants denounced him the first go round. thanksgivings will likely get even more awkward, and he will be joined by project 2025

contributor and immigration hard liner tom homan as trump's border czar to oversea the mass deportation plan. he preefrbiously served as trump's acting director of immigrations and customs enforcement during the child separation policy. speaking on a panel in july, he said migrants, quote, ain't seen nothing yet, s-word yet. wait until 2025. he has also had this to say about what the deportation efforts will look like. >> some of these democratic governors say they're going to stand in the way. they're going to make it hard for us. you know, a suggestion. if you're not going to help us, get the hell out of the way because we're going to do it. if we get resistance from new york city and we may have to double the number of agents we send to new york city because we're going to do the job. >> is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? >> of course there is. families can be deported

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won, there's one particularly disingenuous argument that has emerged. >> i think one of the losers here is condescending identity politics. >> we try to parse out different ways to speak to different cohorts because our polling shows so-and-so appeals to such and such. >> the dominance of identity politics on the left which made a push for all kinds of dei policies that largely came out of the urban academic bubble but alienated many mainstream voters. >> the idea that identity politics was the problem for democrats is laughable, considering it wasn't vice president kamala harris who relentlessly focused on race or gender, either her own or anyone else's. that would be donald trump. it was trump and his running mate who ran an identity politics entire campaign focused on men. trump did walk out to the song, it's a man's world, at the republican convention.

again, all the focus on identity politics came from trump and vance, not democrats. >> i didn't know she was black. until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. >> we're effectively run in this country via the democrats, via our corporate oligarchs by a bunch of childless cat ladies. >> in springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. >> we're talking a lot about venezuela because aurora is really infected by venezuela. >> there's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now, yeah, i think it's called puerto rico. >> we will get critical race theory and transgender insanity the hell out of our schools. >> kamala is for they/them. president trump is for you. >> joining me now is yeison johnson, professor of politics and journalism at morgan state university and host of the podcast, a word with jason

johnson. i didn't listen to any sunday tv, but i heard about it, and all i heard was everybody was screaming the democrats did identity politics. you have to be kidding me. what we just played was identity politics, no? >> not only is what you just played identity politics, not only is that what trump has run in since he first came down the stairs eight years ago, i'm so sick and tired of supposedly progressive democrats spouting this 1972 grad school nonsense that the inability to talk to working class white men is the antithesis of dei. everyone in this country has an identity whether it's as a man, as a woman, as nonbinary, as trans, there's nothing wrong with speaking to people's identity because every politician does it. but somehow, if you ever speak to any identity that's not straight white men, somehow, people think it's a problem. and this is the finger pointing that happens after a loss. >> let me prove it to you. let me show you, what donald

trump did is ran a campaign directly targeted at the amygdalas of men. he was trying to get men out. he didn't care about women. they were fine with attacking women because they knew white women were going to vote majority for them, regardless. only college educated white women voted the other way. they were so successful in ramming a campaign that was just man, man, man. they got white voters up from 67 -- and white americans, they got white voters up from 67% of the electorate in 2020, we can show that, to 71% of the electorate in 2024. so in 2020, the electorate was 67% white voters, and it went -- and biden won. and in 2024, it was 71% white voters. and the percentages of white voters for biden and harris was the same, the difference was the

volume of white voters who came out because trump was successful at identity politics. >> and specifically appealing to a version of whiteness that isn't just appealing to white people but white aspiring latinos and white aspiring nonblack people in this country. that's the thing we're going to understand if we're going to have real conversations within any organization concerned about what happened last week. we have to understand that whiteness is not just genetic. it's a philosophy, an attitude, otherizing other kinds of people. when donald trump can have a guest stand at madison square garden and basically say, hey, all these terrible things about latinos, large number of latinos identify as white so they don't see themselves as being insulted. there are asian americans who identify as white, so this was a white identity politics, just like the republicans have been the white party for 25 or 30 years now. an inability to address that is going to guarantee democrats

stay in the political wilderness as opposed to this idea this had to do with economic anxiety. >> also, being a man is an identity too. let's put up the numbers for exit polls of men. donald trump won men across the board, whether they were young, old, black, white, latino, aapi, this was a campaign that was targeted at men. and going on the podcasts, the bro podcast, the manosphere podcasts, that is also identity politics. literally, charlie kirk on election day was on twitter saying we need the men to come out and vote. >> look, everybody from charlie kirk to joe rogan thought it was really important for men to get up and stand out and vote for donald trump. and here's the thing we have to understand, addressing what those men's needs are in a material way is not simply enough. because look, men want better jobs. men want a minimum wage, men

want minimum wage to go up, but what trump appeals to was about male power and men feeling dissempowered in the country. you hear some democrats saying the same thing. that's only for weak men, to be honest with you. we also have to address if the republican party becomes the party of men, and the republican party is a party primarily of white men, then how is that actually addressed? you are probably not going to change those guys' minds so you have to find people who agree with democratic policies and turn them out. >> i will note the only time kamala harris addressed her race at all, she was asked by dana bash on cnn about whether or not she simply turned black, making her answer trump's really ridiculous accusation, and she said next question. she didn't talk about her race. or her

with just 70 days until the presidential transition, a second trump administration with its side on retribution weighs heavily on half of the nation's collective conscience. it is as bad as you can imagine for people who care about treating one another with dignity and respect. as we look to move past the grief of defeat and look ahead to resisting what he plans to do to the country at its most vulnerable, we must first answer how to respond morally in this moment. how to fortify ourselves spiritually for the fight. here to help us answer questions on this moral monday,

co-chair of the poor people's campaign and founding director of the center for public theology and public policy at yale divinity school. thank you for being here. i know that you have done an earful from people who just need some sort of guidance spiritually in this moment. how do we look at this country and our own response? >> first of all, thank you for having me. this country has a history of making wrong decisions and we have to respond time and time again. there are clear things that we have to do. one thing is that we cannot let trump dictate the mandate. he did not win a mandate victory. his victory wasn't as big as fdr or jfk, 472 electoral college votes and he didn't win. johnson, excuse me, 486. even if he did win a mandate, no president gets a mandate to violate the constitution. he didn't grow his vote.

he actually lost. he won the bow and didn't get this big increase on about the same thing he got last time. he didn't bring a lot of new voters, but people just didn't come together to oppose him. first, we have to make sure that we don't allow him and them to dictate the narrative in this moment. secondly, we have to ask hard questions. what did we do? income voters were infrequent and massive potential, which was not a clear focus. we have to answer that question. how can democrats win in north carolina, black and white people. when big, but not win at the national prayer we have serious questions we have to answer about coalition building and where we are in this moment. >> yeah, i can put up the numbers. for the first time in a long time, democrats won voters who make more than $100,000 and republicans won -- that the

best among people who make $50,000 or less. talk about that in a moment. that is something that you were doing in the last several weeks of the campaign trying to get it to focus on low income voters, because those are the most desperate people who are prone to any disinformation that tells them that this candidate will give me money in my pocket. >> that's right. we have two opposing realities. money is the root of all evil. corporate money, $81 billion since citizens united and $15 billion in this election cycle and congressional races. we have to figure out what it is that elon musk and others really want and what they are trying to do, because investing this amount of money. on the other side, if the majority amount of america supports healthcare and lifting the poor, then we cannot allow the democratic party to say that you are far left when you are for those issues. the last time that biden and

harris got 56% of poor wage voters in trumbull only got 44. this time, he went up five and democrats went down six. we cannot have a campaign where we do not focus on the reality of the biggest and largest extensive voter bloc in the country, which is poor low-wage voters. when democrats support the things that they need, living wages, healthcare and so forth and so on. you ask the question at the top and they want to make sure that we don't run out of time. one of the things we have to do in this moment is something that our parents did. we have to be clear to america, first of all. power unrepentant italy used or hurt people brings judgment on a nation and it destroys our foundations. challenge religious nationals each time they support this foolishness and we cannot follow him down down the rabbit hole. we have to do the same thing they did in 1877 when

they had a bad election. they cried, then shook themselves. they got up and began to fight. in 1896 when became the law of the land. they cried and were angry, got up and fight. in 1965 when was killed one year after the brown decision, they cried, were hurt and got up and fought. september 1963 when children were killed in a church, they cried and were hurt. they got up and fought. we have to have that same kind of tenacity in this moment. nothing else can be our reality. we cannot settle. we have to cry, grieve and get up and fight. this fight is in the states this time. state-based building from the bottom. >> indeed. bishop william barber, thank you so much, good brother. that is tonight's reidout. insight with jen psaki starts

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