i think it is fair to say he is a pretty extreme guy. did that matter? >> oh, you know, i think what was the kicker for a lot of people was that he couldn't pronounce the name of the town he moved to to gain power for a political system. and that matters to us. he made fun of me for talking about shop class in junior high and i beat him twice. things like our culture, our values, our priorities matter to us, and we don't want to hear that we are silly for caring about wanting to be able to prepare fresh fruits and vegetables for our children or wanting all of our forms of intelligence honored and stewarded in education. you know? the trades. >> congresswoman marie perez, running

>> that is all in on this thursday night. -- starts now. >> that reminds me of the time i fixed your carburetor. >> you have done that three or four times. >> that is me. thank you, my friend. there is a ton of news to get to this evening. i want to start by going back to the year 2019 on the small island nation of samoa. >> one year before the global pandemic, samoa was experiencing its own pandemic. >> this is the biggest increase in debt we have seen since records began. a figure of 32 -- is up from 25 only after a. >> -- is not designed to deal with this. the hospitals running at two and 300 capacity, it speaks for itself. it is serious. >> the outbreak that dr. was talking about with measles, a

disease for which vaccines have been available for more than 60 years. in 2019, and entirely preventable outbreak on samoa killed 83 people. most of them children under the age of four. why? why was a preventable disease spreading like wildfire and killing so many children? one year prior to that outbreak, two infants in samoa died after nurses accidentally mixed their vaccine doses with another drug. it was a horrible tragedy. and it was one the american anti-vaccination movement sought to exploit. the anti-vaccine group, children's health defense, jumped on the incident to stoke skepticism about vaccines in samoa. during that time, measles vaccination rates for infants in samoa went from 92% in 2013, to just 40% by 2018. the man in charge of that anti- vaccination campaign, the leader of children's health defense, was robert f. kennedy jr. he personally traveled to samoa as an honored guest of the prime minister.

kennedy told the local papers that the samoan prime minister shared kennedy's concerns about vaccines. right around that same time, the prime minister halted the country's infant measles vaccine program. all of that created the conditions for samoa's deadliest measles outbreak in generation. which resulted in the deaths of dozens of the islands of children. the man who ran that deadly, anti-vaccination campaign has just been named, by donald trump, to be the next secretary of health and human services where he will oversee everything from vaccine to drug approvals and children health, and the center for disease control and prevention. trust has already promised to give him a broad mandate when it comes to america's health. >> robert f kennedy cares more about human beings and health and the environment than anybody.

i am going to let him go wild on health. i will let him go wild on the food. i will let him go wild on medicines. >> by now, you have heard all about rfk jr.'s vaccine skepticism. over the past year he has went out of his way to claim he is not anti-vaccine, while also saying things like this . >> you have talked about the media slanders you by calling you and anti-vaxxer. and you have said you are not anti-vaccine. ur proceeds vaccine. difficult question. can you name any vaccines you think are good? >> i think some of the live virus vaccines are averting more problems than they are causing. there is no vaccine that is safe and effective. >> he is pro s.a.f.e. act scenes, but also there is no vaccine that is a safe. kennedy is not just against all vaccines, he is just against

the ones that currently exist. kennedy's dangerous health claims go way beyond vaccines. since 1945, -- have added fluoride to help reduce tooth decay in children. is considered the countries -- kennedy has expressed skepticism about putting fluoride in the water. and indicated he might influence local municipalities to do away with their water fluoridation programs. >> january, 2025. three months away. what would you actually do? >> i think fluoride is on its way out. i think the faster it goes out, the better. i am not going to compel anybody to take it out. -- i will advise the district about the legal obligation to their service. >> just to be clear, there are real consequences to removing fluoride from the water. stet news reports the city of

juneau, alaska, remove fluoride from the water in 2007. dental procedures related to cavities increased after juneau got rid of that fluoride, particularly among children in socioeconomically disadvantaged families. i would go as far as to say as community water fluoridation is probably our best health equity oriented public health intervention that we have, said jennifer meyer, nurse and professor of health sciences at the university of alaska, anchorage, led the study. rfk jr. has also promoted fake cures for covid -- cures that have caused severe injury and death. he has promised to dismantle our healthcare infrastructure through massive purges. he recently told an audience he plant the fire 600 employees from the national institutes of health. and he is got plans to got other key departments as well. >> clearing out the corruption in your terms.

would that mean clearing out the top level federal service workers. >> and some categories. >> what does that look like? >> in some categories of workers, their entire departments. like the nutrition department, the fda. that have to go. >> the fda's nutrition programs focus on things like preventing chronic diet-based diseases and regulating what foods can call themselves, healthy, on their packaging. rfk's fixations are by and large somewhat fringe and conspiratorial. they also share an important feature. whether it is spreading misle in samoa, or taking fluoride out the water, or ending covid vaccine requirements, they all reveal a distinct disinterest in the public part of public health. people like robert f. kennedy jr. prioritizes the -- of eccentric ideologues, many of them wealthy elites, over the

health of society at large. and the people who end up suffering are disproportionately the poor, weak, and marginalized. that is what is at stake with this appointment. joining me now is -- dean of the brown university school of public health. he was also the white house covid-19 coordinator. thank you so much. i am eager to get your perspective. i know you tweeted earlier today, this is an extraordinarily bad choice for the help of the american people. the -- shapes policy in profound ways. can you expound on how you are thinking about rfk jr.'s nomination? >> i can't. this is not a general criticism of trans-nominees. i thought -- was a perfectly good choice. rfk jr. is really outside of the mainstream. and hss does more than look at vaccines. the hss secretary overlooks a medicare, the program for seniors, it oversees -- it

certainly have profound influence on things like what medicines will be available to the american people. and of course, vaccines and other things. the problem here is the way we have made progress in our country. our system is not perfect. -- we have relied on evidence and analysis, and the scientific approach to try to make those decisions. when we have gotten it right, it has made huge impact on people's lives in positive ways. rfk jr. has a series of ideas that fill those test. he does not apply the same scientific rigorous thinking. i am deeply worried if he brings his ideas to medicare, medicaid, vaccines, to which drugs will get approved, we are going to face substantial threats to our health.

not just for kids, but all- americans. >> can you give me a sense of what practically he can do? what powers are allotted him as the head of hss? it sits on top of pyramid underneath includes the cdc, fda, nih. can he essentially veto fda approval? >> it's a very interesting thing. if you look at past hss directors, none had health experience. what good signatories have done, democrats and republicans, they have let the scientists at the fda, cdc, nih make those decisions. agency -- know what the secretary wants. and there is always some amount of political pressure, stated or unstated, not to upset the boss. what i worry about with rfk, he has such strong ideas, most of which are bad. he will shape who he picks as agency had -- also, those

people, in order to please him, are going to shape their own decisions about what drugs are going to be approved. which tests are going to be available. what vaccines are going to become available for kids. the ways in which the hss shape u.s. health policy, some of it is explicit. he gets to determine whether mammograms are going to be free or not.: cancer screenings. a lot of this is much more nuanced and subtle. that's what we will get a lot of problems. >> on an immediate level. let's say he manages to get past the nomination process, and is installed at the agency come the end of january. does that mean he can influence covid-19 booster shots within of the year? i tended to think the cdc and the hss are a vast, federal bureaucracy. and messing around with it in the near term is quite difficult. maybe you can disagree with me. >> for instance, it will matter

enormously who the cdc directors will be. if it someone who shares rfk jr.'s views, absolutely. if you think about the recommendations for vaccines -- certain vaccines authorized by fda, why are they covered by insurance. those are determinations made by cdc. cdc director, and hss secretary can have a profound impact on what vaccines will be available, free, widely dispersed. it turns out those are things that are going to be shaped jointly by the cdc director and hss secretary. i worry his is sitting at the top, he will be allowed to help pick who the leaders of those individual agencies are going to be. that is going to make a big difference. >> dr. ashish jha, and valuable

perspective on this. somewhat terrifying as well. i appreciate your time and wisdom tonight. thank you. i want to turn to michelle goldberg, the opinion columnist at the new york times. you have a first-time field experience covering the rfk jr. campaign experience. i want to remind someone of this -- everyone of this very useful -- what brought all supported together was a peculiar combination of cynicism and credulity. the people i encounter to believe they are living under a deeply sinister regime that lies to them about almost everything that matters. and they believe that with the kennedy campaign, we might be on the cusp of redemption. how complicating is it for our democracy to have someone like robert f kennedy installed at a health agency with so much influence, to have someone who is spreading misinformation and disinformation actually now in the government itself? >> profoundly. both in terms of actual health outcomes, but also in terms of

this broader, destabilization of any, in the sense of what reality is. i think the credulity part is in some ways as important as the cynicism. -- to say don't believe anything the government is saying about the efficacy of vaccines. or kennedy has raised questions about whether hiv really causes a.i.d.s. at the same time, or all of these quack remedies. ivermectin, -- rob malcolm. that they are willing to accept with very little evidence. with only anecdotal stories that are passed from one person to another. it is this perfect storm. both for really bad health outcomes, but also for entering this upside down world where the people who are atop many of these various agencies, if trump gets his way, are people who are hostile to what those

agencies have traditionally done. >> the cdc director, dr. mandy cohen shared her concerns about rfk jr. pick. she said, even without changing one regulation or one piece of guidance, the sharing of misinformation from a place of power is concerning. that is it, isn't it? you put rfk jr. in a place of power. it undermines subtle -- it undermines public health, but also way the american government -- public thinks of its government. even post trump, it can be incredibly damaging to the just the notion of health, and the government that is there to guarded safety and well-being of its citizens. >> you will sorta have an inversion of distrust. you will have trouble voters who suddenly believe everything that comes from the government. whereas abiding voters, with good reason, will be quite skeptical.

my kids are older now. if my kids were very small, i would not trust some new vaccine schedule that came from this government. i would take my kids to another country and get them treated accordingly -- >> so then you have mistrust on both sides. what is the net effect of all of this in 2030 or 2035? the saving grace, i guess, is this is a donald trump. a man often at war with everyone he hires, and fires at will. already there is a divergent path for these two men. you see even in the trance of victory speech where he's appraising bobby kennedy on one hand, but also saying, don't touch the environmental stuff. this is a trump on election night, declaring victory, talking about bobby kennedy. i think. >> he is a great guy. he means it. he wants to do some things, we will let him get to a. i just said, bobby, leave the oil to me.

we have more liquid gold, oil and gas -- than any country in the world. more than saudi arabia. we have more than russia. bobby, stay away from the liquid gold. other than that, go have a good time, bobby. >> that is election night. tonight, just a few minutes ago, trump is having a rally of sorts at mar-a-lago. he said this about bobby kennedy. >> i just looked at the news reports. people like you, bobby. do not get too popular, bobby. you have reached about the level. >> at the end of the day, it is a trump shall. if bobby kennedy does execute on his broad agenda, which does include quack -- >> it also includes at least a very legitimate critiques of big agriculture, big pharma. the problem with the big pharma is they charge too much for medicines and will it let --

minute buick patents. nonetheless, the critiques are valid. i think that is probably what is going to end up tripping him up. >> for the environmentalism. >> trump and -- have a lot of big pharma donors. and agricultural dermis that cold donors. >> [ inaudible ] >> -- i think they might be a lot more upset if he tries to actually do something about ultra processed foods in school. look what happened when michelle obama tried to tell kids to eat vegetables and exercise. >> -- that donald trump is against in many ways is things that robert kennedy embraces. -- drink rob malcolm, do not get vaccinated. it has been a roll week of insanity and it's only thursday. thank you for joining me for one chapter of it on the thursday night. >> we have a lot more to get

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the system still thinks it is in charge. i am going live right now and will probably be the last transmission from this building. god bless you all for your support. please support our sponsors. infowars is the detonator or the movie happening. you are the resistance, god bless and good luck. >> that was alex jones earlier today lamenting the sale of his infowars platform as part of the $1.4 billion defamation judgment that he owes to family members and victims of the sandy hook elementary shooting. pending a bankruptcy appearance in houston next week over whether the auction sale was correctly administered, the onion, as in, the onion. as in the excellent and satirical news site is expected to acquire the infowars news site and its associated social media accounts, among other outlets. the onion plans to remake

infowars of a parody of itself. one that mocks weird internet personalities who shamelessly pedal misinformation. as bonus karmic justice, the nonprofit organization every time for gun safety, has partnered with the onion as the exclusive advertiser on the revamped infowars agai. joining me now are ben collins, the chief executive of the onions parent company -- and president of [ inaudible ] can we start with this court hearing happening in houston. are you confident the sale will go through? >> we won the auction. we heard from the trustees last night. the biggest shock test would be if alex jones was like, absolutely, they won the auction. let's move along. we are not surprised by this development. we are happy to take over this

thing. >> i think a lot of people are excited. did you hear any response from alex jones' camp? do you know how it landed when he heard it wasn't the onion with exclusive -- from every town for gun safety? >> from what we can tell, we are not sure he knew what was. he was a completely siloed reality. -- he was like, the newspaper, the onion. correct. we do have a newspaper. i don't think he knew exactly what was. that was funny to see. he also read a statement from our ceo -- who may or may not exist. >> it is a very hilarious statement. >> it is nice for him to get some of his own medicine in a lot of ways today. >> can you explain, john, what it means for everytown for gun safety to be the exclusive advertiser? >> some people might think it's odd bedfellows for us to

partner. at our fingertips, we have the data, the stories and the research. would they have got is the creativity to really breakthrough. in many ways, we think humor is a way to reach audiences we have never reached before. and to reach them in a way with a new media. that is really sad that -- satire and humor. >> first of all, i think that's an astute observation. of the power of humor. the right often uses humor wickedly to its advantage, but the left has not been able to do a. this sort of karmic justice is insanely funny. what was the reaction from the parents who had their children massacred at newtown? who suffered through so much, to get this major settlement with alex jones and now this turn of the screw. >> john talk to them specifically. >> i want to say, they made this happen. they deferred some money to make this happen for us. within this case. >> so some of their settlement

money was used toward this -- >> the big cruel jokes about alex jones, he takes all of these people and turns them into characters. everybody involved in this case, -- they are victims of the worst thing that could happen. they are also human beings and they also like a joke. they want something nice to have been. thank fully, i think a lot of people will open their phone and saw something that did not make them want to run off in the woods and lit -- live in the wilderness. they saw something good. that is the feeling they wanted to give to people. >> you have to acknowledge the courage of these families. for years, standing up to alex jones. they know the impact of this is bigger than just them. they know this will have an impact on victims all over this country. and certainly, everytown is very concerned about those families. we came into being after sandy hook.

they know their courage is going to make a difference to families all over the country. >> i think in the bigger picture, even setting aside the horror of gun violence. alex jones, his infowars site ends up being a charade, just like he is a charade. i think there is real justice in that. in terms of how this idea came about, then, you replied to a joke on blue sky. an alternative to x. saying you are looking into buying infowars. >>" is -- i quoted a famous guy. we found it like everyone else that it was for sale. we would like, wouldn't it be funny if we bought infowars. everyone was like, would that actually be funny? we had just bought the onion like nine months ago. we kind of knew how to buy

stuff at this point. we just started calling around. we called the family's lawyers. >> why did you think of the families? >> i knew them from my previous life at this place. i called them and i was like, what is the deal here? what do you think it might take? a few months later, we were simultaneously building up this roster -- contacting comedians and antiaging -- nda them. we would like, if we don't get this, they will be upset about it. we have this expensive cool world to build on this horrible website we are about to take over. we are very excited to cheer up the people. the families made it happen. infowars minute happen by partnering with us. we are excited for the future. >> what is the advertising going to look like?

>> it is going to be from banner ads to creating content together, to video. >> are you going to sell supplements? >> it is on the table, we have not decided yet. >> this is the statement that was released by the onion today about alex jones is supplement business. let me say this straight. we plan to collect the entire stock of the infowars warehouses of supplements into a large vat and boil down the contents into a single candy bar size omni vitamin that one executive, i will not name names, may eat in order to increase his power and perhaps become immortal. can you expand on that? >> we do know we have them now. >> i have no idea what to do with tens of thousands -- we are about to find out together. maybe we will -- if you want a bite, please come down. >> i want to see if you could melt it down all of alex jones'

vitamins. something might actually happen to you. >> with alex, i think in many ways -- to battle disinformation and disarm them. we have to remember the one thing that is not funny is the pain that alex jones -- nothing funny about that. >> that is why i think it is so meaningful that whenever people are on this site, there is going to be a constant reminder in the advertisements. i am sure you will get creative with them. this is the reason that this site is this way. it's a constant reminder of the horror that alex jones inflicted upon these families in a moment of absolute devastation. >> and people should not forget that.

>> it is extraordinary that with that as the predicate, you can try and find some joy in the next chapter of all of it. that is the sense of relief. >> we are turning a chapter. we are turning the chapter on the strength of the talent and courage of the sandy hook families. >> it's an extraordinary story about the families. >> without a doubt. >> and then i look forward to the documentary about all of this. especially the fabrication of the omni vitamin. hopefully like a times square event, the naked cowboy can be there. >> it will be a scary time for everyone we test omni vitamin on. >> -- one of the bright spot in otherwise pretty dark moment. congratulations, good luck with the road ahead. ben collins and john, thank you for your time. coming up, a long-awaited health ethics report on allegations of matt gaetz' -- allegations loom large. first, new scrutiny on past claims by kelsey gabbard -- trump's pick for -- stay with

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russia one, network back in 2022. gleefully playing a clip of former hawaii congresswoman, tulsi gabbard. someone referred to affectionately as, our girlfriend. after the clip finishes, one of the pundits asks, is she some sort of russian agent? and the host replies, yes. and now, donald trump has chosen tulsi gabbard as his -- of national intelligence. she would oversee all 18 intelligence agencies, including the nsa and the cia. i should say very clearly we have no reason to believe that tulsi gabbard is actually some sort of russian agent. but there is a real reason why she is amplified so eagerly by people who are actually russian agents. for example, here is an english language version of the clip the state owned russian tv was playing of their girlfriend, tulsi gabbard. >> president biden just sent out loud with the anes -- aims and objectives of the policy are, which is regime change in

russia. getting putin out of power. >> -- closely aligned with media talking points, particularly when it comes to the war in ukraine. we were going to put together a highlight reel showing tulsi gabbard parodying different russian topping point -- but rt beat us to a. the russian media company that the state department warned the public is actually a covert russian influence operation the coordinates directly with the kremlin. here is the sizzle reel that rt put out today. which is a celebration of trump's choice of tulsi gabbard to run american intelligence agencies. >> despite their lectures, and their crocodile tears, it has never been about morality. it is not about the people of ukraine, or protecting democracy. this is about regime change in russia and exploiting this war to strengthen the nato and feed

the military-industrial complex. >> let's look at what kind of democracy zelensky is leading. in ukraine. he not only gelled his political opponents, very, very early on, he banned the entire political party. >> president putin, zelensky and biden. it is time to put geopolitics aside and embrace the spirit of aloha. >> embrace the spirit of aloha. and just let putin have ukraine, hollow. having political views that aligned the kremlin is one thing. we are democracy, tulsi gabbard is allowed to believe whatever she wants to believe. but some of which he has espoused, does not just align with russian views, it aligns with russian and disinformation. >> here are the undeniable facts. there are 25 to 30 u.s. funded by a labs in ukraine.

>> at the beginning of the war in ukraine, one of the big pieces of disinformation russia was pushing was the idea they were dangerous, u.s. backed by a labs in ukraine. the u.s. did help find that labs in ukraine, laughter did the same work the cdc does in the states, to track and prevent outbreaks of various diseases. but russia pushed the idea that they were dangerous bio weapons labs, and the u.s. were covering the. there were theories as to why russia pushed that particular live. somebody was to create more pretext for the russian invasion. some thought it was covered in case russia and of using its own biological weapons. or, as justification as to why russia was attacking dense population centers, in addition to military targets. whatever the reason, the bio labs narrative was russian and disinformation. the idea the u.s. was covering up some bio labs conspiracy was a lie crafted by russians intelligence agencies as informational warfare. and tulsi gabbard pushed it.

>> instead of trying to cover this up, the biden-harris administration needs to work with russia, ukraine, nato, the u.n., to immediately implement a cease-fire for all elementary -- action until the labs are secured and these pathogens are destroyed. >> while tulsi gabbard and said she never meant to imply ukraine had biological weapons laboratory, and said any allegation she was parroting russian -- was simply to send to her. here's what mitt romney had to say at the time. tulsi gabbard is a parroting false russian propaganda. her treasonous lies it may well cost lives. now, donald trump want tulsi gabbard in charge of all of the u.s. intelligence agencies. coming up, reports indicate that the health ethics report into matt gaetz is highly damaging.

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serious charges. that had to be public. >> considering the job he is being appointed to, and considering the fbi will do a background check anyway. i cannot imagine the committee will not want to see it. >> i am going to demand release of the ethics committee report. matt gaetz has chosen to resign from the house. but he cannot choose to conceal that information. >> would you want to see the report? >> i do not want it to be any limitation at all on what the senate can consider. >> pressure is mounting in washington, d.c. for the house ethics committee to release his long-awaited report on former congressman, matt gaetz, ahead of his senate hearing as attorney general. the committee has been investigating him since 2021 over allegations of sexual misconduct, drug use, bribery and obstruction. with matt gaetz ' sudden resignation, -- is a dell.

-- was expecting to meet behind closed doors to discuss the report. but nbc news reports that meeting has now been canceled. joining me now is kristi greenberg, former federal prosecutor -- it is great to see you. i think a lot of people may be do not remember, or never knew exactly what matt gaetz is being investigated for. >> before we got to the house ethics committee, doj was investigating matt gaetz in connection with an associate of him, droll greenberg, no relation. for trafficking of a minor and illicit drug use, essentially sex and drug parties with women who may not have been of age of consent. whether or not drugs were at this party. that investigation went on for a number of years. droll greenberg was a cooperating witness. he is serving 11 years in prison for trafficking -- as

far as we know, he was giving information about other men he introduced this a minor to. he said was part of his plea, he also witnessed the minor having sex with other men, it does not say who. he was a witness to that and these acts were happening. the judge in that sentencing of joel greenberg said this was cooperation be on anything he is seen in his 22 years. that is under seal, most of it. the only parts we know that our public are the four people he ended up giving information on that were charged. four people charging based on a cooperator -- that is pretty standard. that is not, this is or extraordinary. what is under seal? i imagine is part of what now the house ethics committee took up.

doj decided not to charge matt gaetz with anything. but the house ethics committee wanted to investigate further. maybe there is not a federal crime, maybe there is something else. they were looking at these sexual misconduct allegations in the illicit drug use, among other things. i think joel greenberg's testimony, he apparently provided written information to the house ethics committee, i think it would be at the heart of this. along with other witnesses, the minor, and other witnesses to the conduct. >> his girlfriend, as well. the house is like, doj did not charge him with crime, but it's of interest to us as an ethical matter. now the house ethics chair, he said, if he is no longer in congress, then the ethics committee does not have purview. except, it's not like he is leaving to sell real estate in florida. >> right. he is leaving to get a higher position. he is looking to be a part of the president's cabinet. the reason you would not make a report like that public is

because if the guy is leaving with his tail between his legs, you do not want to dirty him up. let him just go. here, he is resigning right before the report is going to be released so that he can conceal it from the public and he can get this great post at the head of the department of justice. that is absurd. we need to know what is in that report. >> we played the sound of senators suggesting they want to see with the house ethics committee came up with in its report. it's an open question about whether it will actually be made public. you even have senator josh hawley saying if there is not an ethics report release, there will be an fbi investigation. here is where i have to ask. i remember the investigation to brett kavanaugh. i remember the reporting in the washington post on how surface that investigation was. the trump administration, this is according to the washington

post. the trump administration protected cavanaugh from facing a full fbi investigation in the wake of serious allegations that he sexually assaulted two women. at least eight senators cited the fbi's finding -- ineffectively provided them cover -- >> it was a total farce. they set up a hotline and never even pursued most of the leaves coming. and then to have actual women contacting members of congress and, we have information, no one was following a. the idea that they said we can rely on the fact that there will be an investigation, give me a break. let's see the underlying information. let's see the interviews, let's see what the whitten testimony was. and let's hear from witnesses to the extent we can. do not to say we will rely on what the fbi has done. we deserve to hear from the horses mouth. >> -- we know there are three more appointments. trump's lawyer all doing quite well post litigation. -- a person who argued on

behalf of of the tribe side at the supreme court. he will be the solicitor general. todd blanche and emile bovee. deputy attorney general and principal -- deputy attorney general. i assume they got paid. but this is a big boom. putting up with trump. what is your reaction to these choices? >> that was part of why you do it. you do it so -- >> sleep get a job as the attorney general? >> you can get some higher- level job that may be would not have been available otherwise. john sauer was mike leslie in harvard law school. we were in the same section. he was always very bright. i do not necessarily agree with his political views. he was a smart guy, todd blanche, -- they have been prosecutors. the bar is low here.

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