television. we have just a few seconds left for final thoughts. molly, what a week it was. >> yes, but also red-haired people doing well on television, i cannot but agree with you. >> that's very kind. >> i'm just excited that the weekend is here. i am having a big party with my friends and hang out with my dog and finding the joy. we need as much as we can get. >> the nation might need a break. that does it for us this morning. thanks for watching today and all weeklong. we'll see you again on monday. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports," another trump cabinet pick, anti-vaccine activist robert f. kennedy jr. for health and human services. trump vowed to let him go wild on health. so what would that look like?

plus, the growing drumbeat around the ethics probe in the house into trump's polarizing pick for attorney general. will the investigation of matt gaetz ever see the light of day? also ahead, he's not headed for trump's cabinet, but elon musk is reportedly now meeting with foreign dignitaries. his growing influence inside the president-elect's orbit. happy friday. it's 10:00 eastern, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. a fresh trump pick rattling washington. the president-elect has tapped prominent vaccine conspiracy promoter robert f. kennedy jr. to lead the department of human services unlike some of trump's other services a pick he previewed on the campaign trail but no less jarring. public health experts raising alarms be a the stocks of major vaccine makers took a dive at this announcement but trump

insists rfk jr. is a popular pick. >> today i nominated him for, i guess if you like health, if you like people that live a long time, it's the most important position, rfk jr. bobby. i just looked at the news reports. people like you, bobby. don't get too popular, bobby. you know, you've reached about the level -- >> so this move would put kennedy in charge of health care policy and budgeting, food and medicine regulations, and a staff of over 80,000 across 13 different agencies, some of which he has vowed to eliminate. joining us now is nbc's allie raffa, trump biographer tim o'brien, executive editor at bloomberg within, and an emergency medicine doctor and former regional director for the department of health and human services. another controversial cabinet pick. take us through the thinking and what trump is trying to say with

this choice. >> reporter: yeah, ana, it cannot be underscored enough how important this role of hhs secretary is. as you mentioned, kennedy would head 13 health agencies that would be under his purview if he is confirmed to this position. this agency boasting an over $1 trillion budget in the federal government, the largest in the federal government, and so this is a massive responsibility that president-elect trump says that rfk is prepared for in announcing this pick. he said in a statement in part, quote, hhs will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming health crisis in this country. this news not coming as too much of a surprise considering that we heard trump for months on the campaign trail tease or preview giving kennedy a position, a

health position, in his administration if elected, despite some competing views between the two of them. rfk calling for more scrutiny of chemicals and pesticides while during the first trump administration, according to current and former epa staffers, the opposite was done, but we are seeing a wide range of reaction to this pick p.m. you saw republicans on capitol hill yesterday widely praise this decision while still notably not saying how they would vote, these senators, how they would vote during the confirmation process for kennedy. on the other side of the aisle we saw democratic senators come out with much sharper and swifter reaction, many condemning the situation calling it dangerous. >> allie raffa, stay close. before we talk about rfk jr. specifically, given us a quick rundown of what the hhs secretary does and how their

decisions affect americans on a daily basis. [ no audio ] >> i think we're having audio trouble. >> i was on mute. i'm sorry. >> please, continue. >> hhs is the largest budget in the federal government and it employs over 90,000 people. to make sure that things like your cms, medicare and medicaid services, to make sure you have health care clinics that are available to people all over the country, to make sure the fda operates to ensure safe, effective medications are out there, and the politicalization of that process is really dangerous, but it's also important that the 90,000 people that go to work every day at hhs ensure that health care is available for americans, and most of the things they do people don't even realize what would happen if it went away. >> let's go through some of rfk jr.'s questionable medical views, just some of his views here. he believes vaccines can cause autism, a claim that doesn't stand up to decades of research.

he has compared vaccine mandates to the holocaust, falsely linked antidepressants to mass shootings. he promoted covid conspiracies throughout the can defensemenic. he said dr. anthony fauci should be prosecuted. i wonder what would you think if you received this resume? >> remember that the hhs secretary is the most important public health messenger in the united states. the surgeon general actually reports to the hhs secretary. so it's important that when there's information that has to be trusted by the public and it comes from the secretary of health and human services, they know what is true. and we have somebody in rfk jr. that trafficks in conspiracy theories and disproven medical facts. it's really concerning across all aspects of hhs, not just vaccine safety and efficacy, not just medications, but all aspects of public health. what happens when the guy at the

podium isn't just the president of the united states, which we've seen give inaccurate or incomplete information to the public during a pandemic but the guy behind him is an hhs secretary that sows even more doubt and divisiveness in the american public and undermines our institutions of public health. >> it is notable, tim, that in his mission statement of sorts on x, kennedy didn't mention any of those stances we just ticked through or the lists we were showing about some things he said on the campaign trail. instead, he says he will, quote, clean up corruption, stop the revolving door between industry and government, and return our health agencies to their rich tradition of gold standard evidence-based science. now that sounds great, in theory, and we've heard him pledge to cut down on ultra processed food, weaken big pharma. an attractive idea to many americans. trump could pick someone with those types of goals who didn't have the conspiracy baggage, so why him?

>> well, i think, you know, with all of the trump nominees, there's a few common threads -- loyalty. in different ways they play to trump's base. and then trump has a cinematic sense of himself and sees all of these people as out of central casting, as he would say, and he cares about performance art as much as he does confidence. unfortunately, that's not what you want in a president. you want a president to populate federal agencies that play important, constructive roles in american lives and in america's position in the world, to be -- have deep subject expertise, to be competent and to be sophisticated. and almost to a person, except for a couple of his nominees, none of them fits that bill. in bobby kennedy's case -- go ahead. >> no, you finish, please. >> in bobby kennedy's case, to say that he believes in gold standard definitions of science

when he's been running around for the best part of the last couple of years being absolutely counter factual, offering unhinged conspiracy theories about medicine, saying that, you know, covid targeted one population but not another, that vaccines cause autism, all of this is counter factual and counter to scientific thought in all known reality, but he's doing it anyway. >> and here is how some key senators are reacting to this pick, and this is important because they will have a choice to make to vote to confirm or not to confirm so watch. >> there are committees that are going to be conducting hearings, and there will be plenty of scrutiny of these nominees' records when the time comes. >> there's a lot of things when i hear him say that are, like, lifted from my speeches, but there are other things he has said that give me great concern. >> so we know the confirmation hearing could get ugly because of all the things that we've

listed that are so controversial but then you hear somebody like cory booker say there are aspects of kennedy's platform and what he has talked about, his passion for removing chemicals from food, all the additives, the ultra processed food, that sort of thing. do you see him making it through, tim? >> i do not give -- i think there's a strong chance he won't. by the way, cory booker is not a scientist either or a doctor. both in the gaetz and kennedy nomination nominations, the senate will have to play its classic role to advise and consent in picks like this. if there's a glimmer of hope around the senate being a bipartisan institution that has the public good in mind, i think john thune being named majority leader rather than rick scott, despite all of the maga pressure on the gop to put scott in, and he would have been unfit, shows, i think, the senate wants to

uphold the institutional prerogatives and certainly the wave of criticism from republicans that greeted matt gaetz gives one hope that they will look at these things and not because trump wants to burn the government down. >> doctor, with the matt gaetz pick, we've seen gop staffers express so much shock and disgust. with rfk jr., what kind of effect do you think this is happening on the rank and file at hhs? could it lead to, i don't know, brain drain within the agencies? >> i am say as somebody who worked inside hhs in d.c. and in new york, the career service professionals there take their job very seriously and they know if they don't do their jobs, americans suffer. and so they will stay as long as they can to do the jobs they are given. the only risk to exodus at hhs will be if they start undermining public health and dismantling the programs. i do trust that those career professionals at hhs will stay around as long as possible to do the job, because, at the end of the day, hhs exists to protect

the public health of americans not to serve donald trump's ego or the whimsical, fanatical extremist views of rfk jr. >> thank you both very much for joining us. meantime, fresh controversy emerging involving donald trump's already controversial pick for defense secretary. fox news host pete hegseth, a 2017 police report connects him to a sexual assault investigation in california. i want to bring back allie raffa. what do we know about this investigation and any response from hegseth and the trump team? >> reporter: yeah, ana. we've seen new reporting from ""vanity fair"" notably not confirmed by nbc news, that trump's pick to lead the defense department, former fox news host pete hegseth engaged in sexual misconduct, and now we're seeing officials in monterey, california, confirming that hegseth was involved in a sexual assault investigation seven

years ago but notably not detailing what his involvement in that investigation was. we are hearing from pete hegseth's attorney who told "vanity fair" that no criminal charges were filed and the trump transition team is reacting to this saying "mr. hegseth has vigorously denied any and all accusations, and no charges were filed. we look forward to his confirmation as united states secretary of defense," ana. >> keep us posted on any new developments. thank you. up next, why matt gaetz, trump's pick for attorney general, may not be out of the woods yet when it comes to an ethics probe into alleged sexual misconduct and drug use. also ahead, reports of a meeting between elon musk and a foreign ambassador that's now raising eyebrows. plus, safe or shredded? the biden legacy items at stake once trump enters the office. could trump be a social media savior? why the clock might not tiktok

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over allegations of sex trafficking involving a 17-year-old girl. no criminal charges were brought. gaetz has denied all wrongdoing. the house ethics committee was supposed to meet today and to discuss whether to release their report, but now a source tells nbc news that meeting has been canceled. nbc's julie tsirkin joins us from capitol hill. also with us two former house members, both who served on the ethics committee, former democratic congresswoman from maryland, donna edwards, and from pennsylvania, charlie dent. julie, today's house ethics committee meeting canceled, so what does that mean for this report on gaetz? >> yeah, ana, a source confirming that to me and seemingly it is because republicans decided to cancel that full ethics committee meeting. you can imagine they are finding themselves in a weird spot right now. this committee, as i'm sure your other guests can tell you, operates behind closed doors. it is a bipartisan 5 and 5 split, a panel that has spent

multiple years investigating the sexual misconduct of matt gaetz's alleged drug use, after the department of justice dropped -- decided not to pursue charges against him. steve scalise, the number two house republican, was actually just asked about this. he said very plainly that president trump, president-elect trump, will get the picks he wants on his cabinet. but as for the fate of this report, typically when members hand in their resignation letter, as we know that gaetz did yesterday, it was effective at noon, that means that this investigation and the potential report that would be released dies with it. however, there is precedent -- they have releapsed these reports at least twice in the past, so we'll see what happens here. >> julie, what are senators telling you about this report and the confirmation process? >> reporter: that is why this is so interesting. senators, both republicans and democrats, say they want the report, they need the report in order to make sure that gaetz is the best possible nominee for trump. this isn't just my words. these are the words of republican senators like kevin

cramer who said that matt gaetz has a very steep hill to climb to get his vote and other votes, too. watch this. >> i have concerns about him, about the way he disrupted and really destroyed the house of representatives for several months, what he did to a really good speaker in kevin mccarthy and accomplished nothing except getting rid of him. >> reporter: are you going to support him? >> well, he would have to get past the judiciary committee. i would be open to it but he has a really steep hill to climb to get lots of votes including mine. >> reporter: ana, this is clearly the first major test for republicans on capitol hill and trump, and he's not even in the white house yet. so obviously there's a long four years ahead. i talked to a number of senate republicans who privately told me there's no way they will vote for gaetz at this stage. i've heard that before from republicans where they say one thing when it comes to donald trump and end up doing another. certainly the pressure will build. we know that gaetz, that jd

vance, had been calling around senate republicans trying to do a vibe check to see if they actually will vote against him and then, of course, there's the question of recess appointments in which trump wants to adjourn both chambers to try and push these guys through. leadership will push back against that. >> julie tsirkin, you have a lot of work ahead and you've been doing a great job for us all along. thank you so much. congresswoman edwards, you served in the house ethics committee, usually the work is confidential, as julie was discussing, but what do you think? will this report come out? >> well, i think, you know, the house ethics committee conducts really serious investigations. i think inevitably this report is going to come out. and house republicans really control that. either it will come out directly from the ethics committee as part of its work or may come out through a leak or it may come out because the senate -- senators get their hands on the report for the purposes of confirmation, and so i think it's entirely up to republicans

who probably don't want to be running around the hill having every reporter ask them whether they think the report should come out or not and then being attached to the stain that will happen when the details of that report emerge. best for them to get some distance and to allow the report to come out and, again, there is precedent for that happening. and i would suggest that they do that sooner rather than later because i wouldn't want to be one of them with a microphone in front of my face asking about the report. >> all right. let's ask our republican on the panel here. congressman dent, you chaired the committee. the current chair says he's going to maintain confidentiality, but this is also a very unusual situation, right, with gaetz resigning. do you think the chair and the other republicans would agree to release this report? they don't want the stain. they don't want cameras in their face. >> i enjoyed being with donna on

the ethics committee. they do serious personal investigations. and it appears to me this investigation was completed prior to gaetz's resignation. and so at this point i do think that republicans -- look, to say that matt gaetz is disliked by his house republican colleagues would be a wild understatement. there is no love for this man among republicans. and so the fact that senators cornyn and durbin, who as part of the official record would like to see this report, i think is pretty compelling. as there is precedent to republic lease the report after resignation and, of course, it's in the interests of the united states senate to know as much about this nominee as possible. it's in the interest of the american people to know as much as possible. so i do think that they will ultimately release this report. and, fwi by the way, this repo probably very damning, may

recommend resignation, the ethics committee has done that on a few occasions where they've referred their work to the justice department. so we don't know what's in there. i think it's in the interests of the senate and certainly the american people to find out before this man is considered to become the top law enforcement officer of the united states. >> we do know that there were prosecutors looking into some of the allegations that we believe overlap, at least, with this white house committee report and they declined to bring charges, questions about witness testimony and credibility. congresswoman edwards, democrats are the minority, of course, in both chambers. what are you looking for them to do in this confirmation process? >> well, i think certainly in the senate there's a lot of control over that process. and in terms of asking questions of the witnesses, imagine, if you're a senator and you have this report in front of you, you're going to ask matt gaetz

directly about things that are on the record in the investigation process of witnesses who appeared before the ethics committee under deposition and under penalty of perjury, and so this is going to be a serious and damning report. i agree with charlie. the best thing the democratic senators can do is continue to press for this open hearing and aggressive questioning of matt gaetz. i don't think he's fit to serve as attorney general, and democrats and republicans will have to come together to make that decision. >> i can't help but wonder, we've seen some questioning by republican lawmakers, but will any actual votes against confirmation end up happening or will they face so much pressure and worry too much about political repercussions of getting on trump's bad side? >> well, in the case of matt gaetz, i happen to think this nomination will be withdrawn at some point.

it's clear. in your leadup to this segment, you were playing senator kevin cramer, if gaetz doesn't have kevin cramer, i can assure you, he doesn't have a lot of other members. so many of them dislike matt gaetz. we can't forget that. i can see many members voting against him. i think this thing is dead in the water. i'm just shocked. this is a gobsmackingly bad nomination. in trump world, we're used to all kinds of shocks and surprises, but this is really beyond the pale. >> i wonder, congressman dent, do you see any through line with these picks from trump from somebody like a marco rubio to a matt gaetz? >> marco rubio, mike waltz, well within the mainstream, are experienced and serious people. lee zeldin, i was surprised he was nominated for epa but a

serious person. some of these appointments are serious and i think will go through as they should, and others, like this one and rfk jr. are highly problematic to say the least. and really these are -- it seems like trump is trying to take a blowtorch to the government with some of these nominations. and that is what is so alarming. he has a mandate of sorts to secure the border, to deal with the economy, try to bring the inflation under control. i don't think he has a mandate to take vengeance, retribution against his enemies and using folks like this to carry out his will. >> former congress members, thank you both very much. happy friday. >> thank you. next here on "ana cabrera reports," what it could mean if matt dwaets has trouble getting confirmed for attorney general. plus, elon musk meeting with top iranian diplomats? what's he up to?

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let me set the record straight. are people born wicked? or do they have wickedness thrust upon them? oh! -ah! [ laughter ] no need to respond. that was rhetorical. hm, hmm. president-elect donald trump followed up his controversial decision to name florida congressman matt gaetz as attorney general by tapping several members of his criminal defense team to top positions in the justice department naming todd blanche, who led his defense team in multiple cases, as deputy attorney general, a key lawyer in his hush money

case to another top doj role and john sauer as solicitor general. msnbc legal correspondent lisa reuben is joining us with more on all of this. so, lisa, with the exception of gaetz, so far all of these doj picks are people who have represented trump in court. what message do you see in this? >> i think it's certainly a reward for their loyalty and certainly for their performance and i want to explain what i mean by that because there are surely viewers who say to themselves todd blanche and emi lf bove were part of a criminal team, at which he was convicted of 34 felony counts, but that's discounting the success that they've had overall with their strategy. the strategy they put into place also guaranteed the president-elect didn't have to face sentencing before the election, may never have to face sentencing, and, also, they were part of the team that argued presidential immunity in the

d.c. case. overall, they've been a stunning success for the president-elect. >> we've talked so much in the last couple of days about matt gaetz and his lack of experience. talk to us about the significance of having todd blanche be the number two guy as a deputy attorney general pick for donald trump, especially if the gaetz confirmation process hits some hurdles. >> todd blanche is certainly a person who has experience in the department of justice. he served as a federal prosecutor here in manhattan for almost a decade. and before that he was even a para legal in the office. he was also a law clerk in federal courts here in manhattan. he is a person for whom his former colleagues have the utmost of respect personally and professionally, notwithstanding his association with donald trump, and that's by design. the pick of todd blanche, emil bove and john sauer, all have solid credentials, are designed to calm people who would look at matt gaetz and say this is the

department of justice that's about to go off the rails. i would say to folks if matt gaetz is still in control of the department of justice, you should not be calmed by the presence of these three people. they may understand the apparatus itself in the department of justice, but they will be subject to direction of one matt gaetz. >> but would a todd blanche be acting attorney general if there is no one already filling that role, if gaetz, again, confirmation process is moving slowly, who takes up that space as the head honcho? >> oftentimes it is the deputy attorney general, but usually not the newly confirmed deputy attorney general that acts as the attorney general. you'll remember that, for example, during the first trump presidency, the first acting attorney general was sally yates, who was president obama's deputy attorney general. she served in that capacity for ten days until rodgers- rosen s came in. you want to have your deputy and ag confirmed simultaneously and have career employees sort of steer the

ship. then again this is president-elect trump. might not be his goal. >> trump has reportedly asked frequently, during his first administration, where is my roy cohen, who is the notorious joseph mccarthy legal adviser, later worked for trump as an adviser, as a lawyer, in a hitman role or a fixer, i should say. does it look like that's what trump is getting, people who have been his defense lawyers already, blanche, bove, sauer? >> i don't think anyone will quite be what he was to donald trump. i think the people who will most likely fulfill that role will operate from outside the government, ana, because he's going to need personal lawyers, and that's not what these positions are, at least as properly executed. these people will owe fidelity to the department of justice and the executive branch not to donald trump personally. and if donald trump wants a roy coen, he's best suited by having somebody outside the government who can whisper in the ears of

all the people inside the government what he really wants to have happen. and also consistent with what their legal obligations will be once they take these offices. >> lisa rubin, you make sense of stuff that is hard to understand when we're talking about legalese. thank you very much. we appreciate you. now to some breaking news in georgia this morning where a trial is now under way for the man accused of killing nursing student laken riley, facing three counts of felony murder, one count of malice murder, kidnapping with bodily injury. aggravated assault with attempt to rape, among other charges. riley was found dead with visible injuries in a wooded area on the university of georgia campus. she had gone out for a run but did not return. here is how prosecutors painted the picture of eye ibatta. >> he went hunting for females

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welcome back. the richest man in the world, elon musk, has remained a constant presence in president-elect trump's orbit. sources telling nbc news the ceo has been working to make trump feel, quote, indebted to him for his help on the campaign. taking credit for trump's re-election victory, offering

his opinion, quote, on everything, on even behaving, quote, as if he is a co-president. now new reporting from "the new york times" indicates musk, trump's newly appointed head of the department of government efficiency, conducted a not so secret discussion with iran's ambassador to the u.n. at a private location in new york on monday in efforts to ease tensions between the united states and iran. let's go to nbc's ryan nobles with more on what elon musk is up to. ryan, what can you tell us about musk's role in this trump transition? >> reporter: yeah, ana, i think it's important to point out that elon musk will never be a federal government employees. that's not what the trump team is talking about here, but there is no doubt that he has become a very close, maybe one of the top, advisers to the new president-elect, and that has a lot of people up here on capitol hill worried about potential conflicts. president donald trump is all in on elon musk. >> you know i'm a person that

believes in high iqs, and his is about as high as they get. >> reporter: the world's richest man betting big on his fellow billionaire. and offering up his help to correct the economic direction of the country. >> how much do you think we can rip out of this wasted $6.5 trillion harris/biden budget? >> well, i think we can do at least $2 trillion. >> yeah! >> reporter: musk is making his presence known in trump world. sources tell nbc news he's a near constant presence at the mar-a-lago transition hq. >> i can't get him out of here. he just likes this place. and, you know what, i like having him here, too. >> reporter: he traveled with trump for his first trip back to washington since his election victory. and in a report, not confirmed by nbc news, "the new york times" citing two iranian officials that says musk met with iran's ambassador to the united nations in an attempt to smooth tensions between the countries. trump also reportedly handed the

phone to musk while talking to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. but musk's close access to trump does not come without potential problems. the billionaire's various companies have major contracts with the federal government. his company, spacex, has received billions of dollars in federal projects. >> are you kidding me? >> reporter: his company, tesla, sells more electric cars than any other company. if trump slashes the federal incentives for evs, it could make it more difficult for other carmakers to enter the market. on capitol hill, republicans seem open to letting the successful businessman have a crack at finding ways to make government work better. >> with his leadership and cutting waste in the government just as he's taken us to the stars, i think it's the ability to cut and turbocharge this economy. >> reporter: while democrats remain skeptical. >> we all want government efficiency. in the past that has failed miserably. but let's see what he comes up with. >> reporter: and musk has not

responded to questions about potential conflicts of interest for this new role he'll play in advising the president-elect. it is also very important to point out, though, this department of government efficiency will have no statutory responsibility. they will operate outside the government and then offer up recommendations. but any of those recommendations would then have to be passed by congress and signed into law before any cuts take place. so even though elon musk is going to have a lot of influence on this next administration, he actually has no real power at the end of the day. ana? >> it's fascinating. ryan nobles, thanks. and another development just in involving donald trump's rfk jr. pick, his former vice president, mike pence, coming out publicly against trump's pick of robert f. kennedy jr. as hhs secretary because of his record on abortion rights. in a statement, pence says kennedy would be a, quote, abrupt departure of the pro-life

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chips and science act, safer communities, respect for marriage act can't be undone because there's a filibuster. finally judges. joe biden has 215 judges. that will grow in the lame duck. there's nothing donald trump and republicans will be able to do about them. they will serve for life. >> that was a very comprehensive and quick rundown. well done, my friend. thanks. up next on "ana cabrera reports" on the clock, with the tiktok ban to go into effect next year, could donald trump save the act? woah, limu! we're in a parade. everyone customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. customize and sa— (balloon doug pops & deflates) and then i wake up. and you have this dream every night? yeah, every night! hmm... i see. (limu squawks) only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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we're looking at tiktok. we may be banning tiktok. we may be doing some other things. we're not doing anything with tiktok, but the other side is going to close it up. so if you like tiktok, go out and vote for trump. >> same guy, different administrations. you saw president-elect donald trump in his first term warning

the national security risks posed by tiktok. now time is running out for the social media giant and he's rolling back the tape, vowing to save the app. tiktok face as deadline of january 19th. the day before trump's inauguration, to either cut ties with its china-owned parent company or face a ban in the u.s. but can trump make good on his promise? joining us now senior writer for "wired" kate nibs. trump says he wants to save tiktok now but, of course, the law forcing a sale is already in place passed by congress. so what could trump do? >> so, you know, normally when congress passes a bill with this much bipartisan support, it seems like there's a very narrow path for a president to do much of anything, but i also wouldn't count trump out. he might be able to persuade a large portion of the members of congress who voted for the bill to reverse their stances. he could also issue an executive

order, and he could also, you know, if the law is signed, he could tell matt gaetz if he becomes the attorney general to not enforce the law and sort of, you know, get around the ban in that way. >> help us understand this flip-flop or this shift in his perspective because trump used to have concerns about tiktok. he tried to ban it, in fact, in 2020. now he's stacking his cabinet with picks like marco rubio, mike waltz and elise stefanik who are proudly china hawks, so you would also think that would be more aligned with banning tiktok, but are the national security risks tiktok poses today any different than they were four years ago? >> no. they are definitely not any different to my knowledge and the main difference here, i think, is that the president-elect realized how much political blowback he would face if he ended up prepare siding over a tiktok ban,

especially one day before his inauguration. half the country uses tiktok. it's enormously popular to small businesses. a lot of the public support for banning tiktok has diminished since there were first discussions about this. a small minority of the country wants to ban tiktok, so it would just be a terrible political move, and i him he realizes that, first and foremost. tiktok has made wide efforts to lobby republicans, and i think they've made some inroads there. so i think the president-elect also realizes that it would be politically unpopular within his own party. >> and, again, the ban is supposed to go into effect before trump is inaugurated, so what do you expect users will see when they open their app on january 19th, the day tiktok is supposed to be banned? >> honestly, if i had to make a prediction i would say that we will still be able to access tiktok. i think the political blowback will be too severe, and, you know, maybe i'm wrong but i

think we'll be opening it and we might even see donald trump making a tiktok that day. >> he used it a lot during the campaign as well as the democrats during the campaign. kate knibbs, always a pleasure to have your expertise on this reporting with us. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> and that does it for us this very busy week. i'll see you back here monday, same time, same place. i hope you have a restful weekend. for now i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. thanks so much for joining us. . ♪♪ good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. we begin with new developments in president-elect trump's return to the white house in the top names expected to serve in his second administration. on thursday trump announced robert f. kennedy jr. as his pick to lead the department of health and human conversations.

kennedy endorsed donald trump for the white house te