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friend and colleague, andrea mitchell we are tracking the rapid rollouts for the cabinet picks, among the latest is vaccine skeptic, robert fk junior, despite his history of pushing false conspiracy theories, he would be in charge of the nation's 13 health agencies including the cdc, the fda, overseeing healthcare for millions of americans. last night in mar-a-lago, the president-elect had this message for rfk junior. >> we want you to come up with things and ideas and you've been talking about for a long time, and i think you are going to do some unbelievable things, nobody is going to be able to do it like you.>> trump also noted doug burgum is the secretary of interior, adding his deep ties to the oil

industry. the president-elect said he will install his criminal defense lawyers todd blanche as the justice department's number two and number three under matt gaetz, this confirmation for attorney general is for many people questionable. trump also lost the lawyer who won his presidential immunity case at the supreme court to serve as u.s. solicitor general, and doug collins who led the defense in the first house impeachment has been selected to lead veterans affairs, collins is an air force reserves chaplain and iraq war veteran. kristin, it is always great seeing you, thank you for being with us, so trump has now selected 21 picks, how fast do you think the team hopes to have them all confirmed?>> it is great to be with you, thank you for having me on this friday, in talking to both

those with the trump transition and senators on capitol hill, i can tell you that their focus is trying to get the picks confirmed as quickly as possible. we are going to have the rings -- hearings and votes on day one, when the president takes over, he's going to have as much of the cabinet in place as we can, so that would require jose, starting confirmation hearings once they are sworn into office on january 3rd and really having those ready to be voted on, once the president- elect is sworn into office, obviously there are some controversial picks, matt gaetz, you just mentioned as well, rfk but these are also picks that president-elect trump has signaled he is eyeing when he was a candidate. to that extent, i think folks are saying we shouldn't be surprised but we do think there should be a robust hearing process.>> and precisely about

that process, what about possible recess appointments? could that be trump's main choice for some of his selections? >> the answer is, it could be, jose, the thinking is that they will try to start a normal confirmation hearing process and then if it gets held up, if there is too much potential opposition to some of his picks, then he might consider trying to move to a recess appointment. that would have to be voted on to some extent as well, the senate and the house would have to vote on a simple authority to adjourn physically for 10 days if there weren't enough votes for that, then the president could potentially use this other option that has never been used before in u.s. history where he would move to basically force congress into recess. again, never been tried before so we will have to see if that comes to pass but i think they will try the more traditional

path first.>> you know, i have such admiration for you on so many different levels, and i just want to always take the time, the advantage, what is it that you think your most important responsibility is going forward now, as you use meet the press into some very unique years? >> that is a great privilege and i'm always privileged to be with you and so honored, so thank you for having me. i think it is what it always is, which is to make sure we are asking the tough questions, make sure we are holding folks accountable for their words, their actions, making sure we are fact checking and giving the very best version of the truth possible to our viewers so they can help navigate what will undoubtedly be a really

remarkable for years ahead. of course, president-elect trump won the white house, republicans have control of the house and the senate, we are going to be talking to hakeem jeffries about that for example, on sunday, where does he think democrats go from here, what is their role in what is going to be a republican led washington?>> thank you, thank you, thank you and i want to just bring up who exactly we are going to have this sunday, she will be joined by hakeem jeffries and senator mullin among many others. thank you so much. and joining us now is reuters white house correspondent, jeff mason and jimmy peters, i want to start with you because we've got some reporting that some fda workers are considering quitting if rfk junior is confirmed to hhs, we have heard

similar plans in other departments. staff turnover is normal but to this level, what happens if there is a mass exodus?>> with staff turnover, it is normal but i think your question is in terms of what happens if a lot of people go, that is one of the questions the trump administration will have to grapple with. and that applies to a lot of the plants that president trump has proposed, with immigration and mass deportations, having a real logistical element that they haven't entirely answered and i think that is also true for this, this desire to recast the government to weed out people within the bureaucratic layers of government, who he perhaps thinks are not loyal, and also, what do you do with the funding that has already been allocated for that? those are logistical questions that the incoming team will

have to deal with. >> i mean, and jeff, it is pretty clear who he is putting in many of these departments, mass turnover is something that trump people want, massive turnover.>> yes, i don't think that the trump team would be upset to hear that, that there are people who would be leaving. that said, government needs people to function and the fda needs people to function, there are duties that are unrelated to politics at all of these agencies are carrying out on a daily basis. so, having staff and having employees who are making sure the work gets done is a critical part of governing and it will be a critical part of what the incoming team has to deal with if they end up losing a lot of bodies.>> jeremy, trump wants big positions for people who stood by him through

his legal issues and a lot more. could this priority on loyalty backfire for the president- elect? >> i think it absolutely could because you are already seeing some defections or threats of defections in the senate, and there will be a very slim margin , trump can only afford to lose a handful of votes here, he will have jd vance as the tiebreaker, so there's not a lot of wiggle room. i think to your conversation earlier with kristen about this recess appointments issue, if there are enough republicans left in the senate which i think is an open question, willing to buck trump, all they have to do is keep the chamber in session and that is not terribly difficult to do, they just need somebody in the chair all the time, which is kind of inconvenient but procedurally speaking, that is what they can

do and there's also the question that the trump administration has to ask itself, does it want a position like the attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of the united states filled through a legal loophole like a recess appointment? and from conversations i've had with some trump allies, there is a concern about the way that it would look and the way it could damage the credibility of a possible future attorney general matt gaetz. there's a lot of open questions, and i think, looking at the people trump has nominated from matt gaetz to pete hegseth him and not all of these people are going to get through. >> yes, and the other question would be, you are talking about republicans that are still in

the senate, how many of those republicans have very serious profound interests in the trump administration over the next four years and how many of them are willing to in the early days say no, i'm not supporting it. >> yeah, probably not that many of them, because this is part of the larger story of donald trump's complete dominance of the modern republican party. eight years ago, when he was elected president, he had no congressional wing to speak of, in the house, in the senate, the republicans viewed him not really as the leader of their party but as this party crashing. now he has almost driven out every outspoken member of congress who has opposed him, the quintessential example being someone like mitt romney. and now romney is out of the

senate and there are very few of those people left who are willing to say no to trump.>> jeff, thank you, jeremy peters, thank you both so much, really appreciate it. for more on the possibility of rfk junior leading hhs, i'm joined by white house policy director in the obama administration, it is always great to see you, i want to start by playing some of what rfk junior has said in the past.>> there's no vaccine that is safe and effective.>> 25% of americans who believe that they know somebody who was killed by a covid vaccine. 25% of americans.>> are there specific vaccines that you would seek to take off the market?>> i'm not going to take away anybody's vaccines, i have never been anti-vaccine.

>> you will not take away any vaccine that is currently on the market? >> if vaccines are working for somebody, i'm not going to take them away.>> you would seek to ban fluoride in the water supply? >> and the faster it goes out, the better, i'm not going to compel anybody to take it out.>> hhs is one of the largest federal agencies, as a $3 trillion budget and 80,000 federal workers, what is your biggest concern about this?>> just the undermining of public trust in healthcare, public health, we already had a problem that started way before covid that accelerated during covid and it has only gotten worse, the head of the degradation of trust in the institutions that are going to

keep us not just alive and healthy but we are talking about generations of health, this isn't trivial. vaccines are just here and now type of thing, it is important for global immunity. think about it. polio, measles, diseases which effectively we eradicated. now, what happens in a global society when we completely dilute those requirements and undermine the infrastructure and you just heard it from the panel, with the best career staff we have had, i have worked with a lot of them, if they leave, that leaves a drain that is going to last well beyond one secretary or one administration.>> i'm so glad that you can give us the bigger picture that we rarely hear about and the effects and aftereffects of any decision or lack of decisions, that degradation of trust, in many times, in many opportunities in the recent past came out of mistakes, missed statements, non-statements, from within.>>

that's right. i think you are underscoring a very important point, there's no way i could stand here and tell you the fda is perfect, the cdc is perfect, nobody is. i do think that, i will be honest about my personal journey, there are times where i feel like i should have said you know what, i just don't know but i'm going to go ahead and recommend this because it is what the science tells me. i try to make that message clear but agencies don't do that all the time. we have seen these long- standing decisions which have only enhanced disparities the way we do with kidney disease, the way we do organ transplants, even down to the way we do clinical trials, we have a lot of work to do. i would love to see an rfk junior talk about that a little bit more but discrediting very scientific decades, not just years, but decades of work on

vaccines is just downright dangerous and what you wrote about with fluoride, i grew up in south texas, we did not have fluoride, and i have suffered from it. we have studies when provinces in canada and other countries do not have fluoride, people die. i don't need more evidence to show me the value of doing something in the water, i lived it, that was me, i was that kid.>> and thank you for that, because you know, what is the importance of fluoride in water and what is the danger of no fluoride in water?>> and i think it should be said, like anything, there is too much of a good thing, so i do think it is very important that we have what we have in place where counties, cities,

municipalities have to look at fluorination in the water and appropriate levels. the reason we have fluoride in the water is simple, it protects your teeth, it protects enamel decay, the very thing that happened to me when i was a child, i developed cavities very easily because fluoridation, now i go to the doctor, i go to the dentist and they put fluoride treatment in addition to recommending fluoride in the water. that is because i drink water, you also get a drink at dental visit but it is very important in the right quantities which is what public health monitors to make sure you can prevent tooth decay, protection of your teeth and gums, these are just facts and we have the natural experiment of what happens when you take away those resources and it is not good. again, i don't want to see the united states become the country that they tried to leave where we don't have this public health infrastructure, destroying that is just very dangerous and i have never seen this kind of shock with public health officials like i have seen in the last 24 hours.>> dr. kavita patel , thank you so

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reporters he is strongly against the health ethics committee releasing its report in accusations against matt gaetz. >> it is a terrible breach of protocol. the rules of the house have always been -- i am going to strongly request this order. >> are you going to try to stop it from coming out mark --? >> just to recap what he said at the end, he does not support the release and he's going to suggest that the report not be

released to the house ethics committee, it canceled the scheduled meeting for today which was expected to discuss the report. joining us now, capitol hill correspondent, julie and david road. what are you hearing from lawmakers about this report and whether it should or should not be released and also just a tradition of it versus the requirements?>> really great questions, after not hearing much from the house speaker when it comes to this report, the ethics committee that operates in secrecy and in a bipartisan fashion to make sure they are the checks and balances on their own members here, we just heard from him and he said that, we played the audio, it was tricky to hear but i wanted to add some context to this, mike johnson landed at 3:45 a.m. in washington this morning so he met with donald trump last

night, and now we are hearing from him that he is going to request of the republican chairman of that panel, that this report not be released of matt gaetz, he talks about the precedent that there have been at least two times in history where the ethics committee did released their findings after a member resigned from the office, matt gaetz handed in his resignation letter yesterday, that is what mike johnson is talking about because it isn't customary but it has been done. and certainly senate republicans want to see what the committee has spent years investigating, we talked to so many senate republicans on the judiciary committee, off the judiciary committee who want to see the facts and findings, who don't just want this to go away. the thing is, are they really going to subpoena the house for it? that is unlikely.>> we are just a couple days into this transition and trump has announced matt gaetz as his pick for attorney general, todd

blanche, what are you hearing from within the justice department about those picks?>> we first heard about matt gaetz and there was shock and dismay, and i can talk about that more, but there is no -- more comfort with todd blanche, the challenge with matt gaetz, it is extraordinary, you have a former criminal defendant who criticized and resented the justice department for investigating him, they did not charge him in that case, who will now take over that same department. again, this is the chief law enforcement officer of the united states, he will oversee the fbi, the dea, the atf, crucial national security issues will come before matt gaetz, and it seems like this report, democrats will say this is a cover-up, if this report does not come out, it is a

cover-up, it is something the senate should consider. it is an incredibly important position of the attorney general and it is an unprecedented situation. >> thank you so very much, we have breaking news out of texas, in the last hour, the state's highest court denied a bit from lawmakers to stop the execution of robert roberson after his october 17th execution was halted with hours to spare, he was convicted of murder, sentenced in 2003 for his two-year-old daughters shaken baby death. he maintains his innocence. after a break, i will be joined by gregory meeks for his reaction to all of this that we are seen. it is great to see you, we will chat in just a minute. a minute. c . ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ (♪♪) ♪ yeah i feel free ♪ (♪♪) ♪ to bare my skin yeah that's all me ♪

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>> elon musk met with iran's ambassador to the united nations, the new york times cited two officials who described the meeting as positive, musk, a close adviser to donald trump, sources tell nbc news he is a near constant presence at the transition headquarters at mar-a-lago. joining us now, gregory meeks,

congressman, it is always a treat to have the opportunity to speak with you, first i want your general thoughts and comments on what we have seen from the president-elect as far as who he wants to see as being those that carry out his view for the next four years. >> to me, it would almost be funny if it wasn't so serious. it seems to me that the people he has put in are just loyalists, he is determined not to have what he started out with, with general kelly, individuals who knew and understood what was happening with our national security, he chose to put in individuals who are simply not able to give him good advice other than shake their heads yes to whatever he might say. similarly, as we saw in the past administration, we saw with roundtable individuals,

that just agreed with what he said and not challenged him. we need serious people, experts that understand the substances that challenge the president and talk back and forth through sophisticated and difficult issues, not somebody who is just going to be in their understanding what you want them to say and just say it so they don't have any focus on how to make sure that we are moving forward for our national security interests as well as working with our allies around the world.>> and i was just curious as to your thoughts on this meeting that the new york times is reporting between elon musk and iran's un envoy, it is so complicated, iran is behind the assassination plans against donald trump and others, what do you make of this meeting?>> i don't know the full extent of the meeting

but it is very concerning to me, we don't need a guy that is just a billionaire to go talk to iran, one of the most sensitive national security risks that exist between us, i think it is reckless to do that. anything that elon musk has been involved in, is about himself and how he can make more money. so i'm concerned when i hear that kind of conversation. this is a delicate and important negotiation that we need experts, i think that donald trump for example made a huge mistake, simply pulling out of the agreement that we had in regards to iran and preventing them from having a nuclear weapon, now they are closer to having a nuclear weapon than they ever were before but it takes experts and people to come in, not a

billionaire, looking at how to enhance their business, when you look at his background, it has only been about him and how he enhances his business and how he can make more money, and similarly with the president of the united states, so it seems as though what he's doing and is individuals are coming in hyssop they agree with him. he told you that he could do it by himself, he didn't need anyone else, no one could do it but himself. so i think what he's doing is setting us up, putting in people who really won't have any decision-making process because they really don't have the expertise to give any guidance, so that he can just say this is what i want, and just recently you also heard him say he didn't need to read anything. but, they want to give him a memo or something to read before going into a meeting, he said i don't need to read anything. this is the guy that is re- elected president of the united states and we know this because

we have seen it before. so i think that we are in very serious, serious danger here with reference to our own national security, our relationships, our allies of which president biden had secured, i've got to tell you, when he was first elected, i said to a number of our allies, aren't we glad to be back at the table? they were very happy but they did caution me, they said, but for how long? now you've got issues and they have issues and i'm really concerned about it.>> and i want to ask you about senator marco rubio, he has been a vocal critic of the maduro regime, he has been very focused on latin america, a strong critic of the cuban dictatorship of the nicaraguan dictatorship, how do you see him and his possible role, for example, how the united states deals with venezuela, with

cuba, with nicaragua and i'm also thinking about the reality that is going on in haiti, it seems as though people don't even recognize the suffering and the pain that the haitian people are having to go through day in and day out. what do you think of marco rubio's impact, or positive or negative?>> i hope i get to work with senator rubio. look, as you indicated, the western hemisphere is very important for us, we share this hemisphere together and we have to make sure that our backyard is strong because if we don't make sure of that, then going anyplace else, we will be weaker as a result, so i hope i get to work with him, i agree that when you look at maduro, he lost the past election, there's no question about that,

and the people of venezuela need to have a voice so that they can live a better life in which they want to move forward. the people have spoken there. so i hope we can work with senator rubio in that regards. it's not just going in and having military coups ourselves, or trying to do anything of that nature, but trying to support democracy and working with our allies in the region. it is important that we work with the colombians and the brazilians, and the peruvians. it is important that we work collectively because these are our friends and allies and what happens in venezuela doesn't just affect america, it affects all of us, so it is going to take all of us working in a collaborative way to do that and having that dialogue and conversation. so i hope with senator rubio, i know we don't agree on all things but, i'm willing to work with him so that we can make sure that we are taking care of

our hemisphere and trying to resolve some problems and making sure that democracy and freedom prevails right here on our hemisphere. i look forward to talking with him and working with him so that we can do something of substance and try to see what we can compromise because we are not going to agree on everything. >> congressman gregory meeks, thank you for your time. next, steve goes back to the big board for a deep dive and how the election played out in some of the most highly contested counties across america, you are watching msnbc reports. msnbc reports. oh! un opables now has odor blocker so i'll feel fresh all day, even after a red eye. we all use unstopables. looks like he does to! smell unstopable. ♪ like a relentless weed, moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to break away from uc with tremfya... with rapid relief at 4 weeks. tremfya blocks a key source of inflammation.

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>> while it was impossible to predict the outcome of last week's election, there were a few things that my colleague saw coming and that is the bellwether counties, whose voters decide the whole thing, steve is back at the board with a look at what happened in these counties.>> when the campaign started, we introduced you to these seven counties, they were called the deciders, counties with specific demographic traits, characteristics, regional characteristics, and they are important in deciding how the election turned out nationally. let's check and see, what did the decider counties tell us and how do they help to decide this election? let's start in erie county, pennsylvania, we told you this was the ultimate

swing county of bellwether, they went for donald trump in 2016, 2020, he flipped to joe biden, i think where you see this one is going, in 2024, they are back with donald trump, pennsylvania is back with donald trump. a couple of other bellwethers we have in arizona, maricopa county, that is the mother load, it is phoenix, the massive sprawling phoenix suburbs, four years ago with joe biden, he won by about this much, he became the first democrat in 72 years to carry maricopa, this time around it flipped back to trump, arizona flips back to trump. also in nevada, this is where reno is, this identified as a bellwether, too. there's two population centers, the major one is here in las vegas, clark county, again, reno is in that area, that has

typically been a swing county. the interesting thing happened, trump made a pretty big jump but he didn't quite win, he was actually going to lose this county but he kept the marginal enough, with massive support in those small rural counties between those two cities, that carries trump in nevada, also take a look at michigan, this is kent county, the city of grand rapids. we say to watch that because it is a traditionally republican area but the republican voters hadn't really taken well to trump, he underperformed. well, it didn't get much better but it didn't get worse, that is the headline from kent county. and again, he flipped michigan, the fact that he didn't lose more ground and actually gained back just a little bit, that ended up in a very big win for

him. the other three that are left on the board, miami-dade, gwinnett, georgia and we will zoom out of michigan for a second and go down to florida and show you miami-dade. not that long ago, we were talking about florida as a swing state, it wasn't this time around, trump ended up winning florida by double digits. there's almost the many people in miami-dade county, 70% hispanic, 2016, clinton won this. trump brought it all the way down to a seven point gap, that is a shift of more than 40 points. also, take a look in georgia, going north to georgia, the big atlanta suburbs, when gwinnett county was the decider, harris did win here comfortably, four

years ago, it really turned back the clock compared to clinton in 2016, this has been trending democratic, more than 1 million people in gwinnett county, biden tripled that, it actually came down. why? trump support with hispanic voters, there is a large hispanic population there, the largest of anywhere in the atlanta area, that kept him from losing more ground in gwinnett, very important for him carrying georgia. and wisconsin, another state trump won very narrowly, under 30,000 votes, dane county, huge county, why did we identify this? what is happening in wisconsin, we have been seeing nationally, the democratic supporters are losing ground, all over the country in blue-collar rural areas, that makes it more important for them to run up the score in places like dane

county. a big, high concentration of college degrees. so harris did win overwhelmingly, her margin 188,000, and this is the key. that was an improvement from four years ago, the margin you can see then was about 181,000, but given all of the losses, democrats continue to suffer throughout the vast majority of wisconsin, geographically, those blue-collar areas, she needed to run this number up much higher to offset that. so it was overwhelmingly democrat it, was it enough for them? and the answer was no.>> thank you so much, and joining me now is susan page, washington bureau chief, great seeing you. just listening to some of the things that steve showed us, how do you think democrats are going to focus on places like grand rapids, erie county,

maricopa county, the suburbs of reno, what is it that they are going to be doing after what happened this election? >> don't you love him talking about counties? it must be his favorite thing in the world. you know, it is interesting, because these different counties tell us different things, you look at the county in miami-dade, it tells you how much strength trump had, new strength among hispanic voters but if you look at dane county in wisconsin, it tells you democrats have been turning out the vote in democratic counties like the college towns, that would be an example. one reason is collection of these counties, they are so different with this election, and i believe in every one of these counties, trump did at least a little bit better than he did last time around and that is the story of this election, he won this election

after he lost it in 2020.>> and speaking of wisconsin, as you said, it is a softening of support among blue-collar voters, what did the trump campaign do right to get that softening towards them? >> you know, the trump campaign went after what we have been calling low propensity voters and that is people who are not reliable voters, they have never voted before, they don't regularly go. a lot of them were there disproportionately, they were disproportionately male without college degrees, these are voters he turned out. voters who did not turn out four years ago, eight years ago , that did not turn out for obama. whether he can keep them engaged in politics, we will have to wait and see. his ability to turn out these voters this time around was an enormous source of his strength

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she is definitely not breathing. >> reporter: you can see the police officer watching the body camera video that he had from that day, jose has pleaded not guilty to all of the charges that he faces, earlier this week he waived his right to a jury trial which means that his fate lies in the hands of a judge, but we also anticipate that could make this trial go a little bit faster and we could hear a verdict as soon as next friday.>> thank you so very much, appreciated, that wraps up the hour for me today, i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you so much for your time. . a woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check. tools that help protect.

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