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good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific p.m. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with president-elect donald trump confirming his plan to use the military to remove undocumented migrants from the united states. back on november 8th, a member of the conservative group judicial watch wrote on social media that trump is reportedly planning on declaring a national emergency and using military as sets. trump responded true. he is standing by pete hegseth who is facing scrutiny after it was revealed that he paid a

woman after she maintained sexual assault. his lawyer accuses the woman accusing hegseth and the me too movement. ali, first on president-elect trump's plan to use the military as part of the deportation program, do we have any more details on that? >> reporter: as you mentioned, the president-elect confirming for the first time the details of this controversial plan but when asked for more details, the trump team is saying that they have nothing else to add. however, this -- the details of this plan wouldn't completely be unprecedented. you'll remember back in 2019, the president called for a federal national emergency at the border to be able to access more federal funding for his border wall and then in 2018, he did call for military troops along the border, although the pentagon, at the time, insisted that they were more there for

logistical support rather than to be able to apprehend undocumented migrants. how much further the plan could go in the trump administration is the question especially as we see more hard liners added to this trump administration. >> we are learning the house ethics committee is set to meet wednesday to discuss the report on matt gaetz. what can we expect? >> reporter: an open question right now because the house speaker mike johnson has suggested that it would open up pandora's box if the committee were to release this report after matt gaetz is the subject of this investigation who stepped down from congress and despite the fact there has been precedent. the committee has released reports on members who have left office at least on two different other occasions and there is a continuing ground swell of support from senate republicans to see the contents of that report. maybe they don't see the report itself but they at least want the underlying evidence that went into this report which

could conclude the transcribed interviews with witnesses. this is a very difficult position and we could see a spat between the house and senate as the senate insists on seeing this material fountain house wants to keep it under wraps. it's important to keep in mind, the ethics committee is equal parts republican and democrat so it's not a majority/minority committee. it's the one committee in the house you have the same number from both parties so only takes one republican to break with rest of his party to see that report released so we will see what they come up with on wednesday. >> ryan, listening to the speaker on this issue, it remains unclear whether that report has been concluded or not. >> reporter: i think that is another part of this, right, jose. there is some speculation that they were moving toward wrapping up their investigation and putting the finishing touches on this report, which is part of

the reason perhaps that the former congressman matt gaetz stepped down from his position which happened to coincide with the president-elect naming him as the next attorney general. those are all part of this investigation and the second thing he is no longer a member of congress, they no longer have jurisdiction. they have no way to enforce whatever they drew as a conclusion, as a result of this report. still, that evidence still exists. it's something they still compiled so it is something that the senate could use as part of their confirmation process. >> ryan, any reaction from capitol hill on these new details about pete hegseth? >> reporter: it's still kind of bubbling right now, jose, but i can tell you senate republicans have said that they want all of their -- of all of these potential nominations to go through a rigorous vetting process and that includes fbi background checks and that includes an investigation by the senate judiciary committee or whatever committee the particular nominee would be

going through. in this case, it would be armed services for pete hegseth. so the senate wants all of the information and that would include this information that has now come to light about this alleged sexual assault and encounter with hegseth denying all wrongdoing. the big question we have not figured out yet is how much congress will assertity right as a coequal branch of government and tennis ball the senate when it comes to advice and consent. do they view the loyalty to donald trump and his administration as their top priority? or do they put these nominees through a rigorous process before they vote yes on their confirmation? >> ali, meanwhile, the president-elect has named his picks for other key cabinet positions. what are the key roles we are still waiting on? >> reporter: we saw this steady stream of announcements continue over the weekend with the president-elect picking chris wright as energy secretary and the fcc's top republican brendon

carr to lead that independent agency. he is promoting some top communications people from his campaign to join him in the white house, promoting caroline leavitt what will be the young white house press secretary in history at just 27 years old and, at this point, trump has announced picks for more than half of his cabinet but top jobs to be named including the positions of secretaries of labor and education and treasury. just to give you a few examples. >> ali and ryan, thank you very much both so very much. joining is is mark mckinnon. a creator of "the circus" on showtime and the dean of public service at the university of arkansas is also with us. first on trump's krmgs that he confirmation that he will use

military operations on mass deportations. is there any precedent for something as broad based as using military assets for deportations? >> we know trump will do anything within the law and perhaps beyond the law. he will revert to 1798 law so-called the alien enemies act which has been used several times but in true acts of war, but the definition is not just declared act of war. it's also for attempted invasion or predatory incursions. you can certainly imagine how trump would expand the definition under this administration. this was used in 1955 when the then president eisenhower tried to use the military and was barred from that. but in operation, they went back and chose to use national guard troops as a way of enforcing

these laws. given what we have seen in recent past, jose, with particularly republican governors in support of donald trump, kristi noem comes to mind and sending national guard troops to texas. i think the answer is he will do anything and everything within his power and beyond his power and certainly test his powers because this was the first thing he talked about coming down the escalator in 2016 and it's the last thing he talked about in 2020. this is his top priority. >> with that top priority and vast power of the executive, how do you see this, you know, essentially confirmation that the president-elect made just this morning that he would be using military assets? >> right. so this is something that he had talked about and also it's something not entirely new from my historical sense.

mark mentioned operation -- where we did not see the actual military being used at the time we had seen the head border patrol under eisenhower wanting to use it, was desperate to use it and, actually, he was held back. there had already been a framework for doing that when there was a perceived crisis on the border. that being said, let's think about the magnitude. the high estimates of operation wetback where about a 1 million folks and folks think it was close to 500,000. today we estimate about 20 million undocumented individuals in the united states. so i really am scratching my head and thinking about what this would look like in terms of the scale and the size bureaucratically speaking in terms of this. i think this is why donald trump is going to try to justify the use of the military sheerly because of the scale, in addition to how he is labeling

this as an affront on the national sovereignty of the united states. >> victoria, the trump team appears to be standing behind the president-elect's pick for secretary of defense pete hegseth. how big of an obstacle do you think this will be for his confirmation? >> i think in this instance we have a senate that is majority republican. the senate is trying to assert his power but the president is asserting that he has a mandate. he won the popular vote and the electoral college vote. the other piece of is that you see a number of new senators that had come in after trump's first administration. so i do think that there is a different climate. you know, i'm in a tossup right now whether how much pushback there is going to be but compared to where we were maybe five or ten years ago, i do see a potential path for this controversial nominee. >> mark, how do you see it?

is there a path forward for this nominee? what about other controversial ones? i'm thinking, for example, you know, gaetz. >> well, jose, i think it's pretty clear that people in republican circles feel they have a huge mandate and that they are going to turn on the fire hoses for maga land if anybody tries to resist any of these nominations, as problematic as they may be. it's just hard, given the results of the election, it's going to be very difficult for anybody to stand up to these nominations. lisa murkowski comes to mind and a couple of others but they are going to get an absolute, you know, flame throwers coming from trump supporters on these nominations so they really going to have sturdy to stand up and mitch mcconnell may throw in his weight for one last hooray.

i think this is a case politics is going to trump everything and i think that trump will push through, you know, all of these nominations. he is not going to be back off for sure and the most problematic is matt gaetz and we will see what happens. i bet on most of those confirmations going through. >> even dni and tulsi gabbard, you think those will have, mark, any different kind of nomination obstacles? >> i really don't, jose. i think, if anything, i think what could happen is the gaetz might go down for all of the obvious reasons and he becomes a sacrificial lamb that allows everybody else to go through. >> mark mckinnon and victoria desoto, thank you. sounding the alarm on what doj and fbi officials are doing right now to prepare for the incoming trump administration. overseas, a major escalation in russia's war in ukraine as president biden clears the way

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15 past the hour. during the president campaign, donald trump threatened to investigate and even prosecute or imprison and otherwise punish his perceived enemies. now president-elect seems to be walking that back saying in a new interview with fox news digit, quote, i am not looking for a retribution, grandstanding or destroying people who treated me unfairly or even badly beyond comprehension. matt gaetz nomination for the attorney general has heightend some fears of potential revenge prosecutions that nbc news learned that doj and fbi officials have been reaching out to lawyers in anticipation of being criminally investigated by the trump administration. joining us now is david rhodes of national security who helped break the story. and a former federal prosecutor. how are folks in the justice department preparing for what could lie ahead? >> many of them are reaching out

to lawyers, so are fbi officials. one i spoke to, they did not want to be named or didn't want to talk about what trump investigation she worked on but they feel they didn't do anything wrong and they did everything by book but they sort of said but this is a new world where at least he feels that there isn't anything wrong with the investigations that were conducted against president trump by the doj and fbi, but many of the president-elect supporters do feel that and they are pushing for investigations. so its un clear at this point, you know, how this will unfold. >> david, so what are the fears? like, you know, they think that they did a good job, but what are their fears of what could potentially be coming towards them? >> under the immunity ruling by the supreme court this spring, that gave the president the power to -- since watergate, it

was a normally and would not or could not call up the attorney general and say, i want you to investigate this specific person for a crime. that was seen as improper and it could be political influence on criminal investigates. the supreme court said that acceptable. the worst-case scenario for these folks is that donald trump calls matt gaetz if he is nominated or who the attorney general is and says i want you to investigate everyone involved in the january 6th indictment against mean and the classified documents against me. a special counsel could be named and take a long time investigating this so that is the threat for people who worked on these cases and, again, by the book they knew how much pressure was gocket ing to be os and how much scrutiny so they were careful. the dangers in the long-term is that this intimidates people and

showing if you investigate president trump, you, yourself, will be investigated and there will be a real hesitation that already exists where some folks in the doj and fbi won't want to, you know, deal with a political sense of a trump investigation and they will see it as a career ender and not worth the risk. >> what are you hearing from your former colleagues inside the justice department? >> yeah. i think there is a lot of fear, a lot of apprehension right now and i think people are asking themselves two questions. the first is this new administration going to impede their ability to do the practical work of their day-to-day cases, right? are they still going to have the support, the resources, and the independence to do the day-to-day work that prosecutors, law enforcement do every day? that may not change significantly but i think the second thing that remember grappling with is how is the tone from the top going to change? is this still going to be a justice department that values transparency, that values ethics

and integrity? and if people don't trust that the leaders are going to be, you know, on those values and really continue to carry out the work of the justice department, that means i think you may see a lot of career people wondering if this is now a time to find a new career path for themselves. >> i'm just wondering, it, how did we get to a part where people believe there is law fare in the justice department and how have we gotten to this point? >> because utah, it's been politicized. people working in the justice department, a department of more than 100,000 people the majority are not political appointees. i worked next to people in officials i had no idea what political party they belonged to and they did not know what i was

either. take the jobs because they care about public service. these are people that did not come the to doj with the intent of doing any kind of political work. they wanted to do law enforcement or cases on behalf of the united service and core public service work. because it has gotten so politicized the last few years with this discourse how the doj can be used as a political weapon, it really undercuts just this tremendous work that men and women do every day that has no connection to anything political. >> david and berit, thank you both very much. the kremlin's new warning now that the u.s. is allowing ukraine to use long-range weapons against russia. a live update on day two in the murder trial of an undocumented migrant charged with murdering nursing susan laken riley. murdg nursing susan laken riley. les i? boring does.

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25 past the hour. a major shift. president biden is now authorizing ukraine to use u.s. supplied long-range weapons to strike inside russia according to two u.s. officials. now, the easing of these restrictions comes as north korea has deployed thousands of troops to support russian forces fighting in ukraine. while this as russia unleashed its largest air strike on

ukraine in almost three months yesterday and kill seven people and severely damaging the power grid. joining us now is nbc senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell who is traveling with the president for the g20 summit in brazil. good morning. ukraine has been asking the u.s. here for permission to do this pretty much from the start of the war. why the change and why the change now? >> reporter: good to be with you, jose. the u.s. government is not formally and publicly talking about this but they are providing kax.context. u.s. officials have confirmed this information to us but the president did not address it in his remarks today and other senior officials we talked to are not confirming it on the record but they are saying russia has escalated by having north korean troops coming to their country to help fortify their war against ukraine and that that is an escalation. in addition to the assault you just remarked on in terms of

russia ramping up its own intense knit fight. and u.s. officials say that they have communicated with russia all along, that their escalation would cause different decisions and new tactical approaches from the united states in its support of ukraine. so that may explain the why and why now. president biden has said publicly that ukraine needs further support and here is part of how he did address it publicly here at the g20. the g0 our understanding additional authorization for limited use and it's not a blanket green light to use american-made weapons inside russia.

again, the specifics of all of that are not being discussed publicly, but it is a way to show strength and support for ukraine. of course, the backdrop to all of this, two months remaining in the biden term of office and president trump coming in as the new president has different views on support for ukraine and has talked publicly wanting to see that war wound down almost instantly, claiming he can do that. while president biden is with other world leaders, he is talking about how to support ukraine. importantly those comments he just made were in the group of nations and russia is represented here at the g20, not by vladimir putin, but by his foreign minister lavrov. >> kelly o'donnell with the medal for the best backdrop of the day with a look there at

rio de janeiro. >> what do you lie for the u.s. to use long-range weapons to strike inside russia? >> i think it's a political move by the united states to respond to aggression, escalation by putin. i think the military effects on every additional weapon system helps but it's too little, too late to have any decisive impact on the outcome of the fight. maybe it will help ukraine hold on to kirsk. to announcing this the pentagon has to approve each target because they have to provide the specific targeting information in a certain format, defeat into the missile. so this, as kelly said, this is far from being a sort of let's have at them decision. this is a very retrained decision and has a certain

political message. >> what is that message? because it's a political gesture, a political message you're saying, general. what is that message when we are really just two months, what, a little bit over two months before a new administration comes in. >> i think it's a message that says we are going to continue to providing more resources to keep ukraine in this fight following the policy decisions of the biden administration, which is don't get into a confrontation with russia but don't let ukraine lose. problem with the policy, just to be very, very clear is wars don't work that way. 23 nwar you need escalation dominance. we gave up on that. in war you need to concentrate resources and go after the size of objectives and we are not enabling the ukrainians to do that. so, really, this thing is stalled out right now. and has been stalled out as a

deliberate policy of the biden administration. the result is some of my ukrainian colleagues and friends told me when i was in new york a few weeks ago, 50,000 ukrainian young people now need prosthetics. it's that bad and each one of these go through not just one amputation but two or three amputations because the battlefield -- this is an extremely costly policy we followed for ukraine. it has not led ukraine to victory but it has prevented defeat. >> that stalemate policy is completely opposed to how russia has been carrying this invasion out. i mean, bloomberg now reporting that north korea may deploy as many as thousand troops to help russia in its war against ukraine if the alliance between the two countries continue to

deepen. this is something russia has not been limiting their efforts, general. >> well, that's true. russia went in first with a mistake and plan thinking they could seize it with an intelligence type operation and get rid of zelenskyy. when that failed, their military just wasn't capable, even though it had superior forces of creating decisive operations. and so they have done at this grinding offensive. but this is characteristic. russian military i have to say. they never really understood the training and skills required at the bottom of the military organization to be effective. they continue these meat grinder attacks. that is characteristic of russian style going back into world war ii. and while they haven't used nuclear weapon, they are using a lot of other things we don't typically hear like chemical weapons and they are using thermal barracks and it's all against international law. and under the united nations

charter, every nation should come in to help ukraine defend and retain its territory. >> meanwhile, general, nbc news has exclusive reporting the trump transition team is compiling former and current military offices who were involved in the disastrous deployment of afghanistan. what do you make of that, general? >> i think it's -- first of all, i think it's politically the wrong thing to do. i don't think that that should be done. i don't think you can go back and get people later. but let's say it goes forward. i think if you really look at the evidence, you're going to find two things. number one is the conditions for the disastrous withdrawal were set actually by the trump administration and by the president, himself, when he executed that plan and ignored the afghans and so forth.

but i think you're going to also find that the generals in the effort were under political instructions by the biden administration to get out as soon as possible no matter what. when you look at that i think you'll find maybe some mistakes somewhere but they were doing what they basically told to do. >> thinking of this extraordinary experience that you have and your knowledge of history, you know, when you were talking about the u.n. and its role and importance, for example, in issues like what is going on in russia and ukraine, but i'm taken back to when i visited the killing fields and what was going on there where the blue helmets were there and they did nothing. how do you, general, bring in these organizations that have charters that in critical times don't do anything?

>> the united nations is useful in some circumstances, jose, but without strong backing from the united states, it's not useful in the most difficult circumstances. it didn't work in bosnia and we had to put nato in there but if you look at it today in haiti, if you look at what is ing on in haiti where the united states is now calling for a u.n. force to go in to haiti. again, without u.s. leadership and without u.s. technology and the ability to actually go after the gangs and so forth, that united nations, of course, is not going to be effective in haiti. >> general wesley clark, a pleasure to see you and thank you four time. >> thank you, jose. day two of the trial of the undocumented migrant of accused of killing nursing student laken riley who we are expecting to hear from this week.

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40 past the hour. right now, the undocumented venezuela in any migrant accused of killing georgia nursing student laken riley is back in court. these are pictures inside that courtroom and house of the

courthouse is our reporter. give us update what is going on today. >> reporter: we are on the 14th witness that the state is presenting right now. that is an fbi special agent from the athens field office. really the state prosecution thinks that they have a slam dunk case. they say they have friendsic and digital video evidence that ties this murder to jose ibarra himself and they were able to find dna from him and fingerprints discovered on her cell phone that they say riley tried to call 911 the day she was murdered. we heard from a star witness today who was one of jose ibara's roommates. she met him in new york which is where he first moved when he went to the united states and she followed him down here to athens, georgia.

she is going to be able to identify him from a surveillance video that the prosecution is saying shows jose ibarra getting rid of the bloodied clothes after he committed that murder. >> do you recognize anybody in that video? [ speaking in a global language ] >> who do you see in that video? [ speaking in a global language ] >> how do you recognize him? [ speaking in a global language ] >> the cap. and the loafers. >> reporter: jose ibarra has pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. he actually waived his right to a jury trial last week so this is all being conducted as a bench trial which means that the judge inside of the courtroom behind me will be determining his fate and any potential sentencing. jose? >> thank you very much.

president biden just released a statement condemning a neonazi demonstration in columbus, ohio. on saturday, a group mannered through the city waving flags with swastikas and shouting racist slurs. joining is aaron gilchrist. what did the president say about this? use good morning. >> reporter: good morning. we are seeing this happening over the weekend. the white house calling it a sickening display. our nbc affiliate in columbus reported that this small group marched through part of that city on saturday afternoon and they were carrying black flags with red swastikas and wearing masks and chanting slurs into a bull horn there. white house spokesperson andrew bates said, quote. he went on take say this march, quote, comes during a rise in

anti-semitic violence that is a crisis the american people should all come together against. ohio's governor mike dewine out with a quick statement calling this display vile and racist and saying on social media there is no place in this state for hate, bigotry, anti-semitism or violence and must denounce it wherever we see it. there was a second march on sunday and our columbus affiliate reporting it was a group of about 30 black men who said they were standing up to fear saying that it's important to practice community care in times like these and this march does follow a week after demonstrators waved flags outside of a theater and asked to move away and they did. this is drawing concern about the unsettling activities creating this sentiment of fear and anxiety in communities across the country. jose? >> aaron gilchrist, thank you very much. up next, new reporting about

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president-elect trump is signaling a major move when it

comes to immigration. responding true to a social media post saying he will declare a national emergency and use military assets for his mass deportation program. this comes as "the new york times" reports people in the u.s. under temporary protected status which gives them the right to live and work here legally, could be among trump's first targets. with us now is homeland security' immigration reporter from "the new york times." ahmed, thank you for being with us this morning. what more are you learning about what donald trump's mass deportation operation could look like? >> well, we are still in the early stages of figuring it out what that operation would look like. i think one thing to keep in mind is that there are only a limited number of ice officers and agents that dhs has to be able to carry out such a deportation operation. to do -- to carry out the promises that president-elect trump has made, he would need to bring in other agencies, other local law enforcement officers

to help him make sure they can deport these major numbers of over one million, hundreds of thousands of people and you would need much more as far as resources go. >> yeah. you wrote over the weekend that, quote, one of the president-elect's targets this time is a decades old program providing temporary legal status of 1 million immigrants from dangerous and deeply troubled countries such as haiti and venezuela. who exactly do you think could be targeted? i mean, would be it all of the nearly 1 million tps recipients or certain groups? i mean, we have to remember that there are, you know, a couple of hundred thousands people from salvador under tps for decades now and haiti and venezuela and so many others. >> i would say as far as the temporary protective status, president trump in his first go-round moved to remove those protections from folks from

haiti, folks from nepal, several other countries. i think we can expect that this go-round as well and he says he intends to strip tpa for deportations. when it comes to deportations, people who have final deportation orders in the united states, ice estimated around 1 million people are in that bucket. those are folks perhaps that the trump administration could look at to remove quickly. >> so i'm just thinking back as far as history. i mean, there was a moment there that during the obama administration, about 420,000 people were being deported every single year. what was it that that administration utilized as far as different assets? because you were just telling us there just aren't the numbers required, for example, just border patrol, et cetera. what are some of the assets that were used back then that maybe could be seen to be used now?

>> so a lot of those deportations during the obama administration took place near the southern border and that is generally where a lot of deportations take place. one thing to keep in mind is that when ice officers go out into the communities and target folks for arrests, it takes a lot of time. i've been on ice operations before. just to starting an arrest one person takes several officers and it takes a lot of time and research into the movements of an individual target. so many resources are needed just to pick up a few hundred people. so taking a step back and looking at this population of 1 million perhaps deportation orders, it would take so many officers and agents to handle just this group. >> thank you for being with us. aappreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. up next, breaking this

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57 past the hour and we are following breaking news. spirit airlines has fileded for chapter 11 bankruptcy in a growing debt. joining us is dominic chu. what does this mean for

travelers and thousands of employees? >> sure, this could change the landscape of commercial travel in america and maybe not in the best way. for right now, customers are are not going to notice any difference. the bankruptcy filing is a legal necessity for spirit to start the process of trying to reorganize and trying to become more financially viable in some ways. spirit expects to continue normal operations as p works out a deal to remain flying. a note to customers earlier today said quote, the more important thing to note is that you can continue to book and fly now and in the future. spirit has already reached a deal with the parties that own the airlines' debt to get some additional money as it works through the restructuring process. these are shorterterm solutions and questions remain about the longer term future for the budget airlines. spirit has not made money since

before the covid-19 pandemic in 2019. this year alone it has lost over $335 million and that was in the first half of the year. in order to save some of the cash, it furloughed some 200 pilots in september and plans to furlough another 330 pilots later on in january. remember, you mentioned a deal that was blocked by a federal judge to be acquired by jet blue. in some ways, they will have to find a partner to merge with or see if they can continue flying. >> dominic chu, thank you so much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz balart. and you can watch our shows on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. >> right now on andrea mitchell reports, new fears over vladimir putin's reaction after president biden ges