trump will be back in the oval office. what it means for the charges accusing bannon of taking millions from donors who wanted to build the border wall. an undocumented immigrant accused of killing a student. face-to-face with his former roommate as he takes the stand. we will have the latest on the trial of lincoln reilly. we begin with the white house. strongly condemning a neo-nazi rally in ohio. aaron gilchrist is following it for us. aaron, what can you tell us about this? >> reporter: chris, the white house joining a chorus of voices condemning the display we saw in ohio over the weekend. we saw statement from the white house where the president called it a sickening display. i will show you exactly what we got from a spokesperson. he said president biden abhors the hateful poison of -ism,

anti-semitism, and racism which are hostile to everything the united states stands for including the dignity of our citizens and the freedom to worship. our affiliates from columbus, ohio said saturday afternoon this group of people marched through columbus wearing red masks and carrying black flags as you see in the video taken by eyewitnesses with the swastika on the flag there. men were yelling into a bullhorn racist, anti-semitic, hateful terms. the governor putting out a statement over the weekend saying that he too condemns this issue calling on others to condemn it as well and this comes just a week after we saw a similar display in michigan. a small group of people gathering outside a community theater during a production of the diary of an flank -- and frank carrying nazi flags as an indication of a desire to sort of put out these sorts of

displays in an effort to intimidate people and cause fear, chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you. president-elect trump is standing by his pick for defense secretary, pete hegseth, whose lawyer is denying the allegations against hegseth. allie raffa joins us from west palm beach, florida with the latest on this controversy. >> reporter: yes, chris. controversy only growing around hegseth as it was revealed he made an accuser of sexual assault pay -- i'm sorry, he paid an accuser of sexual assault and made her sign a nondisclosure agreement. the washington post disclosing over the weekend the woman's friend sent a memo that msnbc has not seen to the trump team alleging hegseth, quote, raped the staffer in his room after

drinking at a hotel bar after 2017 republican women conference in california. attorney insists his client was innocent, saying it was fully investigated by police, video surveillance, as well as multiple eyewitnesses show she was the aggressor. mr. hegseth is completely innocent. it wasn't until a couple of years later after she lost her job she tried to squeeze hegseth for money. hegseth paid her out of fear of losing his job at fox news at the height of the me too movement. doubling down on their support for hegseth even after these new revelations, we heard from a communications director in a statement this morning saying mr. hegseth has vigorously denied any and all accusations and no charges were filed. we look forward his confirmation as united states secretary of defense so he can get started on day one to make america safe and great again. chris, these details only adding to lawmakers' concerns

about hegseth and he will no doubt his questions about this and other controversies that he has been involved in when his confirmation process begins in january, chris. >> allie raffa, thank you. 19 days after he walked out of prison, steve bannon's criminal fraud trial has been delayed until after his old boss is back in office. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here with more. what are the implications of this trial getting pushed back, lisa? >> reporter: chris, i know it looks like a defeat for the prosecutor from the manhattan d.a. 's office but this is a victory for them. the reason the trial is being pushed back, today in court they argued they wanted to include additional evidence they say is reflective of steve bannon's motive to help out with the fund-raising scheme at the heart of these charges. you will remember charges emanate from bannon's involvement in fundraising for an organization called we build the wall.

in court today prosecutors arguing that bannon's motive and indications of how the money moved from we build the wall to other people in this scheme was reflective of bannon's own involvement and why he wanted to be involved. they say bannon convinced himself he could use the fund- raising risk we build the wall was building for his own personal benefit. the fact former and future president trump is returning to office should be of the moment, chris. donald trump will not be able to pardon steve bannon from a state criminal conduct. >> lisa rubin, thank you. prosecutors called more key witnesses today to the trial of jose ibarra the man accused of killing laken reilly . priya sridhar is outside of the courthouse in athens, georgia. tell us more about today's testimony, priya. >> reporter: that's right. they say they have digital

evidence that ties jose ibarra to the murder of laken reilly in february. they were able to uncover dna underneath laken reilly's fingernails when she was attempting to fight off jose ibarra from raping her . they were able to recover a fingerprint from laken reilly 's cell phone when she attempted to call 911 that day and jose ibarra tried to stop her. we heard from jose ibarra's roommate at the time who was able to identify him from a surveillance video which prosecutors say show jose ibarra discarding the bloody clothing that he was wearing at the time he committed the crime into a dumpster outside of an apartment complex. we heard from an fbi special agent who showed pictures, selfies that jose ibarra had allegedly taken the day of the murder and posted to his own snapchat account. we are hearing testimony from

an fbi specialist who will be showing off a jailhouse phone call between jose ibarra and his wife. the defense is saying all of this evidence is circumstantial and they can't prove jose ibarra actually sexually assaulted laken riley. they seem to be suggesting perhaps one of jose ibarra's brothers who he happened to live with at the time could be the one withholding his phone because they all shared that phone and they are showing different social media accounts used on that phone. jose ibarra did waive his right to a jury trial which means this is all being conducted as a bench trial. the judge in the courtroom behind me will determine both his fate and any potential sentencing. chris? >> priya sridhar, thank you. in 90 seconds, is a law and order or retribution and revenge? why the justice department is hiring lawyers ahead of a second trump administration. one lawyer's advice? take a vacation overseas.

a sense of alarm is building among officials at the justice department and fbi who are bracing for possible revenge prosecutions from the upcoming trump administration. some civil servants who work on a government salary have proactively reached out to lawyers according to three people with knowledge of their deliberations.

they are worried about the effect of long and costly legal battles. joining me in studio, nbc news senior executive editor david rohde who reported this story and a former federal prosecutor at msnbc and legal analyst, it is good to have you here, david. we have been hearing and you have been reporting there is some nervousness about what might happen about frankly what has been said about the plans for going after people who they feel unfairly went after them. but how has the choice of matt gaetz changed the equation, or has it? >> reporter: it has and that has made the difference. there were worries about congressional investigations but gaetz really surprised a lot of people in the doj. >> everywhere. >> reporter: he's a lawyer but he has no experience prosecuting cases. he's a firebrand loyalist and a supporter of president trump. it seemed like the choice trump

trusts and someone who given the ethics investigation sort of owes trump -- trump is protecting him by giving him this new job just before the ethics report comes out and it has raised fears there could be criminal investigations and prosecutions by the trump administration of career doj and fbi officials. >> how would you quantify or can you quantify the level of concern right now? >> reporter: limited. people are worried about long investigations and a special counsel's appointment who will look at these investigations. could go on for years. people are not concerned about being convicted and sent to jail. one fbi official or former officials that we did everything aboveboard but this is a different world and we have to prepare for something like this. to be convicted, trump can

order the attorney general to investigate people. that is possible because of the supreme court's ruling in the spring but to be convicted you need a judge to sign off there is probable cause of guilt and you need a jury to convict so there is not fear of going to jail. >> glenn, they believe their work is aboveboard and in many cases leaving them baffled about what criminal charges could be brought against him. what kind of case could a trump loyalist be able to bring or at least think about bringing? >> reporter: a vindictive, frivolous case, a case not supported by any evidence of which we are aware. chris, we saw a preview in the first trump administration when john durham was appointed special counsel to do, what? investigate the investigators who investigated donald trump and what do we know? that investigation produced two trials, both were soundly rejected by the jury with not guilty vertex.

when you have a candidate like donald trump make a pledge that he will be your retribution, this feels like it will be donald trump's revenge tour. just the fact of lengthy investigations and prosecutions, even if they are vindictive and promptly dismissed by the federal bench, it is still going to take a toll on people. i do believe, chris, the federal judiciary, court judges in washington, d.c. where most of these investigations will be run and cases brought, if any, the federal judiciary will stand against frivolous and vindictive prosecutions but that does not mean people won't suffer if they are put through having to defend against a frivolous prosecution. >> we have heard from enough people talked about what it is, david, when someone brings a lawsuit, a frivolous lawsuit.

obviously there is a cost, right? even consulting with a lawyer may incur a cost if it actually came to the point where there were charges against him that goes up exponentially. pensions potentially could be at stake and the emotional cost and the fear many people have expressed not just for themselves but for their families. >> reporter: in the first term, the director of the fbi's pension was revoked. that was a real shot across the battle. a lot of civil servants don't make that much money. fbi agents have to work 20 years before they get any kind of pension. you are essentially deterring -- it is a sign to people not to investigate donald trump. if you do, you will pay a heavy cost for it. i saw some of this already in the mar-a-lago investigation. no one wanted to work on that case. they hoped trump would turn the documents back into the government but did not because they saw it as a lose lose

case. it will derail your career and this is a dangerous thing because you should have people who want -- when there is a legitimate investigation, you need fbi agents and prosecutors to carry that out. >> glenn, politico spoke to an attorney who are afraid of becoming targets. his advice? take a vacation overseas around the inauguration. what does that tell us about, you know, seriously how people are looking at this? and i think a lot of that does speak to the emotional toll or the fear that some people have in not knowing what might happen. >> reporter: chris, the men and women of law enforcement were given an assignment and directed to investigate possible crime whether there is enough evidence to open a criminal investigation should not later find themselves retaliated against. you know, being advised to flee the country to protect

themselves. that is so corrosive to good government and, you know, but when you have donald trump sing he will not only be retribution but pledging multiple times he will use the military to go after his political opponents, you know, it feels like an unconstrained donald trump can really do a lot of damage to the institutions that he will sit atop. >> all right, let me bring in ryan nobles on capitol hill. we have learned the house ethics committee is expected to meet wednesday now to discuss the matt gaetz report. what are you hearing about that? where do senate republicans stand on confirming him? >> reporter: the biggest evidence we have so far that house republicans will stand in the way of the ethics report ever seen the light of day is the speaker of the house himself has called it opening pandora's box to release a report on a member that is already left congress. previously mike johnson said he

didn't want to get himself in any way, shape, or form with the work of the ethics committee so to put himself out there demonstrates a willingness by republicans to prevent this information from seeing the light of day but on the other side of the capitol, senate republicans are the ones thing they need to see what is in this report. maybe they don't get to see the report itself, they at least want to see the underlying information. perhaps the witnesses put forward and the evidence that has been collected -- take a listen to some of what we heard over the weekend. >> should the house ethics committee release that report, senator? >> absolutely, and i believe the senate should have access to that. the senate has to advise these individuals and in the process we will get matt gaetz the same chances as all nominees. >> matt gaetz is a lawyer and he's very good on his feet.

he knows how to interrogate people. we need a fighter and president trump needs a fighter but the main thing for trump, he needs loyalty. >> reporter: and so the question becomes will there be some sort of standoff between the senate and house over this information? for the most part, chris. the two sides share information pretty willingly. the ethics committee from one end of the capitol will often give that information to the other end of the capitol without much resistance. with one of the sites subpoenaing that information from the other side of the legislature, we may be in uncharted territory and if these senators feel they need this information in order to vote on this confirmation, we could find ourselves in an unprecedented situation as the confirmation process moves forward. >> ryan nobles, david rohde, thank you. glenn, if you could stick around. there is a hush money case, the

one in which he was convicted on 34 counts and the das office has to respond by tomorrow morning on how it proceeds with that case now that he is the president-elect. sentencing is slated for next week. at least as of now. tell me what you are expecting. >> reporter: i'm expecting judge merchan to issue a ruling on whether the supreme court's presidential immunity decision has any impact on the 34 felony convictions, the guilty verdicts returned by the jury in donald trump selection interference hush money falsifying business records case. i do think judge merchan should and probably will issue a ruling. i suspect that ruling will be those convictions survived the supreme court's presidential immunity ruling foreign umbel -- for a number of reasons. then the question becomes what happens next? does the case end up being

dismissed because he will be a sitting president? we all know the doj has a policy that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted while in office. by operation of the supremacy clause, that would result in a pause of state court prosecutions while donald trump was in office but he could be sentenced after he left office so there are a lot of moving pieces in this one, chris. we will learn quite a bit more tomorrow when d.a. bragg stakes out his position as how he thinks procedurally this case should progress. >> glenn kirschner, thank you for that. stick around. kari lake has filed a defamation suit put against her. stephen richard filed the claim last year, accusing lake of falsely suggesting intentionally sabotaged the election after she lost her 2022 gubernatorial

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vast. donald trump responded to a truth social post about reports he will declare a national emergency and use military assets for his promised mass deportation program. gabe gutierrez is following this for us. of course, this isn't the first time he has promised to use the military as enforcement but what more do we know about his latest post? >> reporter: chris, good afternoon. what we heard from the so- called borders are -- border czar tom homan says he will meet with donald trump and put the final touches on their plan. he says he's unsure what the budget will be for i.c.e. but the administration plans to work with congress to secure funding for this project. chris, as you mentioned, this is not the first time donald trump has sent troops were promised to send troops to the

border. in the first trump administration he declared a national emergency as you see right there. in 2018, he did send troops to the southern border. we should be clear, they were not involved in deportations. they did logistical support for border protection. you can see video of them there installing barbed wire and putting up medical tents but that was used as a deterrent. chris, a lot of unanswered questions how this will look this time around but the incoming administration has not put a price tag on this. president-elect trump telling kristen welker there was no price tag because it was so important. immigration rights groups estimate the cost to be about $90 billion a year, so there are a lot of questions right now about exactly how much this will cost and the specifics of the plan as well, chris. >> let's see if we get any answers after that mar-a-lago meeting.

gabe gutierrez, thank you. what would it mean for women in the military to have someone accused of sexual assault as defense secretary? a study in august at brown university found the number of sexual assaults in the u.s. military is likely two to four times higher than government estimates and found on average over the course of the war in afghanistan 24% of active-duty women were sexually assaulted. the attorney for trump's defense pick, pete hegseth, confirmed to nbc news he paid a woman a settlement after she accused him of a sexual assault although his lawyer says the 2017 and counter was consensual. joining us now is the ceo of the iraq and afghanistan veterans of america. she served two tours in iraq and we thank you for your duty. what could it mean for someone in the military to have someone accused of sexual assault as defense secretary? >> like any organization the tone is set at the top so i

don't know if it sets a great tone and it's also very important. we have a recruiting crisis and we need a culture in the military people are wanting to raise their hand and step up and serve. again, the culture gets set from the top and if we are not setting a good culture we will have military readiness issues. it's more than just individuals impacted by the culture. a national security problem. >> there have been problems over the years for filling the need in the various services. it's not just recruitment. it is staying in, right? could it become discouraging for those within the military because they have been seeing some efforts, right? to address this problem? >> it is an age-old story of people making the decision not to serve anymore because they served under poor leadership. poor leadership that high up in

the rings could have cascading effects on the course. >> beyond the active duty military, a pentagon report showed one in five female students in the academies reported being victims of unwanted sexual contact between 2021 and 2022. i once asked a member of congress who served in the military, a woman, whether my godchild who was considering going into one of the service academies should do it, and she said no. she asked me detailed questions, but the pentagon had long ago pledged to address it. are you concerned, or are you hearing any concern efforts to address the problem will go away or be diminished? >> i haven't heard anything to this point. i will say the current administration is taking a lot of leadership in terms of making this a priority at the defense secretary level.

you know, the military, like any organization, will take time for change to fully be implemented. but i think, you know, the key to that is accountability and overtime leaders have been held accountable. people are going to be coming forward with sexual assaults even though the person who assaulted them is going to be held accountable but also the leader who is leading an organization allowing, you know, servicemembers to think that's okay. and so, you know, there is a lot of work that needs to be done in that regard but we have moved, you know, in a really good direction, even though there seems to be a persistent problem in the military. but we have moved in a pretty good direction since, you know, the start of the iraq and afghanistan he wars. >> pete hegseth said women shouldn't have combat roles. and a former cia analyst at the

department of defense talked about the impact he is already seeing. >> there is absolute, like, hallway constant chatter and conversation and concern from senior women officers, but i've also heard from folks i've recommended to service academies, young women starting off their careers saying can i actually accomplish what i want to accomplish here? it is not an understatement to say there is real stress in the force right now. >> in 2022, women made up 17% of all active-duty military personnel. are you concerned of hegseth's views of women in combat? we talked about the big picture but that could suppress recruitment and advancement of women in the military. >> his comments are disappointing. hegseth is two years older than me. he served in the wars fought on an asymmetric battlefield.

you couldn't avoid combat if you tried. you know, outdated views giving his experience are really disappointing. you know, i would say it's also, you know, worthwhile for the viewers to know women are graduating from school with a 50% failure rate. they are objectively physically and mentally more tough than many other men who are serving. maybe not every woman will find themselves in a combat role, but there are definitely women that are tough enough and i've experienced in my time serving overseas in combat women rise to the challenge over and over again while i saw my male counterparts not make the moment. you know, it would be nice to say, yeah, they not only appreciate and acknowledge that reality but have a department that acknowledges that reality.

i have to say, it's disappointing. >> you point out something very important. no one goes into the rangers or any other field that requires, you know, the kind of training and competition that you have to have before you are able to go, women are not given special treatment. they have to meet those standards, just as anyone does. allison jaslow, again, thank you so much for your service and the service you continue to provide. >> thinks you for having me, chris. still to come to, the oxford high school shooter and his parents behind bars. why does the community say those prosecutions are not enough? the questions they want answered next on msnbc.

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families in michigan say they still don't have the answers they deserve nearly three years after the deadly mass shooting at oxford high school. today they are demanding a state led investigation. >> it has been three years since the shooting and we have not implemented real change. it is time for the governor to stop making excuses. >> it is difficult, living in that home with all of these questions in your mind and you can't move to the next chapter. it is hard to move forward. >> glenn kirschner is back with

me and a steven romo joins me here in studio. the school board passed a resolution. they were going to look into it and that didn't happen? >> reporter: they launched an investigation. there was a 500 page report that was the result of that but the investigation did not have subpoena power so people chose not to take part in it. they didn't have to but these families are asking for a full investigation and independently with subpoena power so people have the force to speak about what happened. the families continually said today don't we want to learn from this? here is a bit more on what they had to say. >> families have gone to every level of government to get the same answer. >> we have tried to discuss with leadership both the senate majority leader and speaker of the house. we were put off until two weeks

ago when i managed to have conversations with their staff. a repeated task has been declined. >> reporter: michigan's ag said she needed probable cause to launch an investigation. as of late august the school board as well as the state school board have both passed legislation asking to launch and fund an investigation to get into this. these families say it's not just about holding people responsible but preventing this from happening again. they say answers here could vent other shootings nationwide potentially. >> what specifically is missing for them? >> reporter: a response from the ag is what they are saying today. they want to speak directly to the ag herself to get answers about when and how the investigation can be launched and why it hasn't happened. >> in terms of the answer they are looking for, what do they want to know? >> reporter: we were speaking earlier about how we know so

much about shootings like columbine and uvalde, which was only a few years ago. step-by-step we've had a look at what happened and these families feel like they don't have that and they really want to know the school district, the school board, the school itself, where things have fallen through the cracks. it seems like they don't have the answers they so desperately need. >> glenn, if there was a formal investigation with subpoena power, the people who had them were reluctant to speak before. they would be forced, i guessed, or compelled to at least show up and they could get some answers. what is the usefulness of having the kind of investigation they are looking for? >> reporter: well, chris, without subpoena power we see the report issued from guidepost solutions hired by the oxford school board to conduct an investigation and issue a report. a couple of things that came

out, one, it was highly critical of school administrators sing this incident could have been avoided had the school followed its own policies. the other revelation in that report, two-thirds of administrative officials and employees declined to take part, declined to be interviewed and it feels like that's why these families are pushing for an investigation that has subpoena power. they find themselves between a rock and a hard place. the prosecutors who prosecuted the gunman and his parents announced at the end of the prosecutions that there was no other criminal culpability they saw. what does that mean? there are no grand jury subpoenas available to continue an investigation. that seems to be why the parents are going to the state, the attorney general's office. states also have an administrative subpoena that has nothing to do with enforcing the laws of the state

but michigan does have administrative subpoenas and it will come down to the question of whether michigan state policies and procedures allow for administrative subpoenas to be partial in light of the school shooting. >> our heartbreak for these families. steven romo, glenn kirschner, thank you both. still to come on "chris jansing reports," record- breaking travel expected this thanksgiving all in the middle of the flu season. we will tell you about the new test happening for not one but two bugs you don't want to bring to dinner. but first, here is the taj mahal today. the stark white manchin is completely blanketed like everything else in the region by the heaviest air pollution it has seen all season. air quality in new delhi right now, 50 times worse than the world health organization's recommended safe limit. that risk is not stopping people from doing their normal routines. jogging in this case.

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keeping you out of the hospital. these symptoms can mean one or the other, or frankly whole list of other things as well. >> it is not the same as a straight covid test. if someone gives you a call and says dr. gupta, i took this test that says i have the flu, what should i be doing? >> exactly. this streamlines treatment earlier. tamiflu ideally within the first 48 hours of one of these tests being positive, chris, that is when we want to get it in your body. they say paxlovid in the first five days. this is really important because if you get a positive test a clinician can use that as proof to say okay, let's get you treatment. they might want to triage your symptoms but this will enable better care, rapid treatment after hopefully a quicker diagnosis. >> i had covid and the flu and

i didn't want to get out of bed to see a doctor, so there is that. the new york times spotlighted a study to spotlight cases using a.i. chatbots only appeared to help doctors a bit but to the researchers' surprise, chatgpt alone outperformed the doctors. back to the long waits in the e.r. and urgent cares, could this be helpful first step to treating folks faster? >> absolutely. any doctor that does not embrace artificial intelligence within guardrails will be replaced by the doctor that uses artificial intelligence for better patient care. chris, we are seeing 100,000 misdiagnoses every year unintentionally despite our best efforts and there are swamped e.r. and community hospitals across the country. this will allow us to avoid misdiagnosis. this is one in a series of studies that have shown artificial intelligence can enhance clinical physician support tools at the point of

care to allow us to care for patients better so we should embrace this technology, not fearful of it. >> we only have 30 seconds left. do you just plug in your symptoms and see what comes up? >> it's almost like a smarter version of google, but essentially for doctors and other medical providers. type in the patient symptoms, past medical history, the more information, the better the output will be for diagnosis. their labs, chris, their history of present illness, we put that into the platform and the artificial intelligence platform will spit out what most likely will be happening to that patient from most likely to least likely and that is helpful. that can really be helpful for medical education and overstressed systems across the country. >> dr. vin gupta, to see you.

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