for former president trump's return to the white house, think about this quote. it's from one the most influential critical theorists of the 20th century. "if everybody always lies to you, the consequence is not that you believe the lies, but rather that nobody believes anything any longer. and the people that no longer can believe anything cannot make up its mind. it is deprived not only of its capacity to act but also of its capacity to think and to judge. and with such a people, you can then do what you please." here on the 11th hour, we will continue to call out lies and hold people in power accountable because we know the truth matters but only if you hear it. let's take a collective breath. we got this.

and on that note i do wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the network of nbc news thank you for staying up late. i will see you again tomorrow. so once upon a time, there was a senator. this senator was from a rich and very well-connected family and a real smooth talker. he was handsome-ish kind of and depends on your taste but ambitious even for a senator and i should mention he wasn't all that successful as a senator in political terms but for example he had this leadership job in the 2008 election where he was responsible for all the republican senate campaigns that year. that election year under his leadership republicans lost eight seats in the senate which is a lot. so it may not be the best record but he had been leadership. he thought very

highly of his own prospects in politics right after presiding over that huge loss in the senate for his party and he went right to iowa and gave speeches in iowa because he very clearly was planning on a presidential run of his own. so this guy is from money and has a good head of hair and was young-ish for a senator and very competent, very ambitious. and he was also stripping -- schtooping one of his employees and that caused consequences for him and career. this senator is sleeping with a woman who works with him in the senate and he is married and publicly a very pious man all about family values and called on other people to resign when they had affairs but he is having an affair. he is married

while having this relationship with a woman who works for him and the woman he is having a relationship with is also married. and because this senator was a lot of things but super strategic was it may be not one of them, this employee, the female employee he decided to have an affair with, this woman's husband was also working for john ensign at the time. so he is sleeping with this woman who works for him and also sleeping with the wife of somebody else who works with them. same woman. so when john ensign and his employee got caught having the affair, the genius republican senator john ensign decided his reaction would be not only to fire the woman he was sleeping with but also to fire her

husband as well. he fired them both from their jobs in his office and just in case that wasn't smart enough, he took some additional steps is a sitting senator who can't remember has presidential ambitions. that is why i spent several years talking about this a lot particularly in 2009. and in the wake of this affair being exposed, john ensign arranged for his parents to make multiple payments to the couple, payments that total up to $100,000 and then put the teenage son of the couple on the payroll of the republican senate campaign committee. he then lined up any legal lobbying job for the husband and set him up in a lobbying job in which he himself, the senator, would be lobbied by this guy whose wife he is sleeping with who we got the legal lobbying job before. i did spend a lot of time covering that scandal when it first happened in 2009 in large part because it got worse and weirder and worse the more we learned. it was just never ending. my favorite part of all of it was that this was an

increasingly open secret among republican members of congress at the time. a whole bunch of them knew about it while they all kept it secret. an oklahoma republican senator named tom coburn was reportedly involved in negotiating payments between senator and send -- senator john ensign and the woman he was sleeping with that he was trying to save some money as he made some payoffs and when the senator was confronted about his alleged role in negotiating payment amounts and keeping the scandal secret, senator coburn gave an indignant response, "that is privileged communication that i will never rebuild anybody, not to the ethics committee, not to a court of law, not to anybody." privileged? why was this privileged? senator coburn reportedly helping this other senator in his financial negotiations with his mistress. why would that be privileged? and therefore secret?

senator tom coburn explained it was because, "i was counseling him as he position. and that kind of privilege. doctor-patient confidentiality. senator tom coburn was in fact a doctor. he was an obstetrician. so he was going to keep his role in senator john ensign's scandalous secret because john ensign was his the patient. he was an obstetrician. nobody ever got to the bottom of whether senator john ensign was pregnant, postpartum or actively giving birth in the time he was involved in this scandal with his obstetrician. but that was the line on how and why they would keep this all a secret. you will be shocked to know that this line of defense didn't hold. >> last year i did have an

affair. i violated the vows of my marriage. it is absolutely the worst thing i have ever done in my life. >> senator john ensign admitted publicly to the affair and then when all the financial and ethical implications came to light about how he had managed and tried to cover up the affair with or without the advice of his obstetrician, senator john ensign ultimately had to resign his seats -- seat in the united states and resigned from the senate without scandal looming over him. in fact, at the time he resigned, the ethics committee was deep into a thorough investigation of what the exact be done. it was april 2011 when he did resign. and then the following month, in may of 2011, the ethics committee released their report on him. they released their ethics report on him even though he

had already resigned and was already gone from congress. that report was in good. they said they found a substantial and credible evidence that senator ensign conspired to evaluate -- violate lobby laws and he was trying to destroy evidence they were trying to preserve. the bottom line here is what is the take-home lesson? if you ever find yourself in congress, the best plan is to not be involved in any big sect scandal -- sex scandal or corruption scandal but in cases like this all three of those things wrapped up into one big scandal but the best move is to not get involved. but if you do find yourself in congress and find yourself involved in scandal, and you get investigated by the ethics committee, you should know. and in fact all members of congress do know that resigning from congress won't make that investigation go away. there is a known track record in the u.s. congress of

releasing ethics committee reports on scandal ridden politicians even after those politicians resigned from congress to try to escape the scrutiny. and in the case of john ensign, not only did they release the ethics report on the scandal after he resigned but also released the recommendation to the u.s. justice department that the senator be criminally prosecuted for what he had done. and that is one thing when it is a senator schtooping one of his staffers and get into a weird game to cover it up and make it right and that is bad. that is bad. but it is not like this bad. >> she arrived at the party and she had sex with representative matt gaetz within minutes of her arrival. later on, when she was walking out to the pool area she observed to her right representative matt gaetz having sects with her friend, 17 at the time.

>> and in this question she is sure? >> she is absolutely sure she saw her friend and representative matt gaetz having sex on what she described as a game table. >> if this report were made public, what do you think it would reveal? >> my clients want to know if this happened and it is real they want the public to know they are not lying and they have never spoken to anyone to be without the force of a legal subpoena in the testimonies of her and the other 11 individuals that testified would show that this actually did happen in the american people would know and decide if that is the person they want to be the next attorney general of the united states. >> he also told us there are a lot of text messages in the possession of the house ethics committee between matt gaetz and his two clients and others in the ethics committee is in possession of venmo and paypal receipts showing it was paid for

sex at these parties. >> so a lawyer for witnesses who have testify to the ethics committee speaking tonight with cbs news and congressman matt gates has denied any wrongdoing of any kind in the president- elect donald trump announced that he wants matt gaetz to be his nominee for the next attorney general of the united states. and when this was first announced, it was a choice so laugh out loud ridiculous that every -- even serious people with no sense of humor soberly speculated that it couldn't have been real and that trump must not really want matt gaetz to be the attorney general and he must have just named him as his choice so when he inevitably withdraws from consideration the person trump names next will sound better by comparison. and a lot of very sober people are inventing that sort of roundabout explanation for this

announced appointment. and that doesn't at all seem to be what is going on and trump really does appear to want matt gaetz to be attorney general of the united states and axios is reporting that trump is personally calling republican senators and telling them one- on-one that he does expect their vote for matt gaetz to be attorney general of the united states. now, there is an ethics committee report on allegations that matt gaetz, as a member of congress, paid for sex with underage girls. and an alleged activity you may have heard described as child sects trafficking. house speaker mike johnson, a very publicly pious man, insists that the ethics committee can't release such report because matt gaetz has resigned his seat in the longer a member of congress. however, resigning your seat doesn't stop the ethics committee from being able to release its report on alleged misbehavior or even criminal misbehavior even while a person was a member of congress and just ask the world's most -- least likely of stature

patient. and now the disgraced former senator john ensign who was never criminally charged but has left politics and gone back to being a veterinarian in nevada. two lawyers for witnesses who give testimony for the matt gaetz ethics committee investigation have come forward publicly to tell the public the nature of the testimony that their clients and gave and that investigation. in other words, the kind of material the ethics committee reviewed and making its matt gaetz report. we do have news tonight that all 10 members, five republican and five democratic members of the ethics committee now have that report themselves. but again the very pious republican house speaker said don't release that information because it can never come out. i will just mentioned that that just creates the possibility and think about this. this creates the possibility that they will figure out a way to keep this ethics report on matt gaetz from being released and figure out a way to get him confirmed as attorney general,

whereupon he will become the head of the u.s. justice department while at least 10 members of congress have this report on him. and what is vetting? why did they do that? the whole reason nominees for high office get checked out or vetted and it is supposed to have a deep dive background check or anybody applying for security clearance or anybody appointed to high office is to make sure there isn't going to be any leverage against them or any hidden dynamics at play while they have a sensitive position on behalf of the united states of america. so you want to know if this person is a foreign agent or were they in the past? are they linked to organized crime? did have a criminal background of any kind or links to criminal associates or is this person on somebody's payroll or in debt to anyone or addicted to drugs or alcohol or gambling

or anything that makes him potentially vulnerable to blackmail or import -- extortion or anything that they really wouldn't want to get out and they may do anything to keep it from being made public? how about if a guy got his job only because the contents of an official government report to his a lead child sects trafficking -- sex trafficking was suppressed and desperately not wanting to let the public know well many other people in the process at least 10 words of congress have that report that he is desperate to keep hidden. and is that a good situation for the attorney general of the united states to be in? this election, it does turn out was close and closer than the rhetoric and the noise around it would make you think. donald trump only improved on his electoral vote showing by 2016 by six votes than he got

in his razor thin when megan 2016 and he went from 306 312 and in 2016 at least in all the states he won the republican senate candidate won as well and in the selection that didn't happen and there were four states where trump won but the republican senate candidate lost so his coattails were pretty short and thin and republicans in the house will still have only a teeny tiny majority in one of the smallest majorities in history but the popular vote still to this day continues to get tallied up and it looks like trump will end up being below 50% of the popular vote, which means most of the people who came out and voted in the selection voted for somebody else, not trump. so he did win, yes, but it is a narrow win. the new york times said "trump secured his victory by a cumulative 237,000 votes and three states that, had they gone the other way, would have meant victory for harris. so it was a narrow win for trump

but it was a win. and in addition to holding onto their tiny majority in the house next year, republicans will also take control of the senate next year. that is next year. that means for democrats, right now, right this very minute, this is an important time when they should be making the most of every second they continue to control the senate. in the weird circumstances we are in right now that could mean telling the fbi to hand over their file on the federal criminal investigation into matt gates. handed over to the senate and it could mean trying to subpoena the ethics committee report from the house if they refuse to release it. it could mean the senate gets testimony themselves from the witnesses who testified about matt gaetz to the house ethics committee. none of these things are normal to happen in a transition but i say this.

under normal circumstances, all of these things i just described, those would happen while confirmation hearings were underway for trump's appointees. or there are things that you can be assured would happen when the fbi did background checks on people for the confirmation process. or for security clearances. and with this new administration coming in they don't want to do background checks and they are not doing those for their potential nominees. and of course they don't want confirmation hearings either. and the president-elect donald trump is demanding the senate should go into recess so he can install anyone he wants in any job with no vetting or confirmation process, no hearings or vote. the democrats are in an interesting position with that demand by trump on the table. this demands there be recess appointments only and no confirmations. with that demand on the table, there is no reason for democrats in the senate to wait. it is possible no confirmation hearings are ever coming for

any of these nominees. so if there is something the american people should know about any of these people who trump said will be has nominees running the government, now may be the only chance to do it while the senate democrats still have the gavel and can still use the power including subpoena power to do what may be the only vetting any of these nominees will ever get. senator blumenthal today said that for the senate armed services committee that may include holding a hearing to get testimony from witnesses who say they have information about the rape allegation against donald trump's choice for defense secretary . he denies he assaulted anybody but he now admits paying a woman to stay silent about her rape allegation against him. we should note that california authorities never brought charges against him when they

investigated that matter but we will be speaking with a member of the senate armed services committee about that possibility about that nomination here live in just a moment. and i think it is worth being very clear eyed and realistic about what is going on. and also what options people have right now. obviously, i think it is good or clear to the democrats that they should spend this time while in control of the senate confirming as many federal judges as possible and they are working on that and confirmed another federal appeals court judge tonight. there are literally dozens of biden judicial nominees still pending and no reason the democrats in the senate can't work around the clock and through every second of the time left to confirm every one of those pending biden judicial nominations. that seems like a very obvious point in a good way to spend time. but what may be the less obvious point though is the whole u.s. capitol in both houses of congress, they are

really in a fight for their existence at this moment and whether they know it or not, whichever party they are in or whatever lovely relationship they think they have any personal level with donald trump, the project is somebody who is authoritarian minded when they get into power is to consolidate all power in themselves which means taking it away from everyone else. and there has been a lot of talk about how trump is doing that within the executive branch, taking away the independence of any agency or department or anything we think of as the federal government including law enforcement. that has been discussed a lot and trump consolidating power within the executive branch. there has been less talk about how he has tried to consolidate all the other power of the government as well, mainly and especially, the power that congress has. under the constitution, the senate has the right and responsibility to confirm nominees to important jobs in the government. and it isn't just the cabinet with more than 1000 positions that are supposed to be senate confirmed.

trump has publicly told the senate that for his next term he demands they stop doing that and told them explicitly that they must recess and shut themselves down because he wants them to have no say in who he puts to office no matter what the constitution says. that is why the democrats who are controlling the senate right now, they may have the only opportunity there will be and they may have the only chance the public will have to hold hearings on and investigate and that and tell the public what the public needs to know about them. it is weird to try to do this in the transition before the nominations are formally made by the newly sworn in president, but that will be too late. trump is the one who made it weird by making this demand that the senate not confirm any of his appointees and the democrats should take him at his word and do the hearings now. but it isn't just the senate. the washington post was first to report that these guys are also planning to try to bosch

the other major role that congress hasn't governing the united states, which is the power of the purse, the money, appropriating the funds that the government spends. the washington post reports that part of a plan for trump's radical austerity program that he has outsourced to elon musk, part of that plan is they won't have elon musk and his commission or whatever it is, they won't have them make a proposal to congress as to what elon musk thinks ought to be cut out of the government. they are planning on cutting it all directly, having elon musk tell trump what to do and having trump's make the cuts himself, leaving congress out of it, getting rid of, in other words, the power of the purse. it is just decided between elon

musk and donald trump. this isn't small stuff. this is putting the accused child sex trafficking guy who said he wants to abolish the fbi and maybe the whole justice department in charge of the justice department without vetting or confirmation hearing or background check or vote. this is, according to the guy heading up the austerity program with elon musk a plan to delete the government. and this is the exact same language used by the influential radical blogger whom jd vance sites is a major influence on his thinking and this guy is the one who started this thing on the far right but the government needs to be deleted and says the government needs to be deleted and we need to replace it with something new, something for which he says we will "need to get over our dictator phobia." we need to delete the government and get over our dictator phobia. they are not trying to abolish the fundamental functions of congress or getting rid of article 1 neck of the constitution to do small stuff. they are trying to get rid of article 1 mack of the

constitution and trying to marginalize and disempower the whole congress. and this is in order to do the most radical things imaginable. do you know what? nobody loves congress. but you will love it a lot compared to the alternative when it is gone. because i for one have plenty of dictator phobia. i think it is a healthy phobia to have and i have no plans to get over it my whole life. nobody knows if the republicans in congress will fight to keep our structure of government or whether they would roll over and let trump say for a start get rid of the senate's role on voting for nominations or whether they will roll over and let trump take over the power of the purse and start directly controlling all spending. but that is what trump is trying to do. right now for the next few weeks before he is in power, it is in the democrats power in their hands in the senate to show the congress can do or show what it is for and do the

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the senate armed services committee has over say that department in the trump transition team has received detailed information about an allegation that trump's announced choice for the defense secretary, pete hegseth, raped a woman in 2017 at a conference in monterey, california. the woman reportedly went to a hospital and received a rape examination afterward and they

investigated it 2017 and didn't file charges against him at the time. he has denied the allegations and the memo detailing the incident given to the trump transition team reportedly came from a woman who said she was a friend of the accuser. the accuser herself entered into a legal settlement with pete hegseth that paid her an undisclosed amount of money in exchange for her staying quiet about her allegation. pete hegseth admits he paid her to stay quiet, but again he disputes or claims about the alleged rape. so if you are a member of the senate armed services committee in charge of over seeing the pentagon, one of the things you could do and no need to wait is demand detailed answers about that allegation and about what appears to be a hush money payment to a woman who made the allegation. and there is no shortage of things to be aired out about various trump nominees for various important post. it is not just pete hegseth but bobby kennedy junior for health secretary who among other things has said that covid was bioengineered so jewish people couldn't get it and maintains it is possible that hiv

doesn't cause aids and says that wi-fi causes something called leaky brain and he will be in charge of healthcare for the united states of america and kristi known for homeland security secretary. she shot her puppy cricket to death who right this minute is banned from all tribal lands in her own state and appears to have paid for dental work by doing infomercials for the relevant dentist while she was still the sitting governor of a state and appears to have made up a fantasy meeting with kim jong-un that never happened. i could go on. but even backed -- back to the armed services committee. you want somebody overseeing the defense intelligence agencies and all the others who is more famous than she is for anything else for promoting verbatim russian propaganda? and here is senator elizabeth

worn, members of the armed services committee on that tulsi gabbard intelligence nomination just this last week. >> do you really want her to have all of the secrets of the united states and our defense intelligence agencies when she has so clearly been in putin's pocket? that has to be a hard no. >> that just have to be a hard no. joining us now is the massachusetts democratic senator elizabeth worn on the senate armed services committee and the banking committee as well. it is a pleasure to have you here and thank you so much for making time. >> it is good to be with you always. thank you. >> i feel like senate across have the weight of the world on your shoulders right now because right now you have the gavel and the power in the senate. you can give the democratic party's first response with the power of the senate to what this president-elect is saying he wants for this next term. i do want to know if you seeing

-- see it that way at this moment, or is there something i am missing? >> you have the moment right. but can we make sure we don't skip over a moment that comes before that moment? that is the moment we have right now. i am here in what is called a hideaway, a little office underneath the united states capitol right now because senate democrats are holding the floor trying to push through our judicial nominations. remember, we still have 28 people who have been nominated to be federal judges who are somewhere in this process. that can be 28 lifetime appointments that we get through. look. i know everybody will remind me that the united states supreme court has become an extremist court that doesn't abide by the rule of law and that is true. remember, the overwhelming number of decisions that get made by the courts get made at the district court level.

and we can be filling more of those in. and of those that take an appeal, most of those get resolved at the circuit court level and we just did one more of those today. so right now, we are in a battle with republicans. they are upstairs trying every dilatory tactic to try to delay and hope we all get tired and go home. at this moment, the republicans -- the democrats are actually showing some medal -- metal and saying if you raise these objections we will stay here and we will vote on them and vote on them until we get our judges through. the reason we do want to focus on that is this is our moment to do that. that window is closing and we absolutely have to get one of

those judges -- every one of those judges confirmed and that is why we are here today which is why i am on a 12 minute clock before i can stay here and go back upstairs and devote. >> do you think that they are capable of getting to that pipeline of 28 nominees? when you say democrats are holding together and pushing through, do you feel like you are on track to get through the entire list possible? >> if we don't, it is on nobody but us because right now we do have the power. look. we have to rely on each other. that has always been the challenge with this particular congress and we have to have everybody here and nobody gets to say but i had other plans or this other thing came up. we all have to be here. we all have to be willing to get behind these judges and vote them through. if we do, we can beat back

everyone of the republican objections and delaying tactics. what i wanted to hear right now on this monday night right now and november, we are willing to stay until we get our judges confirmed. advice and consent, this is our job to confirm these judges and that is what we are going to do. >> senator, i won't keep you long but i know you have to go but let me ask you if you think there is room on that calendar or with everything you just said about what you need to do with judges, is there room to do some oversight over the trump announced nominees? obviously, you can't formally nominate anybody until he is president-elect and democrats don't have the gavel in a possibility of no confirmation hearings at all if he gets this recess appointment scheme through the congress. >> i think you are doing exactly the right thing, and that is pointing out who these people are and how much we need to be collecting the evidence

about them and getting it out to the public. you can't have a formal hearing about a nominee who isn't a nominee yet. but there are certainly things we can start doing as a matter of oversight. i think that is exactly what we should be doing. part of it is right now pushing on who these people are. i do want to underline a point here for everybody who listens on this. there is value in raising these objections and raising them publicly. because even if the republicans are going to have the votes or even if donald trump says no voting, what is most important of all is for the american people to understand who these people are that he has picked to be on his team, to carry out the policies of his

administration. that it is important to note that he picked somebody for intelligence who is in the pocket of vladimir putin and we say really we want her to have the secrets? i don't think so. that he is picking somebody to be our chief law enforcement person and the attorney general of the united states, who has been under investigation for bringing an underage female across the state lines for purposes of sexual activities and who has been investigated for drugs, and other possible criminal violations. on and on through the system and we aren't just talking about people who have different philosophies or different approaches to government. we are not talking about people who instead of being well- qualified are thinly qualified. we are talking about people who are aggressively affirmatively disqualified. we need for everybody in the

united states regardless of who they voted for, democrat or republican or voted for one of the third parties, we need for all of them to know the details about these people. ultimately, the only check on trump as he goes out there is either going to be that the republicans in congress are going to be willing to stand up and push back or the american people are going to be willing to stand up and push back. >> massachusetts democratic senator, elizabeth warren, hard at work late at night as judicial nominations are coursing to the senate. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. see you later. >> more ahead here tonight. stay with us. tched sound)

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so donald trump has been adamant that his plan to put millions of people in camps and start deporting whole families and ratings workplaces will all start on day one at noon as he is being sworn in on inauguration day. if they are really trying to make that happen you have to start preparing well in advance of inauguration what that means so does the work to stop him from doing that. today and federal court the aclu filed their first lawsuit seeking more information about his plans to deport millions of people once he takes office and as far as the aclu is concerned, now is the time to

sue and try to expose those plans in order to try to stop them from being carried out. go time in other words and not the moment he becomes president but go time is now. and in california governor newsom has called a special session of that states legislature asking them to appropriate more funding for california's state legal challenges to federal policies in the next trump term in the democratic governors of colorado and illinois they are leading another group called governors safeguarding democracy and essentially it is a network of governors who are agreeing to pool resources and work together to oppose the policies of trump's white house. the groups top staffer is julius spiegel who said when governors of other states come together, they can become "essential force multipliers and firewalls against threats to democracy.

" joining us now is julius spiegel the founder and ceo who oversees this initiative. it is nice to meet you and thank you for being here. >> it is great to meet you. thank you for having me. >> can you help me in our audience understand some of the practical ideas behind how this would work? the idea is governors safeguarding democracy but what is the group doing? >> as you noted governors safeguarding democracy was launched last week but to your earlier point this is been done ongoing for several weeks and what they're doing in coordination with governors across the country is working together to pool resources and the best expertise out there with the best staff to make sure they are prepared for all the possible contingencies, whatever may come but also to make sure that the state institutions of democracy are delivering for the people in the states. that is really the central premise of what governors safeguarding democracy is doing and this is not a novel or new method pioneered by governor newsom in the aftermath when

roe was revoked by the supreme court in governor newsom rallied other governors together and a whole host collectively for two years now to work across state lines to protect reproductive health care including doing novel things like stockpiling reproductive medicine and safeguarding various contours of democracy. >> i wanted to talk to you tonight because even before this initiative came out you talked about the fact that governors have power when they come together and we think of ourselves as 50 different states or united is one big thing but you talked about this idea that governors in smaller groups can be both a firewall and a force multiplier and can you talk about how a dynamic between a small group of governors may be medium-sized can be more effective than any of them could be on their own? >> governors have these extraordinary powers some of which are very public like the

bully pulpit but they have these other tools like the budgets and assigning legislation, executive authority, agencies they oversee and run and that in and of itself is more powerful and impactful when the authorities are paired with each other across state lines and lessons learned, practices adopted from one state to another and coordinated strategies that can be undertaken to make the whole greater than just the sum of its parts. that is the premise of this work and that the governors are leading now in the democracy context but across a range of offices and are eager to work with anyone who is engaged in the work of safeguarding democracy. i do want to note that this is critical the matter who sits in the white house and about nurturing, supporting and protecting institutions of democracy but either way that was undergoing years ago and it should be also years from now. >> julius spiegel, founder and ceo of this and we will be watching this closely and i would love to talk with you

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