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chris jansing reports. not walking away. so what's next when it comes to sentencing? next, how president-elect trump's team is responding to the news from court. and the investigations into benjamin netanyahu's aides. the leaks of classified intelligence. and gruesome details emerging from the medical examiner in the laken riley murder trial. the testimony leaving family members in court crying with their hand, their heads in their hands. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments. we begin with the latest news in the donald trump hush money conviction. lisa is following all of this. you had a little more time to digest exactly what is in this

filing. what the options are. so tell me what you are finding. >> the manhattan da alvin bragg have told judge juan merchan they expect donald trump's team to file a motion to dismiss the indictment in the case on the grounds he will be president and that even during the presidential transition, he shouldn't be amenible to any aspect. they will agree to stay any and all other proceedings including the sentencing and are willing to wait until 2029 when donald trump is no longer president to see their verdict come to an end. >> lisa, thank you for that. let's go to nbc's vaughn hillyard reporting from west palm beach, florida and vaughn, team trump sees this as a big win. what are they saying?

>> we expect his defense team to file their motion to dismiss shortly. but i want you to look at the statement from team trump here so far in which they write in response to the prosecution's urging to judge merchan today. quote, this is a total and definitive victory for president trump and the american people who elected him in a landslide. the manhattan da has concluded this witch hunt cannot continue. that is not a wholly true statement in this case. it has not been dismissed and it is not gone. it is still not determined as lisa noted whether the sentencing could come before inauguration day or after his presidential term were to end in 2029. but for donald trump, this is the next chapter in what has been ultimately in march of 2023 a criminal indictment that not only led him to new york to face the criminal charges but

watched his polling numbers separate himself from the rest of the republican pack of ron desantis and nikki haley. he was found guilty by the jury on the 34 felony accounts and then in a sentencing was scheduled next week before thanksgiving and depending on how the presidential election shaped up, it was going to be a question of whether he could face even prison time come 2025 but it has come to the moment where the district attorney's office has suggested they could potentially see a stay in sentencing may be warranted in this situation. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. we are following new developments in what has become a sprawling criminal investigation. it is rocking israel's government. nbc's raf sanchez joins us now from tel aviv. what can you tell us, raf? >> reporter: well chris, we are learning that two aides are

both under criminal investigation. both for allegations that they misused their government positions to try to help netanyahu politically. the first case and the more serious of the two involves a communications aide to netanyahu who has been arrested along with four members of the israeli military on suspicion of leaking classified intelligence to a german newspaper with the goal of blunting criticism of netanyahu's handling of the hostage crisis. this 32-year-old aide is alleged to have sent this german paper a document said to be written by the leader of hamas. and it said the large scale protests we have been seeing were weakening israel. strengthening hamas. the israeli military said this document was not written by the leader of hamas, but a mid

level hamas operative and they suspect it was leaked to benefit netanyahu. they are saying this was a politically motivated investigation. his most senior aide questioned for several hours last week by israeli police. he is said to have altered phone records from the morning of october 7th. the hamas attack that changed the country forever. he is alleged to have changed those records with a view to making it look like netanyahu sprung into action earlier in the morning than he actually did. now we caught up with his attorney earlier today. he is saying this is all a misunderstanding. related to the chaos of that morning. when israel was under attack. the chief of staff has not been arrested. has not been charged. we should say, chris, at this point, there is no allegation

that netanyahu personally is accused of wrong doing. but he does remain on trial for those criminal corruption charges that were brought against him back in 2019. and right now, unless something changes he is likely to have to testify in the jerusalem court at the beginning of next month. >> raf sanchez, thank you for that. right now, we are hearing detailed testimony from a crime lab scientist at the laken riley murder trial. priya, what's the latest from court today? >> reporter: that's right chris. it has been an incredibly difficult day for laken riley's family members. about 30 or so of her family members have been coming into the court behind me here ever since this murder trial started. but today, today they saw surveillance video of laken riley on her job before she was murdered and surveillance cameras from other vantage

points that prosecutors say clearly show jose ibara loitering in the area where her body was eventually discovered. we also heard from another gbi investigator talking about the text messages that were sent. you hear her or see her text. her mother tries to call her repeatedly and sends a bunch of text messages saying i'm worried sick about you, that were obviously never answered. we also heard from the medical examiner as you mentioned about the exact cause of her death. let's take a listen to that. >> blunt force head trauma and signs of asphyxia. >> what is asphyxia? >> essentially the inability to deliver oxygen. her cause of death is the combined effects of blunt force head trauma and asphyxia. >> what is her manner of death?

>> homicide. >> reporter: and the medical examiner went onto say blunt force trauma was likely caused from a rock being bashed into her head and asphyxia was consistent with the wounds you would see when someone has been strangled. as you can imagine to see their daughter in the last moments before she died and to hear the graphic details about exactly how she died was simply too much for those family members. many of them having to walk out of the room. several of her friends are also in the courtroom siting in the front row with their arms linked together in a move of solidarity and comfort. we are expecting the state to wrap up their side of the case today. and we will move onto the defense's side. they are saying all of this evidence is circumstantial and they are trying to point a finger at jose ibara's brother diego so we are likely to get

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hush money case on donald trump postpone sentencing but not dismiss the case altogether. the prosecution writing quote the people deeply respect the office of the president. are mindful of the demands and obligations of the presidency. and acknowledge that defendants inauguration will raise unprecedented legal questions and we deeply respect the fundamental role of the jury in our constitutional system. and it is not the only case with an open question about its future. in georgia, a surprise update from the appeals court canceled what was meant to be a hearing on trump's bid to disqualify fani willis from being involved in his election interference case. joining us, katherine christian. also with us, msnbc political analyst brendan buck and new york magazine freelance writer andrew rice who very extensively covered the new york trial. thanks to all of you for being here. can i ask you your big picture

question, katherine first. then i will get into the details of what we saw today. that is, is this an unprecedented test for our criminal justice system? how it operates? whether or not as we have heard from judge juan merchan it operates apart from politics and apart from how much money you have? >> yes it is. and it would be accurate to say that now president-elect donald trump was treated differently from other defendants with his four different indictments. but now here we are. he is president-elect trump. because he wasn't sentenced in september, we are now left with this conone drum. it is not surprising that the manhattan da would say they are opposing the motion to dismiss. i am surprised that they basically are consenting to a delay to 2029 which actually under new york law, you are supposed to be sentenced without unreasonable delay except for very specific circumstances like you are in a

treatment program. so yes. >> well, i just want to stop you there, i don't think who wrote that could foresee this kind of eventuality right? >> yes. this is unprecedented. when has a former president, now president-elect been convicted by a jury and now here we are is because he is a president-elect, we are now saying well clearly, he can't be sentenced because he is about to become president. it is something that you know, this is history. >> yeah. and let's talk about the specifics of the filing. and the decision that is now facing judge juan merchan. what will he weigh from a legal standpoint? can he be counted onto put politics aside and make a judgment on the law understanding this is unprecedented? >> katherine? >> oh, i thought you were talking to mr. brock.

sorry. i think judge merchan from what he was shown will probably agree with the manhattan da that this has to be delayed. meaning the sentence. he clearly may not dismiss the indictment. first of all, if judge merchan dismisses the indictment, case is over. no sentencing, move on. the problem with the delay in sentencing when you are a criminal defendant, there is no judgment of conviction until you have been sentenced. what that means is you don't have a criminal record, donald trump does not have a criminal record because he has not been sentenced. if a defendant were to pass away before he has been sentenced, it's like the case never happened. the case goes away. so justice delayed is justice denied in this case. if he is not sentenced, it is just a case that is hanging out there. and he can't appeal it if he is not sentenced. you can't appeal a case until

there is a judgment. so it will be there. four years is a long time. >> we saw a group of new yorkers put their life on hold to be a part of this trial week after week after week. you watched it closely with a reporter's eye. i asked you to put a reporter's eye on this moment. where we are and how we got here. >> i think the da's office actually sort of laid out the conflicting imperatives here. you have the presidential immunity decision which is unprecedented. there is an unprecedented situation. and you have on the other hand the age old principle that a jury conviction if properly come to should stand. judge merchan haa lot to weigh. and one of the things he was

very cognizant of i felt was the imposition on the time and on the privacy frankly of these jurors braving potential threats. giving up weeks of their lives to come to a verdict. and i think we will see potentially see thoughtful weighing of that. >> you were there and you remind us of what they faced and the pressure clearly that they were under. even before today, you put it pretty simply as trump beat the system by turning the election into a referendum on his own freedom. is it a legitimate question? are the american people the new criminal and civil jury? >> well, i mean you can say that there is a greater kind of political logic to it.

right? that he won the election. so there has been a verdict. on the other hand, that is not how the criminal code is written. there is no get out of jail free card written into the system. so we are talking about writing new rules. this judge and probably the supreme court will have to think about whether it creates perverse incentives that your legal liability is expunnedded if you happen to win election to the presidency. >> should a greater political logic apply when we are talking about a greater jury verdict? >> it certainly seems like they are allowing the fact he won dictate the law here. that is sort of remarkable. i don't think they are citing the immunity ruling but because he will be president, he can't

be sentenced. that is very notable. the politics of this seem to be nonexistent. democrats largely ignored this trial when it was going on and only talked about it a little bit after the fact. i don't know if that would have made a difference. but i don't think this election had much of anything to do with donald trump's trials and convictions. that's not what other people were voting on. but you can look at this with the bigger picture and say this is probably why donald trump feels invincible. there is very little accountability for much of anything he does. that speaks to the way he is carrying out his transition. he doesn't feel like anything hems him in. one of the guardrails is public opinion. this didn't have an impact on

how anyone voted. you can now start appointing people like matt gaetz because you don't face accountability for anything. >> what if voters and again, this is arguable right. if they sent a message. and the indictments were not viewed as disqualifies by 50% of the voters, do you think that translates more broadly into where we are as an electorate? or is it only about the unique political being that is donald trump? >> i do think some of it is just donald trump. i don't know how many other people could be convicts of something and just get away with it. he is so numb to everybody and broken our sense of outrage and what should bother people, it is hard for people to pay attention to it. i don't think that transfers to anybody else. but we are here and now with him. he can have the outrageous happen to him and people just simply don't care about that kind of thing.

they are much more interested in how he makes them feel or what he will do for them. i think it is relatively dangerous for our country that we are just so tuned out to things like this that i can't sit here and tell you it has any real meaningful political impact. >> i want to touch on what we saw in georgia. that this hearing on what donald trump wanted to do, disqualify the da willis because of the allegations about her involvement with the special prosecutor in the case. he wanted her off the case. what is the real world impact of that and what does it mean for his codefendants in georgia? >> georgia court of appeals didn't give a reason. they just said we are not going to have this scheduled organize argument on december 5th. now you made a good point l. are still 14 defendants left in the case.

and they can't argue immunity. >> thank you. coming up on chris jansing reports, the new lawsuit challenging trump's mass deportation agenda. even before he is in august. and what fema told an employee about what the agency fired accused of bringing politics to a disaster relief zone. we have that next on msnbc. ms woah, limu! we're in a parade. everyone customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. customize and sa— (balloon doug pops & deflates)

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wild fire danger is spiking. roads in boston are closed. the brush fire sparked at a reservation in milton, ballooned so much that people driving on i-95 could see and smell the smoke. >> this is actually pretty scary. to have this size fire here in more of a metropolitan area. >> experts tell nbc news they are concerned to see fires so close to thanksgiving day which historically brings the most

home cooking fires every year. on average, home fires surge 240% on thanksgiving. word to the wise. well, the aclu just threw down the gauntlet in their fight against president-elect trump's mass deportation plan. lawyers are demanding details on how the new administration would pull off the controversial and largest deportation in u.s. history. trump's promise is already sparking fear in the immigrant community. one undocumented mother in texas spoke to a local news outlet but was worried about showing her face. span [ speaking spanish ] >> so much fear she says migrants are considering fleeing the u.s. before

deportations begin. joining me now, immigration attorney, thanks so much for being here. so what exactly is the aclu asking for and why do you think it is important? >> so it is very important to understand the way the system is working now. so it is under the secrecy. they want to know exactly what is going on, what's the cost to american people. are they meeting the due process rights of the individuals. and also what's the process? the american people should know exactly how they are removing people. >> so you are involved with advocacy for migrants in dc, tennessee, georgia. you are also part of the well established haitian immigrant community on the east coast. i know you have done a lot of work the haitian immigrant community. >> the message i want to send to individuals in the immigrant world is that our values are based in law.

not intimidation. a lot of what the trump administration doing now is a lot of intimidation and doing fear that is not based in facts. the concept a new president will come in and do something differently that has been done in the past and avoid due process already established in the supreme court in a 2020 case, undocumented immigrants is problematic. >> do you think a lot of this fear is coming out of the lack of knowledge, the lack of clarity? how much of it is about confusion and if they knew more about exactly how the process was going to work, and if lawyers could counsel them on how the process was going to work, people wouldn't be so scared. >> a lot of people don't have a lawyer. many of them are children without lawyers. the process of educationing individuals is important. if you have an individual who

seems to be around the law, there is a grounded fear. we will use the military such outlandish things that are not even based in our law. there is an 1876 act that basically says that the concept of useing the military on u.s. soil needs constitutional approval. so the concept a president can say he will do it without consulting congress first should not be a conversation we are having out loud. individuals in the country undocumented should be concerned. and they might not have a right to be here, but the concept that we will start removing thousands, hundreds, millions of people from the united states in a 30 day period should alarm everyone. >> so what are you going to be watching for the next 60, 61 days before donald trump takes office? >> i'll be watching for what tom does. i don't love all his policies

but if he is the czar, he will make sure things run the system. to avoid the constitution, and remove due process which we saw shortly after 9:11. the undocumented individuals here, they are not a national security like 9/11. >> such an important conversation. thank sos much for coming on the program. at this hour, the head of fema is on capitol hill appears before the house oversight committee. the second of two appearances she is making on the hill today. she is there to defend her agency's hurricane response and respond to allegations that relief workers were told to avoid the homes of trump supporters. republicans with tough questions for her after a florida fema worker said she was directed to avoid homes

with trump signs. chriswell did fire that employee, but republicans want to know more. >> there is nothing in our policies and in our procedures, in our training that would direct any employee to bypass anybody's home based on their political party. the actions this employee took are unacceptable. >> i know that. and you know that. we agree on that. >> and i welcome an investigation by the ig. >> but you have not requested. will you request one? >> i will request one. >> let's bring in nbc's allie. what we have heard in the infrastructure subcommittee is obvious. but the real fireworks are expected to come once questions begin in the oversight committee. so what are we expecting? >> that's not to say the hearings we have already seen today weren't fiery and weren't tense. though you are right to say that typically when things go before the oversight committee, and have anything along

partisan lines, they do tend to get fire working. even this morning just listen to some of the exchanges she had with republican members specifically as they questioned her around these reports of staff on the ground in disaster areas like florida being told to ignore funding and help for houses with trump signs in front of them. watch. >> do you understand why americans lack confidence in fema leadership? you understand that. >> trust is the most important thing we could have in government. >> again, you would say yes? can i put you down as a yes that you do understand why so many people are upset? >> it is unacceptable why this one american made this. and i can understand why they are upset. >> typically in these hearings chris, we look to what the

fiery moments were. but then we also look to the action items. and you played one of them right at the outset of this segment. where the head of fema says that she will request and cooperate with an inspectors general investigation of what could have happened here. that will be in addition to any oversights that congress continues to do. >> thank you. we just witnessed the most severe showing yet of a law critics say china is usings to eliminate all political dissent in hong kong. they sentenced 45 pro democracy activists for ten year ins prison because of their connection to an unofficial primary election in 2020. they were charged in a law beijing imposed after 2019 with protests. that reduced hong kong's autonomy and criminalized anything considered opposition to the chinese government.

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right now, the race is on for who will lead the democratic national committee at a time when the party faces a major inflection point. so far, two candidates have launched bids, former maryland

governor and one time presidential candidate martin o'malley. and minnesota democratic party chair ken martin. nbc's natasha has the latest on the dnc leadership race. also with me, basil michael. to sell us what we know about who is putting their names into this leadership race. >> it is an official race. because we had minnesota party chair ken martin enter the race today. yesterday, martin o'malley, former governor of maryland. and, former presidential candidate. he entered first so it is an official race. but there are many more races circulating. with them, wisconsin party chair ben wickler who is popular with the rank and file.

but ken martin, being the leader of another group. a democratic chairs group. he is getting a lot of traction early on. so we are seeing various names come forward. i should also mention emanuel who was former chief of staff to barack obama, former chicago mayor. his name is also getting floated out there. we have sources telling us he has reached out some to some dnc members. also that his interest is tepid. he is interested but he is exploring other potential, perhaps elected positions once he gets back from being ambassador to japan. so there's a lot of moving parts now. the only woman we have heard come forward or whose name has been floated, she has not come forward herself is lafanza butler, the california senator. so that's where we are are right now. a lot of names coming forward.

this was two weeks after the democrats lost a devastating loss to donald trump and they are really trying to rebuild from the bottom upright now. >> all right, not obviously, just the presidential loss. they lost all of the blue wall states. they did far worse than i think most democrats hoped or expected they would. so give me the outline of the job. i'm not sure a lot of people even know what a dnc chair does. >> i'm going back to howard dean. it is appropriate to look at every state democratic par tiff. it is its own organization. to be able to help the parties recruit candidates for office. particularly in areas where democrats may not be that strong. those are rule and suburban communities. this was a huge deal. when the president or the leaders of the party go arrange

the country, they actually do help. because they give the local parties enough money to build the infrastructure to run candidates. so where the dnc tends to be focused on, presidents and senators, you want them to be able to strengthen the 50 plus state infrastructure to be able to get the bottom of the ticket also represented. >> i remember back when hillary clinton was running for president. and there has been criticism about whether she tried to expand too much. i was in utqiagvik where even democratic party officials were shocked there were a couple of people working for the campaign. the 50 straight state strategy seems like at least on paper okay. great idea. aren't we all altruistic? as a realistic goal, let's take us into the here and now. what is a dnc chairman need to do in a party where a lot of its people are reeling?

>> no doubt. there will be several theories of change going forward for the democratic party. going back to 2017 when you had keith ellison. we want tom perez there, very split and a lot of progressives weren't very happy with the turnout. though keith became a sort of cochair. a deputy chair. so what i think this next chair needs to do is really go to the states and embrace i think the challenges parties have had in the last i would say few cycles. that coalition that i think jesse jackson created that rainbow coalition, 30 plus years old. it is a coalition democrats largely relied upon. they need to figure pout who

are our covoters? they need to go everywhere. >> i want to tell you what sherrod brown who kept it a lot closer, what he told morning joe about what he thinks democrats need to refocus on? take a listen. >> we have to talk directly to workers. we have to restore the tradition and the history of democrats being the party of workers. care for an aging parent. we have to be that party. and focus on the dignity of work. we didn't do that the last 30 years. far too many workers left the democrats. >> there is another part of that argument that people have been voicing which is you don't have to talk directly to workers or anybody else. but you have to listen. that is something the democratic party did not do. in this cycle. is that the job of the dnc

chairman and what do you make of the people running? i know ben wickler was a common guest on this network. >> the dnc needs to do, every state will be a little different. you have to go and replenish that base. there has been orbing at mcdonalds and amazon. they are generally part of the democratic coalition. but, i could also go back to something one of my early mentors said. every movement becomes a resolution. and the grass points becomes the institution over time. and i think that's what a lot of folks are saying. that is what they are saying the democrats have done now. the question is how do we reengage the grass roots?

that actually has to happen. you will see race after race after race lost because the argument is the party is not paying attention to the grass roots. >> maybe you don't want to be a professor anymore. maybe you want to put your name in the race. >> recruit my students, they would love to get involved. >> i have met a few of those students, they are darn good. thanks so much. a former army officer court marshaled and convicted for shooting a handcuffed iraqi civilian has been sentenced again this time for what he did on the capitol january 6th. 6t ♪ we got lobster. pasta. ♪ ♪ crab. bacon. ♪ ♪ shrimp for the takin' ♪ ♪ 500 locations! ♪ ♪ seven new creations ♪ ♪ come taste it! ♪

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a former soldier who beat officers with a baton on january 6th was just sentenced. this defendant got a shorter sentence than prosecutors requested. talk about what we heard in court today. >> sure, it's a little bit of a range that the sentence could have fallen into. so his defense team wanted a below sentence guideline. the judge landed on a sentence within the guidelines. this is really a remarkable case because it involved in another identification from online sedition hunters and the fbi got around to arresting this individual. when they went to his house, they actually found an ar-15 there which he wasn't supposed to have because he had been

court marshaled and held in confinement by the military after a shooting an iraqi civilian who was handcuffed in the head. you can see lots of photos from the sentencing memo. he was acting as security for a rally attending that day. eventually made haze way into the lower west tunnel where some of the most extreme violence of the day took place. that is where officer mike was dragged down the stairs and numerous officers were assaulted. you can see them there with a chair he used against officers. ended up with four years based on what similar people situated in the same as him were getting on their sentences. >> thanks so much for that. the top ten busiest days in tsa's history have all been this year and the agency expects thanksgiving to top that list breaking pre-pandemic records.

the rush will begin one week from today. complicated by a big wild card. and that is winter weather. much of the continental u.s. is facing rain and snow in the days ahead. the tsa says it is staffed up ready for the thanksgiving test. but you might be wondering should i consider signing up for tsa precheck to make life easier? the tsa administrator says it's a no-brainer. >> oh, it is absolutely worth it. if you look at our wait times, we measure wait times every single check point at the top of every hour. a precheck passenger so global entry, next entry and precheck all fit into the category. you will wait ten minutes or lest on a very reliable basis. rarely does it get longer than 10 minutes. usually it's in single digits. standard passengers, our standard is 30 minutes or less. there is a significant time advantage to precheck plus. >> well, as far as when we might see air fares go down for those who might have

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