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rachel maddow and i sat down to talk about what's happening now. what comes next and how to prepare. it's available now exclusively for msnbc premium subscribers. also be sure to stick around because senator elect adam schiff of california will be joining lawrence o'donnell for his first interview since the election to talk about cabinet picks and what comes next. at first, another great reason to stick around. >> yeah. >> i could feel your from across the room. >> yeah, let's talk about the podcast. we are doing cool things at 9:00. we have richard blumenthal, jamie raskin. we have people that are great talking about important issues. >> just turn it off and come back at 10:00. >> do not do that.
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stay right here. it will be awesome. it will be a very good hour of television. you don't want to miss it. thanks, chris. donald trump has now moved on to his second choice for attorney general. today his first choice for the job former congressman matt gaetz officially withdrew following a wave of controversy over allegations he had sex with an underage girl and paid two other young women also for sex, allegations he denies. given this, trump had to give up on his choice of a maga loyalist from florida whose a fixture on fox news and instead will be nominating a maga loyalist from florida whose a fixture on fox news. he's chosen former florida attorney general pam bondi to be his pick for attorney general. you may remember ms. bondi on her many guest appearances on
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the political reality show donald trump has forced us to live in. when bondi was still attorney general in florida she was looking into allegations of fraud regarding his sham university. then his sham charity gave a donation supporting pam bondi. she suddenly decided she was not interested in investigating trump university anymore. years later both his university and charity would be shut down after being investigated by attorneys general to did not receive any large conspicuous donations from donald trump. you may also remember pam bondi for her role as part of his defense team in his first impeachment trial where she deming stated -- demonstrated her skills as a litigator in front of the senate. >> he remains on the board until
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april of 2019. >> nailed it. like any good reality tv star you probably remember pam bondi best from her many appearances on television, specifically fox news television. ms. bondi filled in as a guest host three times while she was still the sitting attorney general of florida. she spent plenty of time on the network since she left office. >> murders from venezuela and prisoners coming straight to our country. they are coming to a town near you. it should scare and terrify everyone in this country. this is one big press conference trying to smear donald trump, trying to hurt donald trump. we do have evidence of cheating
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but we are still on the ground in pennsylvania. i'm here right now and we are not going anywhere until they declare we won pennsylvania. >> the last clip was from just after the 2020 election when she was promoting the big lie that trump had won the election. she was part of the legal team that tried and failed to prove trump selection conspiracies in court filing multiple lawsuits in battleground states. she has been one of his most loyal foot soldiers ever since. she even stood by his side during his manhattan criminal trials and defended him outside the courthouse. >> i'm a former prosecutor. all the rights here go to the defendant. it is his liberty at stake. that has not been happening in this courtroom. this case should have never ever been brought. >> all of that is why donald trump shows pam bondi to be his
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pick for attorney general. she will be every bit the loyalist matt gaetz would have been just with a little more legal experience and a little less baggage or so it seems. joining me is jamie raskin, democrat from maryland and ranking member of the house oversight committee. he was the lead impeachment manager of the second impeachment trial of former president trump. congressman, i'm very eager to first get your reaction to this second choice. of pam bondi to be attorney general. >> i suppose her big virtuous she does not have the baggage that matt gaetz brought in terms of charges of sex with an underage girl, using prostitutes, showing up scene photos on the floor of the house and so on. she is obviously schooled in the exact same legal culture of whatever donald trump wants donald trump gets. so here we are. it has been quite a week as
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they have begun to unveil what the january agenda is going to be. they brought forth a bill to abolish diversity equity and inclusion offices in every federal department and to disqualify the people who had been working at them for reassignment to anywhere else in the government. essentially a massive purge of anybody who had anything to do with gei which will be a scarlet letter for them. today on the floor they were arguing for legislation to give the president of the united states through the secretary of the treasury unilateral executive authority district 501(c)(3) organizations of their tax-exempt status by designating them terrorist supporting groups without ever going to court, without ever meeting any factual or legal proof. it is solely within the unilateral discretion of the secretary of the treasury. afterwards you can go to court
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and you have the burden of showing you are not a terrorist supporting organization which completely capsize is the whole meaning of due process. this is what we are looking at from the lawyers coming out of the trump hemisphere. >> let's talk about pam bondi specifically pick given what those lawyers are doing and what she's done, i wonder, if in your estimation she will be more skilled than matt gaetz who seem to not understand the full scope of the department and had only a passing career as a lawyer. pam bondi was the florida attorney general. she was part of the defense team for the first impeachment. she has been at the center of legal fights in a more high profile and meaningful way. does that concern you? >> she has met the only real test for the job which is, is she willing to do whatever donald trump asks her to do.
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as you showed from the various little episodes that flashed up on the screen, she might not be this centuries answer to f. lee bailey, but she has clearly had some courtroom experience and she has been a litigator in different contexts. that does not improve the merits of what they are saying but i think she at least will not be as much of a catalyzing lightning rod figure as matt gaetz was about to become. >> that's interesting because i wonder -- she is clearly steeped in maga. she's an election just light -- denier but seems to have a better working understanding of the law. the combination seems potentially problematic for people that are interested in the preservation of democracy. the fact that she has been heading up out of the
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litigation wing of stephen miller's america first policy institute suggests to me, i don't know how you think about this, but she will be working in tandem with stephen miller as they try to execute some of the trump administration's most proposed draconian ideas including rounding up migrants and detention camps and the rest. does her affiliation with stephen miller and project 2025 concern you? >> the massive roundup and promised deportation of 10 or 11 or 12 million people looks like the centerpiece of the early agenda of the new trump administration. she would obviously be the chief lawyer in charge of that operation and defending it against everybody suing, presuming that it's done in the way they've done things in the past which is running
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completely roughshod over people's civil rights and civil liberties and what the law does. i think she is lined up to do that, but remember, the attorney general himself or herself rarely appears in court. even in the supreme court that is the solicitor general. she's really presiding over the bureaucracy. that is where she will be the key transmission belt between donald trump's orders and making the bureaucracy move. that is what everybody at the department of justice is so afraid of that there will be a wholesale abandonment of the law and constitution and it will basically become mike the donald trump law firm. >> the enemies list does not seem to have gone anywhere. that was a figure of the mat gaetz agenda. i assume it will be transferred to pam bondi if she's confirmed. i would imagine you and some of
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your counterparts will be on that list. when you see someone like matt gaetz replaced by pam bondi what is your level of concern and fear for your nk even higher like liz cheney and adam kinsinger. at the end of the campaign a lot of them were coming forward. the former chief of staff john kelly, the former chair of the joint chiefs of staff mark millie. those people are on a list of hundreds of people who are in that enemies list. if the whole administration is just about exacting revenge and retaliation they will find different ways to go after even legitimate legislative activities like legislative committees. we think we have been covered by the speech and debate clause
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as well as the first amendment as well as the separation of powers, but that may be tested just like they want to go after immigrants and public schools and they want to go after federal workers they also want to go after anybody who has dared to challenge them on their dubious constitutional assertions. that means we have to be prepared to defend everybody. the watchword for this will be all for one, one for all. we will defend democracy, we will defend civil society and we will defend people who serve the american people in the government. >> congressman jamie raskin it sounds like you have the marching orders ready. thank you for your time. it's good to talk to you. coming up, his shame a thing that still works in washington? we will get into that. the first the pick for defense secretary has written a whole lot about the american left and it should scare people on both sides of the aisle.
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we will talk about that with a member of the senate armed services committee ran after the break. the break. hey, jackie! (♪♪) evan, my guy! you're helping them with savings, right? (♪♪) i wish i had someone like evan when i started. somebody just got their first debit card! ice cream on you? ooo, tacos! i got you. wait hold on, don't you owe me money? what?! your money is a part of your community, so your bank should be too. like, chase! ♪ [music] i could make a custom pin ♪ so your bank should be too. ♪ watch the dog walker get in ♪ ♪ so ziggy won't complain ♪ ♪ ♪ when my in-law comes a-knockin' ♪ ♪ i can open, maybe lock it ♪ ♪ if my home just had a brain ♪
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that matters because gaetz is not the only alleged sexual predator, sexual past, whatever you want to call him with mild political views that trump has picked for one of the highest positions in government. >> as far as the media is concerned d i was completely cleared. >> that was fox news personality, the pick for defense secretary, pete hegseth. the allegations he's denying stem from an incident in 2017 where a woman alleges he sexually assaulted her after a convention in monterey bay, california. in response to a records request by the media the police department released the report about the incident. the report details the allegations that after the conference she went to an after party and the hotel bar, both
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of which hegseth also went to pick at the bar she believes some form of drug may have been slipped into her drink. she said she remembered walking out of the bar and ending up at the hotel pool where she claims to have had an argument with hegseth. she said her next memory is being in his hotel room where she says he took her phone and physically blocked her from leaving his room. she remembers saying no a lot and she remembers a sexual encounter took place. the sexual encounter part of the report is not safe for work for television i am sparing you some details. hegseth denies wrongdoing and frames the incident as consensual, pointing to the fact he was not charged as evidence of his innocence. the police and local district attorney did not give a reason as to why they did not charge him. deciphering what is true here is made all the more complicated by the revelation first reported in the washington post that hegseth
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paid an undisclosed amount to this accuser as part of the nondisclosure agreement. the accuser is likely legally barred from speaking out. it remains to be seen if the allegations will move the needle with republicans in the senate the way the allegations against matt gaetz apparently did. this is how republican senator roger wicker who is said to chair the armed services committee, this is how he spoke about pete hegseth's chances today. >> what are your concerns about the nomination and the answer to some of those concerns? >> i think he's going to be in pretty good shape. >> what about the allegations in the police report? >> we were not specific. since no charges were brought, we have only the press reports. >> should you have gotten into
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the specifics. >> we will be looking to have a fulsome -- >> that does not seem promising. sexual assault allegations are not the only reason pete hegseth could give some republicans '. this week it was reported that the transition team is calling up a list of current and former military officers they would like to court-martial. reuters has reported on another list the team is drying up of all the pentagon officers he wants to fire. to top that off he has been loudly doubling down on his threat to use the u.s. military to roundup, detain and deport millions of immigrants. that would mean using the military on u.s. soil, sending troops into american neighborhoods. in the previous trump administration there was a belief, accurate or not, that some of the people around trump curbed his most extreme impulses. there were adults in the room.
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as much as republicans claim they are all aboard the maga train, many of them probably hope there are still some adults in the room at the end of the day. republican senator rand, -- rand paul came out to publicly oppose using military on u.s. soil for deportations. that appears to be a bridge too far for senator rand paul. it is a low bar but it is a bar. the moment for congress to rein in his worst instincts is right now. pete hegseth, if he is confirmed as secretary of defense appears to be more than willing to go along with everything trump is asking for and will treat anybody who stands in his way as an enemy of the state. in addition to being a fox news personality, he's also a prolific author. he has published three books. american crusade, battled for the american mind and the war
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on warriors. jonathan at the atlantic spent the past few weeks reading those books. american crusade calls for the categorical defeat of the left with the goal of utter annihilation without which america cannot and will not survive. he writes, our american crusade is not about literal sword and the fight is not with guns yet. in the war on warriors he makes clear that he views the american left as actual enemies of the united states. the expectation is we will defend america against all enemies both foreign and domestic. not political opponents but real enemies. hegseth reportedly does not mince words about how the u.s. military should treat those enemies. he makes plain that he considers the very idea of rules of war just more woke nonsense. our enemies should get bullets, not attorneys. here is how he reflected on all
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of the recent books as a whole. the main question i was looking to answer when i started reading was whether he would follow a trump command to shoot peaceful protesters. after having read them i do not think he would even wait for the order. joining me now is senator richard blumenthal said on the judiciary and armed services committees. thank you so much. you have the perspective and expertise we need right now. first i have to ask. we talked about matt gaetz and tulsi gabbard . pete hegseth has a ton of controversy around him. the sexual assault allegation is one piece of it those writings about turning the united states against other american citizens with whom he disagrees seems dramatically dangerous for someone who might be the defense secretary. >> dramatically dangerous is the right way to view it. these concerns are deadly serious. we are talking about pam bondi,
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another one of the loyalists, apologist, sycophants who will do his bidding just like gaetz would have done . in the case of the department of justice where prosecutions can be brought as retribution, at least you have the courts as a buffer and a firewall. in the case of the department of justice if there are orders to troops to shoot in case of a protest or gathering in a church basement or any kind of meeting, there is no restraint of the same kind. what this kind of threat represents something profoundly dangerous to our democracy. that's why i have proposed a measure that would constrain the insurrection act which is the legal basis for the president to order this kind of military intervention on american soil.
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remember, we use the military to defend our nation. we do not use it against our own citizens on american soil. that is the basis of our constitutional principle. the insurrection act, unfortunately it is so broad that he could misinterpret it. >> do you think senate republicans share your trepidation? do you think you will have a partisan support? >> i think my republican colleagues are not -- are very sympathetic to it. it could be misused by an independent or democrat in the same office. but right now we can see the fire on the horizon and we ought to do something about it because i think our republican colleagues ultimately will be judged harshly by history if we fail to do so. i think this concern about the misuse of military also deeply concerns the military.
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>> of course. there's also the issue of hegseth as the secretary of defense, what he could do to the military itself. i want to play some audio from earlier this month. this is pete hegseth on a podcast talking about what he wants to do if he is in charge with of military. >> first of all, you have to fire the chairman, joint chiefs, after bringing a new secretary of defense but any general that was involved in any of the de i woke [bleep] has to go. either you are in for more fighting, that's the only litmus test we care about. you are not training young officers to be baptized in this type of thinking. whatever the standards, whatever the combat standards were in 1995 let's make those the standards. as far as recruiting, hire the guy that did top gun maverick
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and create some real ads that motivate people to want to serve. >> rewind time to 30 years ago when warriors could be real warriors. that raises alarm bells. i don't know how you hear that and whether you think there's a real possibility that somebody like hegseth as defense secretary could turn america's fighting forces into an army of maga warriors. >> even more important than alarm bells for me are alarm bells for the military. we need professional war fighters. we need people like the chairman of the chief of staff who is a professional officer of the air force, a general who knows how to do a military but, who knows how to hire and promote and recruit and retain the best fighters in the world which is what national defense requires and he knows how to keep secrets which unfortunately people like hegseth do not know how to
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deal. i want to mention one other point i think is really important on sexual assault. chairman brown, their predecessors, the military have focused on trying to stop sexual assault in the military. i have been working for the last 15 years. it is still a scourge. to have somebody leading the military who himself is potentially guilty is such a violation of public trust. when he says he was cleared, no. he was not cleared. they stopped the investigation. we don't know why and we need to get to the bottom of why the investigation was stopped before we confirm him. >> do you think you well? >> we will look for those files. we need them. we deserve them before we make judgments. i would challenge roger wicker as he got into that elevator to
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do a full some investigation and tell the american people what we found. they deserve the truth. it should not be classified. it should not be confidential. the american people deserve the truth. >> hopefully we are on our way to doing that. it is good to see you in person. thank you for your perspective. still ahead we will get reaction from inside the justice department to the choice of pam bondi to replace matt gaetz as potential attorney general. but first, has the republican party finally experienced a moment of shame? regret? they might have. we will talk about that coming up next.
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you don't have the votes. that is what president you like donald trump reportedly told matt gaetz in a phone call today and in his hopes of becoming attorney general. on the call trump reportedly said the senators are moving. today nbc news confirmed that at least five senators had a ready made it clear they would vote against gaetz. this marks his first defeat, but what does it mean for his pick for secretary of defense, pete hegseth who is facing
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serious sexual assault allegations that he denies and what it might mean for pam bondi who is now the choice for attorney general. joining me are two good friends of the show, tim miller hose to the boric podcast and the staff writer for the atlantic. thank you for being here. i'm trying to think of how to categorize the behavior of senate republicans. shred of decency comes to mind. none of them really came out and said to the media they would not vote for him but they were clearly saying that behind closed doors and it sounds like it mattered. do you have, i won't say renewed faith, in senate republicans to maybe withstand the pressures of trump, but do you have any more optimism after a day like today? >> may be slightly. all these courageous republicans who go in the background and talk to people like my cleavage to criticize donald trump over the last years finally became useful. you can be courageous talking
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about background reporters and apparently you can be courageous and private. i thought he was going to be through. the fact that he withdrew means i should update my priors a little bit to what might be happening on the hill. i remain deeply skeptical that when the rubber meets the road on one of these other nominations and when the nominees actually put up and have to go to the vote and vote against donald trump, i think it is going to be challenging to get more than two or three votes but they only need four. it's a very narrow majority. i guess i would update my priors to say, maybe there is a glimmer of hope which is nice, but i think this might have been a pretty unique situation that was maybe unique just because of his not so swell personal relationships with his
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colleagues. >> i was thinking that as well. this was made more difficult by the fact that most people including people in his own party don't like him on capitol hill and it does not necessarily pretend anything for pete hegseth who faces a serious sexual love's -- sexual assault alleged scandal and on paper should be equally as disturbing to the same senate republicans, but will he be? i don't know. do you have a thought to whether this is an apples to apples comparison or is it apples to pomegranates? >> to sort of pick up on that, the rubber never hit the road. gaetz not only made it hard for himself and easy for trump to pull away, he also made it pretty easy for the senators because they never really had to speak publicly. they never had to say anything for the record that would be counted and get noticed. they spoke quietly, i guess.
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gaetz was such a unique case. i think the larger thing, you could argue that hegseth is equally problematic. you could even go and say kennedy is problematic. tulsi gabbard is problematic. there is a scenario which is probably very unrealistic given the recent history and sycophantic nature of the -- republican party in which four, six, whatever could actually lock arms and say we want to have some decency here, some shred of check and balance and you are going to put some nominees up that we can actually confirm. we have not seen anything in the ballpark of that happening. i think it does become a little easier to do this going forward once you have one nominee withdraw which is what we had today. >> to that end, there are the dynamics at play among the senate republican conference. there's also the trump of it
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all. i had a hard time believing he would pull a nominee or make the phone call that you don't have the votes. just sticking to members of his own party, making him walk the plank. it is something that he likes to do and would have been expected to do again, but mark caputo reports that dumping gaetz constituted a remarkable about-face for donald trump who had not only been adamant that gaetz would be as attorney general but floated the idea of using a recess appointment to install him. it signaled an awareness that though he won big fighting such battles in his own party was not worth the sacrifice of time. it's hard for me to see the words awareness and donald trump in the same sentence, but what do you make of that. just saying it's not worth the headache. >> i think the best observation you can give in this situation, he's not a long-term strategic thinker to say the least.
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this is a person that lives out the land and goes with his gut. for whatever reason a confluence of events, maybe one conversation he had today, the other thing, matt gaetz sent out a tweet i believe responding to j.d. vance where he said he can fight for the administration from another post, kind of a vague term. maybe they figured something out in the back. i think that remains to be seen. to me the question is, does this type of strategic donald trump stay or is it a one-off thing? i am inclined to think it is a one-off but it is something to monitor the next few months because it could be a question. mitch mcconnell does not like robert f kennedy's anti- vaccination stance. there's a few in the senate that don't like tulsi gabbard. pete hegseth i would go far and
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say is less qualified and there are more serious objections to him. if he is facing rejection on multiple fronts, do we see the lash out, the bullying trump that wants to humiliate people? my suspicion is yes but we will see. >> kelly talk about mitch mcconnell. he's made himself the head of the senate rules committee leapfrogging over other people. he is not a fan of trump. trump insulted with racial slurs against his wife. he could go out like yosemite sam and say, not on my watch. he could link arms with -- how much of an animus do you think it could be in play here and how effective could he be just as a character that knows the ins and out of the senate. >> he can certainly be affected because of the loyalty he has
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just from his time as leader. it is also perhaps a little easier because he's outgoing, not outgoing verbally, outgoing as far as leaving the job of republican leader so he's no longer in leadership took the rules job is interesting, but i do think he will have a level of independence he's never had before. having said that, we've seen mitch mcconnell over and over again, boy short of being anything against donald trump despite personal reservation. >> i just mean in terms of nominating absolutely bonkers people, italics, bold, and underlined. he does not have any record of standing up against some of the most vicious aspects of maga and trump . to that end, if we
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talk about an animating factor or republicans recognizing they are way out there on some of this stuff. the mass deportation camps. there's been a lot of cry from people like tom homan who is the anointed borders are refusing to acknowledge that camps could be set up despite land in texas maybe being set aside to set up. on fox news using the phrase, super detention facility instead of mass concentration camps for potentially undocumented migrants. do you think that reflects a kind of acknowledgment on the part of the party that they could be in real trouble when they tried to execute some of these more nefarious, draconian policy ideas. >> if trump is aware of anything in his image. i do think it is possible that they could be concerned about backlash. i look at the immigration thing. this will be key in the early
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days to just focus and honing from the media side of what they are actually doing and responding to actions. it really could go either way. you have stephen miller, this might be the most efficient and jacobian effort of the whole administration. i could do that. on the other hand you can see the wall redux where they do a couple of deportations and have some press conferences and the wall gets built a couple miles and then trump declares it was the greatest wall ever and the best deportation effort of all time and he's the champion and then they move on. either of those outcomes are possible so i think guessing right now is probably a full syringe. >> guessing is definitely a full syringe. as somebody who tries to plan a
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years without donald trump and see what happened to our country. remember his hauntingly prophetic speech in 2020 where he said, what is fuel? about two dollars a gallon. if biden got an office what would it be? sure enough look what happened. >> look what happened. gas is about three dollars a gallon. that was the new choice for u.s. attorney general pam bondi proving she meets the number one qualification. she's willing to vigorously defend him on tv despite whatever reality the dates. joining me as a national security editor for nbc news. you have your ear to the ground and have been doing some amazing reporting on how the doj has been dealing with the tamil of matt gaetz potentially leading the department. do you have any initial reactions or sense of how the pam bondi pick will go over?
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>> this is from a former official. this person does not know her that well but the point is i think whoever he picks will be loyal and that is the key test for him. i don't expect him to pick someone who will be honorable and loyal to the constitution. they will be loyal to him. >> is there a sense that she will be more skillful? before i ask you that it's not as if pam bondi is without her own scandal. this is somebody who's out there in pennsylvania promoting the big lie. somebody who's entangled in a scandal where trump may have donated to her campaign for attorney general in exchange for her dropping an investigation into his fraudulent trump university. do you think any of that matters? if it doesn't what does that mean for the department of justice? >> what matters most to me legally is pennsylvania. there was press conferences she went to pick she brought lawsuits in 2020 saying donald trump won the state and
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basically back to the big lie. i want to give credit where credit is due. l bar did not do that. he said, joe biden won the 2020 election. a bunch of officials threatened to resign when trump tried to put in jeff clark i was also going to push the big lie. she has more management experience. she's much smoother and i think she has a good chance of being confirmed. she is much smoother than gaetz, but she might follow the same things. like everybody i was looking at clippings. at one point she was decrying jack smith and the prosecuting and she called all of these people horrible people who had weapon iced the justice department. we do not know. i have talked to current officials before this was announced, and they were all hiring lawyers. >> do you think, given the record of what she has done and what she said and where her
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loyalties lie, do you imagine that will have a tangible result on the staffing at the department of justice. is that people are lawyering up. jack smith is leaving. do you think there will be a significant exodus? >> with gaetz we did not hear about a significant exodus. he was a much more in-your-face person. i do not think people are going to leave. you are hearing this in different departments that they will stay, follow roles, they will not violate the law. many of them cannot leave. they do not make a lot of money in washington and they are waiting for pensions and paying off mortgages. there's two scenarios. there could be a special counsel that would be of pointed by trump and by pam bondi if she's confirmed. another thing they are pushing at, there's a belief that there's all these liberals embedded, the career workers that work for republicans and
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democrats. i have not found that they could be trying to force out a lot of those people. they do not think they will be convicted. they are expecting long legal battles or congressional investigations and they are lawyering up >> do you think we should gird ourselves? you mention the special counsel. it is a reality that seems almost destined to come to pass. if there are targets that should worry about legal entanglements, is it joe biden, hunter biden? what sense have you gotten about the target list? >> the most vocal people have been really pushing on jack smith and letitia james here in new york. i think you will see some kind of special counsel going after jack smith. it could go like the investigation to expose criminality by jim comey and
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john brennan at the cia. he did not find that much. he had those trials that he did not win. that's what could happen. lots of investigations but few convictions if any. >> david, please keep coming back. thank you for your time. we will be right back. back. new homes-dot-com that improves home-shopping, creating a better way for people to... (luke) ...people to find the perfect home to build their lives. (marci) are you okay? (luke) no, it's... it's the dust-based allergy. oh, there's another one! (marci) that's why we do it. isn't it... got a lot of dust in your... (luke) it's so dusty. (marci) yeah. (vo) homes-dot-com. we've done your home work.
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