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right now on "ana cabrera reports," trump transition musical chairs. the president-elect names his new pick to lead the justice department. who is pam bondi? and would she bring to the role of attorney general? plus, matt gaetz's decision to end his bid for ag, the drumbeat to release the house ethics report anyway with his big political future a question mark right now. also ahead, extreme weather from coast to coast, a bomb cyclone drenching california, with record rainfall. where this storm system is headed next. and later, sean "diddy" combs to try again to get out on bail. but is the disgraced music mogul already trying to obstruct justice from behind bars. alreadt justice from behind bars hello on this friday, it is 10:00 eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific.
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i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. matt gaetz is out, pam bondi is in. president-elect trump has tapped another long time ally from florida to be his incoming attorney general. bondi was florida's top law enforcement official for eight years. she was part of trump's first impeachment defense team. she also promoted trump's false claims with the 2020 election. bondi's elevation coming hours after ex-congressman matt gaetz withdrew his name from consideration to lead the justice department. after allegations that he paid women for sex and unknowingly had sex with a minor in 2017, appeared to be sinking his confirmation prospects. gaetz denies all allegations. let's get to nbc's vaughn hillyard in florida, following the trump transition. and here in new york, former adviser to house speaker john boehner, maura gillespie, and former federal prosecutor kristy greenberg. vaughn, what can you tell us about pam bondi and how this big change all went down?
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>> reporter: pam bondi is an absolute loyal ally to donald trump, let's be clear. she served as florida attorney general from 2011 to 2019. she helped as legal adviser to donald trump in 2019. she has been a frequent presence on cable outlets, particularly fox and other right wing outlets defending him through the course of the impeachment proceedings, and also the indictments. she was out on the campaign trail for him in 2020, and 2024. she was in pennsylvania in the aftermath of the 2020 election, claiming that donald trump had actually won the election in 2020. and this is somebody who came under scrutiny, we should note, back in 2013 when her political organization received a $25,000 check from the trump foundation, which, of course, is now shut down and donald trump had to pay a fine of $2500 after there was a complaint that was filed to look into the trump university.
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and ultimately pam bondi, while attorney general, never investigated the trump university claims, and there were questions about potential impropriety, but ultimately these two stuck together through the years, she endorsed him over marco rubio in 2016, and all of these years later, now that matt gaetz is not the attorney general nominee, he's turned to pam bondi, the fellow floridian here in this moment, ahead of what could be, again, questions about an individual who has been clearly loyal to him, but somebody who is also not nearly as bombastic as matt gaetz. >> so, where does this lead then trump's defense secretary pick, pete hegseth, also facing allegations and questions about his experience. >> reporter: number one, on the sexual assault allegation against pete hegseth, this is one in which he was never formally charged by california police. pete hegseth is still going through this process. he met with senators this week
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here. of course, much of the attention is going to turn to him. but for i think matt gaetz was own unique individual in this, and republican senators sent a clear message that they're not going to be a rubber stamp to any nominee that donald trump puts forward just because they have a majority in the u.s. senate, doesn't mean that donald trump is going to get necessarily what he wants. but there is still going to be questions not only about the allegation made against pete hegseth, but also the extent to combat veteran, but is he is the best position to lead? that is where we're two months away from donald trump taking office, but there is still plenty of time for that scrutiny and confirmation hearings to take place. >> all right, thank you so much, vaughn hillyard for your reporting. maura, from an experienced standpoint, it seems that pam bondi is a more conventional choice. is that going to give her an easier path in the senate? >> it will.
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especially given the fact that matt gaetz was such a problem for so many in the republican party and i think even in the trump world they were shocked by his decision to pick matt gaetz initially. it does kind of ease the path for pam bondi ving forward and a couple other people who have been nominated or selected by trump transition team in helping them because of how bombastic matt gaetz was as a pick. >> is there any red flag you see with pam bondi again? >> personally, of course, a loyalist pick. she has credentials to back her up as opposed to matt gaetz having nothing behind him. so senators will be able to use that, the fact she's florida attorney general, be able to point to that and say she has credentials to do this job and they will bolster their support for her. but there is certainly red flags across the board when it comes to the trump team. >> let's talk about potential red flags when it comes to pam bondi. at the 2016 republican national convention, bondi joined others in the lock her up chants directed at hillary clinton, and
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she said this just last year, in fact, on fox. >> when republicans take back the white house, you know what's going to that, the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted. the bad ones. the investigators will be investigated. because the deep state last term for president trump, they were hiding in the shadows. but now they have a spotlight on them and they can all be investigated. >> is that someone who can be trusted to lead the justice department for all americans and without fear or favor in their work? >> no. that's somebody who is chosen so she can be loyal to donald trump. she's not there to serve the public. she's there to serve him. and when you hear rhetoric like that, that's the kind of person who should not be leading the justice department. this is somebody who also pedaled false election claims from 2020, saying that donald trump won pennsylvania, in a press conference when he did
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not, talking about fake ballots, when none existed and no evidence of it. so she is a dangerous pick, yes. is she a step above matt gaetz because she's not being investigated by doj that we know of? sure, but she was also a prosecutor. so, yes, a step up. but that is a very low bar and when you have somebody speaking in the way that she has, where really it is just about is she going to cater to donald trump's whims, is she going to serve out his personal agenda and his vendettas, is she there to really further his business interests, i have a feeling the answer to all those questions is yes, otherwise she wouldn't have gotten the nod. >> you served other republican leaders, maura, and pam bondi was somebody pushing election lies, trying to overturn the 2020 election. are you surprised that it almost seems like that stance has become a job requirement in trump's gop? >> there are so many who urged the president to stop with that, urged the trump maga world to
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stop pushing that lie because not a single judge found credibility to the claims. for the senators who don't like being pushed around by anyone essentially, think i think this problem for them for them to have to grapple with the question of the election of 2020. they know it wasn't fraudulent and no evidence to prove that it was otherwise. it is frustrating, i'm sure, for gop senators to keep up with this. >> jonathan swann of "the new york times" writes this, the controversy surrounding gaetz has already served a purpose for trump, whether intended or not. it made other trump choices for cabinet picks appear more reasonable, by comparison. there has been very little attention given to the fact that trump intends to nominate his personal lawyer todd blanche as deputy attorney general. your take on that, and are there any guardrails? >> well, it is a real concern. in any other administration, a
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president appointing his own personal lawyers would be a red flag. that is not something you want because, again, you want somebody there to uphold an oath to, you know, to make sure that they are furthering the interests of the constitution and the people and not of donald trump. he views the doj as his own law firm. that's what these picks suggest to me, when he's picking his own personal lawyers, pam bondi also on his impeachment defense team, she was one of his lawyers. you just had -- with respect to todd blanche, who is going to be, you know who nominated the deputy ag, just last month, judge chutkan in one of her orders said, look, this is not conduct that is befitting of experience defense counsel. you are using political rhetoric. that is your focus. not legal arguments. and just yesterday, in the new york case, they were -- they put forth a letter saying that the mandate of the nation's people should supersede what a jury has come forth in a verdict in that
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case. and so, just to say we should toss a jury's verdict because somebody was elected president, these are extreme positions. but because you're looking at somebody like matt gaetz, they seem less so. but they are extreme and they should be scrutinized. >> christie, maura, thank you both very much. let's bring in a senator who serves on the ry committee, peter welch of vermont. your reaction to pam bondi as trump's new attorney general pick? >> it raises the big question, there is no question that whoever the attorney general is will be loyal to trump. the question is will they also be loyal to the constitution and the rule of law. and the big worry that i have and i think america should have is whether there is a real intention on the part of president trump to follow through on his threats during the campaign, before, as to weaponize the justice department and go after political
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adversaries, like harris, like pelosi, like adam schiff, maybe biden. so, that's the real question. and that's the area of inquiry that i think all of us on the judiciary committee have to focus on. will this appointee serve the constitution even as we all know she will be loyal to donald trump? >> we just heard bondi in that clip in 2023 warning that if trump returns to the white house, people who investigated trump or prosecuted trump would get investigated or prosecuted himself. she said that out loud. how do you think that threat holds up to a senate confirmation process? do you see others in the other party among your body pushing back on that? and providing a guardrail to prevent it from actually happening? >> well, my hope is they will. because the focus of attention here will be does the awesome power of the attorney general be used basically to protect the constitution cross this line
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that we haven't crossed in this country before where you go after your political adversaries. and there just has been an immense amount of discussion by her, by president trump. that's got to be the serious line of inquiry. my hope is my republican colleagues who care very much about the rule of law will be seeing this as a serious question as opposed to just some idle speculation or loose talk by the president. >> at the end of the day, did all the gaetz drama end up making it an easier path for some of president-elect trump's other controversial picks like pete hegseth or rfk jr. or tulsi gabbard? >> no, i don't think so. i disagree with the clip because what i saw and i'm heartened by this, gaetz pulled out because he ran into opposition from republican senators. he didn't even talk to a single democrat. and what that indicated to me is that my colleagues on the republican side, who are going to play a major role here
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because they have the votes, are going to take seriously the constitutional responsibility we have in the senate for advise and consent. i think they care about the defense department and whether that's going to be well run, they care about commerce, they care about all of these agencies, and i think what you'll see is that the nominees will be given the benefit of the doubt, but not a blank check and all of us know and i hope my republican colleagues as well, yes, trump is a disruptor. but you can't appoint somebody who is going to destroy the institution itself. i have confidence that we're going to give a real serious hearing to each of these nominees and it is not as though we got rid of gaetz, so, clear sailing for everybody else. >> pete hegseth up for defense secretary, he met with republican senators yesterday. as that police report tied to a 2017 sexual assault investigation was made public, which sparked a mixed reaction among some of your gop colleagues. >> it is a pretty big problem
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given that we have, you know, we have a sexual assault problem in our military. this is why you have -- go through the scrutiny. i'm not going to prejudge him. but, yeah, it is a pretty concerning accusation. >> he's very qualified to do the job. he should do the job. and, you know, unfortunate situation that took place that he was accused of doing something that i don't believe he did. >> gaetz decided he didn't want to go through the process. if you have a nominee who wants to, i would say let him testify and let's not make judgments and conclusions until he had a chance to testify. >> we should say prosecutors never brought charges against hegseth, but police thought there was enough evidence to send prosecutors. hegseth paid a settlement to his accuser without admitting guilt. what is the potential impact of this police report on hegseth's confirmation and what is your bilg big takeaway from what we just heard? >> i think senator hawley stated it. we don't, know, but we will be
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inquiring about that. the military is a proud tradition of leading about integration and issues of inclusion in our society. and i think they were the first to integrate and it is a proud tradition in our army. and women in combat, 21% of the combat roles are women. my colleague, senator tammy baldwin, helicopter pilot, lost both legs, talk to her about women in combat. and then the other question with him is confidence. yes, he's a fox news commentator, and that's what apparently is a major job qualification for president trump. but is it really preparing you to lead this extraordinarily large organization, $800 billion budget. so the competence question is a concern on both sides of the aisle. >> some of your colleagues who do support him have pointed to his military experience, although point noted that he has not led the military or other
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agencies in any kind of capacity as a leader. thank you so much, democratic senator peter welch, we appreciate your time today. just ahead, i'll talk to a member of the house ethics committee about whether they could still release their report on matt gaetz even though he's withdrawn his name for ag. plus, weather whiplash, from a bomb cyclone and record rain out west, to the season's first snow, we're tracking it all. also, should religion be a part of the curriculum in public school? the visive push that has some parents losing faith in texas. and later, a wickedly divisive topic among moviegoers, should audiences sing along? the brewing debate that has some people green in the face as "wicked" casts its spell this weekend. we're back in 90 seconds. this weekend. we're back in 90 seconds you're eligible for medicare, it's a good idea to have original medicare. it gives you coverage for doctor office visits and hospital stays. but if you want even more benefits, you can choose a medicare
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potentially dropping up to 15 inches on an already soaked northern california. and freezing roads in the state's sierra nevada mountains. nbc meteorologist michelle grossman is here tracking it all for us. let's go out to nbc's chase cain in little river, california, south of mendocino. what are conditions like there this morning? >> reporter: the rain has tapered off at this moment, but parts of this area have gotten a foot of rain. that's why we're under a flood watch here, half a dozen rivers under a flood warning. we're along california highway 1, the famous road a lot of people know about this, that goes along the pacific ocean. 30 miles south of us, california 1 is completely closed because of flooding. there are some impacts in this area. several thousand people also here in the mendocino and sonoma county area without power this morning. but largely the impacts haven't been quite as bad as we feared, with some of the rainfall totals of 12 inches of ra in.in.
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there have been isolated mudslides and rock slides and some roads and lanes closed as times. but they have been able to get the roads back open pretty quickly. really so far from what we're seeing this morning, it has been a beneficial rain of, yes, there has been some isolated patches of flooding, but largely good news we're bringing this kind of rain to northern california and, oh, by the way, further land in the sierra, lots of ski resorts around lake tahoe are already opening. that's a little bit of good news. some people who want to go snow will have the opportunity to do so. >> let's focus on the positive as much as we can, but thank you for the reality check on the ground. what are we walking into this weekend, michelle? >> we're going to look at more of the same. unsettled in the northwest. unsettled in the northeast. we have a lot of snow falling in spots in the northeast. let's start in the northwest, though. we have that storm that chase just talked about, that atmospheric river, the bomb cyclone and lots of rain in
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certain spots where we could see a foot of rain in some spots. that leads the chance of more rock slides, landslides, flooding, especially in the sierra foothills. that's what we're watching. the middle of the country looks good. the northeast, we're watching this linger over the area, retrograding back, that sit and spin type activity and we're looking at a lot of snow in some spots. saturday, still unsettled in the west, into the inner mountain west with rain and also snow. really tricky travel there. the east we clear up a bit. we're going to see this area of low pressure move off the coast. still seeing it spin back some moisture into parts of the interior parts of the northeast and northern new england, parts of new england, by sunday, most of that is combined to the northern parts of new england. otherwise, we clear it out in the east coast on sunday. still looking at no relief into the pacific northwest. tough days there ahead over the next three days. take a look at this radar. this is crazy. this is the northeast. all this snow is falling. where you see these lighter
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blues, whiter colors, that's the heaviest amount of snowfall. in the poconos, a foot and a half. new jersey, new york, nearly a foot of snow. this is really heavy wet snow, good snowball making snow. but really makes for tough travel. we'll be very, very beneficial though for the drought, not going to knock out the drought, it will certainly help. we have rain spinning around this too. it is going to stay in place, a dreary friday, we're going to start out dreary on saturday before we start to clear it out on sunday. we have winter alerts as expected with that snow falling, 10 million people impacted with winter storm warnings, winter weather advisories, from scranton to johnstown, elkins, beckley, a lot of these pictures here, we saw a lot of snow falling in many, many spots. pretty picture, tough travel. >> tough travel, maybe just stay inside and that rain offering good sleeping conditions. >> yes. >> a lazy weekend in my house. thank you so much.
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up next here on "ana cabrera reports," new fallout from the international criminal court's arrest warrant for israel's prime minister. could it embolden netanyahu? plus, 1,000 days of war in ukraine punctuated by russia dropping a new missile on the battlefield. the new saber rattling from vladimir putin when we come back. e new saber rattling from vladimir putin when we come back rough the power of dell ai with intel. so those who receive can find the joy of giving back. your memory is an amazing thing, but sometimes it can start to slow down. but did you know prevagen can help keep your memory sharp? the secret is the powerful ingredient, apoaequorin, originally discovered in jellyfish and found only in prevagen. in a clinical study, prevagen was shown to improve memory in subgroups of individuals who were cognitively normal or mildly impaired. stay sharp and improve your memory with prevagen. prevagen. in stores everywhere without a prescription.
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new and varying reactions from around the world this morning, to the international criminal courts arrest warrants issued for israel's prime minister netanyahu and his former defense minister, both accused of war crimes. the eu's foreign policy chief is urging european nations to respect it. that's in contrast to the biden administration which rejected it, calling the decision outrageous. meantime, hungary's prime minister victor orban says the warrant would not be observed. raf sanchez is in israel with
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more now on what this means for the leader and the war in gaza. >> reporter: these arrest warrants issued bit international criminal court setting off a diplomatic firestorm, not just here in the mideast, but also in the united states and really around the world. the international criminal court says there are reasonable grounds to believe that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his defense minister yoav gallant used starvation as a weapon of war, by deliberately blocking humanitarian aid to gaza. they say that israel also at times deliberately targeted palestinian civilians. the death poll toll in gaza now 44,000 according to the gaza health ministry, who says the majority of the dead are women and children. israel says hamas deliberately hides among the palestinian civilian population in gaza and as you can imagine, netanyahu coming out swinging, denouncing these warrants as antisemitic,
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saying that they undermine the ability of democracies all over the world to fight against terrorism. now, it is unlikely netanyahu is going to end up in handcuffs anytime soon. but he is now in a club along with vladimir putin of world leaders who are wanted for war crimes. and this does have the potential to severely limit netanyahu's ability to travel to any of the 124 countries who are members of the court. that includes most of the world's major democracies, uk, france, canada. we are seeing the u.s. which is not a signatory to the icc condemning this decision. the biden administration saying it utterly rejects any comparison between the democratic elected leaders of israel and the leadership of hamas, which the court also was also seeking arrest warrants for. we are also seeing the incoming trump administration, president-elect trump's new
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national security adviser to be threatening that there will be consequences for the court once trump takes office in january. republicans in the united states senate threatening to impose sanctions. our team in gaza speaking to just ordinary people there, there is a real weariness, kind of understands that the court's ruling is not going to lead to an end to the war in and of itself. one major outlier, in terms of the international reaction, victor orban, the authoritarian prime minister of hungary, he sent netanyahu a letter today saying that unlike basically everywhere else in western europe, hung ary will not abide by the icc warrants and he's guaranteeing if netanyahu comes to visit hungary, his personal freedom will be guaranteed and he will not face arrest. i'll send it back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you so much. now to the latest in the war in ukraine. and putin confirms russia
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launched a new intermediate range ballistic missile at ukraine. in response, to ukraine firing u.s. and british supplied longer range weapons earlier this week. in a televised address, putin warned countries sending weapons to ukraine that they too could be targeted. the u.s. defense department calls russia's strike concerning as it showed a new type of lethal capability on the battlefield. but the pentagon also noted that russia had warned the u.s. of their attack. and nbc's richard engel is live for us in kyiv now. describe what is different about this missile and the severity of this escalation we're seeing by russia? >> reporter: well, what is different is the speed. it is a hypersonic missile and president putin said it can fly ten times the speed of sound. it was fired at a munitions factory near the city of dnipro according to russia. causing no casualties.
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putin described it as a test and then today the ukrainian intelligence services described them as having flown 11 times the speed of sound, six different warheads, the intelligence services listed the research facilities that were involved in its development, where the weapon has been tested, so there was a bit of a game of cat and mouse with ukrainians demonstrating to the russians that they know what they're up to, they know everything there is to know about this weapon that didn't cause much damage. but certainly sent a message here, a message heard. parliament was canceled today. and president zelenskyy's office put out a statement, reassuring people that he is still working, but would return to a -- would go to a bomb shelter if necessary. >> richard, we're really seeing russia on the offensive right now. the season is changing there. that makes for difficult battle conditions.
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what more are we learning about how ukraine is moving forward? what is their plan? >> reporter: well, there is a sense that these could be the final rounds before some sort of cease-fire is brought by president trump, president trump said repeatedly he was going to end this war in a day, and there is an expectation that something could change. president zelenskyy said he will do his utmost to end the war next year. and he also said he believes that the trump administration will push for an end to conflict. but the question is what kind of terms, what kind of terms could ukraine accept? there is a sense in the united states and when i talk to people around the world that if ukraine just gives up territory, if it gave up 20%, then the war would be over and everyone could go back to normal. that is not at all the sentiment here. they believe that vladimir putin will not stop, that if you give -- if this country gives up
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20%, then in a few years, putin will come back and take more territory. so as a baseline for cease-fire, they want enough weapons, an alliance with nato, want to make themselves harder so at least if they give up this territory, a few years down the line, they don't have to give up more and they say they gave up crimea, they could have to give up the donbas and they want to make sure this won't keep happening. >> richard engel, thanks for shining light and stay safe, my friend. up next on "ana cabrera reports," even though matt gaetz withdrew his name from consideration for attorney general, could the house ethics committee still release their report on the ex-congressman? i'll talk to a member of that committee, congressman glenn ivey about the next steps. students one step closer to having the bible infused in their curriculum. the key vote happening today. nf their curriculum the key vote happening today
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i think that this should end the discussion of whether or not the ethics committee should continue to move forward in this matter. he has withdrawn his nomination. he's no longer a member of congress. i this nk this should settle an involvement the ethics committee should have in the involvement of matt gaetz. >> the man you just heard from was congressman michael guest, the republican chair of the house ethics committee, saying gaetz's withdrawal should end the discussion. house democrats are vowing to press ahead to release that report, claiming the public has a right to know what is inside those pages. and joining us now is democratic congressman glenn ivey of maryland. a member of the ethics committee, also served on the homeland security and judicial committees. congressman, thank you for being here. you said you still believe the
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ethics report on gaetz should be released. why? >> yeah, i mean, there is precedent for that. we had other members of congress retire or leave their service in congress for one reason or another, but still release the ethics report depending on the circumstances. and the fact that he's not in congress now doesn't mean he won't be in congress again in january. so, he resigned from his seat currently, but he was re-elected and so he's a congressman-elect as well. he could come back and become a member of the next congress on january 3rd. in addition to that you know, if marco rubio gets through the nomination process and confirmed to the trump cabinet, it is potentially -- it is a possibility he could become a member of the senate by appointment in florida. and there is always, you know, other possibilities with respect to his career running for governor, for example, or other potential appointments to the
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trump administration. so, it certainly hasn't been resolved in my view from a precedent standpoint or looking down the road standpoint. >> so some of your fellow democrats have pushed to hold a floor vote on releasing that report. is that the right move and do you believe there is bipartisan support for that? >> you know, i'm not sure if there is bipartisan support or not. i know people have -- there were a number of republicans in the senate and house that had expressed concerns about his nomination. whether they would still view it that way at this point i'm not sure. and i'm not even sure actually if the people who offered those rez dugases solutions are going forward with those. that's one possible avenue. another is when we go back on december 5th, to the next ethics committee meeting, we may be able to resolve something at that point too. i don't know. and i can't really speak to the potential dynamics of that meeting. i think we'll have to see how it plays out. >> congressman, just in, we're
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learning judge merchan here in new york granted the stay on trump's sentencing. that was scheduled for next week in the new york hush money case, where he was convicted. what is your reaction? >> well, i got mixed feelings about it. on the one hand, i understand why the judge would delay it because, you know, if he's going to sentence him to jail, for example, you're not going to sentence the president to jail while he's in the white house. you end up staying the sentence in any event. and it might make sense to wait for a variety of reasons in addition to that. on the other hand, you know, we heard from mr. trump talking about two tiers of justice for, i don't know, three years or so. and him saying he was getting the short end of justice. i think it is beyond clear at this point that he's gotten special breaks that a regular person would not have gotten. every day of the week people who
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had been convicted of felonies can't get regular jobs, much less elected to the white house and to postpone the sentencing is something they don't have a chance to do. so, it is disappointing in that respect. hopefully we'll be able to do a point where he's held accountable for what he's done and have to wait four years, but hopefully accountability will come. >> there have been the threats of retribution and we started this segment talking about matt gaetz withdrawing as ag and the ethics report into him, we have a new pick for trump's nominee for attorney general, which is pam bondi, a former attorney general in florida. she served on mr. trump's legal team. what do you think of this choice to lead the justice department and do you take the threats of retribution seriously? >> well, you know, you can't govern if you're scared of retribution, i think. i think it is sad the threats
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are being made because obviously they're inappropriate and i think people are trying to govern in the good faith manner. certainly i know that's my approach. but the other part of your question, you know, this seems to be a better pick than mr. gaetz, but that's not setting a high bar particularly. i'll say this, marco rubio pick i thought was a good one. it was the first one and so it gave me some hope that maybe mr. trump was going to take this process in a better direction than he had previously. but it went downhill pretty fast after that. and so bondi's better than gaetz, at least she's got legal experience, at least she's got prosecutorial experience, at least she's got managerial experience, but the other stuff, the election denialism is of concern and, you know, we can't count on the the vetting process of the trump transition team, and we have seen that with the
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secretary of defense nomination, the gaetz nomination, tulsi gabbard's nomination. they're missing big things. i'll be curious to see how the vetting goes for miss bondi as well. >> well, thank you so much, democratic congressman glenn ivey, really appreciate your time today. look forward to having more conversations on the gaetz situation, which still continues. we know that potential floor vote is going to happen, if it happens after thanksgiving. more now on the breaking news in president-elect trump's hush money case. the judge officially granting trump's request for a stay on trump's sentencing, but he says he will entertain the argument for dismissing the case altogether. i want to bring in vaughn hillyard. tell us more about what we know right now. >> reporter: we now know that this sentencing is going to be indefinitely delayed and that this means effectively that donald trump, if he is ever to
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be sentenced for the 34 felony convictions from this hush money payment scheme trial, that that sentencing is most likely to not take place until 2029 after donald trump would hypothetically be out of the white house. this is coming down from judge merchan, who granted the request, we should note, from both sides to indefinitely postpone this sentencing. he also granted the request from the defendants and from the d.a.'s office to allow for the motion to dismiss to be heard on december 2nd is when donald trump's legal team will have to file their motion to dismiss and then one week later is when the prosecution from district attorney alvin bragg's office will be able to file their response. of course, that is going to be outstanding of whether donald trump will ever see the light of day for sentencing if judge merchan were to grant the dismissal of the convictions in their entirety. there is still much on the line
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here, and, of course, 2029 would still lead to potential repercussions if that sentencing were to take place. but a lot could happen between now and then and for donald trump, you know, you mentioned pam bondi, i think it is worth going back to all the people that stood by him during that seven-week trial and one of those individuals, ana, was the former florida attorney general pam bondi who came to his defense and so, fast-forward from when the conversations you and i were having back in april and may about the potential repercussions that donald trump could face if he lost the election. it is now becoming increasingly more likely that he may never face any consequences for the jury decision that found him guilty on the 34 felony counts. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you so much for that update. here with any now, lisa rubin. what is your read on this new motion or filing from the judge? >> a couple of interesting things about it. it is obviously only one page, so not much to read into it. but a close read of it shows
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that there is more than meets the eye here. first of all, in calling off the sentencing, judge merchan, i'm reading from my phone because this is so new that he's ordering that the application for a stay of sentencing is granted and here's the key phrase, to the extent that the november 26, '24 date is adjourned. and then he talks about the briefing for the motion to dismiss, saying he'll take a brief from them on december 2nd and opposition from the d.a.'s office on december 9th. that's the date they proposed to oppose it. what todd blanche wanted was to put in his opening brief on december 20th. when you were and i were talking about this earlier in the week, i noted to you if that were the deadline, this briefing would likely go into a period of time where former president trump and president-elect trump becomes sitting president trump. that is unlikely to happen now because what he is saying is i will accept no reply briefs, meaning the briefing will be done in its entirety by december 9th and i'm expecting to make
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some form of decision on this motion to dismiss, probably before the holidays if i had to read the tea leaves here from judge merchan. staying the sentencing only with respect to that existing sentencing date. he's not indefinitely staying. he's saying i'm calling off the sentencing that was scheduled for next week, and i'll take a briefing, but not on the timeline that you trump lawyers want. >> and remind us of the arguments trump's defense team is making for dismissal. >> they're saying once trump becomes president again, it is not just a question of his being immune from the introduction of certain evidence that was already introduced in the trial, but as a sitting president, he will not be constitutionally able to be prosecuted, that is pursuant to a policy from the department of justice, the federal department of justice. that's not binding on a state, much less law that binds the federal government. but they're saying those constitutional principles that would cause the department of justice to say a sitting president shouldn't be prosecuted, those should translate to this setting as
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well. and that they should translate to the transition as well, trump is essentially so occupied with planning the transition, which has to do with his core constitutional responsibilities that he shouldn't be burdened by having to think about the sentencing, the d.a.'s office saying, look, if we agree to postpone this, well into the future, and understand that he might not be sentenced until after he is no longer president, there is nothing for him to do. there is no burden on him that should carry no water here. >> this order is literally less than one page is my understanding here. kristy greenberg is joining us, former federal prosecutor here in new york. what is your read on this decision by judge merchan? do you have a sense of where his head is at in these few words? >> it is not surprising that he is staying this sentencing, right? both parties have requested that, given that both parties have requested it, it would have been odd if he insisted on having it. it is interesting as lisa pointed out that he did not accept the briefing schedule
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proposed by defendants, which would have left the government then have to spend their holidays responding and so he set a much quicker briefing schedule for this to be resolved as to whether or not this motion to dismiss the case entirely is actually, you know, going to be taken up and what that will look like. i would be shocked if judge merchan dismissed the case outright. there is no basis for that, nothing i've seen in the very short submission already from the defense cites to any legal authority suggesting that that should be the proper outcome to just toss a jury's verdict because now trump is going to be president again. i expect that judge merchan will deny that, but i do think that staying the proceedings is where we will be, and that this e ing won't take place until after his term is concluded. >> we have been waiting on answers for a lot of kind of outstanding questions, really since that presidential immunity decision came down by the
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supreme court. did we get an answer as far as whether judge merchan thinks the case and sentencing could move forward on that piece at all yet? >> no, because what he's doing here in this order is in addition to staying the sentencing, he's staying his decision on the underlying motion from trump's lawyers months ago to say, you should set aside the verdict on the basis that some of the evidence that was admitted at the trial should have been excluded on the basis of that immunity decision. >> hope hicks was in the white house. >> right. and he was tweeting while he was president about michael cohen, for example, those were tweets introduced in evidence. what the judge is saying in this one page order is i'm setting that aside because the motion you intend to bring now, trump lawyers, is more fundamental, not just about setting aside a verdict, it is about wiping the slate entirely clean of the indictment as if it never happened to begin with, as if the case never existed. not just setting back the clock to a point and time to have another trial. >> final thought to you, do you think at the end of the day
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there will be some conclusion to this case? >> again, i think this conviction will be upheld. i do think that this idea of setting aside the verdict based on the fact that this was for conduct that was unofficial conduct, anything that may have been official, that came in during the trial i think really is not anything that would have been so significant that it would have affected the verdict, so i think ultimately, whatever the decision happens, whether it is now, before trump takes office or later, this case will stand, the convictions will be upheld. as to sentencing or accountability, that's a long ways off and i'm sure that is frustrating for anybody that has sat through this trial and was hoping for some word of what would happen sooner than that. but i think that's a long ways off. >> kristy greenberg, lisa rubin, thank you for walking us through this breaking news. good to have you here. up next on "ana cabrera
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welcome back. in just a few hours now, disgraced music mogul sean "diddy" combs will be in court for a third time looking to get out on bail. he has been held in a brooklyn jail since his arrest in september facing federal charges including racketeering, sex trafficking, accused of abusing women for years. he pled not guilty. today's hearing comes days after prosecutors allege he is attempting to obstruct justice from behind bars. and for more on this msnbc entertainment correspondent is joining us. so he tried and failed a couple of titles to get out on bail. why are we doing this all over again? >> twofold. he has been housed at the metropolitan detention center in brooklyn, a notorious jail here in new york, and doesn't want to be there. he claiming via his attorneys and i was there at that hearing
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about that sweep of the jail cell where his team claims that prosecutors wrongly took 16 pages of his notes that show his defense strategy, which show the witnesses they plan to call, that he doesn't feel he can properly prepare for his criminal trial in may if he is behind bars because the government is looking over his shoulder. i was in the courtroom wednesday. the judge gave him a legal vibltry, saying that the government can't use the notes that they wrongly obtained, they needed to give them back and not use them. >> the government also now saying he has been trying to obstruct justice from behind bars? >> so here's the thing. i want to point out something. mike jeffries is accused of sex trafficking and prostitution. it's not necessarily a similar case to diddy's, but he was let out on a taen million dollars bail last month. we might here that today. the government is saying the new york prosecutors that they don't want combs to get out because he is trying to object instruct justice behind bars, he has been
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trying to tamper with witnesses, he is trying to taint the jury pool, that he has been trying to pay off -- at the trial make it harder for the government to make their case. so this is going to be a very, very fiery court hearing this afternoon and i will be there. >> thanks for following everything. and that does if for us this week. thank you for joining us. we will see you back here monday same time, same place. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right after a quick break. drop everything and get some magic of your own during the xfinity black friday sale. xfinity internet customers, our best deals of the year are back! switch to xfinity mobile and get your choice of a free 5g phone,
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