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♪♪ welcome back to "the weekend" everybody. so joe biden's presidency be coming to an end, but senate democrats are cements his legacy. judicial appointments. those led by chuck schumer reached a deal with republican counterparts to forego votes on supreme court nominees in exchange for speedy process on a

dozen lower court nominations. the first term nominations are running behind the first term. time is running on ut to close that gap. joining us now is it senator alex padilla. he is a member of the senate judiciary committee. >> senator alex padilla, thank you for joining us this morning. we appreciate your time. can you explain for us the decision that was made to broker this deal, if you will, in exchange for some of the lower court judge confirmations which, to be clear, are important. just this past week, the 200th judge was confirmed, the 200th judge that president biden was put forth was confirmed and historic. however, leaving for ur appeals court seats open to have donald trump fill.

help us understand the deal. >> i appreciate the question bright and early from the west coast. what is unclear is if this deal is sort of a schedule of the week or if this is the deal for the rest of the month or rest of the session of congress. senator schumer said they traded away maybe some appointments where the votes were not necessarily there. let's try. we have to try everything we can every day that we can between now and the end of session to confirm as many federal judges as possible. circuit court, district courts. i do think my colleagues are ready to stay overnight and work over the weekends, whatever it takes to get as many judges confirmed as possible. i think the country is well aware of the importance of the supreme court justices when it comes to important policy law and the future of our country. we should not lose sight of how important circuit court judges are for decades to come. >> to that point, you have

judges urging congress to expand federal trial reports from bloomberg. the senate passed the judges act sponsor the by todd young and chris coons in august that would add 63 permanent and those handed out over the next decade. the legislation could face issues from democrats like nadler. he said he was leery of giving president-elect donald trump more judges to appoint. how are you thinking about this, sir? >> yeah, look, i'm a co-sponsor of that legislation and well in the negotiations, look, it was tricky. you had republicans who did not want to support providing potentially president biden in the second term more judges to appoint or potential president harris in her first term more judges to appoint. democrats are concerned about donald trump appointing more judges. the bill was structured to sort of pace the expansion of the

judiciary so the president would have a few more and the president would have a few more and the term after that would have a few more. i still remain supportive of the legislation because at the end of the day, there are capacity concerns. we have judges in a number of districts throughout the country, including california, that are overworked and the case load is huge. when it's delays in the justice system, we know justice delayed is justice denied. i'm still supportive of the legislation and we will see what the house of representatives does between now and the end of skegs. >> senator, i know senator schumer going back to the trade for the four circuit judges for lower court appointments saying they lack the votes to get confirmed. i want to put out there that's the fight. that's the fight. at the end of the day, the appeals court seats are much

more valuable to donald trump than, you know, the lower court seats. why? because he knows everything flows upstream and the appeals court is going to make a louder bang and noise for his purposes than a lower court, but that aside, you have that process in which the democrats are trying to maneuver and position for joe biden's remaining months. you have "the washington post" reporting that jack smith's team is about to be fired by donald trump. donald trump plans to fire the entire team that work would special counsel jack smith with the secution against the former president. particularly political retribution. what do democrats plan to do because we know this is happening? maybe people sit around in washington with their thumbs in

the usual places and then all of a sudden this happens and everybody in washington is shocked. oh, my god and doesn't have a plan. we know he's going to do it. he is telling us he's going to do it. what's the plan to protect the career lawyers who did their jobs? >> right. so, look, i appreciate the question because for all of the attention over what will happen come january 20th and what needs to be done in the interim when you it is confirming the judges that we've been talking about or from the california prospective is protecting fema dollars and ensuring waivers that have been pending and finalized before trump takes office. when it comes to things like matt gaetz investigation, the fbi investigations for our consideration going forward and in this particular case, what can we do to preserve the -- the

professionals within the agency. this is why the attorney general position is so important. we know trump will try to politicize the department of justice. this is one small example of what's to come. you have to protect the professionals, but protect the information, the evidence, the information you gathered whether for policy making down the road or for true consideration. the senate has the role to play in selecting his cabinet and other administration officials. stakes are high. stakes are high. we will continue to work hard all the way to the last day. >> let's -- let's talk about the advise and consent role, senator. obviously, matt gaetz was donald trump's first selection for attorney general. he is now out. his new selection, am bondi, she has not been accused for investigated for paying for sex

with an underaged person, but pam bondi has shown how willing she is to use her authority to help donald trump. this is from "the washington post." bondi was one of a coterie of trump allies who barnstormed the country. she appeared at press conference events with former new york mayor rudy giuliani. she was no longer attorney general of florida, but her past title used as a means of establishing a means of her authority. pam bondi has the basic qualifications. she did serve as the florida top prosecutor for a number of years. she has years of experience. what do you feel about pam bondi serving as the country's attorney general? >> i think for starters, to

president-elect trump's team and transition team, nice try. i think a lot of people are saying they put out matt gaetz in the beginning and now razy and nonsensical that was to make pam bondi look more confirmable. now the questions begin. as the former secretary of state for me, it starts with the false allegations of the voter fraud in the 2020 election and refusing to accept the results of the 2020 election. she should know better. we asked for the evidence back then. we didn't get it. here we are eight years later and no evidence of massive voter fraud. why was she quick to dismiss the charges of trump university soon after she got a political contribution from trump's foundation? that is suspect. the fact that she defended him in his first impeachment also

calls into question if she were to be confirmed, republicans give trump what he wants. is she an independent attorney general upholding the constitution of the united states or is she planning to do trump's personal bidding? we know what trump wants. looking forward to the confirmation hearing. >> senator, i have questions i'll ask in the next block. before we go to commercial break, the funding set up on the hill. you have until december 20th to avert a government shutdown. there are some republicans who want to see that pushed ahead to january. how do you think this lands? >> yeah, i think still to be determined. there is still time to strike a deal and get a responsible fiscal budget that we've already begun. regardless before the 20th or after the 20th, between the filibuster rules in the senate

and such narrow majority in the house, it has to be bipartisan at the end of the day. you see a split among house leadership. a lot to hash out. >> senator, it was wishful thinking you were staying. thank you so much for getting up early and being with us. after a quick break, we will continue this conversation. this is "the weekend" on msnbc. c wetjet absorbs and locks grime deep inside. look at that! swiffer wetjet. asthma. does it have you missing out on what you love, with who you love? get back to better breathing with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems. serious allergic reactions may occur. get help for swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens or you have a parasitic infection.

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pam bondi, the new pick to head the attorney general has known trump for years. in years before that, in 2013, trump's foundation gave $25,000 to the pac to support her when she was florida's attorney general. around the same time, bondi decided to not take action against trump university after

the office was asked to investigate. here is bondi last year usual issuing this warning if trump were to return to power. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted. the bad pun ones. investigators will be investigated. they were hiding in the shadows. now they have a spotlight on them. they can be investigated and the house needs to be cleaned out. now we know who most of them are. there's a record of it and we can clean house next term. that's what has to happen. >> joining us now is marc elias. the chair of the elias law group. >> there's so many places to begin with this one because, you know, i think, you know, senator alex padilla and others and dave weigel and mo in the last

conversation with the dnc and adjusting to the new landscape and bring up softer and still wild or more wild. you have this very interesting exchange with steve ducey i thought was very telling on fox news. take a listen to bondi on 2020 and the fake ballots. >> we do have evidence of cheating. i'll talk about that in a minute. we are still on the ground in pennsylvania. i am here and we are not going anywhere until they declare that we won pennsylvania. >> pam, did you just say fake ballots sm. >> there could be. that's the problem. >> do you have any evidence? have you heard stories of, you know, ballots that are fake and, if so, tell us what you know. >> well, we know ballots have been dumped. there were ballots found early on. >> just to clarify again, because we have to, because we need to, no evidence has

emerged, ever emerged to support widespread fraud in the 2020 election. this is the woman who will be head of our justice department. what concerns you with this pick, marc? >> look, she's an election denier. just straight out and out. steve ducey, of all people was dubious of her claim of fake ballots. steve duce yorks y, on the clai. you have come a long way. not only was the 2020 election fair and free and the results accurate, but, you know, this notion of fake ballots. that's is even something most of the trump world was embracing. the idea of fake ballots in pennsylvania. that was on the fringe of the fringe. look, you know, a few weeks ago, it was widely accepted in the mainstream media and democratic

politics in the center of american political discourse that election denialism was disqualifying. you could be a lot of things, but not an election denier. here we have someone who is an election denier nominated and in some corners treated as a more acceptable pick simply because she is not a sexual predator like the last nominee. >> you know, marc, that is a really important point. the last nominee was a sexual predator and he didn't have the basic qualifications. he lost his license to be able to actice law in florida in the last year and a half because he didn't pay his dues. he since paid it before being nominated. it's like you go from somebody that only was ever a lawyer once in private practice for a short amount of time and then went into and became an elected

official to someone who is a former attorney general of florida, right, you are like okay, pam bondi is qualified. it's like the bar was down here, okay? under the thing. she is an election denier. it should be disqualifying. what -- we that is the thing that has me most worried because the fact is we haven't even gotten to january 20th. we haven't gotten to the point which donald trump can normalize the abnormal from the oval office. he is already managing to move the window from unacceptable to accept able just in the few weeks that he after the election. you know, now is the time we all need to stiffen our spines and harden our fortresses around democracy. now is not the time to capitulate or apiece. now is the time to speak with more moral clarity than we did before the election because that is what is going to be required

for the next four years and certainly, it is what is required between now and january 20th. >> it is telling that there is an an old stephen colbert clip where pam bondi is only person to make money off trump university. that would be the scandal we focus on or pam bondi allowing for the coteire government here in the united states. marc, if you were preparing senate democrats for these confirmation hearings, what are the top questions you would propose they ask? >> yeah, so, the question i always asked before the election was somebody asked donald trump what state he legitimately lost in 2020. one thing i would do is revisit comments in 2020 and ask if she stands by them and what evidence she now has of fraud in pennsylvania and where else. she will say that is ancient

history. we don't need to cover that. the truth is we do need to cover it. the moment we move on from allowing people to make irresponsible statements about the 2020 election, which they still stand by. she won't repud yat it. she'll say let's move on. the moment she continues to allow to wiggle out there, we lose out there. the other thing is important is the clip you played. everyone needs to focus on this. she has said there he needs to be political prosecution. she said they need to investigate the investigators not because she had any knowledge, not because she was privy to any wrongdoing, but trump wants to go after the voth investigators or anyone who stood up to him. to have the power to oversee criminal investigations and parrot that language, she has to be asked about that. that is not only not normal,

that is absolutely dangerous. >> marc, i think bringing the limbs out a little bit because i think the justice department is clearly going to be a critical lynchpin because the way donald trump views the attorney general and the lawyers and get rid of jack smith and those who did their jobs and career politicians, excuse me, lawyers. how does democracy docket reposition itself in this environment as you've already clearly stated being laid out? taking the abnormal and making it normal. making the unusual and making it usual. taking the suspicious and making it very familiar. >> one of the reasons i wanted to come on and talk to you today is because i know you are all in this fight. democracy docket was started in 2020. i started it to be a clear voice for things in democracy and the courts. over the last few years, i have

watched a number of prominent people in the media and politics try to engage in authoritarian o obedience. one thing i promise you, democracy docket will never obey. it will will day in and day ou expose the attacks on democracy and make sure there is an outlet for people who want the news and information just like you are an outlet for that news and information. >> i assure you we are not pulling punches at this table. >> absolutely. >> i know that for sure. >> this is an important conversation to have because so many -- i do think on one hand there are people legitimately scared. they are scared about what -- what getting your name checked by donald trump means for you and your personal life. they are scared about what he might do with the levers of the

federal government and enact that retribution. there are other folks saying this is a new world order. we have to get in line and get along, but i -- i believe in democracy. i think we all here do believe in democracy. i believe in, you know, we the people to form a more perfect union and we have expanded since the words were first written in the preamble to the constitution. i -- i think it is a duty to warn people about what could potentially happen and to speak truth about what is really going on. you do that on a regular basis, marc. >> yeah, look, i wrote something on democracy a couple of days ago called the choices i make. look, i acknowledge am i scared? yes. has donald trump name checked me? yes. has he said he is going to go after, you know, lawyers? yes. but the fact is we all have to at that moment decide whether

we're going to shrink away and accommodate donald trump or whether we will stand by our principles and stand up to him. for the people who accommodate him, here is my message. it's not going to work. donald trump thrives off fear. he wants to conform to his will. it doesn't protect you from anything. what will protect you is if all of us stand up and continue to speak out in the town square with clear voice that there is right and there is wrong and that protecting democracy is the right thing to do. >> marc elias, i'm raising my mug to you today, sir. thank you, next up, folks, we get into donald trump -- well. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. this what seems to be a whole situation. i can't even. this is "the weekend." even this is "the weekend." so, in 14 days see visibly better skin. olay body wash. discover yours.

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michael steele is still a republican, ladies and gentlemen. speaking of republicans, republicans in the house and sdmet senate have announced plans to work with the department of government efficiency. last night, we learned joan i ernst will lead the caucus in the senate and take an earlier in the weekend, it was announced that marjorie taylor greene would lead the sub committee in the house. is it doge or doge? >> it's dodge. >> oh, dodge. we're going with dodge? >> it's like tar-get. >> okay. we don't -- we don't think we have official pronunciation. >> it is doge. it's a crypto term. doge. >> i think we get it right up in here. thank you, michael. >> bling-bling.

>> joanie rnst ran on cutting out the waste and she hadn't done it. that is why she is chairing the caucus. of course not. >> i love the idea of building a government sub committee because the thing you want to do is dismantle bureaucracy. it's a little circular to me. i also loved aoc's response to mtg being named to the committee. she doesn't show up or do the reading. this may be the perfect gig for her. >> very little reading involved. a lot of folks sitting around talking to each other which is why elon and vivek are now doing a podcast for doge. okay, we got a podcast to tell us what? look, this is all part of the

reality tv production, the three theatrics around the government that is debt try men al to those in the government and the american people. we can't lose sight the way these are set up the way they are whether it is marjorie taylor greene or someone else in a room talking to themselves. the reality of it is the impact could have profound consequences for families out there and individuals who need those services. >> i just want to note, they just can't do whatever they -- it's not like vivek ramaswamy and elon musk because they say it it's going to happen. there are still processes. how will the trump administration get around the processes? elon musk wanted to defund planned parenthood. is congress going to vote on it? that's how it work.

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[ screeching ] [ chuckling ] [ vocalizing ] that's a choice. [ vocalizing ] think of what we could do together. congressional democrats are already planting the seeds to take back congress in 2026 with a new leadership appointment. susie lee was elected to serve

this week. the position which lee created in 2022 was designed to ensure democrats in the most competitive disdistricts have a day which i think is critically important, including how democrats should fight back. oh, there's a good word, during trump's second term. congresswoman susie lee is here at the table with us. great to have you you here. >> thank you. >> i spoke to secretary buttigieg, but i got his take on how democrats should move forward. i want to play it for you. take a listen. >> the point of all of this is to make somebody's every day life better and that's true whether we're talking about literal ad and butter issues and by literal, agriculture policy, or whether we're talking about what is classed as social issues. the reason it matters.

what all of those things have in common is every day life and how it gets better or worse based on the decisions the people in big white buildings in washington, d.c. and closer to home in city hall and everywhere in between make. we have to orient our practice around that. our rhetoric, of course, but also our work. >> i'm wondering what you think about that. you represent the third congressional district. i know you have been in conversation with many members across the spectrum within the caucus. just about how y'all can win. democrats have good ideas, but the good ideas mean nothing if you are not elected or i mplemet them. >> absolutely. first, we need to understand our constituents are struggling. that is really what came to light in this election. it was really about we have issues that are urgent. those are your bread and butter every day paying your rent and buying groceries and making the

paycheck last a month. you have the issues that are important. freedom to choose and democracy. throws important issues, but people really made it known at the ballot box that urgent was the issue they were voting with this year. >> congresswoman -- >> go ahead. >> i'm struck we're having the conversation nationally and one playing out in nevada. i think everyone knew at some point the rejuggernaut would need to be revisited and imagined. i want to read this from nbc news. democrats received a bruising defeat in nevada for the first time in 20 years with a swing to republicans. the nominee lost, jacky rosen won re-election and all three closely divided area house districts won. democrats held their ground in the state legislature falling just shy of supermajority. what is the lesson for national

democrats out of nevada? >> i think it is not only do we need to turn out our base, but we need to be on the ground having those important conversations with people in the middle. nevada, in my district, the plurality of voters are independents. they voted for trump, but they also voted for me. it is not just about making sure we get out the vote to our base, but also having those important conversations to those people in the middle who don't watch msnbc or cnn every single day who are literally trying to get their kids to school or care for their parents or pay their bills or grocery shop and making sure we have those conversations is part of how we move forward. i'll just say this, the reid machine that people think is broken, one, the of is in the

pudding that the down ballot ticket is winning. the lesson we should take out of this is get busy and listen to people and have those conversations and make sure we're engaging not just in september and october of the election year. >> so, go back to part of your answer from before you were talking about paying rent, buying groceries. every day stuff. kitchen table stuff. i raise that in contrast to what our buddy congress member rankin said in response to the doge committee. this sort of made up farcical to make up bureaucracy to get rid of bureaucracy. the government belongs to the people, not the billionaire oligarchs.

when folks out there hear of waste and fraud and abuse, what do you think? do you think the country is focused on waste, fraud and an because or focused on paying the rent and gas in the tank? that's what undid this presidential bid. in combination with cultural issues with transgender rights and critical race theory and race-related issues that infused the elements in a way that became toxic for democrats that cleaved off part of the base. is it waste, fraud and abuse and corruption or i know what it costs to put a loaf bread on the table to make a sandwich for your kids. let's talk about that. >> when you look at a majority of americans, especially given

the results of this election, this was a change election. when they think of waste, fraud and abuse, they are looking at government not working for me. the wealth is concentrated in the top 1% who have more wealth than the bottom 90% of americans than the entire middle class of america. i still can't pay my rent and buy groceries and pay gas and, you know, take care of things with my paycheck. that was the referendum on the ballot. you know, vice president harris ran a great campaign. it was virtually impossible for her to distance herself from the biden administration. people basically when i spent the last three weeks of my campaign calling undecided voters and what i heard over and over and over again was that my life was better four years ago than it is today. you can't just meet that by

saying, but, you know, this is the reason why inflation is up. this is the reason why cost of housing is up and place blame on the previous administration. they don't care. they just want it to get better. that's really what this election was about and, you know, basically, they might not agree with everything coming out of president-elect trump's mouth, but they have a belief that listen, what happened these last four years didn't work for me. i'm going to give this guy a try. >> what is the strategy for the house democrats along those lines? i think if you talk -- you are right. talking to people and they say it was better before. okay, it was better before. i don't think they heard enough about how it will get -- i think it's not just the last 105 days before the election. there was a whole year and a half and two years where, frankly, democrats across the board were like, look, inflation is down and coming down. record gdp growth.

fastest recovery. people were like, but the rent is still too damn high. it was more that than what vice president harris said. obviously, you are in the my majority. i do think if people -- if you want to distinguish yourself, you have to put forward some stuff. is there a housing bill you're going to take back up that didn't pass in the last congress? is there something you will put forward on price gouging to force the republicans' hands? if they n't come to the table t is the democrats putting forward the issues and not republicans. >> it is the most frustrating thing right now. we did put together policies. we did bring down the cost of prescription drugs. kamala harris did have a housing policy proposal to help people with mortgages and to build more affordable housing. the inflation reduction act.

all of those things we put in place, unfortunately has a time lag. what's probably most frustrating is the benefits, unless all of them get repealed immediately, which is probably on the docket, the benefits of those people will start to see them in their pockets, especially prescription drugs starting january of 2025. democrats have had policies. we will continue to fight to go after price gouging, et cetera. we're in the minority. we'll keep on working on what we'll do to keep on bringing down costs for the american people. >> congresswoman susie lee, you are great. we hope to have you back at the table to keep us abreast of what is going on in congress. tonight, former president bill clinton sits down with our jonathan art to discuss his new book. that starts tonight at 6:00 p.m.

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alicia, we talk about how we appreciate the candor from congresswoman lee. >> she came in strong. something i have been thinking about given the amount we have talked about the fact we knew project 2025 was the blueprint. we knew a lot of folks leading to project 2025 would ultimately end up in key roles in the administration where the number of people who went to the ballot box and who mailed in their ballot for donald trump because of all of the issues the congresswoman laid out and not because they support project 2025. some of those folks are going to be among those who are most impacted by the reality of the policies of project 2025 and i think it would almost be glib to see how it will all play out because it will be devastating

for folks who may not have fully understood what it was they were casting their vote for. >> yeah. i think that's very true. you know, my question is as all these narratives start to take place. right now, a lot of speculation, conjecture and true, trump has told what he continues to do. we already know on january 20th at 12:01 and 30 seconds after administered the oath of office, the series of executive orders will go down from the white house because while that is happening on the hill, the white house comes alive when the new administration is put in place and they immediately send the signal throughout the government what their intent is. this administration has made it very clear, especially on immigration issues their battle plan is to hit the ground running on day one. that's no longer rhetoric.

we are now seeing those pieces being put in place not just by the choices that still need to get confirmed, but pay attention to the executive orders because that's where you will see the first and most immediate impact on the american people and the congresswoman alluded to the fact that some of the things the biden administration has done will go away and other things that, you know, the biden administration has done won't come into effect until next january. if there's really good, guess who will take credit for that? >> just like he took credit for the economy president obama left him. the economy was good when donald trump took office. it was the first year and a half because it was obama's economy. then when some of the trump administration policies were implemented like the tariffs, frankly, that put a real strain on farmers throughout the country, especially farmers in nebraska and iowa farmers,

congress had to bailout the farmers. >> people forget they had to supplement the farmers. >> they had to supplement the farmers. >> socialism. oh, my god. >> right? it's -- honestly -- let me just save my breath because we got a long four years. >> we do. we got a short one coming up right here with our friend velshi vul.ali velshi. we hope you stick around. we'll be joining him at the top of the hour and he has the latest installment of the banned book club. that starts at 10:00 a.m. that starts at 10:00 a.m. eastern he (high pitched sound) (high pitched sound)

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we'll hope you join us tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. eastern. sarah mcbride is going to be our special guest. the first transgender person elected to congress. we discuss her plans for the state and country. follow us on social media and reminder, we are now on blue sky. give us a follow there, too. velshi continues our coverage. good morning, ali. good morning to you. my dry cleaner did yeoman work. i have the shirt and jacket from last saturday, but the tie, because i got up and watched michael. he has a solid tie. i won't get in trouble for this. >> you look good, baby. >> i like it, ali.