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we are getting a better understanding of president trump's game plan for a second term. a playbook that seems focused on revenge and pushing the country to the right. new reporting from the washington post suggests special counsel jack smith's entire team could be on the chopping block. as trump tries to squash all of the criminal investigations against him. and after trump's first charge for attorney general, matt gaetz, went down in flames, he has picked yet another florida lawyer with a long history of defending trump regardless of

the allegations against him. trump's picks for other policy positions are linked to the infamous project 2025, and agenda so extreme that trump, the candidate, tried to distance himself from it. we will have all of the latest on all of it, including a late breaking cabinet pick tonight. joining me now to talk about it all is congresswoman marilyn strickland, democrat of washington. president-elect trump released a slew of picks for his second term team in the past days, and breaking news this afternoon, trump announced he is tapping brooke rollins to leave the agricultural department. rollins has been in charge of the america first policy institute, a conservative think tank that promotes the trump agenda. trump is also bringing back russell vought , returning for a second go round as head of the office of management and budget. vought was a key author of

2025, the right-wing blueprint for trump's next term that trump himself has claimed he has nothing to do with. congresswoman, what is your overall sense about trump's perspective administration as it takes shape? >> thanks for having me on, reverend. if you look at the parade of nominees, in every position, there is a venn diagram that starts to form. they are either question on their qualifications, they are people who have been accused of sexual assault, they have been hosts on fox news. but the center of that venn diagram where it intersects its fealty to trump. and you know this. he is using this administration to deal with his personal grievances, to get revenge, and to really implement projects 2025, which is an attempt to undermine democracy, take away our rights. and he has been very open about this from day one.

but you see it coming to life now. >> now, the washington post reports that trump is planning to fire the entire team working with special counsel jack smith, who has been investigating trump's role in january 6th and his handling of classified documents. he also intends to use the justice department to investigate alleged fraud during the 2020 election, which he lost. trump seems to be signaling very clearly that when we talk about retribution on the campaign trail and he kept talking about that, he was very serious, it seems. how concerned are you about this? >> we are very concerned about this. you know, firing jack smith and his entire team is a sickly trump's stay out of jail card. and you think about the fact that he is trying to relitigate the 2020 presidential election, which he clearly lost, which was certified by every single

secretary of state, both red states and blue states. so it is another example of how this is about revenge. when we take an oath of office, we take it to uphold the constitution and to protect our country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. he has no regard for that. he has no respect for the rule of law. and you can tell by who he is appointing and who he wants to nominate for these positions. >> now, getting back to the cabinet, with matt gaetz no longer in contention for attorney general, trump has named pam bondi, the latest pick for the position. she is a former attorney general of florida, a 2020 election denier, and was a legal adviser to former president trump's during his first impeachment. so far the reception among senate republicans has been more enthusiastic than it was for gaetz, suggesting a greater likelihood that she could be confirmed. how do you feel about trump's new selection? >> so, when the bar was so low with matt gaetz, anything is going to be a step up. but i want to remind folks that

pam bondi was l experience. but she defended him during his first impeachment. she, again, is a trump loyalist. as we think about the role of the attorney general of the united states of america, you are there to be there. to apply of law. and you are there to be objective. she is yet another example of a listing to have fealty to trump not to the united states, and certainly not to the u.s. constitution. >> let's get to the defense secretary pick, since you are on the armed services committee. trump's selection of fox news host pete hegseth is almost as controversial as gaetz was. that is because of allegations of sexual assault , which he has denied. but also because of his lack of experience running a large organization like the pentagon, and the view he has expressed on women and gay in the

military. is this someone you are comfortable with in such a sensitive position? >> he has no business serving as secretary of defense. as you mentioned, reverend, this is a giant job. you are running the pentagon, you are in charge of all of our armed services. and as we think about the challenges that we face with recruiting, with retention, and what is happening around the world, we have to make sure that our armed forces represent the entire nation. we want to make sure we are treating people well who serve, that we are welcoming those who want to serve, who want to wear the uniform. in addition to that, this is a fox news host. these are people who have served or work for a news organization that is the least objective, and it makes you wonder, again, is he going to be able to even uphold the mission and what the department of defense is supposed to do? he should not be in this job. and again, the sexual assault allegations, there was a police

report they came out that he paid someone else. so as we look at this cabinet, i come back to that venn diagram. fox news employees, people who were dubiously qualified, and, again, fealty to trump. that is the middle of that venn diagram. >> before i let you go, i know we are out of time, but i have to bring this to you. it took trump until last night, last night to finally name just one black person on his cabinet. and i've been raising this issue. he did it late last night. former nfl quarterback and texas state representative scott turner has been picked to head the department of housing and urban development. and i've got some thoughts, which i will share later in the show, but i wonder what you make of this selection. >> i do not know this gentleman at all, but i say this. the housing crisis in the united states is something that should be top of mind for congress and for the new administration. so i will hold out and see what

he does. we want to make sure that we are addressing the housing crisis, because it is so important and affects the cost of living. but i also wonder, too, who is conspicuously missing from this list? where is senator tim scott? where is representative byron donalds? you have two people who are very, very loyal to trump, and he seems to have disrespected them and chose someone else. for me, the jury is out. let's hope he does well and let's hope he has plans and ideas on how to address the housing crisis, because it is weighing heavily on the minds of americans. >> like i said, later in the show, i am going to address my view of that, as well. thank you for being with us, washington state congresswoman strickland. let's turn now to the future of the democratic party. several prominent party members have thrown their hat into the ring to be the next chair of the necrotic national committee. joining me now is one of them, former maryland governor and more mayor martin o'malley, who is currently the commissioner on

the social security administration. martin, good to see you. let's start with the situation -- >> reverend, if i could, i am here in my personal capacity as a candidate for chair of the dnc and not as the commissioner of social security. back to you. >> duly noted. let's deal with the situation democrats find themselves in heading into next year. when they will be out of the white house and in the minority and both the house and the senate. should democrats be looking for ways to resist the incoming administration? or searching for opportunities for bipartisan compromise? >> well, when it comes to our principles as a party, there can be no compromise. we believe in the dignity of every person. we believe in the common good that we share. we believe that voting rights should be protected and not undermined. but i am sure when it comes to

the core issues of what our party is all about, which is those kitchen table issues, better jobs, better opportunities, better future for our kids, i am sure hakeem jeffries, leader jeffries, and leader schumer will look for opportunities to do what's right for families all across america, who are suffering, who are worried, who are fearful of the big challenges they face every day because of the high cost of living. >> i remember back in 92, when i was much younger, there was the battle with, it brought in the dlc democratic leadership conference against the rainbow coalition with reverend jesse jackson, one of my mentors, some of the democrats in congress have cast the results as voters rejection of identity politics associated with the party, as opposed to economic populism associated with trump.

though i felt then, in 92, that there was a lot of economic populism on the radio side. but what are your thoughts on that, as the party reassesses its message? because i think sometimes what they call identity politics is reacting, when you see george floyd happen. we did not plan that, we responded to that. when you see attacks in florida, we didn't plan that, we reacted to it. how do you deal with dealing with one side against the other? is there a synthesis that could come to bring everyone together in the process? >> i believe, reverend, that the change we need to win is actually a return to our true self. in other words, yes, we need to be firm. and we need to be uncompromising, that we believe in the dignity of every person. black people, white people,

transgender people, gay people. we believe in the dignity of every person, but we need to be about holding an economy that works for all of us. when our candidates, and look, i've been on the phone a lot talking to state arty chairs, and dnc members, and when i talk with them, what i'm looking for and what i'm seeing is that in some places where we competed and did well, it was because our candidates focused on those kitchen table issues. we focused on the kitchen table issues that allowed people to get their kids a better life. the senate seats we flipped in arizona are where they are held, in states that donald trump won. arizona, michigan, nevada, wisconsin. i was talking to the chair of the pennsylvania party, why great disappointment at the federal level, across the legislative seats, we held our own. did not lose anything. and then missouri, where republican candidates won, the people marched to the polls and

voted for reproductive freedom, increasing the minimum wage, paid sick leave. i mean, these are the issues that people care about. and as a party, if we cannot become the party of an alternative fear, there party is the party of fear. ours is the party that says there is nothing to fear but fear itself. we are about hope, we are about an economy that works for all. and when we do that is democrats, as we watch the thing that he is going to break, prescription drug costs. when those things break, the american people need to know that we have the back. >> staying with the democrats vision for the future, after a national loss like this, what do you see as the role of party chair? a behind-the-scenes fundraiser, or someone steering in the direction of the party? >> well, look, we have leaders in the senate. we have leaders

in the house. hakeem jeffries, leader schumer, and of course, governors all across the country. this party knows what it its policy true north is, and that is to advance the interests, the kitchen table interests of americans all across our country. but the role of the party chair needs to be an operational leader. someone with experience in chairing national committees, which i've done as chair of the democratic governors association for three years in a row, where we won back some red states, including kentucky and others. and somebody that can also bring this party together to raise the money, the resources we need, and advance the message at a full-court press. so that when donald trump does things that harm the economic interests of working people all across america, we are there. and let me add one other thing, reverend, we need to get back into the business of doing area that is protecting voting

rights. there's a reason why we had a lower turnout. some people say it was because our voters chose the couch over this contest. i believe that a big heart of it was the fact that we have not done the job we need to do as a national party to protect voting rights, not only in swing states, but in every state. look at what stacey abrams has done in georgia and other states, that should not be the exception. that should be the mission of the democratic party. the john lewis voting rights advancement act. and they are part and parcel of building an economy that works for all of us. because our economy is not money, it's people. it's the american people. >> i know you are here in your personal capacity, as you stated, but social security is an extremely important topic to millions of americans. and while president-elect trump has insisted he has no interest in messing with social security, many around him have been talking about making drastic cuts to government. elon musk,

who will be one of the co-heads of trump's department of government efficiency, has spoken about eliminating trillions of dollars from the budget, which is virtually impossible without targeting entitlement programs. are you worried about the future of social security under a second trump administration? and what should democrats be doing about it? >> yes, i'm extremely concerned. the cuts in the republican congress have now reduced social security staffing to a 50 year low. what's make one thing very clear. i've learned a lot about social security in the last year that i have served their at the presidents request. and social security is a pay-as- you-go program. in fact, on the social security, it does not add a penny to the national debt. because americans have already paid for it, those that are

working, and then the benefits are paid out. but there is a very serious worry on the horizon, because donald trump's policies that he proposed in the campaign would actually greatly reduce the fiscal health of social security , and further, there is a lot of talk among people around him about all sorts of gimmicks. my great fear is that the trust fund will be turned into a coin bank. we need to protect social security. 80% of americans want it to be strengthened, and actually improved. and there are ways we can do that. this issure that this administration is going to be in the business of strengthening and protecting social security. but depending on social

security, we are the party that defense social security. >> turning it into a bank, that's a quote. former governor martin o'malley, candidate for the chair of the democratic national committee. thank you for being with us. and tomorrow on politics nation, we will have ken martin, the chair of the minnesota democratic party, who is also vying to become chairman of the party. coming up, president-elect trump creates one black job, and is not nearly enough. the details next.

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donald trump spent months during the campaign trying to woo black voters with golden sneakers and a scowling mug shot. but it took him 2 1/2 weeks after winning the election to finally name an african-

american to his cabinet, late last night. now i wish former nfl quarterback scott turner well, should he be confirmed as hud secretary, because the agency services are vitally important. but i also find it a little odd that this seems to be the only cabinet position trump seems comfortable with giving to a black person. after all, ben carson held the job in the first trump term. it is also as if he thinks public housing is the only topic african-americans know anything about. this can't be what black republicans supporting him, like senator tim scott and congressman byron donalds spent so much time campaigning for. could it? we had representative donald's on the program over the summer, and when he wasn't claiming blacks were better off under jim crow, he was saying trump would usher in a new era of

economic opportunity for african-americans. so where are the black secretaries of commerce? and the treasury? in my career as an activist, i pushed for real representation, and not mere tokenism. i have always argued that for african-americans to have full justice and equality, they must be in the room where important decisions are made. whether it is the c suite or the oval office. democrats aren't perfect, but they have taken this cause seriously. they have put a black person at the top of the presidential ticket three times. they elected hakeem jeffries, house minority leader, and they have appointed african-americans to all kinds of cabinet positions. including attorney general, defense secretary, and head of epa, just to name a few. so while i applaud the work at

hud, and i applaud the president-elect for finally creating this one black job, i would also say to him that if he truly meant any thing he was saying during the campaign to black americans, this single selection is not nearly enough. he can do more, and we must demand that he do more. we will be right back.

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welcome back to politics nation. the revolving door of the second trump administration is already spending. a flurry of new cabinet picks have been announced, and at least one trump selection has dropped out before the nomination process is even underway. our panel is here to discuss this. former florida gop congressman and msnbc political analyst david jolly, and former new york congressman joe crowley, who served as chairman of the house them a credit caucus. david, matt gaetz didn't even

last a full scary movie as trump's pick for attorney general. the former florida congressman withdrew his name for consideration thursday as the house ethics committee debated whether or not to release findings from the investigation in two sexual misconduct allegations. gaetz is also saying he won't be returning to congress. what do you believe ultimately did him in? >> he did not have the votes. he did not have the support of republican senators sufficient to er the finish line. and in washington he had no friends, in a time he needed friends the most, he did not have any. this is an embarrassment not just for matt gaetz, but from donald trump who went all in, jd vance pushing for matt gaetz, and clearly donald trump and matt gaetz don't have the currency with the lame-duck resident elect that they thought they had. or the currency with the senate. so now we interrupt with pam

bondi, and i think the good things about matt gaetz being out of politics is he is out of politics, but it also removes the question of he did not have the executive experience to run the department and he had the sexual misconduct allegations. we don't have those distractions with pam bondi, so now the senate can get right of the conversation about what are her views of the department of justice? is it an wanted to be, it is it a department that now goes after an enemies list, but recommends pardons of j6 offenders? is it a department because after the media? those are all the things that donald trump wants in his attorney general. then we get a fast forward to the conversation with pam bondi. we would've had too many distractions with matt gaetz to maybe have that very important, substantive conversation. >> more of trump's outrageous picks, should the party be focused on other issues?

>> reverend, i think it's actually good for the country, not just immigrants. actually, i think it's good for republicans that this guy did not get in with the department of justice. so, in the long run, when you're in a pool of very, very tiny people, anyone of average height is going to stand out like a giant right now. and i think that's what happened with pam bondi, as well. i think the democrats should continue to even look at her record, where she stood in terms of calling the 2020 election unfair and stolen. that is just one aspect. clearly anyone who wants a position within the trump administration needs to have total loyalty. unadulterated loyalty to him. the notion or idea that somehow matt gaetz was an unfair distraction to the former president, really simply is not true. it was totally fair. any comment, any observation about any of these candidates is fair game. >> david, you mentioned florida

attorney general pam bondi, and so did joe. she is now the new pick for ag. keeping the sunshine state at the center of the political world, governor ron desantis also has a senate seat to dole out with marco rubio tapped for secretary of state, with laura trump saying she would be honored to serve as our resident florida man. what do you think happens with the senate? >> first, on behalf of the state of florida, let me apologize for being so relevant to our national politics right now. look, the question about should marco rubio be confirmed for secretary of state, and who does ron desantis appoint? it really comes down to what ron desantis sees as his future in politics. he is a lame-duck governor, out in 26. does he want to secure a senate seat for himself? because if so, he had said to his chief of staff, perhaps like charlie crist did about 10 years ago, to his chief of

staff, and effort that failed on behalf of charlie crist. or does he intend to run for president, so he needs to placate the president and donald trump, and indeed, appoint laura trump? florida has only had one female senator in its history, so the opportunity for representation here is good. there's actually a sitting congresswoman from orlando, laura lee, who served with ron desantis and endorsed ron desantis over donald trump area she could be an appointment. the attorney general, ashley moody, could be an appointment. it will be a very conservative republican. the question is, is it someone holding a place for ron desantis? or is ron desantis truly giving that seat away to placate donald trump so that he, indeed, can run using the trump faction in 2028. big decision for the governor. >> joe, your home state of new york and neighboring new jersey both swung double digits for trump. two of the biggest turnarounds this election cycle. that has democrats doing a lot of soul-searching. but political trends can be fleeting. when you lost your seat to alexandria ocasio-cortez, it looks like the state might be

turning to the left. how would you advise your party to think about the election results we just saw? >> i think that's a great point. first of all, we have to look at the north and south. there was a move towards trump, not just nationally, not just new york and new jersey. we took three seats in congress that republicans held, and if you include four seats this cycle. what i do think is important to note, after my loss in 2018, folks like bernie sanders said it was a good thing for the country. and you saw kamala harris, and particular, move sharply to the left. the issue of defined ice started in my campaign. she adopted that in 2019. it was really difficult for her to come back towards the middle when she was running for president. >> i'm out of time, but david, your answer to the same question, i'd be very anxious to hear.

>> i don't think the democrats need to over correct too much. this was a race within the margin of error. the values of democrats are right. people who woke up the day after the election and saw that donald trump won were not upset because they realized they were wrong. they were upset because they knew they were right and they came up short. they will get a chance again in 26 and 28. >> it was not a landslide, by any measure. thank you, former representatives david jolly and joe crowley. coming up, faith leaders in columbus, ohio are coming together and taking a stand after a neo-nazi march that shook their city. that is after the break. and some exciting news. starting next month you can listen to every episode of politics nation as a podcast for free. scan the qr code on your screen to follow now and listen to the trailer, and then check back saturday, december 7th to listen to the first show, and if you want to listen to this

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profanities and waving flags with swastikas in a downtown street. the white house condemned the march. president biden calling it, quote, a sickening display. joining me now are the reverend victor davis of columbus trinity baptist church, and here on the set is the ceo of the jewish council for public affairs. thank you both for joining me. let me start with reverend davis. this happened in your hometown in columbus, ohio. another local reverend that he received frantic calls from members of his congregation wha and how it shook the community. >> once again, racism raised its ugly head in columbus last saturday. a group of neo-nazi's that were masked walked onto the

busy streets of our community in artistic district in our community of a diverse population. many businesses and small shops and art galleries are located in that area. >> now, amy, three years ago a jury found in virginia a group of white nationalists who organized the deadly unite the right rally in charlottesville, virginia liable for engaging in a conspiracy ahead of the violent demonstration resulting in a suit of more than $25 million. you are part of this legal and civil litigation who backed the plaintiffs in the lawsuit and won. do you see similarities with what happened last weekend in columbus, and how concerned are you about more of these rallies popping up throughout the country? we have seen them even in amsterdam, these vicious attacks of anti-semitism. how concerned are you?

>> i'm very concerned. because we know that we have seen the normalization of this violent extremism over the last decade. it started largely in 2016 and we have seen the cycle continue , from charlottesville to pittsburgh, to el paso, to buffalo, attacks that were fueled by this very same racist, anti-semitic, and xenophobic hate. mass shootings that target the jewish, latino, and black communities. we have also seen the uptake of direct marches intended to terrorize communities, to assert white power, to effectively recruit into these extremist groups. often times intended, again, to really normalized this extremism and to desensitize us to this sort of hate. so we need to be clear eyed about what is happening here, and as we see hate and extremism normalized in our politics on a national level, it inevitably leads to this sort of violent hate and extremism trickling down to communities across the country.

>> and in many ways, politically mainstreaming it. reverend davis, and response a group of black leaders and locals marched in a unity rally through columbus the day after the neo-nazi rally. can you speak to how this countered the hate the city witnessed the day before? >> yes, the day after, led by our local chapter of black men, several men and a few pastors gathered on that sunday to make a public display against the neo-nazi's march, and to let them know, led by black men, that we were leading the effort not to allow this kind of display of hate to take root in our community. >> amy, a man in florida was arrested this past halloween on suspicion of weapons violations , and now it was revealed that he had a list of target that included jewish democratic congressman jared moscowitz, as well as locations characterized

as draws for black people, including synagogue, jewish cemetery, jewish sandwich shop, and schools that were described as derogatory terms for black people, according to the court filings. from your perspective, is the federal government doing enough to stop these hate crimes, to protect black and jewish people? >> look, in all of these incidents, whether it is the margin columbus, whether it is this incident in florida that you are describing, we see how deeply interconnected hate is. in all of these incidents, these extremists targeted the jewish community and the black community. we are seeing in particular at this moment, everett stupidity jewish and black community against each other by national and political leaders, including the incoming president. so we need to understand that our safety and our futures are so inextricably linked. you need to look no further than the uptick in white supremacist

and anti-semitic incidents to understand that. it requires a whole government approach to counter this. the biden harris administration put forward a national strategy to counter anti-semitism that leans into this whole of government approach that advances the recognition that we will counter anti-semitism not specifically by countering anti-semitism, but by building cross community solidarity and recognizing that anti-semitism and all forms of hate are a direct threat to our democracy, and we need to make sure that as we look towards the trumpet administration that policies like that, whole government and whole society approaches continue to move forward, because it's the only way to stop this vicious cycle. >> reverend davis, as we have seen fights for decades around racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, islamophobia, we are seeing an increase now. one of the reasons we are having a big national rally january 20th in washington

while president trump is being given the oath of office, we will be on the other side of washington, not trying to interfere with the inauguration, but to take an oath to keep dr. king's dream alive, who always talked about fighting against all the evils of racism and anti-semitism. do you see this concern growing among black clergy around the country, of fighting for our own preservation, but linking it with others who are targeted? we may disagree on some issues, but we have to stand together against the bias. >> i see it growing amongst pastors across the country, and if it isn't, it should. because the movements and the accomplishments that we have made as it relates to racism in this community has always started at the church. reverend, your part of our history, and you got your start in the church. reverend jesse jackson got his start. and we all know dr. king

pastored a baptist church and got started. often times, if the church doesn't speak out, no one speaks out. so of course, we join our jewish brothers and sisters to stand against any kind of racism and hatred that is perpetuated here in the united states. it is a sad day, it is unfortunate, when many of us thought we would live through this history. here we are, repeating history all over again. >> amy, how important is it for all of us to stand together? you and i both spoke at a synagogue in white plains last friday, it was hundreds of people that came out. and i said we can disagree on things. i don't like what's going on at all in gaza, but that does not make me anti-semitic, because support what's going on in terms of fighting anti-semitism. many in the jewish community may disagree with me on the issue. it does not make them racist if we are standing together against racism, as some have done throughout the civil rights movement. saying we are standing against

islamophobia and homophobia. how important is it for us to disagree, maybe, but not be disagreeable and stand together? >> it's crucial. particularly over the last 14 months since october 7, we have seen the most extreme voices on the far right and are left explain what's going on in israel and gaza to pick communities against one another. to say that my safety as a jewish woman is somehow at odds with yours as a black man, or anyone else's. when, in fact, the cycle of extremism that we are talking about illustrates how deeply interconnected they are. so we need to do everything in our power now, going into the trump administration at a time when we know democracy is under threat. hate and extremism might rise as we have seen it do in 2016, at the beginning of the first trumpet administration. and dehumanizing dangerous policies are coming down the pike. we need to do everything in our power to keep our pro-democracy anti-hate coalitions together now. that means staying at the table across lines of disagreement on

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