that's when the investigation happened. >> just so we all are clear, eric trump was on fox news, he said that his father has been incredibly clear, you do not do that under any circumstances, and believe me, there will be repercussions if somebody was, i've never seen that side of him meaning boris, i've known him for a long time and i certainly hope the reporting is false. i can tell you if it's true, the person will no longer be around. all right, catherine christian, sarah matthews, thank you for joining us. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york, happy tuesday. in stocking his cabinet, donald trump is proving that birds of a feather flock together, facing

accusations of sexual assault or sexual misconduct from at least 18 women has chosen multiple nominees facing allegations of misconduct themselves. there is donald trump's nominee for defense secretary, fox news host pete hegseth, who says he was fully cleared of sexual assault allegations, a claim repeated by his supporters. here is oklahoma senator markwayne mullin over the weekend. >> he wasn't charged, he wasn't even kind of charged in this. there was no crime committed. the police dropped everything. what is unfortunate in today's world, you can be accused of anything and then especially if it is something like this, you're automatically assumed to be guilty. if you read the police report from cover to cover, which i have, and i know every reporter has too, it is clear there was nothing there. it was clear that there was no crime committed. and so that doesn't prevent pete from moving forward in this. >> as friend of this show, barbara mcquade notes, the

absence of charges is not the same as being cleared. a term that suggests a finding of actual innocence. and "the washington post" sums it up like this, the allegation was investigated by local authorities who didn't press charges. the accuser later threatened legal action, hegseth paid her and she signed a nondisclosure agreement, according to his attorney. hegseth's nomination comes, though, after years of scrutiny for the department of defense for failing to take the problem of sexual assault in the military seriously enough. and then there is robert f. kennedy jr., he of course has been tapped to lead the department of health and human services. "wall street journal" on him reports this, quote, senators from both parties said they expect kennedy will face questions of alleged incidents from years ago that recently have drawn attention. kennedy has been accused of sexual assault in the late '90s by a woman who is willing to testify. kennedy said he is not a church

boy, that is one way to put it, according to "the wall street journal," kennedy's accuser says this, that she was 23 years old when she began working as an intern at the law clinic kennedy helped lead and as a baby-sitter on the weekends for his family while living with them. she recalled that one day while other members of the family were not home, kennedy came up behind her in a pantry, he put his hands on her hips and slid them up to the side of her breasts. she froze. a worker at the house came in and interrupted the scene, giving her the chance to exit, end quote. that was just one of many sexual advances kennedy made according to cooney. kennedy said he has no memory of that incident and apologized to cooney over the summer by text, a message that cooney says was disingenuous. even one of the few women who has been nominated to trump's cabinet, she's named linda mcmahon, she's been tapped to lead the department of

education, is herself embroiled in scandal. on her, "the washington post" reports this, that mcmahon faces a lawsuit from five plaintiffs who helped set up wwe events as teenagers. they allege that linda mcmahon and her husband vince mcmahon, the wwe co-founder, knew that the then teens were being sexually abused by high ranking wwe employees. an attorney for mcmahon says that the lawsuit is baseless. all of this is to say nothing of the man trump had to have be the country's chief law enforcement officer. we are, of course, talking about matt gaetz, now of cameo fame. even though he denied all wrongdoing, gaetz withdrew his nomination for attorney general more than an hour before news broke that a woman had two sexual encounters with matt gaetz when she was 17.

an intrepid reporting "the new york times" revealed the justice department had uncovered a web of payments to people who participated in what the times describes as, quote, drug-fueled sex parties and including women who say he hired them for sex. matt gaetz took himself out of the running, but his nomination by trump is clearly part of a pattern as elise hogue writes in the bulwark today as part of a backlash to the me too movement that was a defining moment in the first trump term. quote, in that light the charges against hegseth and his ilk are a feature, not a bug, to this president looking to put the women who disrupted his first term in their place. these nominations, trump's message is abundantly clear, women are meant to be scared and men are meant to pick a side. that's where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends, former chairman of the rnc, now co-host of msnbc's "the weekend," michael steele is here. plus former democratic senator and msnbc political analyst

claire mccaskill is back. and with me at the table, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. vaughn, serious question, are they trying to populate the cabinet with men accused of sexual misconduct? >> when you're looking at the individuals who are being tapped for these roles here, you're seeing individuals that fit that profile. and i think that it is the ultimate american question in 2024 is just how much are americans willing to ignore to justify the means to which people believe that these individuals are conveyor belts for the policies and the types of governance they want. and if people view rfk and the stories and the allegations that have been levied against him and they acknowledge that that was robert f. kennedy jr.'s past and that that is who the man is, but if at the same time they also believe he's going to go in there and fundamentally change fda and the cdc, which one is more important to you? and i think americans by and

large, by selecting donald trump, and by extension people like rfk jr. or pete hegseth or matt gaetz, i think they made that decision clear this month. >> well, i guess, let me just play devil's advocate here. i guess we can debate who is the devil's advocate here, but if you win, and i think in trump's view winning the popular vote is probably as meaningful to him, right, as his electoral victory, why abandon the first term brand of the best people and hire -- by any objective, hire some of the worst people? >> that's a good question. i think when you look at the justification of what pete hegseth can bring to the table, you have somebody here who fits a profile for donald trump who plays that role of somebody who is going on tv, who can

effectuate the idea of what masculinity and what strength in a military general should look like. he tried to make that pitch for the likes of james mattis back eight years ago, remember, after he was elected. this go around, though, i think you see him turning to people like mehmet oz, people that have pedigree in their tv history here and as a means that i think overcomes perhaps what may be their resume deficits. that's also why i think in the last few minutes we have the memorandum of understanding that was just signed by the trump administration with the gsa in which they explicitly say that they're going to bypass the government and the fbi background checks because i think to a great extent, i think it is clearly less of a priority than the other bona fides and the other presentation and the other qualities that donald trump believes these individuals bring to his administration. >> i was vetted when i worked in the white house and the reason you're investigated isn't to throw -- cast anyone out, it is

to make sure you're not a target for blackmail, by a foreign government. is there a process that will replace the background investigation? >> potentially when they take over the fbi, right? chris wray is supposed to -- his ten-year term ends in 2027. chris wray is expecting to be fired or step aside under the assumption he's going to be fired and at that point you put in somebody like kash patel that could be confirmed and at that point fbi under donald trump do those background checks that they are choosing not to go forward with now. i think that's why tulsi gabbard may run into issues with republicans on capitol hill, confirming her out of questions of what may be in her fbi background checks. and so i think that this is that moment here where i think the trump administration is going to face, i think, questions on capitol hill in much the way matt gaetz did, but are people like mitch mcconnell, murkowski,

collins, are they going to stand up and act as the fbi almost to a certain extent in telling the american public or making the demands there is a greater sense of transparency outside of reporting and understandings that come out of police reports like in monterey, california, that only came after donald trump nominated pete hegseth to take over the pentagon. >> michael steele, it is a tv show, he's casting a tv show. we should just call it what it is. the -- what has come under roost is nine years of trump maligning institutions like the fbi, which is frankly a right-leaning workforce and in my time in government at least as the deep state. and it is not about embarrassing matt gaetz. it is not about digging up a monterey -- the reporters can do that. it is about making sure these people don't have stuff for which they can be blackmailed by an american adversaries. when you take an oath as a commissioned officer, the executive branch of the

government, you're pledging your loyalty to the constitution. why would trump want to hijack that process? >> they pledge loyalty to him. constitution be damned. this isn't about the constitution. they're signing the agreement telling you, we're not using the fbi, we don't want to do background checks. quite frankly, doesn't really matter. i mean, the stuff that is coming out, i mean, blackmail, talk -- what else could i blackmail you with other than a 17-year-old, you know, hanging out with a 17-year-old girl. i mean, there is no shame here. there is no fear or concern by trump or anyone in his administration that the sort of crap load of sexual predators and predation that is being put out here right now is disqualifying. i don't hear a human cry from the u.s. senate republicans about the kind of people he's putting up. they're trying to find peace with it. they're trying to piecemeal

conversations around it. they're trying to make excuses for it. and, yeah, matt gaetz took one for the team, but hello, hegseth, tulsi gabbard, rfk jr., ramaswamy and, you know, elon musk, come on. i mean, there is no seriousness here about concern about what our adversaries are going to find on any of these folks. i don't know what more they can tell us. the public doesn't seem to be outraged by it. i don't hear people writing their, you know, calling in and writing and saying what is donald trump doing, we didn't vote for this, this is exactly what they voted for. he knew it, he told them this is what they were going to deliver. when you deconstruct theed ed administrative state, who you going do it? not with mattis or cheney or kenzing kinzinger, you're going to do it

with these kind of individuals. people are bemoaning the fbi report but it doesn't surprise me in the least. there is nothing you can do about it because i'm the president, i have absolute power, and if you mess around, you'll find out because everything from now on is going to be an official act of my government. the supreme court told me so, and therefore it will be. that's our new reality. so now the question is how do we report on it, how do we as a country adjust to it, if at all, or do we just roll over and let it happen? so, that's how i see it. >> what happens next? >> what happens next is that more of this will come, kash patel will assume the perch donald trump wants him to have at fbi or wherever he wants him to be, and they will go and summarily begin to round up people in this country. the governor of texas has already offered up 1400 square

miles of space, nicolle, to put concentration camps in place. are we serious right now? sends a letter, saying, hey, come here, and you have all the land you want to build whatever you want so you can round people up and detain them here until you decide, mr. president, what you want to do with them. and no one is saying a damn thing about it, because people voted for it. and that's the problem. i mean, is this what the price of gas is worth? is this what it costs to have lower egg prices? i don't want to, you know, question people's personal economies, we all have personal economies, but there are bigger issues here to be concerned about, and it is stunning that we set them all aside because we want to relive four years of donald trump because it was better then? oh, yeah, you know, call around asking for toilet paper, trying

to find toilet paper, that was better. watching grandma get sick and die, oh, yeah, that was better because of covid. i mean, so, what -- i don't understand what people expect to happen next, nicolle. what do you think is coming? we have opened up the gates here. the supreme court has given him absolute power. he's going to put in place people who don't give a damn about running the government, they just want to run it down. it doesn't matter to them whether the poor receive their benefits, the undereducated get the education, because we're going to eliminate the department of education. you know when people talk about block grants to the states, states rarely put the dollars where they need to go, particularly when there are no controls on them. so, look, the reality is being set up for us, people need to accept what it is, and figure out if you're going to bend over and let it happen or in some way going to stand up and say, you know what, this is not what we want because this is not who we are. we're not rounding up people whether they're here legally or

illegally and putting them in concentration camps to be processed out of the country, out of a bootlegged system that donald trump and kash patel and anyone else is going to make up. it is crazy. >> how does it end? >> well, it ends probably in the upcoming election cycle. i guess the voters at that point will decide, okay, maybe that's too much or that's too far. they made changes at the congressional and senatorial level. they start maybe making changes in their state governments so they can take more control back over the electoral system. at the end of the day, this is something that our friend and buddy eddy glaude talks about all the time, that we have control over this. we, the people, control this. we don't have to -- we don't have to go down this road. our fate in this country is not that bad that we would turn it over to a two-bit, you know, wanna-be dictator who is going to enrich himself, engorge

himself off of federal dollars and contracts. and relationships for his hotels and his properties and continue to cozy up to our adversaries to mimic their illiberal bad behavior because he wants to fit in. he's so insecure, he's so inept at being president that he has to follow someone else's lead and he has to pretend to be something else, he can't be an american president, he has to be a putin president. he has to be an orban president and that's not what america is about. so, we have to decide as a country if this is really what is -- how it ends. yes, i said ends. because it doesn't get better when you open up this pandora's box of hell and expect people to sort of realize an american dream that is slowly being ripped away from them because donald trump has decided, well,

we don't like your last name and you shouldn't be here. >> claire mccaskill? >> well, there is a lot, you know, following michael at this moment is tough. first, i think we all have to get -- we have to get comfortable with the fact that character doesn't matter to donald trump. character does not matter. integrity and character, not something that he cares about on your resume. and the more he surrounds himself with people that mirror his character and integrity, if they are continually genuflecting to him. the issue is, does the senate have character? will the republican senators, will three or four or five of them stand up and go, wait a minute. and if that happens, what impact will that have? now, i will tell you i think this is the impact it will have. more nominees will not get confirmed, which just means the

number two positions at these agencies will become more and more important. the positions that can be put in place without confirmation. and i think that's where he'll put kash patel. i think that's where he'll put some of those folks who can't -- he did that with tom homan. he couldn't get confirmed last time and he's in charge. i saw where he just said he's going to put the mayor of denver in jail. if the mayor of denver doesn't go along with a military occupation of denver to root out anyone who may not have legal status at this point. so, you know, i think that's -- by the way, nicolle, let me say this, how does this end? here's what i want to implore everyone in two days before thanksgiving, as we all are looking for something to be grateful for at this important holiday that is all about family, we can't give up. i get it, the people want to turn it all off. i get it that this roller coaster of depression and anger

and frustration going back to depression and anger and frustration over what the people of america decided a few weeks ago is an easy coat to put on and drop close to you and just wear it. but, that is not what democracies are about. and there have been low points before in this democracy and that doesn't mean everyone turned it off. it meant they turned up the heat. and i think that's what needs to happen here. we have somebody who is nominated to be head of health and human services, who said just a few months ago that heroin made him a better student. i mean, forget about the sex stuff. he said heroin made him a better student. now, take that in isolation, and circulate that to parents of america whose kids are going to school. circulate that to parents of america who are fighting alongside their loved ones an

addiction, substance abuse problem. it is crazy. and he has not taken that back. he's not said he doesn't really mean it. he basically said, yeah, heroin turned bad for me after a while, but, man, it made me top of my class. that's rfk jr. so, we are at a point now that you do not have the choice of turning it all off. you've got to stay engaged. and i do think they're going to make serious mistakes of overplaying their hand. especially as long as elon musk is the one pulling the strings and, believe me, he's working very hard to pull every string he can right now. >> you guys are feeling me out. i love this. i keep having this image of this scene from jerry maguire where cuba gooding is running tom cruise down and tom cruise walks out exasperated and cuba gooding goes, we were just starting to communicate, i think this is -- i think this is the beginning of the beginning or maybe the end of the beginning, but definitely

not the beginning of the end. i need all you to stick around. hit pause. we'll tell you about another deeply reported story, another pay for play grip that led to trump on trump political dark arts, political -- we used to call it circular firing squad. trump insider accused of trying to make a whole lot of dough by selling access to his boss, the president-elect. trump promised on day one he will make america a tariff nation and it won't cost americans anything. late night threat shows he intends to make good on his promise, why experts warn the only message it is sending is that he doesn't care about how much things cost for american families. and later in the broadcast, his other campaign promise coming into focus, using his department of justice as a tool for his revenge and retribution tour. all those stories and much more when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break.

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thou shall not profit off donald trump. it is a rule that everyone in trump's orbit is being made aware of today. it appears that a key adviser of the president-elect may have broken that commitment. "the new york times" today is reporting that boris epshteyn who played a key role since the election and before in helping donald trump staff his new white house and make cabinet selections has been the subject of an internal review by trump's own transition team into

allegations that boris epshteyn has been seeking money from those interested in joining donald trump's cabinet, including scott bessent who trump nominated to be his treasury secretary last week. according to that review, epshteyn met with bessent in february when it was widely known he was interested in the treasury post and proposed 30,000 to $40,000 a month to promote mr. bessent around mar-a-lago. mr. trump's estate in florida. bessent declined, according to the times reporting, he then called epshteyn on november 14th to see whether he was criticizing bessent to people around trump. the review said epshteyn told bessent it was, quote, too late to hire him and that he was boris epshteyn with an expletive swear word between the two names, boris and epshteyn. a week later -- this story -- a week later, scott bessent was nominated america's treasury

secretary, so we can assume he will likely be following trump to washington, but boris bleeping epshteyn's future in trump world appears to be in doubt. we're back with michael and claire and vaughn. what is clear is where there is a line. there is a line? trump and his kids are talking about the thread count and castle hotel in scotland and bilking the secret service, but the line is somewhere between that is maga ethical and boris epshteyn wanting a retainer to do pr for the cabinet picks -- tell me about this line that emerged and what they did to poor boris? >> i don't know if there is a line, though. boris isn't going anywhere. >> he's not -- >> boris is not going anywhere. and if boris does go somewhere, color me surprised. boris has been here for nine years in donald trump's orbit now and the transition says they did the review and they went and saw everybody's contracts and consulting agreements and there

is no indication that boris epshteyn is going anywhere. >> let me just lay out for our viewers the anatomy of a scolding then, because he's been scolded. they leaked the dirt on epshteyn to john sullivan, a very right wing journalist and they planted it on laura ingram, she is pretending to be outraged, maybe, with eric trump who pretends to be the same. >> eric, really quickly, though, report by john solomon today about boris epshteyn, an adviser to your father, long time adviser, internal investigation by the trump transition when they heard allegations from scott bessent and others that boris epshteyn was allegedly, we have not confirmed this, was trying to shake down people for access, for contracts, for money, and any comments on this tonight? >> i've known boris for years and i've never known him to be a good human being. so i that said, i will tell you my father has been incredibly clear, you do not, you do not do that and under any circumstance

and believe me there will be repercussions if somebody was. i've never seen that side of him. i've known him for a very long time and, you know, i certainly hope the reporting is false and i can also tell you if it is true, you know, the person will probably no longer be around. >> you can do it with a 17-year-old, but -- what is eric trump -- what he is mad about? i don't even understand the story? >> i think there is a lot of ethical questions that come from this already in the transition, don jr. and eric in saudi arabia a couple of months ago, launching a new hotel project and they have another hotel project in oman that is under way. in trump world, it is not a secret that people work out consultancy bills. there is an extent to which they had were working as foreign agents on behalf of other

countries over the last four years and there is people like boris epshteyn who are close to donald trump who are taking consultancy agreements to help boost the profiles of some potential trump allies and in this case, scott bessent was one of them, and i think that is where the question here for donald trump to answer is whether that's a bridge too far here or whether boris, who has been around for nine years now, who is overseeing all of his legal teams as somebody who he keeps in his fold, who are the questions of ethics look like? >> this is not about -- claire, to your point, heroin good, $30,000 a month for a billionaire to get good press in maga world press bad. explain? >> i think the only thing that is a question here is how much is boris made and how much will he kick back to trump and his kids? because clearly if trump was making money off of it, or if

his children were making money off of it, then it is green light city. that's a-okay. you can hawk bibles. you can start crypto. you can do all of this stuff, then just bonkers. but if somebody takes 40 grand a month and tries to promote somebody at mar-a-lago, well, that's an ethical line we can't cross. it is just crazy. >> it is amazing. it is it requires us to sort of hold two thoughts, like, vaughn's reporting about the fbi being cut out of the vetting process is of supreme importance to the united states national security and it is almost -- it is central as anything that has happened in the three weeks that trump -- it is just as riveting to cover them as a reality tv show that resembles survivor and

to see what they push out. they pushed this out themselves, they pushed a story out to john solomon, they leaked it to laura, to -- to watch them function and cast one of their own out for doing something that crossed a line that they trampled over so many times in nine years is just a marvel, claire. >> yeah, it is really -- it is silly. and i guess what they were trying to do is wrap him on the knuckles, saying, you know, this is the way we play in trump land. you don't make money off us, we're the only ones that get to make money off being president or running for president or on thprecipice of becoming president again. the trump family is the only one that gets to make money off that. nobody else gets to make money off that. that's what they seem to be saying. especially if nothing happens to this guy, if he remains in this tight inner circle, then basically that they did is they

leaked it to bring him to heel. not to turn him out to pasture. >> is that your theory? >> there is some individuals that would rather not have boris epshteyn be in this nucleus. i think that would be an accurate statement to say. >> you don't think he goes anywhere. >> i think boris has become a part in the last two years of this very small nucleus of people around donald trump that has been entrusted and donald trump keeps reliably turning to. i would be surprised if anything happens to boris. i don't expect him to go to the government. i don't think that was ever his intention, but i would be surprised if boris is no longer a part of this circle. >> no one i would rather have these conversations with than you guys. vaughn, thank you for your reporting and for starting us off. michael and claire, stick around. still ahead, donald trump ran for president and won. based on voters' frustrations about how much stuff costs. but today americans faced a very real possibility that stuff will cost more when trump is inaugurated. that story is next. when trump i

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announced one of his first acts as president will be imposing a 25% tariff on all goods that come into the united states from canada and mexico and a 10% tariff on all goods coming from china. the countries are america's three largest trading partners. he says it is a retaliation against what he says is the flood of fentanyl and migrants coming into the u.s. the people who will be most harmed are not the migrants or any criminals, it is every american family who will face soaring prices as a result of the tariffs. one analysis found that prices could go up by as much as $3,900 per household each year. some companies already preparing price hikes in anticipation of trump returning to the white house and imposing his tariffs. joining us at the table, nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans. explain -- just give me a basic

on why this is his reflexive sort of first strike at the economy. >> it is a tool he has, i think, and he thinks it works. and he really does think or he says that the other country pays these tariffs when we know that's just not true. the importer pays the tariffs. for example, for our viewers, if we're importing a bunch of tomatoes, which we do every day, those tomatoes, there will be a tax and that tax is paid for by the importer who passes the cost along to wholesalers and consumers. that's why this would raise prices for consumers. he has been very steadfast and consistent that he thinks that tariffs are the answer, even when historians and economists say no tariffs cause trade wars which can cause depressions. he thinks this is the beginning -- how he can reorder the world economy in favor of the united states. >> will it work? >> he did it in -- he's done this on china before and it

really hurt american farmers and taxpayers had to pay billions of dollars to bail out farmers. what happens is when one country puts tariffs on another country that country then turns around and puts tariffs back. >> retaliates. >> it retaliates. the united states sells a lot of stuff, soybeans, i'm thinking all kinds of electronics that we sell and construction equipment and things the united states sells abroad that then will become more expensive there. and then you start to see the wheels of global trade start to shift, supply chains start to snag, there are costs that have to be shared and passed along and that's why so many people find trade wars so dangerous. >> there is reporting that inflation is starting to come down, the thanksgiving dinner is coming down for the first time since trump left office. what, you know, sometimes with trump we get caught up in the shiny ball of what he's doing. what can he be actually doing? is it crisis creation so he can come in and solve it? >> what i think is interesting

is this drama about raising prices and potentially reversing progress on inflation makes the federal reserve's job harder, the federal reserve may be slower to lower interest rates, which trump would probably hate, but also hurts families and businesses as well. so there are a lot of different levers at the same time. he has been consistent he's going to do this. there are a lot of companies who have been renting warehouse space around these port facilities because they're already stockpiling goods. big company can do that because they have a lot of money they can put into resources, but if you're a small company or medium sized manufacturer in this country, you might not have a million dollars to be buying stuff up ahead of tariff s tari. maybe this is a negotiating ploy. there is a lot of uncertainty surrounding him. >> we're going to ask you to stick around.

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administrations create loopholes and exceptions, opening the door to lobbyists eager to deal. don't be surprised if the trump white house starts making assessments about companies and industries that play ball in ways the incoming president likes. buckle up. your thoughts. >> absolutely. absolutely. i mean, remember, this is the man who told, you know, the oil and gas industry, look, fellows, give me a billion dollars, i give you whatever you want. right? so, the next step from that is we're imposing these tariffs which, oh, okay, this is not going to affect the people of america because canada, mexico, and china are going to pay those tariffs. but then the ancillary business that is created around the respective industries that are hit with the tariffs, whether it is, you know, growing industry, the food processing industry, products, goods and services, whatever it is. and so absolutely, this is all

agrift. that's what boris epshteyn -- that's the game he's playing. you know? little quid, a little pro, little quo. everybody comes out okay. except the rest of us. because we're footing the bill, remember, america, the man put $8 trillion on the back of your children and grandchildren in four years. what do you think he's going to do now? his son-in-law walked out of the white house, right, out of his middle east connections, out of his saudi connections, with a $2 billion fund. where the hell did that come from? how does that happen? and now we're sitting here watching the gates opened wider as much as possible to suck as much cash out of the government, i mean, remember, this man charges the secret service to stay at his hotel and requires

us, the only hotel he's going to stay in, diplomats come to washington, they're not at the four seasons, they're at trump's old motel.hotel. i guarantee you the word in the street, if you want to do business, that's where you stay. so, this is the game. this is also the other side of the bargain that the americans entered into with their vote. and now you're going to pay for it. you're literally going to pay for it. >> i mean, claire mccaskill, when democrats sort of, you know, make a new argument to the country ahead of the midterms and the next presidential, how do you bake in the flagrant nature of the grift that this is to enrich trump and his friends and the fact that, you know, polling on tariffs suggests that it is 70% of americans understand that tariffs on imports will make things more expensive. how do you square that 70% of

all voters knew that tariffs would make things more expensive but rejected democrats because things are too expensive? >> doesn't make sense to me. and, you know the weird thing about this is, our guest pointed out, where this will have the biggest impact, small businesses, small manufacturing and those places dot red america, they don't -- the bigger companies are in urban america. the larger companies that can buy the warehouses and stockpile the steel and farmers. i mean, that's red america, farmers are red america. the last time, as she mentioned, they had to write a check for $28 billion to go -- talk about socialism. talk about the central government buying people off through socialism. $28 billion check to make up for the losses they had because the

retaliatory tariffs on corn and soybeans. in missouri, 50%, billions and tens upon billions of dollars is exported to canada and mexico and in china to a lesser extent. the farmers in missouri are going to take it in the shorts. and will he write them another check? well, all these guys, will elon musk be down with that, because he's going to cut government spending so much? and by the way, can i just say, a sad good-bye to guacamole? you know, i love my freaking guacamole. >> i do too. guacamole, my son loves to play -- you can have one food, my food is always chips and guac. that's what i live on until the end of time. i guess what is it? >> avocados are going to go to $10 a piece! the only people that will be able to afford guacamole are elon musk and all of his

children that are named after a imagine mathematic formula. people in middle america, people in middle america, they are out of luck when it comes to guacamole or avocados. it is over. i'm just telling you, it's going to be a blood path at the place where you get your guacamole. your jaw is going to drop and you're going to go, well, remember, donald trump made guacamole unaffordable. >> michael? i feel like i moved to activism over this, guacamole. if that's what it takes to get people off their behind, then, okay, let's get in the gawk caucus and figure out how we help each other here. >> i stand with chipotle. christine romans, i'm sorry we descended. we appreciate you elevating this conversation and educating us.

christine, michael and claire, thank you so much. i'll sneak in a break. we'll be right back. much. i'll sneak in a break. we'll be right back.

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revenge does take time. sometimes events can be justified. the bigger problem from the people within, we have some sick people. the radical left lunatics. for those who have been wronged and betrayed, i am your retribution. i am your retribution. i'm not going to let this happen. i'm not going to let it happen. i will totally obliterate the deep state. >> the whole country is tuning

in for a bad succession. revenge and retribution. those are what seem to be the guiding principles on the incoming donald trump administration department of justice easels. the rule of law will simply be a tool to be used to pursue you, persecute, and prosecute political enemies. especially those people involved in the investigations that led to donald trump's federal indictments. a report in the washington post, president elect trump plans to fire the whole team that worked with jack smith who worked on the prosecutions against the former president. including attorneys that were protected. the washington post adds that trump still speaks frequently about the 2020 election which he lost to joe biden. he continues to insist it was

stolen. he maintains from the start that jack smith's investigations into his efforts to reverse his defeat and his mishandling of classified documents, are examples of the weaponization of government against him that must be avenged. that was reported shortly before jack smith filed motions to drop all charges, citing the doj position that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime. the prohibition is categorical and does not turn on the gravity of the charged crimes. the government stands fully behind it. the dismissal of the charges marks a historic moment. never before has a president been charged with radical -- ra

office before the charges could be adjudicated. the dismissal also underscores the start of a new era of the justice department. the department filled with donald trump loyalists who likely will be willing to carry out whatever donald trump wants, including potentially kash patel. president-elect trump expected to appoint kash patel to a high- profile position at the fbi or the justice department. top sources tell axial's given the hurdles. he's considering naming him deputy director or an appointed investigator role within the doj. a final decision has not been made. donald trump could change his mind by elevating kash patel to fbi director. it would send shockwaves throughout washington. his promises of retribution is

to begin the hour. send a lot, adam schiff of california. congratulations on your victory to the senate. i want to ask you a thought exercise. if your political retribution is to be carried out by what donald trump will view as his doj, don't you want to keep the career lawyers who successfully indicted you? >> i don't know what strategy he would have for his political retribution tour. he spent almost 6 years in the doj, these are professionals. these are a political act. it is not a deep state that donald trump keeps harping on and i find this the most orwellian speak when donald trump talks about going after

the weaponization of the justice department. he wants the weapon eyes the department. he wants to turn into some political retribution agency. not on behalf of the community but on behalf of donald trump. coming off a successful senate campaign, i heard a lot of people in california talk about crime and want something done in public safety. i heard nobody say that i want donald trump to go on retribution tour. they want to make sure the neighborhoods are safe. they want something done about fentanyl. if he uses his mandate, he will be very mistaken. i do worry about the career professionals at the justice department. less that he can successfully fire them and more that he can replace them by people to do his bidding. that will change the character

of the department in a destructive way. let me show you what pam bondi said about political retribution. the >> when republicans take back the white house, the department of justice, the prosecutors, will be prosecuted. the bad ones. the investigators will be investigated. the deep state, the last term for president trump they were hiding in the shadows but now they have a spotlight. they can all be investigated. >> i want to ask a serious question. donald trump tried this with durum. he took longer and spent more time and dragged all of his clinical enemies through a doj backed investigation for years. nothing happened. cases were opened. two went to trial. durum lost both of them. his long time prosecuting

partner of decades left over professional moral objections to what she saw as an effort to politicize prosecutions. it feels like the department could be full of durum's. people given power, but still have to make cases and take them to juries. two of chain convictions. is that an over read? is it simply to have the doj run by a bunch of john durum's? >> you can see a lot of prosecutors like him who spent millions of taxpayer dollars to come up with nothing. at pam bondi follows through, to investigate nonexistent voter fraud, or to graft to the prosecutors, what does that mean ? is she also going to go after the grand jurors who found

there was probable cause to believe he was engaged in multiple crimes? is she going to dispute the fact that he had boxes and boxes of documents at mar-a-lago? many were highly classified. did he obstruct the investigation? was she contested was a massive attack at the capital and all that he did to insider? i'm not sure what they are going to do except waste a lot of time and money? maybe their goal is to harass? if they are season prosecutors and some will be, they will know they do not have evidence and are not likely to find any. take would try to raise the cost of standing up to donald trump. that would be a tragic misuse of taxpayer resources. i think it is not too much to expect that there may be durum

like fruitless cost to investigations. >> what is your mind like in terms of a check on trump? >> we don't have for years to stand still, not addressing the economic challenges we have like the lack of affordable housing and other needs of families. how do we get things done on the issues that people were voting about in the election? i also fail, where donald trump goes after the rights and freedoms of the american people, he uses the office which is probably inevitable, i will stand up to him and expect others to do the same thing. i will not let the threat stop me from doing my job. that is what californians are

expecting. >> are you surprised how much of what timothy snyder calls a bank in advance as happening? since the three weeks donald trump was elected he has changed the tenor of the country already. >> i think that is true. people are still trying to wrap their heads around what the election means. i still am. you already have seen leading up to the election the acts of self-censorship. the decisions by the washington post and the l.a. times not to issue editorials are terms of self-censorship. a long delay in the film about donald trump coming out and other forms of censorship. people in the intelligence community and the doj looking for different jobs. not because they have to but because they don't want to be part of the tearing down of an institution that protects the country that they deeply believe in. yes, i think it is already having an impact.

it's having a further impact as you see people looking for the doors. sadly, they will be replaced by people who are not as confident or experienced or dedicated to protect the country and attacking crime. there are simply more devoted to the personal grievances of donald trump. >> what is interesting about the matt gaetz take and the pam bondi pay, no department will be more central to determine the success or failure of his second term than the doj. the pentagon and the dhs, they touch all immigration policy. child immigration read through rod that ran through the documents. crime is something he successfully narratively tried to project onto the elector in a fear mongering way.

intersecting that with emigration. if he deconstructs the doj where people are good and faithful to the rule of law are fired or chased on her leave ahead of that, replaces them with people who are subpar, it will not be the best people to do what the doj has to do to ensure donald trump's success. who can make that argument to him? >> i'm not sure? those that could stand up to him that had independence were drummed out of the first administration with donald trump in rapid order. he's not choosing those kind of people for the administration this time. he's essentially announcing a saturday night massacre at the justice department in advance. something that richard nixon try to do but was threatened with resignations and did see them rather than carry out those kind of politicized

orders. we are seeing this in advance and in broad daylight and great pride announced by donald trump. what we are likely to see if he keeps of this course, less of a focus on what voters are looking for. that is dealing with crime and dealing with the border crisis. more of a focus on political retribution. what we will get his political retribution and a marketing campaign to tell us how much safer we are when he puts his focus elsewhere. we can expect a good marketing campaign. what he is proposing to do to the doj is going to make us less safe. it will not address the challenge in the cities and the rural areas. that is a profound disservice. >> adam schiff, thank you for joining us. it is nice to see you. i will bring into the

conversation, maya wiley. the author of the new book, remember you are a wiley. plus, rick stangl. it's interesting to ask people about the ways that donald trump changed the country in three weeks. he is not in control of anything. timothy snyder describes opening in advance. >> i prefer the phrase, preemptive groveling. that is what we are seeing a lot of. he has changed the country. one of the things we have learned, trying to ponder what he is trying to do. i do not think there is a particular direction. he wants to do with the doj, not a particular idea or law, he wants to calais chaos.

chaos will lead to destruction. this is the steve bannon idea which he articulates well. i do not think he has an idea in mind pass? i think steve bannon actually wants it. i think donald trump wants to be popular. you're not made popular by having a justice department that can't deal with crime. >> it is even deeper. it includes a. what donald trump has always wanted is what is good for donald trump. that means many things that he used to talk about the swamp and like many things it is usually what he wanted as long as it was for him and anything that benefited him. being able to disrupt the doj going after antitrust or to disrupt the doj going after anyone who is a friend of his.

think about what he did with classified documents. they were currency for friendship and who knows what else? possibly favor, including foreign governments. we have not had the full investigation so we don't know. it helps donald trump to be able to organize government against his enemies. that is for donald trump. that's not just about chaos. that's not just about bannon. that's about his ability to do whatever he wants to do. we should remember this, as we're talking about how he will utilize it to his benefit including saying you cross me you will pay, that will be able to get people to bend the knee. it will hurt regular ordinary folks because the federal bureau of investigation is a

law enforcement agency. coming out, that agency was weapon iced because hoover did not like the movement. or when nixon had an enemy list that my father was on. imagine having a president who went so far as to direct personally exactly what he wanted, the law enforcement forced to do it, it will not stay contained within chaos our thin whatever narrow personal interest he has. his interests are wide and broad. >> what is the check on that? >> the check will be lawyers who will marshal every legal resource to create friction and say, no you won't. that is happening now to consider what those things are.

this happened in the civil rights movement. we had to protect each other. tom hayden came to our house. i was not born yet, after coming from georgia. fbi was following him to every stop along the way to harass him. do you know who met them at the door? my mother. she said no, we will not talk right now. he said it was better to talk now. there is a way where there is a creation of a support network for those who will be targeted. there are lawyers available so when the government comes weapon iced for anybody who is advocating anything that donald trump doesn't like or protesting in the streets, or anything else, this is where organizing and what we know and have done as a history of people who had to fight for unions and for civil rights and women's rights, when they

opposed war, they have always had to protect the ability to contest policy with government. those are the things we have to pull forward. in one of the things that donald trump road for the last nine years, the demonization of the deep say. being on the losing side when democracy was on the line. requiring some humility and the failure to understand that to donald trump, jim call me and pete buttigieg strzok, they were not about the things that were specific to their careers. they were about pursuing people who threatened him. they were investigating ties to russia. as a fact base, what was the

impact of the election? to go into another donald trump presidency, he is selecting people to run the doj and fbi who are adherents to the policy of political retribution. under the direction of the president, what do you think and how have you internalize absence of any sort of it? the deep state of the people connected the. to make sure the u.s. was never attacked again. they testified before congress more than any two government officials. the country got to know them and the policies enacted across the agencies. they told their story and they were out there. the whole inability and refusal to defend what donald trump

says was a deep state with any explanation. now you ask every pro-democracy republican or democrat, they say the career prosecutors are the much aligned deep state who defended last time? >> talking about the career professionals, they are the most obstinate people in the world. these are the people who don't ever achieve attacks or cut the margin for don't hire undocumented immigrants. these are people who are above reproach. yes, we depended on them the last time. i think we will this time. maya's appointment about concentration of lawyers, try firing a federal employer -- employee who is a lawyer. it's not easy to do.

they have due process guarantees. you have to fire them for cause. they will band together. i do believe in the idea of career professionals who they call the deep state as a way of protection for all of us. >> the first people who will be fired will be the people who worked on jack smith's team. if you want the people of -- >> what can we do? maybe we can support the legal lawyers anybody talk about the demonstrations we had in 2016 the same. i do not know why? >> there are conversations about the complexity. there are so many issues. what we have to do is think

about mobilizing pro-democracy movement. in when we come back -- what they do when a second truck presidency -- how barack obama can point the way forward for the party and the pro-democracy coalition. we will look at the lessons that the 44th president is offering. deadline white house continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. t go anywher.

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get a pair folks feel like they need a break. there is no time for that and the time is not now. the new immunization begins in earnest, the sense of urgency must be reignited in the hearts and minds of the pro-democracy coalition. it would be the most important mission ever. our friend, mark, starts his latest piece. ernest hemingway's novel, one of the characters was asked how he went bankrupt? gradually and subtly. nearly 100 years the lines it ring true. bankruptcy tends to happen gradually until it happened suddenly. joining us now, founder of the site, democracy. elias, joins the conversation. >> i wanted to lay this out because i was surprise after the election but at how quickly

business titans, media personalities, big figures in the american civil society started to retreat. they started to indicate that they were not up for the fight against donald trump in 2025. this was just in the days and early weeks of the postelection. asked what are the choices i will make someone who is not at the top of the list for retribution but someplace on the list. what will i do as someone who has dedicated her life to fighting for voting rights? the donald trump administration would do a lot of terrible things. the choices i will make is not to shrink. i will not allow him to win by having the people who have the ability to stand up go

politically bankrupt gradually and then all at once. i know that is true of everyone at this table and i hope that is true of everyone listening. >> we in -- the narrative that people are not as committed to being a part of a resistance to what donald trump said out loud of what he will and will not do. has the wrist -- risk of being self-fulfilling -- you want to say to the folks who are feeling like pushing back is not safe or not worth it -- >> you need to distinguish two different things. it is not safe. everyone needs to be safe and make decisions. i asked the people who command the public to respect, you have

been talking about women who face obstacles to reproductive care, what courage they have been showing. you talk about what people who face unfair policing in their communities, the courage they need to show. i asked for the people who had more comfortable lives have not faced those challenges, all of a sudden that donald trump is there and the menace that he is , isn't it your time to stand up? your time to show heroes as a -- >> i take that point to heart. i want to ask you a dumb question. i will put it out there. because donald trump likely feels happy to the degree he

feels happy about winning the popular vote, is it improving his standing in just about every group of voters, accept black women? god bless, black women. is it taking him -- he's not word to anything. you can make an argument that he could benefit if other groups who turned out for him had an easier time voting for him. ? i don't think that's how the republican party or he see it. that is just something on twitter. i saw something from a reporter does set of you look at the people disenfranchised, they were democrats and african americans. no surprise. it is true that donald trump

won. he won more than kamala harris. the fact is that the republican party is committed to making it harder to vote. only committed to free and fair elections when they win. we're watching in north carolina as judicial races hang in the balance. a democratic candidate is winning by a couple hundred votes. the republican challenged the votes of 60,000 north carolina teens. -- carolinas. those of the tactics the republicans are using day in and out. we cannot give up this fight. donald trump wants us to believe that he is all-powerful

and if you fight back you will lose. he wants you to believe that if you fight back you could face danger. you want to believe you fight back and will matter because he is in control. that is not true. we need to build resistance and opposition. something that will last for four years and beyond. we need to build that now and we need to for the long run. we will be right back. giving tuesday. giving tuesday.

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we're back with mark, maya, rick. i will share a report in the new york times about president obama. as a democratic party tries to figure out a way forward, it can't merely mimic obama. the country has changed partly because of trump. the party assume that the answer is simply to moderate his position. the democrats who won tough races this sometimes on the lake bernie sanders talk about foreign trade or corporate america. and joe manchin talking about social issues. obama's success remains relevant. it highlights the importance of treating working-class respectively. as a reminder that no democrat since obama has come up with an approach that works as well as his did. >> one of the things happening right now that is damaging is

the finger-pointing about this election. the truth is, it's about working people and democrats had a lot of policies to benefit working people. now it's laying off the traditional obama coalition which is the path which i call a civil rights governing coalition. women, people of color, a coalition that exists in this country. to get there it has to have big and bold ideas. it cannot just be very specific and little ideas. the whole debate about who is the blame, the 90 million people who sat home, they are not to blame. why did they think it didn't matter what they did? we have to proposed the future of better quality of life. it has to be one we are able to be explicit, there are several ways which obama was about

people of color in this country. about seeing everyone to see themselves in it. what is concerning to me about how we are talking about this, what i call the traditional civil rights coalition, that's what it is. it says that civil rights has always been about the ability to pay your rent. to have a decent place to live. a good school to go to. good healthcare. that has been fundamental to the visions of the country. bold policy ideas about what we will do for people, to be able to name and point to all people in back, cannot just become what otherwise could be. it could be a capitulation to a vision that is not ours. the justice we were talking about early. by the way, black women are very angry.

if we are not able to talk about who the base is and help make sure that we are seeing, try winning an election. know that black women have always actively done the work of civic engagement. guess what black women want? what everyone wants. they want the kids to be healthy, safe, good education, to take care of ourselves and our family. we have not only a black woman who was denigrated as unqualified but we have the democratic party pointing fingers at her. she had 100 days in a context that was difficult. we have a lot of things to learn. one lesson we should learn, this is something that donald trump did, recognize who your bases.

embrace your base. recognize that you do not win without it. it's not either/or. i have to have the ideas to speak to her. i have to say that it is still the obama coalition with the ability to have a governing coalition for this country. one that will meet the needs of many people. a has to be driven by big ideas and to recognize who helps to drive them and to remind people that if they show up, something will be different. hallmark of obama's presidency was competence. he could take within his own party. there were protesters outside the white house all eight years protesting his deportations. he made things work and he was able to govern. that feels like an important piece to take as you look at

the politics. >> one thing he never did was point his finger at the voters, to blame them. he understood implicitly that the voters are always right. they are never wrong in a democracy. if they are self-interested, that is fine. i will point my finger at mark. he was an incredible hero over the last four years. if we could multiply him by 1000, we might be in a different situation. >> five of you would be good. you get the last word. >> that is kind of you to say. obama was a generational talent. he was an unbelievably smart person, someone who understood

voters, politics. he did not just leave the coalition he created it. we would all be well advised and wise to not give up on that coalition. there is a reason why he built that and it was so successful. democrats need to keep that in mind. >> it is still there. i went out and interviewed obama voters who became donald trump voters. their older and watching. they are still there. >> a lot were not there this time. young black men. hispanic men. some white women. that coalition actually became in some ways more elite and less working-class than under obama. >> i don't think that is true? we should acknowledge that there is a lot more data that will come out of what happened in this election. like all things, the white vote

came out in record numbers. there were 90 million people who did not. a lot of conversations i was having, whether it was milwaukee, detroit or georgia or anyone, a lot of people were not saying that i will vote for -- they were saying what will be different? that's what we have to help them see. >> marc elias, thank you for joining us. when we come back we will talk with maya about her new book, remember, you are a wily. we will be right back. k. from babysitters, to nannies, to daycare centers. find all the care you need at care.com hi, i'm susan lucci. you may know me from my many years on television. i never thought about heart disease until i had my own heart event. i felt this slight pressure on my chest, just slight. i thought, oh, it's nothing. it'll go away.

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maya riley's new book is called, remember, you are a wiley. it tells the story of her parents, civil rights activists. to discover how she would choose to live out the values they fall for. from the book, i was on a path that was completely mine. on a mission i shared with my parents. i was becoming a lawyer at the end of reagan's. he would appoint almost 400 judges to the federal bench, the most of any president. these were bleak times to enter the legal perfection as a civil rights lawyer. as one does seem to cry out for the activism of my parents generation. i wanted to be a movement lawyer, despite not moving times. work did not stop movements come with masses of people around the country when people get fed up.

i could be a tool in the toolbox reveal fighting between the movement times. are we in a movement time? >> no. movements happen when there is a call that people see directly affecting their lives and they will not take it anymore. it becomes decentralized. there is not a single leader as much as we revere martin luther king juanny romero., he was not the movement. the movement was when four college students decided to sit down at a counter and a whole bunch of others joined them and it mushroomed across the country. my father was working with lack women and welfare because he believed that we had to solve poverty for everyone. we would not solve it if we did

not find a way to bring poor people across race together and black women on welfare since most women i welfare were white, they could be a way to organize that and support the antipoverty movement coming out of the civil rights movement. they made tremendous strides. the point, there always are the people who worked to prevent the struggle for moving forward. we talked about hoover. we will see it now in adt administration. it will come for all of those organizers. it will come from the people who are doing the work. just as we saw when folks were protesting police violence. these are the things. we are starting to see movement times. what we have to do, how long was it before we actually got voting rights? i said at the helm of the coalition that won the voting right act of 1965.

the leadership conference on civil rights. it took us 100 years of the fights did not stop. the organizing did not stop. the institutions, the people, the leaders, the work, happened. the actually advanced democracy because we had a civil rights movement for everyone. that work has not stopped. the importance and the reason i wrote this book, was because we have to remember that we are in a marathon that is about passing batons. everything we do matters. we have to remember that marc elias is an amazing lawyer. there are a sea of lawyers out here. those lawyers are working with community-based organizations and groups on this kind of fight. we now have to protect each other because we have a government that will try to undermine the movement.

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