americans 24/7 maintenance team at jfk has been working ahead, prepping the fleet for this record-breaking week. >> they're in the air all day. they come here at night and we do what we need to do to get them back in the air and fly safely and reliably for us. >> reporter: every airline tells us they've spent months preparing for the here and now. well, we wish everyone safe travels ahead of the holiday. get to that airport early. on that note, i wish you a very good night. i am symone sanders townsend in for stephanie ruhle. you can catch me on saturday and sunday mornings on our new show "the weekend" with michael an alicia. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news thank you for staying up late. i will see you this weekend. i will see you this weekend. so fox news is not exactly known for asking tough questions of donald trump. but when it s comes to trump an

his proposed tariffs, well, maria bartaromo actually went for it. >> if acyou put something like 200% tariff on a product, it only means higher prices for consumers. >> it doesn't mean that. >> it has to be passed on somehow. >> no, it doesn't mean that. >> for years now donald trump has been campaigning on the promise that he would enact massive tariffs as part of his america first economic agenda. he has been trying to get away with pretending the tariffs would not somehow cost american consumers anything. >> a tariff is a tax on a foreign country. that's the way it is whether w you like it or not. a lot of people say it is a tax on us. no, no, no. it's a tax on a foreign country. we will be a tariff nation. it is not going to be a cost to you. it will be a cost to another country. >> that line might have worked

on the campaign trail. but it is now time for trump to put his money or more accurately, america's money where his mouth is. yesterday, trump got specific about those promise tariffs. he threatened that on day one at of his second term he could enact a 25% tariff on all goods from canada and mexico and add o an additional 10% tariff on all goods from china. you might remember that tariffs were a central part of trump's first term, he loved tariffs and trade wars but they did not go well for him. back then, trump put tariffs, specifically, on all imported washing machines. and just as he is doing today, trump promised that those tariffs would not be paid for by american consumers. but guess what? they were. despite the fact the price of washing machines had been declining for years at that point, the year trump's tariff

took effect, the price of washing machines in the u.s. surged. an average of $86 a machine. the american consumer very much paid the price. and now, this week, trump is s declaring that he wants to take that same concept and apply it to the vast majority of everything america imports. most of our imports come from canada, mexico, and china. for years, the u.s. has imported more crude oil from canada than it has from the rest of the world combined. so for all of the trump supporters claimed one of their biggest issues was how expensive gas got under president biden? buckle your seat belts folks because gas may get a lot more expensives, trump's tariffs would likely make your car itself significantly more expensive.

one auto industry consultant told the times that the process of tariffs is a two alarm fire. there is probably not a single assembly plant that would not immediately be affected by a 25% tariff. chrysler makes mini vans in canada. ford in mexico. all of those vehicles and many others would become significantly more expensive if mr. trump follows through on his threat. those higher auto prices would have a significant effect on overall inflation. and higher car prices would probably lead to leer sales and layoffs at auto factories. factory layoffs. then there is the impact of trump's tariffs on the cost of groceries. mexico and canada are two of the biggest exporters of fruit and vegetables bito the united states. in 2022, mexico supplied 51% of fresh fruit and 69% of fresh vegetables imported into the

u.s. while canada supplied 2% of fresh fruit and 2020% of fresh vegetables. a combined 53% of all of our imported fresh fruits and combined 89% of all of our imported fresh vegetables. 89% of all imported vegetables. that's a lot of vegetables. but i don't know. maybe you are someone who likes the sound of that. maybe you think the u.s. should grow more of its fruits and vegetables domestically. the problem there is trump's other promise would destroy that option too. according to the department of labor and agriculture, nearly half of the nation's nearly 2 million farm workers lack legal status. the same is true of the work force that makes up our domestic dairy and meat packing industries. who am i to say that would make american grocery prices

skyrocket? luckily for me, reuters talked to a fruit economics policy professor who told ritters that mass removal of farm workers would shock the food supply chain and drive consumer prices higher. housing costs. not only does the nsu.s. get mo of its lumber from canada, but trump wants to deport the labor force that builds the housing. the ceo of the construction giant told npr it would devastate our industry. we wouldn't finish our highways or schools. housing would disappear, tariffs on their own could

devastate our economy. mass deportation on its own could devastate our michigan economy and donald trump wants to do both on day one. joining me now is chris haste. guys. it's great to have you. >> great itto be here. >> yikes. is what i have to say. i mean, the cascade effect is just staggering when you talk about the most talked about policies. there weren't a lot. mass deportations and tariffs. what is so dstunning, you pointed this out on your show. he tried this once before on soybeans and it ended up with subsidies the american government had to pay the american farmers who were the victim of retaliatory tariffs from china. >> it was the worst of all words. we export, we import a ton from

china as everyone knows. but we also export a lot of things to them including gs american farmers so they said okay, we retaliate, they put a tariff on our agriculture exports. tons of soybean just laying. then you have the weird situation where he took the revenue from the tariffs and used it to cut welfare checks to american farmers to make er them whole. it's a lose lose. now you are just paying people money to not sell the product that they grew. >> it is insane. >> it is just terrible. the other thing, it wasn't likek this experiment he did with trade war resulted in some rebalancing of the trade deficit in china. it was basically, it was like, it was professional professional wrestling acting

a. is it going to be that which is weird by the best case scenario or are they going to drive the car off the cliff? >> maybe he thinks it cannots strong man vibes. if the goal of these punitive tariffs in the case of china and mexico is the stop the trafficking of drugs, 93% of fentanyl seized by u.s. law enforcement is discovered in personal vehicles driven across the border by u.s. citizens. this is a solution. the problem exists right? but, i mean, it won't even change the sort of root cause of why he wants to impose these tariffs to begin with. >> we have been dealing with the fact, the biden administration had been actually if you look at the actual facts and statistics of

the fentanyl. so, there is that. if you are talking terries. i'm honeed in on the fact we have to fight for american workers. and in his best sense, donald ns trump is trying to articulate that is a claim he is trying to do. if john deere is going to move plants to mexico to build tractors, if case new holland to moves to new mexico as well. we will penalize everything that comes back across. those jobs still go over. now we have nothing for the american worker. and, what the biden er administration has been doing was investing and making the cost of starting these businesses attainable and investing from a government perspective in the community so that both, everything, everything, hug, all of it worked together. donald trump is proposing we

lose the proposition that chris was laying out. >> his best case scenario is people like, one of donald trump's strengths is he sees everything zero sum. and a lot of voters are. we are getting screwed. there is some pie and someone is taking a big slice. this rhetoric is useful so a lot of theatrics. he is going back and forth withh the new president of mexico. she wrote him a letter today. not a lot of stuff happening. what he is inheriting is in good shape. to the extent that he threw ideological commitment or narcissism or whatever is like, goes through with mass deportation and huge tariffs, it really will make things worse for people. >> you have to imagine there

will be some political cost. this is a man who won people making 30,000 to $99,000 a year. basic sort of articulations of like how you are doing. to pay at the ave grocery store. whether you can afford the feed your family. whether you can take a road trip. whether you can afford the gas to get to your job. i mean, that would all be affected. that is i guess the insurance policy here is it would crater trump support among the very voterrers that supported him. >> one of the reasons he is moving in this direction, tariffs and deportation is because it is a unique power afforded to the president. it is the cheapest and easiest way out instead of negotiating with congress and figuring out a tax proposal to penalize corporations wrongfully offshoring jobs, that would be a hard thing to do. getting into the tax code, figure out how to levy a penalty on a corporation that does illegal actions.

he will go for a tariff which is a blunt force mechanism he has. an awful way to try to address this problem. he is not going the harder route to build a coalition and address this problem. you could do immigration policy. tax policy. a whole series of actions you would move through congress. penalizing bad actors. what the democratic party has been trying. corporate rates. loopholes. auditing. but these are all the things republicans are trying to undermine the past couple of years. >> i guess, piggy banking on that, the hope is that the talk about mass deportations ends up being more rhetorical in nature than anything else. >> i think he is more likely to

really try to deport a ton of people than stick with a tariff regime that would start to wall street. he gets very spooked out when the dow goes down. >> the farm industry is complaining to trump. you can't deport all of our workers. everything, the whole system will start to break down if we lose half our labor force. >> there are more interest group contradictions bound up in this project than i have ever seen in a winning coalition. if you win an election, you have people with different interests and different views. this has all been subsumed under the cult of personality for trump but not forever. farmers have interests. >> agriculture has a big interest in washington dc. >> home builders don't want 't

lumber more expensive. >> or to lose their builders. >> you can't just do a rally and everyone project onto you that you agree with them when you have to start taking action. >> and chris raises an important point in turns of the coalition. now that it is uron the front doorstep, you have big ag, the home construction industry. they are saying wait, wait, wait, wait. those are coalitions that the republican party and donald trump would listen to. they are moneyed interests with a lot of lobbying power and very much inside washington dc. >> and you're right. the tom homan who is going to fill the deportation effort. i think he suggested jailing the denver mayor. he is ready to go after everyone. what it will do obviously is cripple actual economy. i believe when you have the kind of scaring and the fear based economy that trump wants to have, you have people just

exiting out of the labor force people waiting him out essentially. you don't actually create a vibrant economy where people come in and take these jobs. that's what we have to wrestle with. a fear based economy that doesn't even accomplish the goals he wants which is americans would come in and take the jobs in springfield, ohio for instance. that's in his mind. if you kick out a bunch of haitians in honda factories, white working class people come in and take the jobs. that would not happen. you would just decimate the factories here in america and the workers go underground. >> fear based economy, what could go wrong? thank you so much my friend. thank you for pulling double duty. >> a great pleasure. >> come by any time friend. >> you bet. >> coming up, the trump grift continues. new reporting that a top trump

adviser was reportedly shaking down trump's treasury pick for 30 grand a month. what donald trump wants to do about that. if anything. coming up next. but first, finally free from fi his leadership role, mitch mcconnell reportedly feels liberated and ready to stand up to donald trump. maybe. we'll discuss that next. trump. maybe. we'll discuss that next.

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senate have the legacy of mcconnell to block president trump. it will not happen. matt gaetz has withdrawn his nomination. and look, let's be brutally frank, you can't take this any other way. than a mitch mcconnell win. >> despite predicting that nothing would stop donald trump from getting his cabinet picks confirmed, steve bannon conceded something did. something did mitch mcconnell. today, the new york times reports that senator mcconnell is feeling liberated and prepared to defend his chamber's independence from trump. whether the man who privately mused about impeaching trump before voting to acquit him and who refused to hold a hearing for president-obama's supreme court nominee in an election year and expedited trump's in an election year, whether that guy is the resistance, that

remain to be seen. joining me now is charlie sykes. the new york times reports that mcconnell wants to concentrate on preserving the senate's institutional independence at a time when trump says he wants to bend the chamber to his will. what do you say about mcconnell being the face of a resistance of sorts? >> extremely unlikely. we have been through this before. over and over and over again. but let's play a quick became of what if. what if, in the twilight of his career, he does actually regret not disqualifying donald trump after january 6th? what if in his heart of hearts,

he deeply does resent trump's conduct and racist slurs against his wife? what if mitch mcconnell does think trump's foreign policy is dangerous and what if he is serious? this is where i think you draw the line, that he is serious about protecting the integrity of the institution? because donald trump from the moment of his election basically made it clear he wanted to bend the senate to his will. he wanted the senate to surrender its powers of advise and consent. mitch mcconnell will say the way this system is set up, we are not potted plants. we will be jealous of our power. the other what if that i think that we need to keep in mind and i don't put a lot of stock in this, but what if at this point in his life. mitch mcconnell is all out of

bleeps to give? i'm not simply going to be another spear carrier for donald trump. you put all those things together, and you have the possibility of someone saying i have nothing to lose. i'm going to do what i want to do. really for the first time in maybe 20 years in terms of not having responsibility. the full position, skepticism but it is really an interesting question right now. especially going back to your last segment. what we are learning about the unilateral power of the president. all the things that donald trump will be able to do without congressional approval. the fact that he can unilaterally impose billions of dollars in taxes is extraordinary. i don't think a lot of people realize that. the fact he does have the power to initiate mass deportation, he can use the department of justice. so this is the moment at which

the senate can be a check on donald trump. and there is no love lost between these two men. >> that's for certain. it does beg the question whether the senate led by republicans with mitch mcconnell as kind of an engine under the water if not the mayorty leader will really show some backbone. i wonder what you make of his silence on trump's most controversial cabinet picks other than matt gaetz who is no longer in the running. he has not said anything about pete hegseth or tulsi gabbard or robert f. kennedy jr. do you read into that silence? and do you think the gaettz failure is giving republicans a sense of renewed faith in their own agency? that trump will relent in some

cases or do you think, i mean, more gun shy as it were about killing off one of his nominees because he already lost one and donald trump doesn't like to lose? >> to be hones we don't know. but you asked exactly the right question. i thought the rejection of matt gaetz would make it harder for them to reject number two and three. in fact, they might possibly be getting a sense that they are, that they do have agency. they are not potted plants. they are able to have real influence in this. and mitch mcconnell's role will be a lot of this behind closed doors where he will sit with others and give them encouragement? permission? a little cover to say hey, why are we here? we are united states senators. are we going to roll over? do you think america is safer with pete hegseth in charge of

the department of defense? do you really want to put the entire western alliance at risk with tulsi gabbard in that position? do you want one of your first votes to be to confirm a conspiracy theorist like rfk jr. and so, there are others that might be emboldened by this. obviously, the first early test will be on these confirmations. but, there is a real difference between mitch mcconnell and people like mike rounds for example in the senate alied with trump on issues like ukraine. when it comes down to it, what stand will they take against a donald trump that wants to throw nato under the bus? or wants to cut off ukraine? that may be a red line for some of them. and again, with 53 votes, you don't need more than a handful. and again, we have seen this over and over again. the way they cave in.

but you know, new day, new game, new personnel. yep. mitch mcconnell, thom tillis. the nation turning its lonely eyes to you. thank you charlie. >> thank you. still to come this evening, a tale of two trump loyalists. after risking his livelihood trying to help trump retain power in 2020, rudy giuliani says he is so poor right now, he cannot even afford a new york city taxicab. and donald trump's inner circle is investigating boris epsthein for trying to monetize his access to trump. we'll have more on these stories coming up next. ories c there he is. wherever i go they always ask “where's waldo?” ah, you found me. never “who's waldo?” sometimes it takes someone who really knows you to make you feel seen. gifts that say i get you. etsy has it.

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and sheae mass for defaming them. how is it that rudy giuliani has not been able to turn his fortunes at a time when his number one guy is about to retake the white house? well, self-proclaimed billionaire donald trump has reportedly not offered to cough up any of his own money to pay rudy's legal bills and has done little if anything to help his old pal giuliani beyond participating in a fundraiser for him last year. in fact, as recently as last month, giuliani claimed the trump campaign and the rnc still owed him $2 million. what giuliani appears to have forgotten is the one rule of being in trump's orbit. nobody profits off of trump but trump. unwavering loyalty to trump might get you an endorsement or a presidential pardon or a

place in his cabinet but money flows in only one direction. toward trump. and now there is another trump world figure learning that same lesson. yesterday, multiple news outlets reported the trump transition is investigating long time trump aide boris epstein for trying to personally profit off of trump's presidency. according to the times, several people who mr. trump trusts had alerted him that he was seeking money from people looking for cabinet appointments. the trump transition team said epshteyn had sought money from people including bessent. in a call set up between the

two men, epshteyn said he was boris f-ing epshteyn. the trump team has not actually taken any action against him. investigation, and apparently, leaking it to multiple news outlets. as for donald trump himself, his goal is not to distance himself from boris but to rehind him who is in charge. as trump told john solomon, it's a shame but it happens but nobody working for any in any capacity should be looking to make money. nobody, that is, except the man at the top. in just a second, i will talk to congressman jim about the people donald trump is choosing to surround himself with in a second term and what he expects from them. that's next. expects from them. that's next.

while former congressman matt gaetz flame out, the remaining appointees might have a much easier time getting confirmed. trump officials are set to receive immediate clearances and easier fbi vetting. trump's political appointees will only face fbi background checks after the incoming administration takes over the fbi and its own officials are

installed in key positions, here toics plain that is jim hines. i'm glad to have you here. on its face it seems disturbing you would do away with the fbi vetting process but another layer is waiting until trump officials are installed and have access to classified information. and state secrets before you actually begin to vet them. what troubles you the most about this potential scenario? >> you know, not surprising right? we saw this as a president who decided to take very sensitive materials with him to mar-a- lago. that criminal case of course has been dismissed but this is an administration and president who has shown disregard for classified information. the reason this is so important is because this is a complicated world. desperate to understand our secrets. to know the capabilities that we have and you can spin any

number of scenarios. one of the reasons we do background checks is to see if an individual has a friend we suspect of being spies who who maybe has something that can be used to blackmail them. so look. it is a dumb risk to take since at the end of the teheran cigs are used to getting this done quickly. >> because of your exper seize, i'm curious to know how you think about this. we have reporting that the trump team has been relying on private lawyers to do some of the background checks for its appointees. i'm aware they would have less eyes on in terms of potential

compromised positions. but could you talk specifically about how much weaker a vetting by a private lawyer could be compared to a proper fbi background check. >> a lawyer is being paid a fee. they might be good. but looking into somebody's background, understanding who is connected to who, you know, the korean individual you spent a week with in london two weeks ago, no way a lawyer in the united states has access to the kind of information and understanding for the networks that exist out there designed to compromise these people in the same way that the fbi would. so it is just a silly thing and particularly silly given a lot of the folks, you start with matt gaetz who is fortunately off the scene now. but tulsi gabbard was an elected official. a member of congress. ran for president. has never been through this

process. has never had to my knowledge because of her service in the national guard, access to strategic level secrets so there is a huge exposure that need not be undertaken but the trump administration seems to be pointing a big middle finger at anything conventional. a lot of it which is there for a reason. >> the job of investigating tulsi gabbard's background has fallen to the media. they are looking at her numerous superpacs. they found unidentifyable donors. suspicious spending. there are a lot of questions about who is bankrolling some of her campaign arms. i know you are not in the senate, but if she is in fact going through the confirmation process, what questions would you have for her? seeing as she could be the director of national intelligence. >> i worked with a number of

them. there are two key characteristics in that job. number one, it's a massive administrationive job. it is a huge leadership management. number one. that is not something she has ever done. she has run for elected office her whole life. so there is a question about whether she has the basic managerial competence. they cannot let their own opinions, the concern about what the boss may want to hear interfere with what they say. and tulsi gabbard has been a purveyor of conspiracy theories for a long time. that they were doing bio medical experiments in ukraine. maybe that is why russia invaded ukraine. the conspiracy theories go on and on. if i was a senator i would say

what is the deal? what is your attraction to these conspiracy theories and how can you make me comfortable you will be nothing but 100% straight shooter when you provide intelligence to the president of the united states? >> what do you make of him commissioning an investigation into his long time lawyer who was trying to shake down potential cabinet nominees? do you think it is a sign of hope that trump is vaguely interested in grift? i'm saying that with you know, the caveat that it is trump we are talking about. >> well look, you know. the intensity of the grift is staggering. it must be confusing to be in the trump orbit. trump sneakers, trump steak. it is okay for him to do that. the boss gets to do it but no one else gets to do it. that must be a confusing thing

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propublica has reported on several women known to have died because of abortion plans. they published the story of a fifth woman. 35-year-old mother of two portia gamenzie who died from hemorrhaging in a state where abortion is banned from the moment of conception. she needed a procedure often used in abortions but is still technically allowed in the state of texas but doctors avoid administering them because they risk a 99 year prison sentence if they are found to have performed an abortion illegally. her death was preventable but texas law seems to have

pressured her doctor to abandon the standard of care. an increasingly prevalent pattern in states with abortion bans. joining me now, michelle goldberg. this is the new play book. i mean, just trying to decouple abortion care from health care. and you see what the results are here when you sort of untether abortion care from just the basic survival of a patient. >> and the one thing that has happened is these laws have such narrow exceptions and the exceptions don't mean anything in practice. because when you are in a chaotic environment of an emergency room, when can the doctor say you know, someone's life as opposed to their health is at stake? that is a fine line. and texas changed the law to

allow for emergency abortions in case your water breaks early. but it is not that you can't be investigated an prosecuted. it is called and affirmative defense. if you are taken to court and charged with this felony, you can use this fact in your defense. so this is like who wants, very few people are willing to risk that kind of persecution and risk seeing their life and career go up in smoke and even if doctors want to do the right thing, there is no question in this case. >> but when you have the threat hanging over your shoulder, not just yours but everybody in the bureaucracy, it will always be a finger on the scales against doing what needs to be done. >> and jessica valenti, she is young. very young. one of the great writers on abortion writes that the effort to redefine and replace

abortion in legislation has always been about laying the ground work for one central and false argument that abortion is never medically necessary. and that is sort of what you are seeing articulated here. you could be hemorrhaging but we will not give you dmc. >> the reason they won't put medically necessary exemptions into the laws is they would have to admit that there is such a thing as a medically necessary abortion. >> and the other piece of it, right, the other self- fulfilling prophesy of women not getting the standard of care abandoned is the doctors who specialize in this sort of stuff, the obgyns practicing in the state of texas are increasingly few in number. 21% of obgyns polled in the state of texas are considering or planing to leave the state because of these bans. >> there is a real moral injury to doctors when they don't feel

like they can treat their patients the way their professional and ethical obligation requires. you have already seen an up tick in the maternal mortality rate in texas. it is unclear how much of that was due to the immediate aftereffects of covid and the abortion ban, but at least some of it seems to be due to the abortion ban and it will only get worse as this trickles down through every aspect of maternal health care. >> in order to cast a shadow over this reality, just as they are doing in georgia, texas i believe is avoiding the collection of data on women who have died from the texas ban because they just have too many cases. >> they are avoiding the examination of data. they have these maternal review boards that go through saying there is this death that could have been prevented. what were the circumstances? could it have been prevented?

what should we change our policies so that deaths like this don't happen in the future. in georgia after the propublica story about the two women who died, they dissolved their maternal mortality review board and in texas, they just decided that they are not going to look at cases from 2022 and 2023 which happen to be the two years after the abortion ban. >> and the last piece of it is some of these complications arise from abortion medication, mifepristone, not working because of extinuating circumstances. not being administered correctly. and that, the anti-choice movement uses to hold aloft and say this is why you can't have medication abortion. >> they certainly did that in georgia where a woman who had gotten medication in a neighboring state. gone back, had complications left untreated. what you will see in a new

trump administration is those used as a pretext to crack down on mail abortion providers. >> thank you for wading through this thicket of dark news. thank you. that is our show this evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening alex. i so much wanted to get one of the first words on your show tonight when you were talking about tariffs with chris hayes. i love that segment. everything about it. and here is my thought. having listened to you all. it is impossible. it will destroy the economy. the mass deportations will destroy the economy. so, he won't do it. he will get to february and say oh, just canada and mexico are behaving. that's only thing i can imagine. >> that's his out. that it's all bluster, strong man, fan boy,