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east. hours into a permanent ceasefire between israel and hezbollah, hundreds of thousands of displaced people returning to their homes. will this fragile peace hold after decades of deadly conflict? also ahead, the trump transition, the president-elect adding another polarizing pick to an already controversial public health team. plus, a trade war on day one? mexico warns of retaliation if trump places tariffs on america's biggest trading partner. later, how storms and strikes could make for serious holiday travel headaches on this thanksgiving eve. ♪♪ good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart in for ana cabrera. we start with some breaking news. three americans who have been wrongfully detained in china for years have been released. the biden administration has been pushing chinese officials on this and we're told earlier
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this month president biden brought up the matter with china's xi jinping on the sidelines of the aipac summit. gabe gutierrez is at white house. how did this come together? >> reporter: we are getting this breaking news just this morning as we understand it, as you mentioned, earlier this month president biden had spoken to president xi on the sidelines of the aipac summit and talked about releasing some of these americans being held in china. now, they are, according to the white house national security council, mark swidan and others, been detaped in the people's republic of china. two of the three had been designated as wrongfully detained by the u.s. state department. he was detained in 2012 on drug-related charges and he has spent more than a decade being detained in china. li has been detained since 2016,
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serving a ten-year prison sentence. leung detained in 2021 and sentenced in 2023 for life in prison on spying charges. again, this is the biden administration announcing this just a short time ago. the white house has repeatedly said that president biden has helped bring home over 70 americans unjustly detained. really around the world. and certainly we've heard about several of these stories over the course of his a administration. we can also tell you that national security advisor jake sullivan, he had also urged the return of americans were wrongfully detained in china during his visit to the country at the end of august. again, that breaking news, three americans who were detained in china have been released. we are still waiting more details at this point, jose. >> and gabe, any idea as to what china got in return? >> reporter: well, we are still waiting confirmation of that.
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it has been reported that there has -- that this is part of a prisoner swap, and it also has been reported that the americans may already be in the u.s. custody. that's usually what happens. the white house does not announce these swaps before americans are safely in u.s. custody. but again we are waiting for confirmation of that from u.s. officials here at the white house, jose. >> gabe gutierrez at the white house. thank you so much. and we turn to other breaking news. this time in the middle east where a new ceasefire between israel and hezbollah is now in effect. this means all fire will stop from both sides. israel begin its withdrawal of lebanon and remove all idf forces within 50 to 60 days. with the ceasefire now in effect, hundreds of thousands are already returning home. an estimated 1.2 million have been displaced both in southern lebanon and northern israel over the last few months of fighting. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu thanking the united
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states for the help in the deal, but cautioning israel, quote, reserves its right to act against any threat to its security. halyna hutchins a halloween is in jerusalem. mike is traveling with president biden, also with us former middle east advisor and ambassador to morocco mark ginsburg. hala, thousands are already mobilizing just hours into this deal. what are you seeing in the region? >> reporter: well, in lebanon we are seeing bumper-to-bumper traffic. hundreds of thousands of displaced lebanese residents from the south returning to their homes. they might find homes destroyed though. an nbc news investigation revealed in some these border communities occupied by the israeli military the last few weeks, 40 to 60% of the structures have been demolished in bombing campaigns. you are seeing there some of the traffic headed towards southern lebanon. we are also seeing columns of lebanese regular army vehicles
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headed to the south. 5,000 troops to start with. the lebanese defense minister was quoted saying that number will increase to 10,000. those troops are supposed to, according to the ceasefire deal, take the place of the israeli military, which will withdraw gradually over the next 60 days according to the terms of this ceasefire. hezbollah fighters will have to, according to the agreement once again, head north of the litani river. there are many potential spoilers along the way. the oversight mechanism, how will it that work. if israel, as it has said, reserves the right to respond to hezbollah if it deems that that group, the militant group backed by iran, violated the terms of the ceasefire, had it consult with the committee, or will it go ahead and attack right away? there are many, many potential issues embedded within this ceasefire agreement. for the civilians who suffered so much, this has to be at least a day where they can breathe a
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sigh of relief, where no bombs are falling actively, though the idf warned civilians do not come close to the pole sixes we are still holding because it is dangerous and might put you and your family in danger. of this is not completely a ceasefire in the sense that the idf is still reserving the right to prohibit the free movement of lebanese civilians in some parts of southern lebanon, jose. >> ambassador, taking a big picture look at this, how significant is this ceasefire? >> well, jose, hello. it is very significant. a shout out to special envoy amos hochstein who did a herculean job cobbling together this sees ceasefire. what the biden administration of course hopes is that this ceasefire, if it is durable and is able to preserve a return of civilians not only from southern lebanon -- to southern lebanon, but also civilians back to their
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communities in northern israel, that it can leverage this to force hamas back to the negotiating table and reach some sort of ceasefire agreement in the south. i'm skeptical whether that's possible. israel has declared it was not cease hostilities in gaza notwithstanding the cabinet's agreement to begin withdrawal of idf forces from southern lebanon, number one. number two, ultimately the issue is what will iran do to thwart the ceasefires? all roads lead to tehran, jose. and it will tehran cease and resists further rearming hezbollah and hamas, i'm afraid the truce may not last very long. >> yesterday president biden said the u.s. will help ensure this ceasefire is in force. what could that look like? >> well, jose, a key part of the negotiations that led to this
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deal began in fact days before the presidential election here in the united states. amos hochstein mentioned by the ambassador there was summoned to israel by the prime minister benjamin netanyahu to say essentially that after months of hard work diplomatically by the united states not just to bring about a deal, but to prevent this situation from escalating further, the prime minister said he saw a window of opportunity to get to the deal. what followed was intensive negotiations that included a role for the french, president biden speaking on friday by phone with french president emmanuel macron to talk about the ways in which those two countries would add to an existing mechanism to be an intermediary should potential violations of this ceasefire occur. this will take 60 days to get into a place, but it's a part of a deal that the president hopes is durable as he laid out yesterday if when he spoke about this from the rose garden. take a listen. >> the fighting across the lebanese israeli border will end. will end. this is designed to be a
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permanent cessation of hostilities. if hezbollah or anyone else breaks the deal and poses a direct threat to israel, then israel retains the right to self-defense consistent with international law. >> reporter: now, the president making those comments before leaving the white house to travel here to nantucket. he insisted that no u.s. boots would be on the ground, although u.s. officials later said that they would play a role in offering assistance to the lebanese army which needs that assistance. we learned this morning from national security supervisor jake sullivan he was briefing the intomorrowing trump transition team. it falls to them if this deal remains in place by the january 20th to continue to play that supporting role. >> ambassador, how much of a factor was israel's systemic destruction of hezbollah infrastructure in making this deal possible? >> no doubt about it. and that is one of the reasons
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why there is such conjecture within the israeli public whether or not the ceasefire deal was the -- a right deal to do at this point in time because the idf was already on the cusp of doing significant and major damage to hezbollah's military capability. but yet, at the same time, hezbollah has been able to continue firing rockets from north of the litani river into israel. so while at the same time idf has done significant destruction, hezbollah still has significant missile capability to attack israel should the ceasefire fail. >> president biden spoke about the continued fighting between israel and hamas. >> over the coming days the united states will make another push with turkey, egypt, qatar, israel and others to achieve a ceasefire in gaza, the hostages
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released and the end of the war without hamas in power, that becomes possible. >> does the white house see any real possibility of an israel/hamas ceasefire and the return of the hostages? >> no doubt, jose. >> it's a big -- >> sorry. mike first. sorry, then ambassador. actually, let me ask you, mike, to do that. ambassador, i have something i want to ask you on behalf of mike's answer. >> reporter: sure thing, jose. well, the white house is significantly believing in the power of momentum and hope this is the beginning of further momentum in the region. there has been no greater political toll perhaps on this administration the past year than the crisis in gaza. 54 days, of course, the president will be continuing to devote his effort, jake sullivan saying that work begins this morning to get to the ceasefire agreement.
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one of the reasons there is optimism is because a key breakthrough in getting to the agreement was that hezbollah and lebanon agreed to no longer delink a potential ceasefire with a similar arrangement in gaza. to the u.s. officials, that means it only shows that hamas is further isolated in that situation. they had been the main barrier to an agreement and think now there will be continued progress. the other piece that is so important to the administering is getting input from stakeholders to have a plan to rebuild gaza after a ceasefire were to come into place. that is also a key ingredient of what the president hopes to do in his final weeks in office. >> and so, ambassador, taking off of what mike was just telling us, and your comments earlier about the influence of iran in all of this, they remain that same regime that has been in power since 1979 with the same objectives and mission statements. what is their -- is this any possibility of any true peace or
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even recognition while iran remains the same? >> no, there is no doubt that unfortunately the biden administration never really had over its four years a coherent policy on what to do about iran's continuing terrorism, not only against israel, but the united states forces in the middle east. and until iran is forced to cease andsupporting the proxies that it created, in order to destroy israel, let alone hamas and hezbollah and also the houthi rebels and shiite militias in iraq, we are going to have to push further for a far more sophisticated, long-term policy to undermine the iranian regime. that's the only message that they will understand, and that's the only way that israel is going to be able to have peace both on its northern border as well as in gaza. >> ah a, politically where does
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netanyahu stand and is there any possibility that he could be in favor of some further movement with hamas diplomatically? >> reporter: so, it's not just palestinians who occasionally will blame prime minister netanyahu for moving the goalposts on any ceasefire negotiations with gaza. it's also israelis themselves. specifically, the families of the hostages. prime minister netanyahu has been seen internally and throughout the region quite often as a leader who has gotten in the way of getting a ceasefire deal over the finish line. yes, hamas has been intransigent, yes, there have been issues with that organization, that terrorist organization, but there has been a lot of blame also leveled at prime minister netanyahu. for example, i can give you a specific example. when there were ceasefire negotiations several months ago
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and one of the requests was for the idf to evacuate what is called, what is known as the philadelphia corridor, it that strip of land that divides rafahen the egyptian side from rafah on the gaza side. the prime minister was extremely unwilling to move on that knowing that that would probably torpedo a ceasefire deal. now, as far as whether he is willing to use the momentum that has been gained through this ceasefire deal with hezbollah, well, we just need to listen to what the prime minister himself told his countrymen and women yesterday in his address, and he said, for me the war is not over. for israel, the war is not over. until we completely defeat hamas, completely defeating hamas is something that is an extremely tall order as many military experts will tell you. hamas insurgency will continue for a long time, even if the military rocket, if you will,
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capabilities of the group have been neutralized. so, there you have your answer sort of in a longer -winded way perhaps than you would like, but essentially it seems very unlikely there will be a ceasefire deal between hamas and israel at least in the next 54 days. jose. >> hala, the importance of understanding and of communication, thanks to you in no small mart. mcmentally, hala gorani, ambassador mark ginsburg, thank you for being us with this morning. next, a looming trade war. mexico threatens retaliation if trump goes through with tariffs. plus, the federal charges against trump dropped. what's next for the special counsel? and will we see a final report before jack smith closes up shop? later cloudy with a chance of thanksgiving turbulence. tense of millions facing a
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. 18 past the hour. the trump transition is entering the final stages after much delay, the president-elect's team has signed the transition agreement with the biden administration. that step coming as trump announced another flurry of new hires, this time focusing on domestic policy. according to the most controversy in this latest batch
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is trump's pick to lead the national institutes of health, a doctor who promoted herd immunity in the early months. deadly covid pandemic. nbc news senior white house correspondent kelly o'donnell is in west palm beach covering the transition, and nbc's garrett haake in washington, also with us "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker. kelly, good morning. walk us through the latest additions to the trump's white house lineup. >> reporter: well, good to be with you, jose. and certainly when it comes to putting his imprint on these picks, you could clearly see some of the ideas and some of what donald trump campaigned on. the president-elect wants to bring this disruptor status to these big institutions. so by choosing dr. jay bhattacharya of stanford, he is picking someone that takes us back to that early covid period where he was among those outspoken scientists who said that the lockdowns, mask-wearing and some of the practices that
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were a part of daily life then were not the best approach, and one of his associates was in the first trump term giving some counsel to then-president trump that was dr. scott -- i'm drawing a blank -- atlas. and what we have here is a scientist who -- he is not a practicing physician, but a medical doctor and an economist. and he will be running the national institutes of health if he is confirmed by the senate. that is a huge bureaucracy and he believes that it's important to bring different approaches to big federal government when it comes to health care. there are people in the medical community who are very concerned about some of his ideas and believe that part of what he has talked about is counter to the prevailing views of medical science. and so this will be a controversial pick. he has been outspoken, he has strong feelings, he has met with robert f. kennedy jr., of course, who would be the head of hhs if confirmed, and they have
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an approach of trying to change the way the business of medicine is run in the united states, and donald trump, with his political strength now, is trying to put that into place. so we've got a ways to go in the transition period with an opportunity for senators to meet these candidates, to learn more about them, to have a public discussion, but it certainly is in line with what donald trump said 'was planning to do, and this is evidence of how he is going to use that power in the selections he is making. jose. >> kelly o'donnell in west palm beach, thank you so very much, my friend. appreciate it. so, peter, dr. bhattacharya, republican thinking on two key points about the pandemic, thinks the covid lockdowns were bad, a critic of dr. fauci. is there any reason to believe he won't get through a senate confirmation? >> well, look, the senate has a lot of nominees on its plate.
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many of them controversial, many might be problematic in a different time. but they have to pick and choose which ones they actually take on in a significant way. i think that given, you know, rfk jr., given tulsi gabbard at the department of national intelligence, given, you know, pete hegseth at the pentagon, these are the ones attracting the most attention and the ones that may be most, you know, vulnerable if a few republicans peel away and join the democrats to block them. they can't go after all of them. that's why you see dr. bhattacharya and others who have significant roams and very significantly unconventional ideas possibly getting through, even though the hearings will probably illuminate some of these disagreements and disputes and highlight just how to -- outside of the mainstream some of these nominees are. >> derek, despite the rapid pace of picks by donald trump the
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past three weeks, the transition process was actually behind schedule. but the president-elect's team has signed the formal fwreept with the outgoing administration. what took so long? >> well, the president-elect's team wanted to do things in a different way, jose. specifically, use private money and private resources to fund their transition rather than accepting money from the federal government for things like office space and technology. it would have come with more strings attached. this agreement allows the trump team to raise money from the outside, although only from domestic donors, not foreign donors. they say that he want to use their own office space, their own technology, and a lot of their own systems that are already in place rather than relying on a more traditional transition funded by the government that would use gsa, general services administration, resources. the trump team says this will save taxpayer money. i think critics say it will also shield them from some oversight
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as to how they are conducting the transition as they move in. also part of this, jose, is an ethics pledge that was posted online last night that says that members of the transition won't accept gifts from outside folks, they won't be lobbying from the outside. kind of locks in place some of the standard protections you would expect to see to prevent conflicts of interest going forward. >> yeah, peter, it's clear that the trump team doesn't trust the fbi. there is still no agreement with the doj to allow the fbi to carry out background checks on trump cabinet picks. what's the impact of that? >> at this point there are limits on what kind of information the out going government give the incoming information. classified information is supposed to be provided to people who pass security clearances and there will be limits on what is available to these trump people until they get into office. once president-elect trump gets into office, he can change the rules as he chooses to. he has a great deal of latitude about providing security
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clearances even without fbi background checks if he wants to, at which point people can receive classified information. for the next 55 days, whatever it is, that's going to be limited. now, are the -- does that mean the fbi won't be conducting background checks on some people? it may be the senate requires them to, if they want to have confirmations, if the senators who are guarding their own prerogatives say, we are not going to hold hearings or not going to have votes on confirmation for some of these senate confirmable positions without fbi background checks, that will be an interesting, you know, set of conflicts with the incoming trump team because they, obviously, have made clear they don't want that. >> yeah, garrett, trump's day one plan to hit mexico, canada and also china with tariffs has led mexico, the president of mexico yesterday and her daily news conference to suggest retaliatory tariffs are on the table s is that something the trump team anticipates? >> if these tariffs go into
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place, i think there is a butterfly effect possibility where they only can really control what they do on the front end and we will see what kind of retaliation comes into play. that could ultimately have a negative impact on the american consumer. count me among the people who are less convinced that these tariffs will go into place and are more convinced they might be a threat and might be something that's being used to shape actions from the administrations in mexico and canada and in china in the time between now and when donald trump is inaugurated. in the truth social post where he threatened tariffs, he talked about controlling the flow of fentanyl across the border and changing immigration policies in mexico. i think it's possible that what we're seeing here is donald trump attempting to kind of almost like a brush back pitch in baseball, get the attention of the world leaders, two cases, allies, one case a rival, and see if they can get them to change policy before he walks in the door, give them the opportunity to claim credit for a victory on day one rather than
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starting a potential trade war on day one. i think both things are still possible. i think we should consider the possibility this is meant to be a threat, not necessarily meant to be the start of his economic policy on day one. >> garrett, thank you for throwing in some baseball terms. i appreciate it. peter, can trump unilaterally implement these tariffs, especially when, for example, these tariffs would actually violate the trade agreement that he negotiated in his first term with mexico and with canada. >> yeah, i mean, there is some disagreement about this. broadly speaking, a president has a lot more latitude when it comes to tariffs than it comes to a whole lot of other measures that a president would like to take under existing law. you know, there is a great deal of authorization. we saw that in the first term where he was able to, as garrett said, threaten tariffs and actually in some cases impose tariffs sometimes as a negotiationing position,
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sometimes as an act of aggression because in fact that's already vested in the office of the president. you're right to say to say he of course negotiated the updated version of nafta. they call it the us mexico canada agreement. and that's going to come into play. but i think garrett is right to point out that it's not at all certain whether these go through. in his first term on a number of occasions he used such threats to leverage, you know, concessions from the other side. he may think that's the best way to approach this, too. >> garrett haake and peter baker with home runs each. thank you very much for being with us this morning. appreciate it, guys? next on msnbc, wild weather from coast to coast. two major storms dumping rain and snow across the country with 80 million set to hit the roads. railways and skies this weekend, what you need to know to get through what could be the busiest holiday travel period on record. >> i didn't know that clfs
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inclement weather supposed to be happening. i should have checked. ather supe happening. i should have checked.
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32 past the hour. millions are already hitting the road and taking to the skies for what's expected to be a record-breaking week of holiday travel. but stormy skies, snow, potential worker strikes and staffing shortages are threatening to spoil those turkey day plans with thousands of flights already canceled, packed roads gobbling up hours of travelers' valuable time. nbc's tom costello has more on efforts to keep the airspace clear for these flights. tom. >> reporter: hey, jose. so things are packed today. we have an awful lot of people moving through airport checkpoints nationwide. certainly here at reagan airport in washington. the good news is so far minimal delays, minimal accumulations nationwide as these try to head out before the weather hits. the faa is opening up a military
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airspace along the east coast and the gulf of mexico, and also pausing rocket launches in florida to keep the entire system moving. from seattle to sarasota, boston to the bay area -- the nation's airlines spent months prepping for this week, this day. >> three hours early just to avoid any headache. >> reporter: nearly 3 million tsa passengers screenings, 50,000 flights in the air, and a coast-to-coast storm is threatening to disrupt one of the busiest thanksgiving travel periods on record with heavy snow, arctic temperatures, and heavy rain expected. the extreme weather potentially adding to the travel crush and already leading to delays and crowded airports on the east coast and the west. at united's center near chicago they monitor day every weather system. >> you are trying to stay ahead of the storm and the weather channel, right? >> several days ahead. >> reporter: the latest storm predictions fed directly to the
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captain's ipad in the cockpit. >> anytime visibility starts going down, ceiling starts going down, most likely see a delay. >> reporter: it's not just weather that will impact flights. today it's the on going air traffic control staffing shortages at newark airport. united says 28,000 of the new customers are being disrupted every day. the problems leading to a ground stop lasting past midnight. while the faa is training new controllers, it will take years to fully staff up nationwide. for the part, united is now using a.i. to read all of its flight data then quickly reaching out to customers with flight u.s. updates updates. >> ingesting our notes to make sure we understand the reason for the delay and that is then send to go a customer via text and email. >> reporter: including weather radar images so customers can see for themselves what's behind a delay and make their own choices. if my flight is can eld, am i better off letting you rebook me
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or should i do it myself? >> our app is absolutely the path you should take to rebook yourself. >> reporter: so back here at the airport, things are moving pretty well. today is going be a big test. then sunday is the mega test when they are looking at possibly 3 million people moving through airport checkpoints. it's going to be busy at airports and busy on the roads as well on sunday. leave early or leave very late on sunday. jose, back to you. >> tom costello thank you. nbc news meteorologist angie lassman has the latest forecast. >> unfortunately the weather may not cooperate in some spots as folks gear up for the holiday week travel. big picture look, we have got mostly nice conditions in the southern tier of the country. the rockies and stretching into the midwest there is some snow and rain part of a storm system we will be tracking the next couple of days and likely the culprit of many travel headaches over those same couple of days. a as we get through the second
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half of today the snow moves out of the rockies. thing will improve. the midwest gears up for some of that rain, nashville, lexington, indianapolis around 9:00 tonight, that's going to intensify. the roads won't be great. that leaves the potential for delays in kansas city and st. louis and of course the snow today denver could be problematic for folks there with those wintry kind of wet roads also in place across that region, road travel not going to be great. that stretches across i-70 as well, i-64 and i-75 could be slick as well through the second half of the day today. tomorrow all that rain and snow and wind pushes into the east. that is going to bring the potential for some once again wet roads and snowy conditions as well. the interior new england area that's where we see snow along with parts of the great lakes. but the heavy rain up and down the east coast, that's problematic for folks that are trying to get where they are going. stretching from places like montgomery all the way up into washington. new york, boston you will be
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wet. again the interior areas of new england, that's where the snow is and will likely see gusty conditions as well. heading into friday, more of the same for the great lakes with that lake-effect snow ramping up. better conditions for everybody else. notice how dry skies are. plenty of sunshine for new york, atlanta, omaha, denver. that means the delays won't be all that problematic for folks there. the cold conditions settle in. so minneapolis get ready for temperatures into the teens for your high on friday. airports that i would watch just really chicago and detroit with a little bit of that snow. otherwise, we have got good conditions for denver, l.a., folks flying out of washington, d.c., as well as atlanta as we round out the week. the roads look good, too. the great lakes are going to be a couple of those spots that we will watch for a bit more difficult kind of travel, but it's not all that expansive. essentially more of the same saturday. big picture look, stays the same. we still have the lake-effect snow here as we wrap up our holiday weekend and head back to work. back over to you.
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>> thank you. meanwhile, the temperatures in miami perfect. next on msnbc, trump's incoming border czar makes a visit to texas. how they plan to carry out promised mass deportations. plus, free and clear? the classified documents case against trump officially dismissed. what's left for special counsel jack smith as he closes up shop? ? remember, the annual enrollment period is here. the time to choose your coverage... begins october 15th... and ends december 7th. so call unitedhealthcare and get... coverage you can count on for your whole life ahead, with our broad range of plans... including an aarp medicare advantage plan from unitedhealthcare. it can combine your hospital and doctor coverage... with part d prescription drug coverage, and more, all in one simple plan... for a low or $0 monthly premium. unitedhealthcare offers reliable plans with benefits
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41 past the hour. turning to the southern border where trump's chosen border czar thomas homan paid a visit yet, previewing how immigration be handled under the trump administration. he said no one is off the table when it comes to mass deportations and is threatening jail time for local officials who do not comply. nbc news white house correspondent gabe gutierrez has more. >> reporter: president-elect
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trump's border czar in texas ready to carry out trump's campaign pledge to secure the border and deport undocumented criminals. >> we just finished a mass crisis on the bored. >> reporter: after ten million illegal border crossings in the last year, thomas homan says he plans to take the handcuffs off immigration and customs enforcement, i.c.e., but a major question is how he will get the manpower to do it. do you believe that local authorities should help enforce federal immigration laws? >> absolutely. i think we have to -- >> reporter: jeffrey gaylor is the sheriff in maryland, one of dozens across 21 states part of i.c.e.'s 287 g program, delegating specialized immigration to law enforcement. >> this isn't stopping people on the street saying show me your
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paups. they are arrested for something they committed against citizens you have our community and they are held accountable. >> reporter: one of his deputies showed us how the program is run out of the country jail where trained corrections officers look through i.c.e. database. do you anticipate this program ramping up potentially in this next administration? >> i believe so. i believe we will be very busy. >> reporter: the immigration debate exploding in this county. >> i was angry. i was actually very angry. >> reporter: where patty moran's daughter was murdered last year police say by an undocumented immigrant released into the u.s. >> i want people to be protected. that's all. i don't want more life lost. >> reporter: still migrant advocates say the 287 g program gives an unlawful excuse to help
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the poor people. >> this hurts those families, leads to worse public safety outcomes, it erodes trust in communities and hurts the economy. >> reporter: does this amount to racial profiling? >> no. everybody is screened. >> reporter: some democrats now vowing to resist trump's deportation plan. >> we are not going to cooperate in any way in that effort. >> reporter: denver's mayor threatened to post local police at the county line to block federal immigration officers and then backtracked. >> we have no plan to do that. we hope we don't ever have to do that. >> reporter: trump's new border czar with this response. >> don't test us. the nation wants a safe country. >> gabe gutierrez reporting for that. thank you, gabe. now turning to another federal case officially dropped against donald trump after an appeals court agreed to special counsel jack smith's motion to dismiss trump's classified documents case late on tuesday. the doj says it still intends to
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proceed with the case against trump's co-defendants. joining us, dave aronberg, state attorney. great seeing you. how final is the dismissal of charges against trump in this classified documents case? >> good to be with you, jose. it is temporary, but very likely to be finalized at some point because what they did was dismiss it without prejudice, meaning they could conceivably refile it after january 2029, but at that point we could be living on mars. who knows what happens then? at that point i think that the department of justice will not refile it because donald trump will be 82 years old and we have seen his delay tactics work. also, he will try to do some things to make it more difficult for the government to do so, like perhaps a self-pardon. we don't know if that will work. it will be up to the courts. a statute of limitations issue, lasts five years. the government would have to convince the court which have been nice to donald trump, especially the supreme court, to
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postpone the statute of limitations. i don't know if that's gonna happen. they could conceivably refile in four years, i think it's very unlikely. >> and, dave, the statute of limitations is five years in federal and if that's what it is, i mean have there ever been exceptions made to this if it is tradition or standards and practice to do five years as a limit for statute of limitations for federal, that's pretty much, makes this whole thing go away either way. >> there is precedent for what's called tolling the statute of limitations where you postpone it. it has to be a good reason. the reason would be that the department of justice can't file charges while he is a sitting president. on the other hand, that's not a law. that's their internal policy. trump would say there is no law on the books on that. that's their internal policy. don't punishing us for their internal rules. dismissed. that would be a compelling argument. we don't know because we have never been down this road before with a former or current
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president. >> and do you think the incoming trump department of justice could launch, i don't know, investigations into jack smith's work and special counsel practices? >> yes, i expect that is likely to happen. they are going to go down the road of john durham and bill barr. we have been down this road before. i think there is a risk there. you risk blowing up in your face like it did for john durham, quick acquittals, humiliation, creating martyrs. you go after jack smith? he will become a super martyr. look what it did for donald tru. i wouldn't go down that road. if it was matt gaetz as attorney general, think they would have done this. this is pam bondi. less of a revolutionary. >> always a pleasure to see you. >> thank you. still to come, are you flying this holiday weekend? well, a new warning about car thefts at airports around the country. what you could do to protect
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around the country. nbc's emilie ikeda has more from new jersey's newark airport. >> reporter: many travelers are most concerned about picking it through the airport doors and to their thanksgiving travel destination on time. this morning there is growing worries over what they may or may not return to as a rash of car thefts at major airports across the country has officials concerned and empty-handed drivers distraught. as the thanksgiving travel rush kicks into high gear, authorities are warning travelers who are leaving their vehicles behind at airports nationwide to take extra precautions. >> it's extremely easy to steal a car. >> reporter: at the busiest airport in atlanta, police are using motorcycle patrols, added cameras fencing to deter crime after 300 cars were stolen there this year. over three times as many as last year.
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>> suspects can program key fobs to vehicles. >> reporter: reprogramming defox are not just an issue in atlanta. 50 vehicles were at the airport in dallas-fort worth. they targeted in multiple states with authorities arresting the alleged ringleader last month. >> thieves of all kinds and criminals target people at a higher volume in the holidays. >> reporter: in new york city, the port authority chief officer saying it's an organize crime issue. >> high resale value on the vehicles and the fact that they can get them out of the country and sell overseas. >> reporter: returning from work trip, katy and her husband were devastated to find their car missing at the columbus international airport. >> in complete disbelief that we parked attached to an airport and came out and our car was gone.
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we assumed it was safe and secure in that type of environment. >> reporter: police found it abandoned and completely stripped. >> i am hoping that the airports will beef up their security so that we can travel and come back and have your car there. >> reporter: so what can you do to protect your car? >> i have an alarm on my car. make sure it's locked and bring my keys with me. >> reporter: on top of that park in well lit areas and consider additional security measures like a tracking system or a steering wheel lock to steer clear of any unwanted surprises this holiday season. and it's not just luxury brands that thieves are targeting. if you look at data from last year, hyundai and kia models experienced the highest theft rates with hyundai elantra and the kia optima as the top three most stolen cars. back to you. >> emilie ikeda, thank you so much. still to come, a push for peace. what the new ceasefire deal between israel and hezbollah
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welcome back. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with just 54 days until president-elect donald trump becomes president donald trump. overnight, trump named his picks for key roles including the heads of his national economic council and his domestic policy council, as well as the country's top trade official. it comes as the president-elect isn't backing down from his pledge to impose tariffs on canada, mexico and china. in response, mexico's president floated the possibility of mexico enacting retaliatory tariffs of its own. joining us now, nbc's kelly o'donnell, who is in west palm beach, near mar-a-lago, and nbc news chief political analyst chuck todd, and ashley parker, senior national political correspondent at "the washington post." kelly, last night we had another flurry of trump white house picks. who are they? >> reporter: well, good to be with you, jose. and certainly the president-elect is naming a
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combination of people he's worked with before in positions that have been a part of his government that would be kevin hassett, who will be part of the economic team, he was in trump one, jamieson greer, who served as chief of staff to the trade representative in the first term. and in this case now would be holding that position himself if confirmed. and it tells you that in part president-elect trump is trying to in some ways go in areas where he feels familiar and the economy is certainly a big piece of that, where he wants to make ground there because that was so instrumental in the forces behind his campaign, and political environment. and at the same time, he's also bringing on board some controversial or perhaps outside the box picks when it comes to things like dr. jay bhattacharya, selected as the person to head up the national institutes of health, a huge federal bureaucracy that impacts every american's life with all of the ways it influences how
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the public health is administered in this country, a vast organization and he, of course, has been known for having views counter to, for example, dr. fauci, from his long time in public life and in public health. the doctor is from stanford, an economist and physician, not a practicing physician, has held a view about herd immunity in the early days of covid, letting the virus run and to try to create human immunity through a natural process for the young and the healthy. not as much in favor of things like the restrictions that became so politically volatile. certainly his views are not in step with a lot of mainstream medical thought. but he will be a part of changing how federal healthcare is administered, if he's confirmed by the senate, and a part of the imprint that donald trump wants to put on his second term.
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jose? >> and, kelly, looking at some of the candidates that the president-elect put forward as far as economic team, the president-elect's opening salvo on trade, which was essentially threatening tariffs on canada, mexico and china, who do these picks tell us about what to expect from trump on that front? >> well, jamieson greer, who had been the chief of staff to robert lighthizer in the first term would be put forward as the trade representative. his responsibility would be to directly negotiate with other countries and he was instrumental in the tariff regime of the first trump term. and so that is something that you would see directly being a personality and a person with experience to try to enact what donald trump talked about. he said a beautiful word is tariffs during his campaign season, he believes that tariffs are beneficial to american workers, there are others who say it increased costs for the american consumer, if you have a tax on goods coming into the
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united states, it certainly has big implications with relations to friendly countries like mexico and canada, who, of course, share the continent with the u.s. as well as partners and friends around the world, where the president-elect says he wants to use tariffs with an adversary like china, but many others as well to try to balance the economy for american workers. there is a lot of debate on that and someone like jamieson greer would be instrumental in putting forth those policies on behalf of president-elect trump. >> kelly o'donnell, enjoying a perfect day, west palm beach, florida, thank you so much, great seeing you. ashley, after trump said he would enact the new tariffs on canada and mexico, the president of mexico claudia sheinbaum floated the possibility of these retaliatory tariffs. is there any concern within trump world about this? >> well, in one way trump views -- on the one hand as kelly said he views tariffs as a very beautiful word. but he also views it as a point
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of leverage and negotiation and i think back to something jared kushner once told me when in 2016, it seems on its surface crazy and they said, look, we believe that even though this was maybe the wrong decision that it has a benefit for him because it keeps people on their toes and they don't know if he's actually going to do the thing or not. if he's actually going to -- he said he's going to levy the tariffs, maybe using it for leverage, maybe for negotiation, make he backs down when mexico comes in threatening their own tariffs, but they believe as it has with nato and in other areas the fact that trump very well might do the thing he's saying and the fact that he very well might not gives them leverage, because he behaves as such an unpredictable negotiator. >> yeah, i mean, ashley, it is
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probably -- there must be something to the fact that trump during his first administration threatened the president of mexico at the time with tariffs if he didn't do something to -- what mexico ended up doing was putting up the 20,000 troops in the southern border with guatemala and chapas and toward the north as well. he may be thinking, well, with mexico, president sheinbaum, who is a protege of obrador, just the threat of it, it worked the first time, maybe it is going to work this time. >> yeah, that's exactly right. you know, a tariff has real impact, but so does the threat of a tariff. and one downside of tariffs for the american consumer is that oftentimes the cost is not born by those other countries. but it is born in the prices that americans will end up
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paying and that is something that americans have been very clear is unacceptable to them, one of the reasons frankly trump won because inflation and prices had gone up under the biden administration, so there is a world where if he carries through on this threat and that's not even a guarantee he will carry through, but that oftentimes he does something, then there is an outcry from his base and that forces him to re-adjust yet again. that's also another way this could potentially end. >> chuck, how do you see this? again, you know, trump and ashley was talking about unpredictability is something that maybe foreign leaders can expect to be predictable. >> well, look, what the tariff regime allows him to do is it makes him the central force and the central negotiating person on pretty much everything. i mean, you know, not to go all george will on you, but, you know, this has been a century long effort by congress to
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essentially hand power over to the executive branch. this is one of the many powers that they -- that congress handed to the presidency on these tariff regimes, and so it is to go to -- to follow up on what ashley was seeing, like, you know, the feature is forcing a negotiation. the feature isn't the tariff itself, right? that's what trump loves so much about this, it brings people to the table, in many ways it brings people asking for favors for him. he slaps a tariff on and an importer might say, well, hey, not on these goods. what can i do for you, mr. president, that would take this off the tariff list. and you can see suddenly it is a favor here, a favor there. this is why it is potentially a very corruptible part of government, if we're not careful here, and if it is not abused, and i think that is certainly a concern when you talk to the more libertarian-minded economic folks including the folks at the
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cato institute. this is another reason why tariffs potentially are so damaging to the country, because it is so easily corruptible. it becomes part of this back and forth deal-making. and, by the way, just to simplify this, we're talking about tariffs, it is a guacamole tax. we get most avocados in this country come from mexico. and if you enjoy guacamole, be prepared to pay a higher tax for it if these tariffs go through. >> i mean, guacamole is one thing and you're absolutely right. i mean, not only most of the avocados come from mexico, the best ones do come from mexico. so, but it is also, you know, automobiles that we buy in our country, by american companies. many times they are made and assembled in mexico. washing machines, dryers, water heaters, i mean the list is endless. and curious, chuck, i'm just kind of off course a little bit
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of our conversation, but you're talking about the corruption of government. in your latest piece, you describe trump's transition as the destructive politics of, quote, whatever it takes. what do you mean by that? and i'm so fascinated by your analysis of this, because there is and has been a corruption element to government in our nation for the longest time. >> look, it is, you know, you can't sit here and say there has never been corruption in government. it is almost as old as the republic itself. there was a time when the corruption at least benefited constituents. the congressman may take a kickback from a company, but it was a kickback that got them a permit or got them a regulation that allowed them to build in that district. now the corruption is a whole new level, now people go into congress simply to get an account on cameo or something like that. and what i'm saying is that it is when we no longer allow character or moral failings to
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be disqualifying. and when you start to chip away at that and chip away at that and chip away at that and start to believe that politics is so rough and tumble that it is only for the amoral, or it is only for those that have the stomach for it, and a lot of times it is people that have different moral compass than other parts of it -- of the electorate, and it is that chip away. and if you get people who are willing to -- who are willing to essentially not follow a moral compass, say, in their personal life, and you put them in charge of a massive government agency, the possibility of corruptibility only increases and we know this, we know character is king when it comes to these things and i just think, you know, take, you know, a couple of the nominees, no one says that the president shouldn't have somebody who he wants to see reform the pentagon. can't you find somebody who didn't have the place called after they had intimate
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relations with somebody? and that's sort of the point i'm going here, why is it that it is so important to quote, unquote, own the libs that if you agitate the quote, unquote other side or make people uncomfortable with your picks on a character basis, you're winning. and i don't know what you're winning, but i know the country is not winning. >> you know, one of the favorite quotes of mine by -- he said in the world there are no perfect men or women, all humans are composed of merits and sins and likewise there can be no perfect or infallible states or governments. if the conduct of its members merits exceeds sins then justice reigns and if sins exceed merits their reigns corruption. we can always learn from the past and it is one i absolutely refer to all the time. chuck todd and ashley parker, thank you so much. appreciate it. turning now to breaking news overseas, three americans
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detained in china have been released, according to a state department spokesperson. the u.s. official told nbc news that mark swidan, kai li, and john leung will soon return to their families, reuniting after being wrongfully detained for years. up next, celebrations in lebanon now as the cease-fire deal between israel and hezbollah goes into effect. will it hold? they're saying it is permanent. what does that mean? back as home as millions hit the roads for thanksgiving, we're tracking a massive storm system, we'll bring you the latest holiday forecast. and later, a deep dive into why some latinos and immigrants ended up supporting donald trump. we're back in 90 seconds. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ye diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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more human way to healthcare. 15 past the hour. we're following breaking news happening right now in the middle east. the u.s. brokered cease-fire is in effect between israel and hezbollah. you can see people in lebanon displaced by the conflict, celebrating, as so many families are returning now to their homes. the deal reached between israel and lebanon includes the withdrawal of israel's forces from lebanon and the removal of hezbollah fighters from southern lebanon. by 5,000 lebanese troops deployed and force a buffer zone according to a high ranking israeli intelligence official. president biden addressed the deal from the white house
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yesterday. >> what is left of hezbollah and other terrorist organizations will not be allowed. i emphasize, will not be allowed to threaten the security of israel again. over the next 60 days, lebanese army and state security forces will deploy and take control of their own territory once again. hezbollah terrorist infrastructure in southern lebanon will not be allowed to be rebuilt. >> joining us now is nbc's hala gorani from jerusalem, and ambassador elon pincus from new york. what is the reaction there as the cease-fire goes into effect? >> reporter: well, we saw in lebanon tens of thousands of people return home on day one of this cease-fire. the idf is telling residents of the villages of the areas, the parts of lebanon that it had occupied over the last several months not to get to close to some of their positions or they will put themselves and their families in danger. what you're seeing here are
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images of hezbollah supporters, clearly these yellow flags are all hezbollah flags with a big picture of hassan nasrallah there. this is the part of the big migration back to the south, if you will, of all the people who were displaced. now, as you mentioned there in the intro, it is a 60-day phase one period that would involve the gradual withdrawal of the israeli military from the south. hezbollah forces and their equipment are meant to then move north of the litani river, and then thousands of lebanese army troops will be deployed to southern lebanon and they will be sort of in that swath of territory that will be provide a buffer zone between the israeli military south of the border and hezbollah north of the litani river. the defense minister of lebanon, jose, was speaking to arab media today and said that that force of 5,000 would gradually be
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increased to 10,000. the question, of course, is whether or not this will be a long lasting permanent cease-fire as president biden said it was meant to be, and how any violation will be, you know, how any violation might affect the terms of the deal and how israel might respond because it said time and again that it reserves the right to respond to hezbollah violations. >> hala gorani in jerusalem, thank you so very much. ambassador, it is good seeing you. there was a year of back and forth between israel and hezbollah before israel launched that ground invasion in september. clearly the issue, you know, hezbollah took advantage of the 7th of october massacre to a day after start, you know, its own incursions and attacks into israel. how do you see this cease-fire taking place and do you think it could be a permanent one? >> well, before anything, i want
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to compliment you on the quote, i really liked it in the previous segment. no, seriously. back to our topic. look, the cease-fire is circumstantial. it is not born out of good faith or trust, or out of the -- a new analysis or revised analysis of -- it is born out of necessity, which is why it is circumstantial, which is why the agreements in lebanon have been between hezbollah and israel in lebanon, they have never been durable. which is why i think it is very tenuous and very fragile. why do i say this? first of all, everyone keeps on referring to an agreement between israel and lebanon. not really a deal between israel and lebanon, because it is a deal -- indirect deal between israel and hezbollah. and hezbollah is a state within
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a state and that state, the host state, lebanon, is a very dysfunctional and weak state, which leads us to the issue of is this enforceable, can the lebanese army enforce this. let me give you a very simple example. according to the agreement, within 60 days, hezbollah is to vacate and evacuate or withdraw from all its positions in south lebanon, south of the litani river, which is 30 miles north of the israeli border. after which israel will retreat from south lebanon. so there is going to be a cross movement here, hezbollah moving north and israelis moving south. you want to tell me this is going to pass through, you know this is going to go through smoothly without any incident? i doubt that. and then you have laws that both the prime minister netanyahu and indeed president biden last night referred to, and that is that israel retains the right to
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operate militarily when israel deems that hezbollah violated or transgressed the agreement. you know, israel deeming necessary is the matter of interpretation. i don't see this being implemented and enforced in a way that would assure its sustainability. >> you know, it is so interesting because i keep thinking about how you were talking about lebanon and hezbollah in lebanon. indeed, it is going to be difficult to see how the lebanese army is going to be able to enforce any kind of area there. but i keep thinking, when you go from, as i did many years ago, from beirut to balbek, the entire way you're stopped by hezbollah checkpoints and balbek, the whole extraordinarily beautiful area is hezbollah, you know, territory. but the fact that hezbollah has been decimated almost wiped out by israel in this last year, how
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much does that play a factor in the possibility of this thing holding because they're pretty much decimated. >> well, okay, we can argue about decimated because they still have thousands of rockets, they have time to regroup, the agreement does not offer a buffer zone. it does not prevent armed shipments into lebanon, into hezbollah via syria -- from iran via syria to hezbollah. so, yes, they have been militarily degraded, significantly even. and, yes, they need this hiatus more than israel does. which is why i think, jose, the key to both the cease-fire and, you know, if we can venture far into the future and into the next five years of the lebanese landscape and indeed the -- the key is iran, not hezbollah's adherence to the agreement, not the lebanese army's competence
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or incompetence in enforcing it. here's the thing. the iranians have lost hezbollah as a prized asset. you know, there is a principle in iranian foreign policy, the proxies fight for iran. iran doesn't fight for the proxies. hezbollah, because they miscalculated as you alluded to earlier to how they joined the war on october 7th, hezbollah involuntarily dragged the iranian conflict and that hurt the iranian deterrence, which is why the iranians may be more forth coming in engaging the u.s. in a new nuclear deal. one of the levers they can offer is to rein in hezbollah. that leads to a sense of optimism. in terms of how this will play out in lebanon. >> yeah, you know, that's such an important issue that you bring up, ambassador. and, you know, when you have iran who is light motif as a regime is death of israel and
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the destruction of the united states, you know, how that, when that's your light motif as a regime, since 1979, how can you or even can you change that when that's one of your main pillars? ambassador -- >> you can and if it is the actual survival of the regime, then everything else takes a back seat. >> cost benefit analysis. ambassador alon pincus, thank you for your time. up next, a deep dive on president-elect trump's pick to head the nih and his controversial postings during covid. plus, more than 800 flights already canceled or delayed today. why the weather is not the only reason. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. an you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. don't let symptoms define you... emerge as you, with clearer skin. with tremfya®, most people saw 100% clear skin...
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29 past the hour. new reaction this morning after president-elect donald trump made his choice to lead the world's largest public funder of biomedical research. he picked dr. jay bhattacharya to oversee the national institutes of health. he's a stanford university researcher who supported herd immunity during the covid pandemic and challenged lockdowns and mask mandates. if confirmed, he would oversee a $48 billion budget, more than 18,000 employees and 27 separate
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institutes and centers that focus on different diseases like cancer and diabetes. with us now is dr. kavita patel, former obama white house policy director and msnbc contributor. good to see you, doctor. what do you make of donald trump's pick to head the national institutes of health? >> dr. bhattacharya is obviously -- to be a professor at stanford is no small accomplishment. he has a track record, economics, research. the critical place, jose, is can he handle the mandate of this institute in light, especially, of these very controversial stances and comments around public health at a time when, let's face it, the world doesn't have faith in public health and science and eroding that trust can be devastating to the research community. >> that trust in public health, some would say, is precisely because of the lack of open discourse and research that was in many times not available.
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>> right. that's right. and i do think that there is people have written books and will continue to write books on what we could have done better, not just during covid, but in general with public health communication. but i think one thing is clear, what i'm looking for in an nih director, when i worked for ted kennedy, which is what we did, we looked for nominations of directors, leadership skills, the ability to bring literally the world's largest research institution to continue that trajectory, to continue that trust, and, remember, it is largely a lot about management and that's something i don't think i've seen evidence of, where does this organizational leadership management track record come into play and how will he write bring the skills organization where he has directors, people that are at the top of their talent, but it is about leadership and helping them do their best job, not about you. a lot of the candidates has been about them, their social media profiles, their comments, their appearances, and the litmus test
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with rfk jr., it is disturbing if everything gets indexed against rfk's views as a secretary of hhs or in essence the nih's boss, even though it is an independent agency. >> yeah, and if you would, dr. patel, because you've been so intricately involved in different aspects of this over your career, how massive is the nih? how massive and how, you know, influential it is. >> yeah. absolutely. look, not all research goes on inside of the nih. the majority of the world's research goes on outside of the nih. what the nih does, not just by its existence, but the way they think about grants, the researchers they fund in and outside of the nih, it sets the tone for where biomedical innovation can go. when we think about cures, when i think about how i started as a medical student and what i could do for a late stage lung cancer patient and what i can do today, that game changing research
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38 past the hour. this morning, the thanksgiving travel rush is in full gear with a record number of people hitting the airports and highways. but coast to coast, storms strike and staff shortages could complicate those plans. joining us now, nbc's priscilla thompson, and nbc meteorologist bill karins. air traffic control shortages in the new york area are creating delays, are they impacting things where you are? >> reporter: good news for
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people flying out of houston. it is not impacting operations here, where, of course, we're seeing the security lines, which is to be expected during the holiday, especially today, one of the busiest days to fly, with the tsa expecting 3 million passengers but the lines are moving quickly. that's good news for people flying out of houston. it is not the case everywhere, particularly in new york, really impacted by the lack of air traffic controllers, not having enough of those folks. so right now there is about a 95 minute ground delay in new york as a result of some of those issues. we have seen officials trying to push some of that traffic toward philadelphia to have them manage the air traffic there, so they can try to get things moving there, but it is a result of what's going on. united airlines has a huge hub in new york and they're saying this is impacting about 28,000 passengers a day. so you can imagine what folks there are dealing with. and then on top of that, you have the concerns about the
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weather. we know that officials are opening up additional air space, military air space along the east coast and florida and also stopping rocket launches to really try to get folks going where they need to in time for their thanksgiving holiday. but certainly a lot of things going on, right now, minimal cancellations, there are some delays across the country, but things are still moving so far. jose? >> great news, priscilla, thank you very much. bill, how is the forecast looking for this extended holiday? >> yeah, it is about to get pretty dicey. we're watching the storm heading out of the rockies into the plains. this is rain and some snow. temperatures are warming up, the snow is melting. all of this mess tonight is heading for the northeast. so during the day today, rain is going to develop into the ohio valley, maybe some isolated delays on the roads and airports, chicago, detroit, indianapolis, columbus, heading down to areas around st. louis. as we go throughout tomorrow we see more travel impacts, denver was one of the only airports we were ied about, snow, an and
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excellent job there. maybe south of chicago, isolated problems. here is the big story. tomorrow morning, everybody is going to wake up on the east coast to rain. some areas will be pouring, d.c. to philly to new york. it gets better during the day. the storm sped up a little bit. we think as we go throughout the afternoon and evening, the conditions will be improving on the i-95 corridor and the southeast. not the areas for the case of central new england. central new england and northern new england, the snow forecast is going up, this is the heavy wet snow. we have a chance of people losing power on thanksgiving too. that's not going to be fun. that means the line crews have to get called in and you may have to go through thanksgiving at your house. the catskills i adirondacks, white and green mountains here and isolated valley areas will get heavy wet snow too. that's something we keep an eye on as we go throughout the day. we have the rain in the forecast for the parade too. winds won't be a problem but temperatures in the 40s and
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steady rain, hopefully by the end of the parade, the rain should be ending. and behind all of this, we get some air straight from siberia, across the arctic comes down through canada, in for a very cold beginning of december for a good chunk of the country, and some of the cold air all the way down to areas of florida. around jacksonville, talking about a chance of getting down to the low 30s, the first freeze of the season. so, that will be the story as we go throughout the weekend to next week. we get through the storm tomorrow in the northeast. i don't like the idea of power outages on thanksgiving day for anyone. >> yeah. yeah. you hope the best for everybody up there. hopefully don't get too, you know, affected by it. south florida, these are the days to be here. it is like 80 something degrees, no humidity, i haven't seen a mosquito in three days. i don't know, it is like perfection. >> you're like my dad. my dad is in phoenix. he calls me all winter long, tells me how great it is. but he never calls whensummer.
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it is interesting. >> great to see you. thank you. appreciate it. up next, new reporting about why some documented and undocumented immigrants who have been living here for years say they are resentful of those across the border recently. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. it cuts through the slimy stuff better than their old dish soap, removing 99% of grease. that's why only dawn is trusted to save wildlife. liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. with the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. oh! right in the temporal lobe! beat it, punks! only pay for what you need.
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48 past the hour. new insight today about the role latino voters had in the election of donald trump. propublica reports that latino support for trump may have been driven in part by latino immigrants, many of whom have been in the u.s. for decades. as propublica reported, over and over again, they spoke of feeling resentment as they watched the government ease the transition of large numbers of asylum seekers into the u.s. by giving access to work permits, i.d.s, and in some cities spending millions of dollars to provide them with food and shelter. with us now is melissa sanchez, one of the propublica journalists behind that reporting and former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo. you spoke with dozens of long time immigrants, undocumented immigrants and legal immigrants in the midwest and along the texas border. how deep is that frustration? >> you know, almost everybody
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that i spoke with in my reporting and in my personal life, i live here in chicago, who is latino, whose parents are immigrants or immigrants themselves either expressed this resentment or have relatives who feel this way. so, i think it is pretty overwhelming. it is not the driving force for every single person i talk to in terms of who they ultimately decided to vote for, but i think it is something that everybody is very intimately familiar with, this feeling of this new group of people got something that we didn't get when we got here. >> you know, for so many it is something that we have been hearing for the longest time, the feeling that, well, we're here, we have been here, many for decades, we have, you know, many u.s. born children, we don't have access to a work permit, we don't have access to come out from under the shadows and yet, melissa, they see
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others are given so many of those privileges. are you surprised at the fact that your article, which highlights something so obvious for many, for others seems like such a surprise? >> you know, i'm glad you asked that. i think about that a lot. when i talk to people who look like me, who look like us, then it is not a surprise. but you talk to white folks and they are really surprised, a lot of democrats, a lot of liberals feel this way. i think you just have to go outside and talk to an immigrant, though. i think it does speak to a bit of a disconnect between kind of like what the party rhetoric is and what people on the ground are saying. and i'm talking to people who are immigrants almost every day. so it is not a surprise, but i think a lot of people are just completely out of touch with what regular folks are saying. >> yeah. it is so, so clear. this program, this one, on msnbc, has been talking forever
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about this issue. the difference between immigration and recent migration, the lack of understanding that there are really two different things, in so many ways, two different worlds, how do immigrants see trump's promise of the largest deportation operation in u.s. history regardless of where they stand on the differences between immigration and migrants? >> well, jose, i think for a long time there was a general tolerance for irregular immigration in the country, and obviously latino communities perhaps had an even greater tolerance than more mainstream communities. however, i think what was different this time is, number one, the volume and we have seen those images of so many people crossing the border, people really felt overwhelmed by those images, and then number two, you all just discussed this issue of the benefits programs. i really do get a sense that
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those who came perhaps decades ago, even if they came through an irregular process felt that these days the benefits are just too many. i even hear this in asylum, in exile communities, like the cuban-american community, where people say, well, you know, the benefits are just too generous now. people are coming to the country and want to work hard and struggle like we did, you know, we can understand that. but the generous benefits programs, the accommodations, i think, at a time of high inflation that really caused a lot of tension and opposition to illegal immigration to emerge and to grow. >> yeah, melissa, and, you know, it is just so clear when you listen to people, and it is just the fact that, you know, what you were saying earlier about why have they not been listened to before? they're listened to by all of us
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because we're part of a community that has those kinds of realities, but i'm just wondering, those people that have been here for many years, that feel and actually have been in many ways vetted, right, because they're here, they pay, they participate in as much as they can, how do they see trump's speaking of the largest deportation force in history, how did they see that and do you think they see that affecting them? >> yes, so i asked people this, and over and over what i hear from folks is that they don't think trump is talking about them. they think that people who have been here for a long time, who have been working quietly, who don't have criminal records, will not be touched, even though trump promises mass s. they also have heard in trump's rhetoric this intention to the newer arrivals, the so-called
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biden migrants and so i think they're thinking whatever trump does will affect newer folks and not them. >> melissa sanchez, thank you for being with us and thank you for that article. carlos curbelo, thank you as always. we're following breaking news, president-elect trump's team says his picks for his next administration are being targeted. what we're learning next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. nt you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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♪♪ 56 past the hour. back with breaking news. moments ago trump transition spokeswoman said several of trump's cabinet picks were targeted in a series of threats ranging from bomb threats to swatting. back with us from west palm beach is kelly o'donnell. what more do we know? >> reporter: it is an indication of of a volatile political environment we are in, people
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associated with president-elect trump and his team have in some way been targeted according to the transition. what they are saying is that a number of people, they are not naming names, but people who have been selected by president-elect trump to work alongside him or in his administration come january have been targeted for some kind of threat. so far, based on what we have been able to find out, there has not been any actual threat, meaning any actual concern about any potential harm to these people, but, obviously, fear is a tool. so, federal investigators will be responding to this. local law enforcement will be responding to this. the campaign is limiting, now the transition limiting what they are saying about this, but also wanting to make it known that this kind of a threat environment exists. obviously, this comes in a long political season where former president trump was the subject of two attempts on his life, and
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now we see that after the election and with his coming administration people attached to him are the subject of potential doxing or attacks being adescribed to their home or their residence or office, that kind of thing. we don't have the particulars yet because the trump transition is not giving the specifics. that, of course, is in part for their safety as well as an investigation underway. we have seen this kind of hoax activity in the past and law enforcement has been able to work through its understanding of computer systems and so forth and all of their investigative tools to identify suspects in unrelated cases, and certainly there will be present of work to do this holiday week to try to address this instance, which, as we understand it, happened in the last 24 hours or so. jose. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you so very much. and before we go, a special
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out-of-this-world thanksgiving message. >> greetings from the international space station. our crew up here just wanted to say happy thanksgiving to all of our friends and family who are town on and everyone who is supporting us. >> so much to be thankful for in this season to be reminded of that, to have a holiday that celebrates that, that's something to be thankful for as well. and so from all of us on the international space station, happy thanksgiving! >> and that's the expedition crew the international space station, butch, sunny williams, expected to be in space for eight days but stranded there and now there for five months, hoping to return to earth by february. the crew also shared a look at their thanksgiving meal, which includes smoked turkey and brussels sprouts. and that wraps up this hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. i want to wish you all a very happy thanksgiving. i find it a privilege to be able to have time with all of you. andrea mitchell picks up with

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