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answer. get started. 51 days with just over seven weeks until he's all in grated again as president of the united states. donald trump is going full throttle on his mass deportation plan that not only threatens to destroy millions of families, but potentially upend the american economy, too. plus, fragile peace. while the shaky cease-fire agreement in lebanon between israel and hezbollah continues to hold, big questions remain about whether the lebanese army will maintain it by keeping hezbollah militants along the border at bay. then, shopping small. why you should shop at mom and pop businesses this is small business saturday and help local businesses fight the good fight against the big box giants. and later, talking tariffs. the real dollar danger of trump's proposed tariffs on imported goods could pose to your pocketbook. all of that and more coming up.

with 51 days until inauguration day and his matsch are cabinet picks in place president-elect donald trump is already working to fulfill some of this campaign promises. on tariffs, last night pennsylvania senator-elect dave mccormick shared this photo of canadian prime minister justin trudeau in florida breaking bread with trump at mar-a-lago. it comes after earlier this week donald trump took to social media to threaten to impose new 25% tariffs on imports from both mexico and canada claiming the move is parton after effort to crack down on inlittle immigration and drugs. meanwhile, when it comes to immigration, it was a case of he said/she said with the president of mexico. after a phone call on wednesday, donald trump claimed that president claudia sheinbaum

agreed to stop illegal crossings into the united states from mexico, but president sheinbaum tells a different story. in a state posted to x said in part "mexico's position is not to close border -- not to close border but instead build bridges between government and people." a face-to-face meeting and a misunderstanding over the phone. the councedown is on to day one of trump 2.0. joining me now, nbc news be white house correspondent allie raffa. what more do we know about this meeting, this dinner between donald trump and justin trudeau? >> reporter: yeah, jonathan good to be with you. we don't know too much more. asking the trump transition team for a readout of this meeting, this conversation, that took place between prime minister justin trudeau and president-elect donald trump and haven't received that, but if you're going off of the comments we heard from trudeau as he was

leaving his palm beach hotel this morning, it does seem like some positive progress was made in this meeting. take a listen to those comments here. >> was it a productive meeting with -- >> a positive conversation. >> reporter: this trip did come as somewhat of a shock to the people here on the ground in florida, but canadian media is reporting that it was canadian official whose had been urging the crump team to to these meetings between trump and trudeau. multiple times the past few days, saying he would have future conversations with trump about this proposal to impose a 25% tariff on canadian and mexican goods. upon taking office on day one of taking office. unless mexico and canada came up with a plan to curb the flow of migrants as well as drugs across

their borders and into the united states. we heard trudeau also warn, if these tariffs do actually happen that this would have an impact not just on canadian's economically, also americans, as canada and mexico are some of the top providers of goods to the u.s. so there's been a lot of scrutiny of this proposal. we heard president biden yesterday while he was in nantucket for the thanksgiving holiday, he said that he hopes trump will reconsider this plan that he called "unproductive." it also puts doubts into the future of that trade agreement between the united states, canada and mexico, that trump for a large part helped broker during his first term. so a lot still to see whether these tariffs actually happen, but the leaders of canada and mexico both say they have a plan if and when that does happen. of course, jonathan, we have to wait and see on day one of trump taking office whether this actually does happen.

>> yes. this is a big deal, because canada and mexico are the united states' top two trading partners. allie raffa, thank you for that report. turning now, democratic congressman, a member of the house judiciary and budget committees. congresswoman, great to see you. donald trump this week announced his plan to place 25% tariffs on both mexico and canada and 10% on china. mexico says the tariffs could kill 400,000 u.s. jobs. what do you think about this plan? >> i think it is going to hurt americans deeply. i think if he goes through with the plan it's going to hurt american consumers, of course. most especially people on fixed incomes. you have the u.s. chamber of commerce saying it will increase costs for the average family in america by about $1,000. you've got the folks within the steel industry and the textile industry here in the united states saying this would be absolutely devastating for industries, and so it's a

terrible idea. it's been a terrible idea. we do not want a trade war with our closest trading partners. >> you know, switching gears. on fox news last night incoming white house deputy chief of staff for policy steven miller gave a preview what trump's mass deportation plan might look like. listen. >> he's going to use the state department, the military, the justice department and every other department of government to fully seal that border shut and ensure all threats to the safety, security and survival of america are repatriated back to their home countries. under budget reconciliation, congress can fully fund president trump's border priorities with republican-only votes. if democrats care even a little bit about our national sovereignty they can vote for it, too, but we only need republican votes to pass that package and ensure every single thing we discussed tonight can happen immediately, fully and

totally. >> so congresswoman, will donald trump be able to get his policies through without democratic votes? >> look, the difference here, this is what i want people to understand. when you had trump elected in the first term, 2016, he had a much larger group of republicans in the house who were willing to work with him. he has an even slim are majority in this congress than republicans had in the last congress. so there is no red wave mandate within the house of representatives. it's going to be incredibly difficult for him especially under a very inexperienced speaker to have everyone fall in line. now, that being said, back to what we talked about before. talking about mass deportation. you're talking about crippling our agricultural economy in this country and i saw in the last week you had some of the folks

within the farm -- the work of farm labors across the country talking about literally food will not get picked. in vermont, milk will not get -- you know, produced, and so -- basic, fundamental platforms of our economy things that are holding up our economy are the things he's going after with tariffs and plans for mass deportation. i just don't think once this goes into effect that americans are going to be happy with these policies. >> right. because those areas you're talking about, not going to hit blue states. they're going to hit blue and red states. mostly red states. congresswoman, as a member of the house budget committee i would love your thoughts on russell vought. trump's pick for director of the office of management and budget. a position he had in trump's first term especially since he wrote the chapter in project 2025 that lays out how omb could

help consolidate trump's executive power. >> right. i want to remind folks, he was one of those folks that even a few months ago trump said through his team that they would not have any folks who had drafted project 2025 in their government. they said that that was too much of a third rail. now we see a half of duz ozen fs instrumental in writing project 2025 being tapped. so, yes. this is somebody who would like to see tens of thousands of our civil sevens. non-partisan civil servants lose their job replacing them with trump loyalists. we see that in the cabinet. we see that in picks for other agency heads, and we see that in their push for replacing civil servants with trump lackees and folks who will do the bidding of the president and not follow the

constitution or have the american people in mind. it's chilling, and this is something that we on the budget committee are absolutely going to stay very focused on in this upcoming administration, less than minute left. you are on the budget committee. this question is pertinent. congress is back in session tuesday and y'all will only have 16 working days to avoid government shutdown december 20th. do you think speaker johnson will succeed getting yet your cr passed to extend the budget into the new congress sworn in on january 3rd? >> seems to be the only thing he is capable of doing. i say the 118th republican conference could not govern itself out a paper bag, and so, yes. we passed crs before. this is basically one of the lowest functions that we have to perform that we're going to keep government open. i anticipate we will. will it be at the 11th hour? probably. because we don't see a lot of

competence. >> right. i was going to say. that's the way of congress, last minute. like, like a journalist. vermont congresswoman, thank you very much for coming to "the katie phang show." >> happy to see you. and still to come on "the katie phang show" justice deferred. donald trump's january 6th election interference case is coming to an end diving into jack smith's surprising legal maneuver that might actually keep the case i live in the long term. first, shaky ground. the war between israel and hezbollah and what it could mean for israel's ongoing war with hamas which is playing out in gaza. playing out in gaza. through 99% of grease and grime in half the time. yeah, it absorbs grease five times faster. even replaces multiple cleaning products. ooh, those suds got game. dawn powerwash. the better grease getter. emergen-c crystals pop and fizz when you throw them back. and who doesn't love a good throwback? ♪♪

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now to the middle east and the fragile cease-fire in lebanon both israel and hezbollah accusing each other of violating the terms of the truce. just today the idf bombed military sites. it says hezbollah was using to

smuggle weapons from syria into lebanon after the agreement had been reached. despited sporadic violence the cease-fire appears to be largely holding for now. joining me, retired lieutenant general, former deputy commander of the united states european command and msnbc military analyst. general, great to see you. the lebanese army is responsible for controlling the buffer reachen between the israeli border and the line beyond which hezbollah is supposed to withdraw. the army has been in this position before in 2006 after the wash, the last war between israel and hezbollah and didn't perform well. do you believe that the lebanese army is up to the task this time? >> good to be with you, jonathan. as you stated, we've seen this movie before some, cautiously optimistic this will work. the lebanese army is currently

up, mostly up north right now so they'll have to move down south to enforce, southlatani river and the border between israel and lebanon. also, we cannot forget about the u.n. peacekeeping force that came in under u.n. resolution 1701 back in 2006. they will also be responsible for patrolling as well. if those two elements do their jobs, and their jobs are to ensure that, number one, that hezbollah a disarmed in the south, and number two, they do not take root back in the south and enable them to fire back on israel with rockets, artillery and other things of that nature. if they can do those type

things, then i think we will be in a good position. and, oh, by the way. we cannot forget about the northern corridor. the rockets come from iran. they come through iraq, and they come through syria, and make their way down to lebanon. that corridor needs to be closed and policed as well by the lebanese army and the lebanese government. so -- again -- cautiously optimistic. we'll see. >> uh-huh. general twitty, the idf is still, still, carrying out strikes in lebanon. at what point would you say the truce has been broken? >> well, i think what is going on here. first of all, 60 days, they have 60 days and then have to move back to israel. but israel has made clear. you violate one inch of this cease-fire agreement, we have the right to strike back. and so if hezbollah continues to

do things like go to their rocket sites or move south, then israel has the right to fire, and i don't think israel's going to play around with this, and so it's in the best interests of hezbollah. they've been severely beaten at this point, to move north and adhere to the cease-fire agreement. >> you mentioned iran before, and iran is hezbollah's backer, and iran is moderated its tone of late sending representatives to meetings in europe and with first buddy elon musk. what do you make of this? >> well, what i make of it is, iran does not want a direct fight with israel, and they certainly do not want a confrontation with the u.s. and, again, it's in iran's best interests, to tap down on the rhetoric. if you noticed, they did not conduct a retaliatory strike

after israel's strike. so i believe that they're coming to their senses, and understand that they are on the losing side of this. we must remember, hezbollah seriously beaten, gaza and the gaza strip seriously defeated by israel as well. so overall, iran is losing this proxy. >> general twitty, we have a split screen in the middle east. this tenuous truce in lebanon and renewed vile innocence syria with rebels invading aleppo and facing little resistance according to a war monitoring group. are you concerned we're watching resumption of that awful civil war? >> yes, i am. and, oh, by the way, they've been in civil war for about 13 years now. and so the war has not gotten much press, but they've been at war for quite some time. and it was pretty interesting to

see the militants and resurgeants take aleppo. aleppo has been shored up by russia and iran, with iran and russian assistance. so willing to take a lightning surge like this and go into aleppo, i think it shocked the syrian government, and i think now these insurgents are emboldened and they will continue. >> hmm. lieutenant general steph twitty. great to see you. thank you for coming to "the katie phang show." >> thanks. and coming up after the break, above the law. after netting two dismissed federal cases and a blank check on immunity from the supreme court, will donald trump ever face legal accountability, and what does that mean for the rest of us when it comes to the rule of law? that's next.

justice key laid is justice denied and president-elect donald trump effectively run out the clock on the major legal cases he faced. as he prepares for another white house term, they are fading away. earlier this week special counsel jack smith moved to dismiss both federal criminal prosecutions against trump and trump's lawyering are calling on new york attorney general letitia james to drop her civil fraud case against him as well. trump owes the state of new york more than $450 million in damages after a judge in february found help was liable for manipulating his net worth to defraud banks and insurers. that judgment is currently being appealed. joining me now, executive director for constitutional advocacy and protection at georgetown law and former acting assistant attorney general for national security at the department of justice. mary, great to see you. with regard to the new york case, an attorney for trump

released a statement that read in part, "president trump has called for our nation's partisan strife to end, and for the contending factions to join forces for the greater good of the country." mary, greater good -- of the country? or for donald trump? >> well, i think it's clear when we talk about that civil case brought by the new york attorney general who brought it really for the greater good of the people of new york, it is a bit ironic to hear talking about dismacing that case as part of great et good for america at large. i appreciate we're in a polarized situation in the u.s. and people have different feelings about not only the civil cases against donald trump but also the criminal cases against donald trump. but that case, letitia james' case it is through the trial it is through the judgment. there are appeals pending. certainly donald trump like any other litigant has a trite due

process and a right to take appeals but this is not a matter of bringing a case during a presidency that might be distracting to him during his presidency and also not a case about anything he did as part of his presidency, as part of his official acts as president. this is very far removed from some of the other cases, including the january 6th related prosecution, which as we know dismissed by jack smith, but did relate at least in part to things, well, wholly in part to things donald trump did while in office. this is all about, you know, a business fraud done in his private capacity. so i don't think that the argument about needing to dismiss that case for the public, benefit of the public writ large really holds up. >> and glad you brought that up, because i was reading that and thinking, wait. the judge has already rendered a decision. it's like, there's nothing to pull back. you're in the appeals process.

let the system -- the system will work itself out. you mentioned special counsel jack smith's two cases, and his having them dismissed. i just am wondering, leaving open the possibility that they could be reinstated once trump is no longer in the white house, do you expect those charges to be reinstated when trump leaves the office? and do you expect trump to pardon the people still involved with those cases? >> right. so just to clear things up. as you indicated. two different cases. the january 6th related prosecution at this point brought only against donald trump, although there were unindicted co-conspirators involved and it could be they might still be prosecuted at some future time. with respect to donald trump, right. jack smith moved to have the case dismissed without prejudice. judge chutkan granted that. it could be brought after donald trump is no longer president

because olc office, office of legal counsel department of justice binding on jack smith requiring him to move to dismiss the case and only provides a temporary immunity while a president is a sitting president. now, that does not mean there wouldn't be issues involving, like, the statute of limitations. if a future department of justice after mr. trump is no longer in the white house were to rebring that case, no doubt, mr. trump's attorneys would argue the statute of limitations expired. there is legal argument when prosecution had to be ended dismissed while donald trump was president, a legal argument that statute of limitations should be paused while mr. trump is in the presidency and could be rebrought later nap would be subject to litigation. do i think that would happen? in the similar issues i would say, also take place with respect to the mar-a-lago prosecution involving

mishandling of classified documents. whether that happens or not depends on many, many things. depends in ways on mr. trump's conduct throughout this coming term in office. what other things might happen during this four years and, of course, who the next president is after this term. so i'm not in a position of really speculating on that and can only say the door is left open. you also ask about the two other co-deserts in the mar-a-lago case. that case was charged against donald trump and walt nauta and another defendant. the appeal remains pending. the case dismissed by judge cannon on the grounds special counsel was not appropriately appointed under the constitution. the government appealed that decision and what the government dismissed was the appeal as to donald trump only. so the appeal with respect to walt nauta and carlos de oliveira remains assuming that

goes to arguments in the 11th circuit and the 11th circuit reverses, many expect it would, the case goes back to judge cannon and once the president is president and they could at that point, if they wish to, move to dismiss against those co-defendants, or as you indicated, donald trump could issue pardons. >> one more question. trump decried we all know what he calls political manipulations of the justice department, but listen to his former adviser steve bannon what he said earlier this week. >> you're not going to hide beyond your cloaks. we're coming for you, too. you are corrupt. what you allowed to happen in that d.c. courtroom and what you allowed to do to these people and september them to prison, cheney, corrupt. preserve your documents, because we're coming after you. damon williams and jack smith you can quit, run, andrew

weissmann, run wherever you're going to run. the long arm of the law is going to track you down and you're going to be held accountable. >> mary, i don't another about you but that sounds like retribution to me. is what -- is what steve bannon is proposing there, is that even legal? and even if it isn't, can anything be done, if they do move forward with those threats? >> you can't bring a prosecution for a criminal offense if there is no probable cause that a criminal offense has been committed. i have seen absolutely nothing that any prosecutor has done, jack smith, or the state prosecutors, any member of the congress have done with respect to their participation on the house select committee that investigated january 6th, that would be people like congress member bennie thompson and former congress member liz cheney. nothing out there in the record that suggests probable cause for any prosecution. so i do think first of all, steve bannon doesn't deal with any of that.

he doesn't deal with legal requirements what the constitution requires, what the law requires but also i think it's one thing to talk about retribution. it's a whole other thing to have the department of justice that is made up primarily of career men and women, attorneys, prosecutors, civil attorneys, who do believe in the rule of law who do follow the constitution and statutory law and internal guidance and i think would pub back and refuse to engage in sham investigations. it may that donald trump has immunity fri prosecution for official acts given the supreme court's immunity ruling this summer but that does not apply to the men and women of the department of justice, and it takes a lot of people to engage in any type of political retribution. i do not expect that to actually be successful. >> mary mccord, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. next, shopping small. how local businesses are competing with big box giants on

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black friday this week another idea for you. today, think small. today is small business saturday a chance for americans across the country to support their local mom and pop shops. while these main street businesses are small, their impacts are not. according to the u.s. chamber of commerce, there are more than 33 million small businesses in the united states, that account for trillions of dollars of economic activity. joining me now, nbc news digital reporter. president biden posting this morning 20 million new business applications since he took office. how are businesses on main street doing right now?

>> jonathan, i think businesses on main street are doing generally okay much like the rest of us. we know consumer spending is slowing down this year due to inflation and rising cost of living. look at last year's numbers. in 2023 americans spent $17 billion on small businesses alone, and the u.s. chamber of commerce has predictions for this year. 50% of shoppers plan to prioritize small business saturday over lack friday and cyber monday, and 30% of gen zers participating in small business saturday. we know also that despite 23% of consumers indicating they're going to spend less, 82% of small businesses anticipate maintaining or increasing their holiday shopping revenue in this year compared to last year. so this microholiday was actually started in 2010 and really serves as a reminder to us to stand behind those local

shops and stores in our own communities and re-energize some of that support behind them so we can be supporting our communities. jonathan? >> maya you spoke with locally-owned toy stores. how are they faring? >> i visited in long island and east village, they absolutely love their jobs opinion sjobs. these toy store owners get joy from helping folk s and bringin smiles to children. not easy. merchandise, social media and coming out of pocket during slow seasons to stay afloat. a bit of my conversation with susan hay a toy store owner several decades. take a listen. >> it's my life. it's my labor of love. when i first went into business somebody told me most small businesses end in a year. and i thought, i'm going to

stick it out for five years. so, and that was 50 years ago. it's really difficult in today's day to work against the big box stores. so the fact you're coming in to a little ma and ma store you're supporting their families. ma and pa. >> reporter: i spoke with some of her customers and support her all year long because of memories of their own kids growing up in those stories or them themselves customers throughout their childhood and now adulthood bringing in their own children. it really is a full-circle community support not just today but year round susan says keeps her business afloat. >> i love she said do it five years and that was 50 years ago! maya what tips do you have for shopping and supporting local businesses? >> reporter: a few tips. when looking for a specific item and using a search engine like yelp or google maps keep an eye out for labels and stickers that

sea locally owned or small owned business. if you're a small business owner yourself you can also claim a website page if you haven't already to make sure that that sticker is showing up for other people. the other thing i recommend, too, checking out crafting websites to support independent artists for this holiday season. really great, creative, unique gifts. sites like etsy or indie made allow you to buy one of a kind gifts where you don't have to go to some of the big brand name stores all the time to really make an impact for a special gift for someone. jonathan? >> maya, one floor below me. next time, right here on set! thank you very much. >> i'll be up there. >> thanks very much for that great report. after the break, trickle-down tariffs, what donald trump's sweeping tariff plan means for rising prices and your wallet. you're watching "the katie phang show" on msnbc.

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the united states of america was founded off the back of a protest import taxes. the -- the british parliament wanted to put a 3% tariff, in effect, import tax on tea, and in boston they were so, so irate about this import tariff being placed on them they threw the tea into the sea in the harbor and started a revolution! and now we're at the state where the president of the united states wants to impose taxes not just on tea, but on everything else! >> indignity. no taxation without representation. ring a bell? the straw that broke the camel's back. the rallying cry for the american colonist to break away from great britain establishing their own government, and now according to the president-elect, well -- >> the word tariff properly used is a beautiful word.

one of the most beautiful words i've ever heard. >> you're not doing business with the united states because we're going to put 100% tariff on your goods. >> putting a 200% tariff, which means -- >> you go to war with another country that's friendly to us or even not friendly to us, you're not going to do wis in the united states and we're going to charge you 100% tariffs. >> tariffs of the greatest thing ever invented. >> so which is it? the start of a revolution? or the greatest thing ever invented? to answer that question, my "washington post" colleague david lynch global business correspondent for the "post" joins me now. david, so, first -- what exactly is a tariff? >> it's very simple, jonathan. a tariff is simply another word forea tax. if president-elect trump follows through with his plans, and puts a 25% tariff on goods coming in

from mexico and canada, that will increase the cost of those goods to their american importers by 25%. just like any other tax would. >> so other than an estimated $2,600 increase in prices her household. a full screen of some things here. a pair of jeans before tariffs, $80. $96 after the tariffs. a car $50,000. $62,500 after the tariffs from the consumer technology association. other than that, the immediate hit to the wallet what are the potential long-term consequences of these proposed tariffs? >> in the long term, it would make the economy less efficient. it would raise costs. it would basically be like throwing sand in the gears of

the economic engine that we operate now. it would make the total size of our economy, our total gross domestic product, smaller than it otherwise might be. now, i should say this is the conventional or main-stream economic view of the impact of tariffs. president-elect trump has a different view. always has had. he believes, or professes to believe, that the tariffs are paid exclusively by foreign countries. that's not the case. but that is what his, his sales pitch for promoting the use of tariffs which he believes among other things would promote greater domestic production at the expense of imports. >> you know, scott bessent, trump's pick for treasury secretary said this about tariffs earlier this month. listen. >> my view and i don't have a say now yet or maybe ever, but

it's that the, i would recommend that tariffs be layered in gradually, which would -- the price adjustment would be over a period of time. >> now, he said this before he became the treasury secretary pick. now, since trump is insisting on tariffs, is what he proposed, proposes a more reasonable approach to a bad idea? >> bessent will be one of the important voices around the table, and certainly phasing in the tariffs would make the impact less immediate, less harsh initially, but if the end point were still to be the same 25%, you would get to that same destination over time. i do think it's important to keep in mind, though, that it's

likely that what president-elect trump has in mind is a negotiation, particularly with our north american trading partners. he's trying to get concessions from mexico and from canada on his other policy priorities. illegal immigration. drug trafficking, and he's using his favorite weapon, and naturally he calls himself "tariff man" as he said in one of the clips, you so, tariff to him it's a beautiful word and it is his favorite tool. he's trying to use this economic weapon to secure a non-economic policy concession. >> sews you sort of are alluding to. trump negotiated the united states-mexico-canada agreement in his first term. now he seems to be hell-bent on violating it. so what are potential consequences of that? >> well, if these tariffs were to actually be imposed, and i,

again, have to stress i think that's a big "if." a lot can happen between now and january 20th. and even if once imposed they could be lifted as soon as he gets the policy concessions that he says he wants, but if they were to take effect and remain in effect for some protracted period, it would be enormously disruptive to the supply chains that have grown up over decades here in north america. particularly for the auto industry, which operates in north america. the united states, canada and mexico. >> ooh. >> operates with one seamless market. >> right. >> and to make it expensive to take the cost of moving parts across those borders from zero to 25% would really escalate the cost of the cars in our showrooms here in the united states. >> david lynch of the "washington post."

thank you very much for coming to "the katie phang show." tune in tonight for the "saturday show" speaking with governor of hawaii josh green. what's at stake with rfk in charge of your health care. tonight at 6:00 p.m. on "the saturday show" only on msnbc. that does it for me this hour. thank you all for joining us today. katie will be back in the anchor chair next saturday, noon eastern. follow the show on social media using the handle @katiephang show and watch clips on youtube. don't go anywhere. msnbc reports with alex witt is next.

>> very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with 51 days to go until inauguration when donald trump takes control of the white house and in a surprise