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reports. prime weekend is next. >> [ music ] i've got to use some just in case i start kissing her. i am automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. and when you are a star, they let you do it, you can do anything could >> donald trump win in 2016 came just weeks after that video went public for the very first time, and send a strong signal across the country. sexual assault was not disqualified, was no longer a political redline, it was something that politically speaking, could be minimized, even joked about by the accused 's own spouse as locker room

talk. now, eight years later, the same signal is being amplified, projected out into this country. this time, trump himself is now an adjudicated sexual abuser, and his cabinet picks. donald trump's pics to head the department of defense, hhs, and its first pick for attorney general all have sexual assault allegations levied against them. and his choice to run the education department has been seated for enabling sexual assault. overall, these choices donald trump has made and his decision to pick them and then stand by them as allegations become public have already had a profound effect. michigan's attorney general, dana nestle writes in a new op- ed in the detroit free press that trumps pics show disdain for victims of sexual assault. she writes this, "these nominations reduce the often devastating trauma that affects victims throughout the rest of their lives. to be overcome by powerful

people, being lifted further up , our nation's power structures." "when the white house asks the people, the press, and the u.s. congress to overlook or ignore these accusations as mistakes or minor details, balanced against a nominees desirable ideologies or resumes, they beg you to ignore the lifelong suffering of their victims, and so many others out there who already feel that justice is outside their beach?" when it comes to pete hegseth, donald trump's pick to lead the pentagon, they asked congress to have the courage to vote against his confirmation. she writes in newsweek, "pugh's public persona as a champion of traditional values contracts with his actions , multiple public affairs and allegations of sexual assault to suggest serious powerful flaws. as our military contrasts sexual assault as a problem, what does it say if we elevate this man to oversee this issue?

he wears a white supremacist tattoo on his body. an officer or enlisted service member would not be promoted with such a background. how can this man earn their respect? is deeply controversial past right with allegations of personal misconduct and extremist political views should disqualify him out right." the message being sent by trump and his cabinet picks is where we start our with the authors of those op-ed's, michigan attorney general dana nessel , and retired marine corps colonel and founder of action- packed, amy mcgrath is here but also join us, my colleague, msnbc senior contributing editor, michele norris. i start with you, let me read a little bit more of your peace. from 2017 to 2020, trump and his cabinet issued rules that made it more difficult to hold sexual assailants to justice on campuses, stopped rulemaking that would have addressed sexual assault against members of healthcare professionals, opposed legislation that would

have provided increased rights to sexual assault victims in the military, and threatened to withhold sexual assault prevention funding from several cities over a disagreement with those cities policies. say a little bit more about what these pics say. >> i mean, it is pretty clear. it is that we don't care about the crime of sexual assault and we don't care about the survivors who have to live with it. it is really concerning, and i think what we know about the policies moving forward, based on the first version of the trump administration, is that they're going to do everything in their power to defund the crime victims act, the violence against women act, and it is really going to have a substantial impact in our ability to investigate and prosecute sexual abuse crimes, sexual assault crimes, as well as really necessary things like counseling for survivors, and a number of other ways in which, you know, we work hard to

ensure not just that people are held accountable for these crimes, but that we are helping the victims and survivors of them. >> when you look at the fact that 53% of white women voted for him, what does that say about what was covered as some progress or some safer climate for women to adjudicate sexual assault and the power dynamic in the #metoo era, what does that say? >> i wish that i could explain that in some way, shape, or form, all i know is this, in over 30 years that i have been handling sexual assault cases, either as a prosecutor or as a defense attorney, do you know how many survivors of sexual abuse have ever said to me, hey, that time that i was raped, it

was really no big deal, it didn't have that much of an impact on my life ? can you guess? none. zero is the answer to that, it impacts everyone could and i think that people also should know that it has a devastating impact economically. in fact, the cdc did a study on this, and on average, per act of sexual assault, it has about 125,000 dollar impact on the economy when you look at all the consequences, the ripple effect of sexual assault. so, if you are a person, you are one of these white women who said, well, i was mostly concerned about economic issues, rape also creates economic issues, people should know that could >> it is kind of a sick thing to have to defend, but there is also an economic issue. i mean, i feel like we are in this orwellian moment where what's up is down, what's down is up, what's real is the lies, the lies that they have told are now becoming the people running our government. what do you think the potential

political fallout is, from donald trump may be over reading a mandate that has nothing to do with people being okay with the things he has been found liable to have done, has nothing to do with people wanting to take a pass on allegations of trafficking of a minor, a settlement, i mean, bill o'reilly was fired from fox news for the kinds of settlements that the trump transition team just rolls out as, yeah, there was a settlement with the woman who has accused him of assault. what do you think it says about the moment in our politics? >> all i know is that when i first ran for attorney general in 2018, you know, i was assailed as somebody who was unfit for this office, because as an attorney, as a public defender, i had represented people who were charged with sexual assault.

the sixth amendment right to council, they had the right to have an attorney represent them, but i had prosecutors and sheriffs around the state say that was disqualifying for me to be attorney general. no! the republicans have turned that on its head, saying not only is it not disqualifying to have represented somebody in that capacity, you yourself can be a person who has committed the crime of sexual assault and it is a okay with us, we don't have any problem with it at all, and i think it really speaks to -- a deep concern in terms of what our country's values are, but i can tell you this, for people of my state, for the people of the united states, and for women especially, who are most often targeted for sexual assault, i think it is going to be, you know, a shock to the system when they see what the ripple effects are of having people like these individuals be in these positions of authority and how this incredibly damaging crime is treated all

the way from -- you know, in our military, to -- with our healthcare professionals, to our college campuses, it is going to be devastating to people all around the country, but unfortunately, i think people are going to find out the hard way. >> amy, let me show you what republican senator kevin cramer says about the allegations against mr. hegseth . >> does not give you any pause on pete hegseth? >> it is a pretty big problem, given that we have the sexual assault problem in our military , that a number of us and certainly the champions being kirsten gillibrand and joni ernst, but i have been on board with them and in support of their legislation to deal with it since the cheney command was not, and so, yeah, it becomes a problem. you know, this is why you have

background checks, this is why you have hearings, this is why you go through the scrutiny. i am not going to prejudge them, but yeah, it is a pretty concerning accusation. >> amy? >> well, it is a very concerning accusation. we clearly still have a problem with sexual assault in the military, but you know, i think with regards to pete hegseth, his moral failings are actually overshadowed -- overshadowing the simple fact that he is the most unqualified pick for secretary of defense really ever. i mean, he has almost no government experience or experience working with in a bureaucracy. he has no experience in strategic planning from a defense perspective. he has very little management experience. i mean, he has barely led a very small group of veterans, less than 50 people before. so, he is super unqualified for

this position to be in charge of the most -- the largest federal agency our government has. he is now nominated to oversee. $800 billion and 3 million people. he is just simply unqualified for the job as well. >> amy, let me show you what senator tammy duckworth has said about whether or not the confirmation process will include hearing from the victim. >> is the committee going to speak with the victim to ask if this was a misunderstanding? >> well, that will be the decision of the republican chairman of the committee next year. i hope that we will, but i suspect that they again will roll over for mr. trump. frankly, i will raise those questions. remember that we have just fought over a decade of fights

and overhauled the military and its treatment of military sexual trauma. it is frankly an insult and really troubling that mr. trump would nominate someone who has admitted that he has paid off a victim who has claimed rape allegations against him. this is not the kind of person you want to lead the department of defense. >> are you -- are you hopeful, are you optimistic that the confirmation process will be a genuine vetting of his character and of his past? >> well, i am genuinely an optimistic person to begin with, so yes. however, i wouldn't be surprised if mr. trump wins in this fight and gets this person as secretary of defense. but it really is a slap in the face to everyone who works in the dod and those people who serve our country, because the services -- remember, we are a

values based military, that's what makes us special. if you look at our mission statements, if you look at the core values of all the services, there are terms like integrity and honor and character, and what does it say to our members of the military that these are the ideals that we hold them to and yet you are going to uplift a man like pete hegseth, with such terrible moral character flaws to lead them? i think that, you know, unfortunately, this is part of trumpism right now, and the republicans in congress need to stand up, and the senate, and protect our military. >> michel, i have been interested in men and what is going on with med and how joe rogan became more powerful than the man donald trump tapped to be his new running mate, there were very few news cycles about anything jd vance did to

advance his candidate, there were more news cycles, even where donald trump is involved, about how he created problems, but joe rogan was viewed as a pure asset on the right and inside the magnet movement. and it is a really important conversation, one we have to have as a country, but it has overshadowed the conversation about women. and this was an election, the first presidential election in a post-dobbs america, and i have asked a question just as a cable host, do you think this story about the dead women, had not enough women died? [ inaudible ] since then, propublica has reported on women who have died, and since the election, some of the maternal mortality statistical processes have been a cutout. so, we may not even know moving forward about the life or death implications of women being pregnant and having sex in post- dobbs america. but you take the issue of sexual assault, and a woman who is a survivor of sexual assault

or rape, but a very small percentage of those women actually seeks to adjudicate their cases criminally or civilly. so, what you have in these picks are the small sliver of accused men for whom their victims have either reported them or sought to adjudicate the abuse, and you have 53% of white women voting for the man who has tapped these men to run this government, but you have in trump's running mate someone who believes "staying in marriages, even the violent ones, is better than divorce." you have in gaetz is someone who is accused of sex trafficking a 17-year-old, there is no legal sex worked for a minor, so whatever the circumstances, it is not a legal interaction. you have hegseth who [ inaudible ] there is a settlement for fox news for mr. hegseth's conduct with this accuser. and donald trump, let me play

what donald trump describes about what you can do when you're famous. >> is it true with stars that they can grab women by the [ inaudible ]? >> if you look over the last million years, i guess that has been largely true, not ways, but largely true, unfortunately or fortunately. >> and you consider yourself to be a star? >> i think you can say that, yeah. >> and you said before, a couple minutes ago, that this was just a locker room talk. >> it is locker room talk. >> so, does that mean that you didn't really mean it? x no, it's locker room talk, i don't know, it's just the way people talk. >> unapologetic again, at a minimum. and then take linen mcmahon, which in some ways is interesting, she is accused by former employees of hers and her husband, vince mcmahon, of basically being aware of, again, at a minimum, the most

conservative description of those allegations, sexual abuse of then teenagers. it is a portrait so cruelly cartoonish, it defies belief that in 2024, the united states of america chose this. how front and center do you think all of this was on election day? >> you know, nicole, i don't know, because there is so much of this that doesn't make sense, that women would support a president, knowing that that was in his background. what they did not know was what was coming with these cabinet picks, who so many of them have sexual assault allegations as part of their probe for leos, he would like to think that most people would protest if someone had that kind of background, those kind of charges against them, and they were running for principal of a school, for the head of the organization that you work for, for anything that would be close in your orbit, but there is an assumption in this case that these candidates are going to be able to move forward,

plow forward, without explaining in any way what they did and that they would just ignore these kinds of allegations. that also include, in pete hegseth's case, drinking to excess in public, paying off someone so they would keep silent because he was worried about losing his job with fox news, but appears to be less worried about having his confirmation stopped because of these same kind of allegations. we should be really clear here, though, about the hypocrisy that is evident in these nominations. let's not pretend that if a democratic president, either joe biden or barack obama or bill clinton, reaching back, had presented a roster of nominees who had these kind of charges against them, we know that the republicans on the other side of the aisle would be crying foul, would be asking for investigations, would be calling people in front of

committees to demand an explanation, and probably just stop the nomination altogether. so, you know, there's just rank hypocrisy in this as well, and in hegseth's case, you have someone who was, you mentioned the tattoos that he has, he has explained that, he took some time to explain what that means. i guess we should take him at his word that this is a christian symbol in that case. is he willing to take the same amount of time to explain what he says is a he said, she said situation regarding those allegations of monterey. i don't think that he is going to be willing to do that. the expectation is that that nomination will just sail forward, and it does send a very terrible message to the woman -- women who are courageous enough to step forward when they have experienced sexual trauma. it also sends a very damaging message to the people who adjudicate these cases, who think is it worth it to bring charges, to go through the process of trying to get

justice in some of these cases, it sends a confusing message to hr individuals. and let's not forget that it sends a very confusing message to people who are coming of age in this moment and looking at the america that they are going to be living in >> okay, it is a privilege to have all of you, i know we only asked you to stay for the first block. may i sneak in a break and pull all of you through? because i think that to land on the fact of it and not the response to it is also a mistake, and one that they count on, right? that he feels preordained, we have all used the words they are going to health through, it feels like doing all of this as inevitable would be our mistake. i'm going to ask all of you to stick around through a commercial break. donald trump, we are also going to tell you about his statements and hypocrisy on the subject of law enforcement and his support for the men and women of law enforcement's team is shunning the nation's top law enforcement agency by refusing to let the fbi that

any of these people or any members of his transition. it is also a risk to national security and we will talk about that. >> [ music ] >> [ music ]

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we are back. madame attorney general, what does standing up for the victims and standing up for the truth look like? >> well, it means doing what we are doing right now, right? communicating to the general public firstly that if you make a report to our department, we are going to take that complaint incredibly seriously, and we are going to start out from a position of believing what you are telling us, and then investigate it from that perspective. and i think this is the biggest problem that we are facing here, right? it is the issue, and you brought up how many people report or don't report, it is

about a third of sexual assault victims that even step forward and make a report to law enforcement or anybody else to begin with. i think we are going to see, unfortunately, that number might start to, you know, decrease as a result of what we are discussing today. but i think the message we need to send is that this is not okay, we are not all right with the offense of sexual assault, we are going to treat it incredibly seriously, we are going to use all of our efforts to investigate and prosecute these to the full extent of the law, and people like your panelists today are not just going to except the fact that people who have these types of, you know, either convictions or even credible complaints in their background that they would ever be qualified to lead these anonymous and incredibly important agencies and departments throughout the nation. and so, we have to continue to push back and to say this is not okay, and just because somebody who has a record of

having been involved in sexual assault to become president of the united states, it doesn't matter who sits in the oval office, the rest of us are still going to hold these people to account and take these crimes and the stories of survivors very seriously. >> amy, it seems like it might be a little harder to do that in the military where the justice system is more insular and almost walled off by design from public scrutiny, but what can people do to support women in the military? >> well, stay engaged. stay engaged and have our backs. you know, those people who -- especially women in the military, well, military members in general, we are not able to speak up against some of donald trump's policies that are going to be coming down the

pike, so, i feel like those people who are outside the military can see the real impacts on women in the military, see the real impact on readiness, see the impact on the military as an institution, as an ethical institution. what i talked about earlier. those that understand this from outside need to speak up, need to have the backs of women in the military, and the military in general, i think that is really important in the next four years. we also did sometimes want to roll up our hands and say, oh, well, he is in office and there is nothing we can do, but there is a lot that we can do and we need to do it for our military and for our kids, and really for the world in general. >> all right, well, on that, to be continued. michigan attorney general dana nessel, thank you for making time for us. amy, thank you as always for making time for us and starting us off.

michele sticks around with us. when we come back, why the trunk transition team doesn't want the fbi vetting any of these pics. we will have that conversation coming up next. >> [ music ] >> [ music ]

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we want a crime free america, we are going to stop a violent crime in the united states, and it is people like this that can do the job better than anybody, there is nobody like them, so they can do it and they have to be given back their rights and their dignity, they have to be allowed to do their job. i will deliver law, order, safety, and peace. >> that was donald trump on the campaign trail, promising law enforcement that if he is president, he would allow them to do their jobs. that promise does not extend to january 6th or the fbi. new york times reports that while after weeks of delay, the trunk transition team has finally signed a transition

agreement, "trump's team has so far refused to sign an agreement with the justice department to allow the fbi to do security clearances for transition members." trump has also turned down federal funding for his transition, which then allows him to raise unlimited private funds, including from foreign nationals, with zero requirement to disclose where they come from. senator elizabeth warren slammed the announcement on social media, writing this, " this announcement fails to answer key questions about national security threats and fbi vetting of nominees, and increases concerns about corruption. there appear to be serious gaps between the trunk transition's ethics agreements and the letter of the law." during our conversation, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi, frank is here. michele is back with us as well. frank, your thoughts? >> so, look, this may be the first tangible action item that we can point to that says trump

intends to turn the fbi into his own personal police department. why am i saying this? there is reporting by hugo lowell in the guardian that says that the fbi will only do those background investigations for trump after trump takes over the fbi. so, trump's intention, according to people around him, is that, yeah, he will do some background investigations with the fbi, but only once he takes control, once he names a deputy director and a director. this creates a real national security dilemma, because what is going to happen according to this guardian article is he is going to give blanket security clearances on day one to his nominees without benefit of the fbi background investigations having already been done, and then he will task the fbi, and then you know, the fbi will weigh in, but who is in charge of the fbi? will trump get a full summer report? will you dictate the outcome of the report? if you think that is far-

fetched, we need only to look back on the investigation where trump literally dictated who they could interview, what they could focus on, and what they could do with the myriad allegations that were thrown into the tip line, so we are beginning to see the plan here. he will give senators on the judiciary committee an out by saying, yeah, calm down, i will give you an fbi investigation, of course it will be my fbi and my background investigation that i will hand you. hopefully, republican members of the senate judiciary will balk at that, and by the way, i would assert as i did on the msnbc daily column last week that president biden has the authority right now to step in and say, i see a national security issue, i have the authority to order the fbi to do background investigations on nominees right now. >> i mean, frank, i'm thinking of tulsi gabbard as you are speaking as being the kind of person that trump may not want

his last picked to head the fbi, christopher wray, to vet in an fbi background check, but i am at a loss behind what is the incentive to go deep into the mind of trump, why does he want people who haven't been vetted again to not be counterintelligence threats to the united states of america? >> there are a couple of ways that i am looking at this. first, many of these people can't get another job. they literally -- their backgrounds preclude them from meaningful employment, so what does that mean? it means they must be blindly loyal to him. their power, their authority, their influence comes only through him. secondly, he has got to be the smartest guy in the room. right? now, that is probably never the case, but it has to be his perception that he is the smartest guy in the room, so let me surround myself with people who have the ethics and morality that i have, which is basically zero, and now we will

all be the same. no one can criticize me from an ethical or intelligence related background. >> michele, what is fascinating to me is that politically, this doesn't serve trump to weaken the caliber of people that run the government that he will be held accountable for its success or failure. and i wondered just how sort of pickled the feedback loop is or just tell me your thinking on the white. >> well, if you had nothing to hide, why not acquiesce to background check? they're there for a reason, they have been in place since the eisenhower administration, part of it is a cold war relic to make sure people didn't have foreign ties, and also to look at financial problems that might lead people to be vulnerable to being blackmailed or something like that, to look in the background. so you actually know who is actually coming into office.

i think they are going to get some pushback on this, though. there is a bipartisan coalition of senators from the upper midwest, amy klobuchar, kevin cramer from north dakota, mike welch from south dakota, who are saying wait a minute, wait a minute, we really think that we need to have these fbi background checks. >> still ahead for us, donald trump ran for president and won. based at least in part on voter read -- frustration on how much stuff costs. but voters a really real possibility that things will cost more when trumpet is inaugurated. that is next. ted. that is next. no matter what kind of teeth you gotta brush, oral-b electric cleans better with one simple touch. oral-b's dentist inspired round brush head hugs em, cleans em, and gets in between em, for 100% cleaner teeth. your perfect clean starts with oral-b.

from today and from the day i take the oath of office, we will rapidly drive prices down and make america affordable again. we are going to make it affordable again. >> when he says that, people believe him. he hasn't been sworn in yet and he may already be breaking that promise. donald trump announced that one of his first acts as president will be imposing a 25% tariff on all goods that come into the united states from canada and mexico and a 10% tariff on all goods coming from china. the countries are america's three largest trading partners. donald trump says terrorists are a retaliation against what he calls the flood of fentanyl and migrants coming into the u.s. the people who will be most harmed -- i don't know if

the migrants or maybe criminals, it is every american family who will face soaring prices as a result of the tariffs. one analysis found prices could go up by as much as $3900 per household each year. with some companies already preparing price hikes in anticipation of trump returning to the white house and imposing is tariffs. joining us at the table, senior business correspondent christine romans. explain -- just give me a basic on my this is his reflexive sort of first strike that the economy? >> you know, it is a tool he has, i think, and he thinks it works, and he really does think -- or at least he says that the other country pays these tariffs, when we know that is just not true, the importer pays the tariffs. so, for example for our viewers, if we are importing a bunch of tomatoes, which we do every day, those tomatoes when they come to the port, there

will be a tax, a 25% tax, and that is paid for by the importer, who then passes the cost along to wholesalers and consumers, so that's why we think this would raise prices for consumers. he has been very steadfast and consistent that he thinks that tariffs are the answer, even when historians and economists are telling him no, tariffs cause trade wars which would cause depressions, he thinks this is how he can reorder the world economy in favor of the united states. >> will it work restaurant >> i mean, he said this on china before and it really hurt american farmers, and taxpayers had to pay billions of dollars to bail out farmers, because what happens is when one country puts tariffs on another country, that country then turns around and puts tariffs back, it retaliates. so, all the sudden, the united states sells a lot of stuff, i'm thinking soybeans, thinking all kinds of electronics that we sell and construction equipment and things the united states sells a broad that will then become

more expensive there, and then you start to see the wheels of global trade start to shift. supply chains start to snag, there are costs that have to be shared and passed along, and that's why so many people find trade were so dangerous. >> there is reported that inflation is starting to come down, that the thanksgiving dinner is starting to come down for the first time since trump left office. you know, sometimes with drum, we get caught up in the shiny ball of what he is doing. what could he actually be doing? is a crisis creation so that he can come in and solve it? >> what i think is interesting is this drama about rising prices and potentially reversing progress on inflation makes the federal reserve's job harder. the federal reserve may then be slower to lower interest rates, which trump would probably hate, but also hurts families and businesses as well. so, there are a lot of different levers at the same time. he has been consistent that he is going to do this. there have been a lot of companies that are renting warehouses around these port facilities because they are

already stockpiling good speed a big company could do that because they have got a lot of money that they can put into resources, but if you are a small company or medium-size manufacturer in this country, you may not have $1 million so you can be on top of the game. and also, maybe this is just a negotiating ploy. fine, so if this is the beginning of negotiation, it still is uncertainty for these businesses that are trying to import stuff for the very important spring selling season, so there's just a lot of uncertainty surrounding it. >> we are going to ask you to stick around, i want to bring michael and claire on the other side of the very short break, don't go anywhere. >> [ music ] >> [ music ] ♪♪ over 600,000 usps employees working in sync to ensure everything sent on its holiday ride ends with a moment of joy. ♪♪

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we are going to be a tariff nation, it is not going to be a cost to you, it is going to be a cost to another country. i heard kamala say the other day, oh, if you do that, he is raising your taxes. no, no, no, i'm not raising your taxes. >> michael steele, let me review this analysis from msnbc, "keep an eye on the correction angle. when tariffs are imposed, administrations often create loopholes and exceptions, opening the door to lobbyist eager to deal. don't be surprised at the trump white house starts making assessments about companies and industries that play ball. buckle up." your thoughts?

>> absolutely. remember, this is the man that told the oil and gas industry, local, fellows, you give me $1 billion, i give you whatever you want, right? so, the next step from that is we impose these tariffs, which, oh, okay, this is not going to affect the people of america because canada, mexico, and china are going to pay those tariffs, but then the business that is created around the respective industries that are hit with the tariffs, whether it is the growing industry, the food processing industry, products, goods, and services, whatever it is, so absolutely, this is all a grifter. >> when democrats sort of -- you know, make a new argument to the country ahead of the midterms and the next presidential, how do you bake in the flagrant nature of the graft that this is to enrich trump and his friends, and the fact that you have polling on

tariffs that suggest that 70% of americans understand that the tariffs on imports will make things more expensive? how do you square that 70% of all voters knew that tariffs would make things more expensive, but rejected democrats because things were too expensive? >> doesn't make sense to me. and you know, the weird thing about this is as your guest pointed out, where this will have the most impact is small businesses, small manufacturing, and by the way, those places.read america. by the way, the bigger places are in urban america. the larger companies that can by the warehouses and stockpile the steel. and farmers. i mean, that is read america. farmers are read america. the last time, as she mentioned, they had to write a check for $28 billion to go -- talk about socialism. talk about the central government buying people off through socialism.

they wrote a $28 billion check to make up for the losses they had because of the retaliatory tariffs on corn and soybeans. in missouri, 50%, billions and tens of billions of dollars are exported to canada and mexico, and then china to a lesser extent. the farmers in missouri are going to take it in the shorts. and will he write them another check? well all these guys -- will elon musk be down with that because he is going to cut government spending so much? and by the way, can i just say a sad goodbye to guacamole? you know? >> [ laughter ] >> i love my freaking guacamole. next to me, too. my son loves to say you are on a desert island, you can have one food grade my food is chips and guacamole. that's what i would live on until the end of time. >> avocados are going to go to

$10 apiece. the only people that will be able to afford guacamole are elon musk and all of his children that are named after a mathematical formula. they will have their avocado toast. but people in middle america, they are out of luck when it comes to guacamole or avocados, it is over, i'm just telling you, it is going to be a bloodbath at the place where you get your guacamole. your job is going to drop and you're going to go, okay, well, remember, donald trump made guacamole unaffordable. >> michael? >> [ laughter ] >> i really, i feel like moved to activism over this, guacamole. >> look, nicole, that is what it takes to get people off their behind, then okay, let's get in the guacamole caucus and figure out, you know, how we help each other here.

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