tonight, we have a quick and simple visual update for you on all of these cabinet picks we have been tracking because if you feel like more have left earlier than usual, you're correct. two to drop out before hearings even began is unusual. attorney general nominee matt gaetz withdrawn, replaced by pam bondi you see next to him. tonight, the dea nominee also withdrawing. there are other embattled nominees. the story nicolle and i were discussing one hour ago is how the third person who could withdraw would be, according to some senate republicans, defense pick hegseth, as six senate republicans are privately saying without releasing their names they oppose them. you can follow me at ari melber. you can share it or look at it if you want to track the news that way. you can always connect with me

personally at arimelber.com and sign up for my newsletter. "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> with the ax, who is going to win this battle for the lumberjacks? >> ouch. that was pete hegseth on fox and friends. tonight, nbc news has new reporting that some current and former fox colleagues said they smelled alcohol on his breath many times, as his support in the senate may be waning. also tonight, kash patel would be the first fbi director who enter office with a published enemies list. andrew weissmann, one of the people on that list, joins me tonight. >> plus, an old mobster tactic

is playing out in north carolina. it goes like this. when democrats win at the ballot box, republicans move quickly to strip them of their powers. >> but we begin tonight with president biden, who was not in the u.s. today but rather at the national museum of slavery in angola. addressing the origin story of america and slave ry. >> cruel, brutal, dehumanizing. our nation's original sin. history can be hidden, it cannot and should not be erased. it should be faced. it's our duty to face our history. >> it is a reminder that president biden is a politician from an era that will very soon be gone. in 48 days, biden will no longer be president and with it, the era of presidents like him may dissolve completely. it is an era where leaders of perhaps the world's least humble

nation showed some humility on the world stage. early into his presidency, barack obama addressed the horrors of slavery and segregation while speaking in cairo, egypt. though he later rejected it, bill clinton considered making an official domestic apology to african-americans for slavery. even george w. bush acknowledges slavery's continuing legacy in american life and the need to confront that legacy. these lessons on civility and humility, lessons that stretch back to abraham lincoln, will no longer be shown from a u.s. leader. because the next president has been a flat out bully his whole life and on the world stage. a tyrant, a thug, and when he is inaugurated next month, the world will be very different because of it. it will end -- it will be the end of pact amare conda, and be replaced by the entry of global

gangsterism in grotesque displace. late last night, we learned donald trump will attend the reopening celebration for notre dame cathedral in paris this weekend. his first foreign trip since the election. france, as it were, is a prime example of the creeping autocracy reflected by maga. marine le pen is looking to link up with a far left party to take over the country. we are in the age of global gangsterism, the age folks like vladimir putin have planned for decades. look at this map. it reflects an alarming worldwide trend on the rise in autocracy. these are the countries that had elections this year by the economist. those colors in blue are authoritarian. those colors in yellow are hybrid regimes, and those colored in red, including the united states, are deemed flawed democracies. you don't see south korea on that map because the economist considers it a full democracy.

but check out what's happening in south korea. president yoon of south korea declared martial law late tuesday inciting political chaos within one of our closest allies in asia. the president has accused opposition parties of sympathizing with north korea and controlling parliament. soldiers blocked large crowds from entering the parliament building even as lawmakers inside voted to block yoon's decree. while inside, south korean opposition party staff set up barricades to prevent soldiers from entering the chamber. does this scene seem familiar? then on wednesday morning, their time, so not too long ago, president yoon lifted the emergency martial law declaration he had imposed, bowing to pressure from lawmakers and protesters. the tumultuous six hours recall the pre-democracy period because south korea also has had a dark pre-democracy past which includes martial law imposed

there 16 times since the end of world war ii. mose recently in 1980 after the assassination of a military strongman the year before. that past doesn't feel as ancient as it once did. there or in many other part of the world. we're seeing a global trend of the far right surging. it isn't just happening here. let's bring you back to the u.s. and to our local gangster, donald trump. he's not even president yet and he's already spending his time sitting in his golden palace, mar-a-lago, muscling other countries like he's tony soprano with his social media site, doing things like debating whether or not to invade mexico. threatening brazil, russia, india, and south africa with 100% tariffs if they don't commit to trading in dollars and not their own currencies. demanding hamas release all hostages being held in gaza before his inauguration or there will be, quote, all hell to pay in the middle east.

even reportedly threatening canada, according to fox, when canadian prime minister justin trudeau went to mar-a-lago this weekend to try to talk trump out of his 25% tariff threat, trump apparently suggested if canada can't handle the tariff that would violate the upgrade trump himself signed the to law, they should just become the 51st state. allow trudeau to be reduced to governor of the state of canada, which caused the prime minister and others to laugh nervously. while some are writing that off as just a joke, just a few hours ago trump posted this obviously a.i. photo of him standing on a mountaintop next to the canadian flag looking off into the distance with the caption, oh, canada. and for the record, he appears to be looking at the matterhorn which is on the border between switzerland and italy, not canada. let's not forget, this is the

same donald trump who at one point seriously wanted to buy the nation of greenland, even possibly trade it for puerto rico. wonder what this guy has against puerto rico? i'm sure i'll figure it out. bottom line, this is how trump operates on the world stage. he acts like he's everybody's boss, like he's the king of the world. which is bad news for basically everybody, unless your name is vladimir putin. the boss to trump's underboss. the question now is will any other leader stand up to him, and who? who becomes the leader of the free world when donald trump ends this as we know it. as nicklaus grossman writes, there is no undoing damage in history. it is up to those with power and influence to limit it now. and up to future generations to deal with it later. the post-cold war international system has serious flaws, but at least there are clear enough rules that charges of hypocrisy mean something.

even rules more honored in the breach will be preferable to the lawlessness trump's second term could invite. the aforementioned nicolas grossman joins me now. he's a professor at the university of illinois and editor of arc digital. also joining me is bobby ghosh, senior editor at bloomberg. thank you both for being here. nicolas, i want to start with you. your piece was really excellent. it sparked this open today, tonight. there are a lot of things you could actually criticize about the whole ruled-based order after world war ii. it favored the west over what's now called the global south. it allowed the west to take resources from some of the countries that are now called brics and use them for our own interests. there's a lot of things you could complain about, but it was a rule-based order that in your writing diminished wars, made the world safer, so what does it

mean when donald trump breaks that order, ends it, and makes it a multi-polar world, which is what vladimir putin has always wanted? >> well, it means that we risk going back to something that pretty much nobody alive in america has a memory of, which was before there was this bedrock of american power, upon which a lot of these international rules were built. so think about things like open trade, which helped to avoid another great depression, of the big alliances of democracies like nato and the u.s./south korea alliance, our relationship with japan or australia or other countries and that kept a lot of aggressive war at bay because a lot of the world knew there was a bedrock idea of when you try to, say, redraw borders by force or try to threaten an american ally, then you have to mess with the world's biggest power. and trump is likely to take the u.s. away from that. it won't be that difficult because it doesn't really require doing anything. it requires not doing something,

such as not helping a nato ally that is being menaced by russia or not helping ukraine anymore try to keep its independence. >> right, and bobby, a couple things that nicolas mentioned are some of the things causing the world to sort of veer right. like people don't like open trade. free trade for a lot of americans is the great evil. and donald trump lied and pretended he was going to end the nafta agreement, which eliminated tariffs between the united states, canada, and mexico, and made us a free trade zone. people felt that just meant jobs went to mexico, a cheaper place where people are paid less. and people think about things like supporting nato and ukraine and say we don't want you to do that. we want you to spend the money here. trump and a lot of these far-right people, marine le pen, these people are making an argument that the rules-based order is hurting working people. so they're choosing dictators. it's a very confounding system,

but it seems to be all the world. we have a map that shows all the places where people are veering toward autocrats. your thoughts. >> yeah, that is true, and these autocrats, as you say, have done a very good job of misrepresenting what free trade means to ordinary people. free trade to ordinary people, they have said means your jobs go away. they don't point out, and by the way, the other side of the argument could make a stronger argument, and they clearly haven't been able to do so for a variety of reasons. free trade means you can afford more things. chings are cheaper. you can buy a cheaper car, cheaper things to furnish your home. your home itself is cheaper to build because of free trade, because the world is a place where things can be made cheaper where your economy is focus on high value and high end items and sort of technological superiorities where you can place bets for your economic future. that argument has not properly been articulated or at least has

not been articulated afresh. that's lacking in the public discourse. nobody is reminding people or nobody is making good -- doing a good enough job of reminding people free trade brings these benefits. these alliances we have with these countries, nato benefits america. it doesn't just benefit those european countries. this narrative that, oh, those countries are free riding. it's a deeply flawed narrative and the argument against it is because of nato, we avoided a third world war, and because of nato still, the chances of a third world war look remote. if nato breaks up, that possibility becomes much more real, and guess who is going to have to deal with that third world war and who will be affected by it and who in the end will have to help. so ukraine is another great example. this talk that we're spending billions and billions of dollars. the amount of money we spend on

ukraine is a rounding error compared to what it would cost us to confront vladimir putin directly. ukraine is an important country in its own right. but it's also -- it also allows the united states and the western nations to confront putin on the cheap. this should not be a mystery to people. this should be argued better by our leaders, and by people in positions to make that argument. i'm afraid by failing to do that, we have allowed these right-wing authoritarian sort of wing nuts to take that center stage and to make their flawed arguments without any challenge. >> right, and i think there's a couple things that are a piece of that. number one, free trade also has made other countries that used to be super poor less poor, which means they can afford to buy our stuff. without that, i don't think people think about the fact you do not want an impoverished

mexico because who is going to buy your things? and the second thing, what happens when the u.s. is no longer the leader of the free world? let's be clear, with trump in office, we ain't. and vladimir putin can run amuck in europe. and bibi netanyahu can run amuck and do whatever he wants in the middle east, and whatever autocrat, the guys in argentina would like to invade guyana, and there's nothing stopping it. what happens then? >> well, then the world becomes a more chaotic place. and a lot of countries start adjusting in various ways. so free trade, for example, when i talk about it as a core part of international peace, i don't mean things like where one factory is built or another, but i mean more having an open relationship in which commerce moves back and forth between north america and europe and asia, and is ing prosperity for a lot of people to the point they want to keep it going. if the united states abdicates its role as leader of the free

world, and i think it's likely. the prediction is just that we will carry on with things he did in his first term, he will not have people in his administration like, say, general james mattis, or john kelly as chief of staff, who are supportive of the united states role in the world order, and that he will not be incumbered by fear of things like impeachment or criminal prosecution or losing re-election because he just beat all three. so as a result, he is likely to act on a lot of these things he's been saying, of removing u.s. protection from south korea, because he has cozied up to kim jong-un. he's argued south koreaen alliance is a rip' off, and then if he just doesn't help there, that is something, for example, that has gotten the south koreans talking about developing their own nuclear weapons. and ukraine also, if it doesn't get security guarantees that it is asking for to make it so russia doesn't attack them, they're also thinking about their own nuclear weapons.

the israeli far right is feeling emboldened and would not be surprised to see an end to the peace produce and the oslo accords. perhaps permanent israeli settlements in and gaza and other things that people who are critical of joe biden's policies toward them, this is a blank check in when the united states policy would change from years of generally trying to promote stability to trying to allow these authoritarians to run amuck. >> do what they want. >> and one is with nato because nato is based on the united states always guaranteeing it will back up its allies, can those allies have been spend aglot of the money they promised they would spend. if the united states doesn't do it, it emboldens russia can china as well. >> thank you both very much. that is what we're looking at, guys. up next, brand-new reporting from nbc news that trump's pick for secretary of defense, pete

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we have breaking news tonight involving donald trump's pick for secretary of defense, pete hegseth. three republican sources with direct knowledge of hegseth's nomination process tell nbc news that as many as six senate

republicans and perhaps more are currently not comfortable supporting his bid. this comes as another nbc news report sourcing ten current and former fox employees who say hegseth drank in ways that concerned his coworkers. the extensive reporting includes accounts from hegseth's time as a cohost of fox and friends weekend. two of those people said that on more than a dozen occasions they smelled alcohol on hegseth before he went on air. one of the former fraux employees said, quote, for the sake of national security, i really hope he has stopped drinking. another added, he should not be secretary of defense. his drinking should be disqualifying. it's the latest in a series of serious allegations against hegseth. tonight, the trump transition team responded to the reporting calming the claims completely unfounded and false. we heard from hegseth's own mother who in a letter obtained by "the new york times" called her son, quote, an abuser of women. a man that belittles, lies,

cheats, sleeps around, and using women for his own power and ego. his mother later told the times she apologized and had fired off that email in anger with emotion at a time when he and his wife were going through a very difficult divorce. we have also read in jane mayer's reporting in the new yorker he was forced to step down by two nonprofit advocacy groups in the face of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety, and personal misconduct allegations. his lawyer told the new yorker that these allegations were, quote, outlandish claims laundered through the new yorker by a petty and jealous former associate. joining me is courtney kube, and nancy perish, founder and ceo of protect our defenders, an organization dedicated to ending sexual violence in the military. courtney, tell me first about what was going on at fox and what was the extent of the concern of these coworkers who

spoke to nbc news about him, and what is the state of his nomination among republicans, senate republicans? >> so this was ten current and former fox news employees. some of whom worked directly with him on the show fox and friends, the popular saturday morning or weekend show that he's been a host of. and these people all gave us a very similar picture of what they saw during their years working there over the course of various times, from the time pete hegseth started working at fox news. they described cases where the show would start at 6:00 a.m. he would show up in some cases only minutes before the show was about to start. the staff, the producers would be concerned, was he going to show up at all. and at times he would come in and talking about how he was still hung over or in some cases still smelling of alcohol from the night before. some cases he would show up so late, they would rush him on the set, put his makeup on, talking through some of the topics as

they were moving him on the set to get on the air. it caused a lot of stress and pressure for the staff of that show, and for other colleagues at fox news. now, we know that this was occurring until at least 2020, maybe 2021, but we even have one former fox colleague, fox news employee, who said there were concerns about this as recently as last month. of course, he terminated his contract with fox news on november 12th when donald trump, president-elect donald trump announced he was going to be his selection to be the secretary of defense. but joy, you know, you work on a show. when you have an anchor or a host who engages in this kind of behavior, showing up not always reliable, it puts a lot of pressure on the show. i should say, none of the people were aware of a time where he actually missed an appearance or he was actually drunk on the air. but they said that there were multiple occasions where he would show up and he clearly was

still, you know, showing signs of his partying from the night before. >> so senate republicans are now thinking twice about this? at least some? >> yeah. so i mean, there are a number of republican senators who would normally support president-elect donald trump's selections here. but it's not just the policies. remember, when hegseth's name first came out, there was a lot of talk for the few few days about policy decisions he might try to enact if he was confirmed to be secretary of defense. the biggest one we talked about was the idea of no longer allowing women to serve in combat positions. we have really changed because since that time there have been a series of stories and allegations about character flaws. now, the drinking that we're talking about here tonight, you mentioned the new yorker reporting, that also highlighted some concerns about his ability, frankly, just to be able to manage an organization. it called into question when he was one of the leaders of

concerned veterans of america, a nonprofit, that he apparently mismanaged the money. he blew through money and it's not really clear where it all went. then of course, there are the allegations we have heard about his treatment of women. allegations of sexual assault. so all of these character concerns in addition to the fact that he frankly does not have the level of experience that most secretary of defense nominees have. never having run a government institution, never really having been in charge of anyone more than the size of basically a platoon. the combination of those things is why some republican senators are really starting to be more public expressing their concerns about his nomination. i will say, we have been told that there are six and maybe even more republican senators who are really leaning against voting for his nomination at this point. >> right, the department of defense, the secretary of defense has tremendous responsibilities that are 24/7. and so one could understand why

they would have some concern. serious concern. nancy, i want to bring you in here because the concerns about the rape allegation, which i must say he did deny, are still there. and his side is trying to claim those were thrown out simply because there were not charges. that doesn't mean that the allegations aren't true. he did pay this claimant and make her sign an nda. the other thing the defense department has to deal with, in august 2024, there was a brown university study showing the number of sexual assaults in the united states military is likely two to four times higher than government estimates. the study estimated there were 75,500 plus cases of sexual assault in 2021. you are a ward of an advocacy group of women who have been sexually assaulted in the military. what would it mean for women you have worked with if the head of the department of defense is somebody with these kind of accusations? >> joy, we provide pro bono

legal services to survivors, active duty members, their families, veterans, and we advocate policies to eliminate sexual assault and dismantling the meaning, harmful attitudes toward women. i have seen first-hand how the reforms, the bipartisan reforms by leaders like senator joni ernst and senator gillibrand have restored trust for survivors and encouraged more women to consider military service. women are critical to meeting military recruitment needs. the military admits there are not enough young men to fill our ranks. pete hegseth's troubling attitude and past, his opposition to women in combat, disqualifies him. survivors, their families, and advocates are watching. their leadership decision, this leadership decision will define our military future. i cannot think of a worse pick for secretary of defense, for

women who may think of serving, for survivors of sexual assault in the military. i can't imagine what our soon-to-be commander in chief was thinking. it's outrageous. >> and to come back to you, courtney, there are two sort of major cases that are actually going through the system right now, of major sexual assault allegations that are going through adjudication right now in the united states military. and so these are things that he would inherit. are senators like joni ernst expressing some of this concern in addition to the fact that if he has to be, you know, sort of baby-sat, which is your reporting, to get him on to a morning show, what happens if there's a nuclear crisis or there needs to be a drone strike at 5:00 in the morning? >> mm-hmm. yeah, the case that i keep thinking of today, because the secretary of defense job is truly a 24/7 job. we hear that, but i don't know that viewers understand the enormity of the position itself.

so i keep talking about operation noble eagle. this is the security mission for the continental united states, securing the borders. part is securing the air space. norad is responsible for that, making sure if there's anything that breaches the u.s. air space, they're tracking it. if it's an aircraft that's coming in, and it's going over an area where potentially the president could be or there's some restricted air space, the capitol or something, norad will track that aircraft and the call goes to the secretary of defense, no matter what time, day or night, that occurs. and the secretary of defense in some cases could have moments to make a decision about whether u.s. military aircraft downs an aircraft. so think of the enormity of that decision. it's not just the idea that the secretary of defense is sending men and wim nn to war, which also is the case. assigning deployment orders, sending people overseas. the enormity of the decisions involved in this, not to mention

$800 billion budget, it's an enormous responsibility for someone who has never had any kind of experience in it, frankly. >> and a weekend chat show host is not your ideal pick, let's just say that, to replace a four-star general in that job. courtney kube, i wish we had more time, and nancy, thank you both much. up next, why kash patel is so dangerous. we'll talk to a friend of the show who is on patel's enemies list, next. (♪♪) voltaren... for long lasting arthritis pain relief. (♪♪)

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fidelity, bravery, integrity. those core values said to be the motivating force behind the men and women of the fbi will be put to the test if kash patel, donald trump's pick to lead the agency, is confirmed. those values meant to be upheld to serve the country will be used instead to serve only donald trump. at least given what patel himself said just a few months ago. >> we are going to talk about how donald j. trump is not only going to win on november 5th but he's going to permanently retire the swamp monster class. these are the same people who orchestrated russia gate. they hired a foreign intelligence asset to have your fbi lie to the court, and later

used those spy powers a year, two, three later to illegally surveil all of you. this is what government gangsters do when they don't have a better policy, they sling arrows. they allow gunfire at our president. they allow assassination attempts to come to our president. >> first, none of what patel just said there is true. but that isn't going to stop him from using the fbi to go after the so-called government gangsters, an enemies list which he and trump's doj would use gangster style and which he published in his 2023 book by the name government gangsters. the list includes democrats, biden administration officials, and trump appointees like william barr, rod rosenstein, and special counsel robert hur among others. joining me is someone else who made the enemies list, andrew weissmann, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. thank you for being here. you know, in some ways kash patel comes across as ridiculous

in some of the things he says, but the fact he would be empowered to use his enemies list for real has to be a jarring experience. please tell us how it feels to be on that list. >> well, the idea that he is being nominated by the former president, somebody who has served as president to be head of the fbi is, i mean, to me, it's a piece with the nominee for the department of defense, the now withdrawn nomination for the attorney general, the now withdrawn nomination for dea. you know what, this is showing the same sort of incompetence by donald trump that we saw in the first presidency, where you have a whole series of people who sort of flame out, who are not vetted, who have all sorts of problems. and you have the chaos that nikki haley when she was running talked about.

you're seeing it in real life here. i tried not to sort of personalize it. to me, the idea, this enemies list is such a rag tag sort of group of people in a sense that what world would i be on the same list as bill barr? >> right. >> the reason for that is to have these people feel scared and to have people feel like they need to not criticize, not speak truth to power, and what bill barr is there because he didn't engage in a conspiracy to say that there was fraud in the election. that's why he's there, or patrick philbin, white house counsel who was super loyal to former president trump and represented him in the impeachments, but he wouldn't go along with overthrowing the government. i mean, the idea that those are the people on the list, and that somebody who is advocating that is being proposed to be the head

of the for mere law enforcement agency is such a sad state for not just the fbi but the safety of the american people. and finally, it's really important to remember, this is not about the nominees. this is about donald trump. these are his people who have either been withdrawn or under serious fire or are not qualified. i'm not saying all of the nominees but we're seeing there shouldn't be one who falls into that category. >> and i think william barr is on the list because he said to mark meadows apparently that kash patel would be named as a doj official over his dead body. so that probably is why he's on the list. the piece of it is i think that you really hit on is this is donald trump's heart's desire. this is not picks that are being vetted even by the fbi. they're not people who could pass an fbi background check. he's getting his heart's dewriter. he's casting his administration the way he would have wanted the

fist time, but sane people wouldn't let him and now the sane people are gone. >> absolutely. it is reminiscent of what we saw before in terms of the sort of the chaos and the lack of rigor and what i would say, the cavalier nature in which our safety, whether we're talking about safety involving the fbi or we're talking about medical safety with rfk jr., is being put at risk. but i agree with you completely that these nominees are of a completely different character. at least the ones we have been talking about. the different character and ilk than sort of trump 1.0 where rex tillerson may not have had state department background, but he was a serious person. you know, sessions and bill barr, we may disagree with all sorts of things they did, but they're serious people. they understood various norms.

they may not have always respected them, but this is a very different group that is just all in, and the idea that they would be nominated shows that trump's disrespect for the senate, and its own role in the confirmation that he thinks people like this , he can just flood the zone with these people and they'll come through. >> rex tillerson, i'm surprised he's not on the list because he reportedly called donald trump an f'ing idiot. now it's podcast bros and chat show hosts deciding whose doors get to get kicked in, who gets to be surveilled and who to prosecute. just a bunch of podcast bros and chat show hosts because they're popular with maga people who get their news from those places. all that seems fine. andrew weissmann, thank you very much. stay safe out there, my friend. >> coming up, a stunning power grab by north carolina republicans. stay with us. republicans. stay with us with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds.

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republicans in north carolina lost big in state-wide races so in the final days of their lame duck legislative session, they're acting like mobsters using a hurricane helene relief bill to strip powers from josh stein. the republican controlled state senate voted monday to override democratic governor roy cooper's veto of the bill, which was

written in secret and fast tracked with no committee hearings. governor cooper called the bill a sham and a power grab before vetoing it because it is. it strips some of the power from the governor to fill judicial vacancies and gives control over the state board of elections to the state auditor, a republican. it also requires the next attorney general, who is also a democrat, to represent the will of the general assembly. but the reality is, this is just a thing republicans do when they get executive power, they assume grating powers than intended and when they lose the power of the executive, they strip it on their way out of the door. in 2018, michigan republicans tried to diminish the powers of incoming democratic governor gretchen whitmer, only to be thwarted by a veto from outgoing republican rick snyder, which is sort of shocking since five years earlier he spearheaded a law that gave the government the power to dissolve entire governments and place emergency managers in they place, which is

how the flint water crisis happened. in 2018, republicans in wisconsin had more success with their power grab. republican scott walker shanked the democrat who beat him, tony evers, by signing a bill to limit his powers. it turns out the republicans in michigan and wisconsin were just following a model set by republicans in north carolina. then republican governor pat mccrory signed a bill stripping the governor of powers after losing to democrat roy cooper. so it's deja vu all over again, with republicans power grabbing in that state. that's coming up next. ing up ne. taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems. serious allergic reactions may occur. get help for swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens or you have a parasitic infection. headache and sore throat may occur. ask your doctor if fasenra is right for you.

north carolinians did not suffer republicans' latest power grab quietly on monday. >> the motion before the body is that the senate bill 382 to become law notwithstanding the objections of the governor. >> it destroys the will of the voters! it's voter suppression! >> everybody has got to go. clear the gallery. >> mr. president? you can't clear the whole gallery. a lot of the people here are being respectful, and here to see what is happening. this is the people's house. >> despite those protests, the north carolina senate overrode governor roy cooper's veto of a bill stripping powers from incoming democratic governor josh stein and other top democrats under the guise of hurricane relief. joining me now is bishop william barber, president of

repairs of the breach and founding director of the center for public theology and public policy at yale divinity school. i'm just going to put up on the screen, bishop, what this bill does, prohibit the attorney general from taking legal positions contrary to legislature, creates new superior court positions nominated to legislative leaders, requires counties to count ballots faster, so it is also going after voters, not just the governor. this is deja vu all over again, no? >> it is. it is a coup, a legislative coup and this is bs, really. this is not about the hurricane. 13 pages of a 132 page bill is dedicated to hurricane relief and it is not enough money that they really need. the republicans got this power, joy, when the justice department approved a racist redistricting plan ray back in 2012. we have been fighting it and we have been winning, so now what is happening, they lost the super majority. north carolina is not a purple or red state. if you removed the racist

redistricting, it really is a blue state, so we want all of the state offices except the auditor, and they don't have a super majority anymore and they are afraid. so, going out the door, joy, they said, we are going to go after the governor, we are going to put the board of elections under the auditor's office because the auditor is a republican, and that is who imparts the members. we are going to strip the attorney general power, we are going to strip the school board superintendent of power, we are going to make it so that absentee ballots will have to be counted the night of where we know for some counties, it took a week for them to get the directions. they are going to cut down the time you can get your corrections in tow 2 1/2 days as opposed to a week. this is nothing but fear and a power grab. those protesters yesterday, and we plan to bring a whole lot of people, republicans, democrats, everybody on next monday. they may do this but not in the dark and not without legal

challenges. >> and by the way, just to show you what they want to retain, when republicans have had a republican super majority, they instituted a 12 week abortion ban, a "don't say gay" bill, redistricting map with giving themselves with receipts, election law changes, been on offender care for minors, and anti-di bill. when they don't have a super majority bill, you get expanded medicaid, criminal justice reform, prison reform, covid relief. it is clear they want to lock in right-wing policy by essentially ignoring the voters. >> they want to ignore the will of the voters, their candidate who clear the room, mr. robinson, lost by nearly 800,000 votes and he is trying to clear the room, he needs to clear out. the bottom line is, you are right. and they instituted policies of debt. when they deny medicaid, when they used their super majority to deny medicaid, they denied 350,000 who were white, 170 something thousand who were black. it is the worst kind of

legislative coup. that is why when they had a super majority, went on for two more years, nearly 2000 people arrested. we took them to court and joy, i want folks to know, we beat them, that is why they are doing this. we beat them. they no longer have a super majority. they know they are losing. they cannot win at the state level. we are the only states that consistently has elected a democratic governor, democratic attorney general, except one time with mccourty, and he only served one term, because all of the organizing ended up creating a wave, drove numbers into nothing, and he lost. and to use hurricane relief, people who are hurting, to use this as a cover is the worst kind of coup. >> indeed. i know you will be fighting it, bishop william barber, thank you very much and that is tonight's "the reidout" -- "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight, on "all in" --