thanks for spending some time with us here on "the beat." you can always find me online at ari melber across social. or go to arimelber.com. put many your email address to keep in touch directly, read my newsletter, and all that good stuff. thanks for, again, spending time was. if you're not on the internet, come back tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. we're done tonight, but we'll keep up with you. the read out with joy reid starts now. >> tonight on the reid out. >> we really believe that he is not that man he was seven years ago. let's go back seven year, which if we all went back seven years we would see that maybe we were not the people we are today. i mean, and that was seven years

ago. he's redeemed, forgiven, changed. i think i we all are after seven years. get to know him, not the pete from seven years ago. >> how many years are we talking about, ma'am? who is the same perp they were way, way, way back in 018. but as pete hegseth and his mom keep up their pr campaign, trump continues to fill his administration with billionaires, celebrities, and loyalists. also tonight, if putin's happy, trump's happy. and trump's cabinet choices have made vladimir putin very, very happy. plus, the conservative supreme court justices echo right wing talking points in a major frans rights case with little doubt as to how that decision will go. but we begin tonight with the apprentice, white house edition. now, people who watched the show the apprentice and became ennam morred by donald trump because of it just assumed that he was the one in charge.

but that is not actually how it worked. the professionals, producers behind the scenes, called the shots, and trump had just one job, to strut into that conference room set built by the apprentice team in trump tower and say this. >> tammy, you got in the way of your team and you're disloyalty has been just terrible. and you sort of understood that. >> throughout or just this one particulars that snk. >> let's say it doesn't matter. i mean, it was so obnoxious in this particular case, tammy, you're fired. >> okay, now maybe people who voted for him didn't understand that trump was not behind all of that, but as his embarrassing cabinet picks are piling up into an epic train wreck, it's revealing something pretty critical, that without the benefit of competent professionals telling him exactly what to do, donald trump tends to hire only the worst

people. he's not the great businessman the apprentice sold him as. that was an act, which he, frankly, did really well. but real life trump is only functional when he's surrounded by people who do all the work. while left to his own devices, his companies fail. in fact, his main skills seem to be getting his father or star struck big banks to bail him out after the failures of his hotels and casinos. but left to just do whatever he wants to do, donald trump tends to foul up. the character he played on the apprentice is not real. and now we are seeing in real time what it looks like when he does get to pick whoever he wants to fill out his white house. free from all the pinhead washington types counseling him. and you know what he's doing? he's choosing alleged rapists, sex pests, grifters, and random people he likes watching on tv. matt gaetz went up in flames as

his attorney general pick over allegations of sexual misconduct involving a 17-year-old girl. and as for nepo baby rfk jr., his children's former nanny says he sexually assaulted her. both men denied the allegations. there's tv dr. mehmet oz still hocking herbal supplements from a company he invests in while tapped to lead the centers for medicaid and medicare services. and there's the picasso enthusiast with no military experience chosen to lead the navy. trump is like a little kid picking a cabinet. i like that one, that one seems cool, central casting. and his latest flame out is a telling example. trump's choice to lead the drug enforcement administration, the agency that sates international drug crime, chad chronister, is a florida sheriff with virtually no experience in the kinds of complex international

investigations the agency handles. after declaring it an honor, he withdrew. the trouble with chronister was not that he isn't qualified to lead the dea, which he's not, in fact, his main attribute for getting picked seems to be he's married to the daughter of a billionaire. former san francisco 49ers owner edward jr., who was pardoned in 2020. he had been convicted in a gambling fraud scandal. the main issues for the right were twofold. in 2020 he arrested a pastor who violated the covid orders to keep places of worship closed. and he made comments in 2023 about the rich diversity of his community and called it a place where people from all walks of life come together. diversity? ew, unacceptable. there's the biggest political washout of them all, former fox weekend morning host pete hegseth, who may want to see if there's room for him back on that curvy couch, because his

nomination as defense secretary faces further jeopardy following the litany of allegations against him, including rape, sexually inappropriate behavior, his own mother once calling him an abuser of women, an alleged drinking problem, accusations of organizational mismanagement, all of which he denies. that is on top of him having no experience whatsoever running any agency, let alone one near the scale of the dod. hegseth remains defiant, releasing an op-ed claiming he won't back down. he was back on the hill today meeting with republican senators, but as nbc news report, he may not have the votes. as many as six senate republicans, perhaps more, are currently not comfortable supporting hegseth's bid to lead the pentagon. hegseth sat down with megan kelly today to defend himself and claim trump has his back. >> i spoke to him this morning, megan, i mean, he's amazing. he's a fighter. he's been through this himself, and he told me the last thing he

said to me, well two things he said to me when he left his office when he chose me was -- well, besides what he said about being a war fighter. we can get into that. was you're going to need to be tough as [ bleep ] you're going to need to be tough as [ bleep ] he paused again as i was walking away and said, you're man for this moment. >> yeah, okay, man, trump subpoena already look at possible replacements, which include governor pudding finger himself, the worst governor in america, ron desantis. it's not really much of a step up, although i don't claims of sexual harassment or sexual assault against the florida governor, which may be where the bar is set these days. desantis is, of course, the guy who signed a bill allowing the police to crack down on protests, locked up voters who'd served their felony sentences, and looked the other way when nazis marched in his state with desantis signs. he okayed detention camps for homeless people, passed the

anti-lgbtq don't say gay law in schools, pushed the most book bans in the last school year in all of america, and used taxpayer money to fly migrants to martha's vineyard, just to troll the libs. perfect, giant step up, mr. apprentice. joining me now is tara, founder of the seneca project and former republican communications director, john, former chief marketer for our sister network nbc, who led the team that marketed trump on the apprentice. and paul, founder and ceo of independent veterans of america and host of the independent americans podcast. thank you all for being here. i want to go to you first, john. i sort of talked about the apprentice, but i want you to give us more clarity. i showed a scene of donald trump saying you're fired and saying why they were fired, how much input did donald trump actually have into the production of the show? was he the fleerd terms of who was on the show? was he the leader in terms of who got hired, who got fired? >> well, he didn't really have

that much control over who was in the show, that was cast by mark burnett and the various people based on whatever the concept of the show was that season. the one thing he was in control of was once he got into the boardroom, he had the ability to say who is -- who's fired and who is hired. and he would use his own sort of strange way to do that. how good they did in the task really was not one of them. but it was based on, as you saw in the clip, based on loyalty, based on his own thing. in many ways, the people who you would think would have won the task often didn't because they did something that made him a little upset. and so he went a different way. and then the show had to be sort of reedited to make it look like that person was not quite as good. that's the way it was. as far as what the tasks were or how it was set up or how it was shot or it was edited, he really had very little to do with that. he had an awful lot to do with

what was in the boardroom which featured him. >> the boardroom was not the original boardroom. it had to be redone because the old boardroom was so old. >> the boardroom was a set. as was the entranceway. his boardroom was a little bit too shabby to be used. >> are you surprised, having worked with him, that his picks have been so weird? >> no, not really. particularly after the first go around, and now having done this, he -- you're sort of seeing the real donald trump. the criteria that he's using is firstly loyalty and secondly in that same vein sort of a one plus, i don't know, version of that was how well the -- his people who he selected will do his bidding for whatever he wants. next is how much they have praised him, because that is very important to him, how much

they give to him and how public that was done. and then next he is sort of being his own casting agent as sort of how they look in the job. number five, well done that list if there could be six, seven, through nine that i can't think of right now, but the last one would be actual ability to do the job based on credentials or experience. >> yeah. >> that does not seem to be important. >> it does not. paul, that bring mess to pete hegseth, and because this is is biggest single agency in the federal government. this is 3 million people. it is a multi-- multihundreds of billions of dollars a year. $3 trillion, i think, a year. it's a huge agency, a huge organizational beast, and it seems like donald trump picked pete hegseth because he likes him on tv. talk about what that might mean on top of all of the allegations against him. there are a lot of women in the military who've got to be

thinking, okay, this guy might not be a leader that we want. does he seem like a leader of men and women that you would feel confident in as dod, as head of the department of defense? >> he's the most radical, most political nomination for secretary of defense in american history. i also think he's the least qualified and now maybe the most disqualified, which is also really important to underscore here. i mean, on the policy standpoint, which can't go by the wayside, he says he wants women out of combat roles, which means he believes that women are not equal to men. he's going to have to make that case to joni ernst today. he met with her. i think that's the key elinchpin to this entire nomination is whether or not he can convince a republican, much more moderate, compared to him, anyway, come bat veteran who was herself a victim of sexual assault that his policy positions are something she should support. then there's all the other political baggage. we're going to find out how good pete hegseth is on tv now, because he's going to be in the

fire. he's got his mother out there. which i think is -- i said this earlier, i can't imagine what it would take for me to put my mother on tv to try to defend me. the as really sad kind of moment, but that's what trump requires. trump requires loyalty. he requires fealty u but he's not going to return it. trump is shopping around. he may be looking at desantis. he may look at joni ernst herself, which would be a historic pick. and there may be others we're not considering. this is going down hill fast. i think it comes down to moderate senators that can flip literally any minute now. >> to talk about, tara, the kind of choices that donald trump has made, just historically, let me give you three pieces of data. 25% of the people on -- kash patel, this is kash patel's book, he had an enemies list listed in the back. he would be the head of the fbi. 25% of the enemies list are people trump hired. this is them on the board.

if you look at the trump associates that have been indicted in connection to donald trump that list is also quite large. these are the people indicted. trump hired these people and now they face indictment or have already been convicted. he has appointed two people who served in prison to his administration. he himself is not going to be in prison because he's president so he doesn't get to get sentenced, but he is also a felon. peter navarro in prison for contempt of congress. trump nominated charles kushner, jared kushner's father-in-law who he pardoned in 2020 as u.s. ambassador to france. and he's also hired people who have said the following things about him, tara, because john miller said he likes people who praise him. these people have not. jd vance called him america's hitler. rfk jr. called him a sociopath. pete hegseth called him an armchair tough guy. tulsi gabbard called him saudi arabia's -- to you what does

that say about his leadership? >> the guy bankrupted casinos. i mean -- >> in atlantic city. >> yes, and my home state of new jersey. he has terrible judgement. he said in front of students to never have anyone smarter than you in the room. this is who donald trump is. he blew through tens of millions of dollars of his father's money by the time he was 35. he needed his daddy to bail him out multiple times. the guy has failed up his entire life and now he is the president of the united states again. i think this says more about our judgement as a society than it does about donald trump's, but that's a different conversation. the guy has no integrity and neither do the people around him. i blame the enablers. i have been saying this for years. if it weren't for these people, every one of those people that said what they said about donald trump meant it at the time, they're right. he's all of those things. but for them it was more

important to be relevant, to have political power, to feel liked or whatever the hell it was that intoxicated them so much that it ripped their souls and their integrity out of their bodies and turned them into these eenablers that have enabled this guy to do what he has done to this country and to bring us to where we are, to the point where we are having a discussion about a guy who is a serial philanderer, who has a drinking problem potentially, according to people around him, who is so rife with potential compromise and so compromised by our enemies because of all these things that we are having a serious conversation with senators in the united states senate saying like, let me think about whether he's qualified or not to lead the most important fighting force in the world. it's asinine. the fact that pete hegseth is even considered speaks volumes not only about donald trump's terrible judgement but everybody around him, that they would be willing to come pro promise our national security, our standing in the world, the respect of the

men and women who wear the uniform that they would risk all of that to placate donald freaking trump is a disgraceful message to send to not only our men and women in uniform but to the world looking at us. they're laughing at us. >> let me play some of those enablers. here are four members of the united states senate who have to consider this. this is cynthia of wyoming, ted cruz of texas, and teddy tuberville. here they are. >> they're throwing disparaging remarks at someone who has earned a great deal of credibility. are soldiers sometimes wild childs? yeah, that can happen. >> the democrats and the press are obsessed with personal accusations. >> and you don't have any concerns about the allegations against him in the new yorker article, sir? >> no, i've looked at all the personal stuff, and again, i've known him far long time, and i would -- there's not going to be anything to this at the end of

the day. >> paul? >> when tommy tuberville is your lead advocate, your nomination's in big trouble. i mean, he knows so little about the military, about national security, this is same guy who held up dozens of jens on a personal political quest, and he's not very good at it either. he's not making a very compelling case. and he most of all has to convince moderate republicans. the people you're talking about are back pinchers or loyalists or radicals themselves. tommy tuberville most of all. this is not your strongest hand to put forward if you've got a nomination that's surging. and i think what we've seen -- he circumvented the process. trump's trying to throw a hail mary here. he's trying to push the democrats. whey keep telling folks is it's not normal, it's not acceptable, and it's not inevitable. we can fight back, whether you're an independent a democrat, or a republican, hold the line here, put patriotism

first. that will move a couple of moderate senators. that's all you need. move four and hegseth goes down. and then we'll have somebody else to deal with, who will probably also be ridiculous but won't be hegseth. >> the only duty these senators have is to the constitution and their country. they do not have a duty to donald trump. somebody needs to whisper that in their ear. thank you very mump. and coming up, as tucker carlson returns to his belove, beloved russia, the kremlin has been literally high fiving trump's cabinet picks. i wonder why. and what that says about us next. and what that says about u next rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye: too much tear evaporation. for relief that's ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ remove contact lenses before using miebo. wait at least 30 minutes before putting them back in. eye redness and blurred vision may occur. ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪

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we are, unbeknownst to most americans, in a hot war with russia, an undeclared war, one you did not vote for and most americans did not want, but it is ongoing. because of that war, because of the fact that the u.s. military is killing russians in russia right now, we are closer to nuclear war than at any time in history. >> fired fox host tucker carlson has returned to russia to interview foreign minister sergey lavrov, you remember, the guy donald trump allegedly revealed classified information to the first time he was president while in the white house with russian but not u.s. media present in the room. the subject of the tucker interview was the ongoing war in ukraine. recall that carlson traveled there earlier this year, sitting

down for a quite -- interview with vladimir putin. it was putin's first interview with an american, quote, journalist since before his invasion of ukraine. and by interview, we mean an exchange of anti-ukrainian propaganda, distortion, and lies. tucker isn't the only darling of russian state tv that's making noise, some of putin's loudest mouthpieces are just giddy over the clown car that is trump's proposed cabinet. per reporting by julia davis of the daily beast, who monitors russian state tv, host vladimir and host and head of rt margarita are rejoicing over trump's pick, especially kash patel and pete hegseth, predicting, quote, they will quickly dismantle america brick by brick. joining me now is michael mcfall, former u.s. ambassador

to russia and an msnbc international affairs analyst. ambassador mcfall, thank you for being here. your thoughts on the equivalent of, you know, russian 60 minutes, the host therein giddy and laughing that donald trump's picks for his cabinet, particularly kash patel and pete hegseth, will dismantle america brick by brick. >> well first, one qualification, it's the equivalent of their 60 minutes except if 60 minutes controlled 100% by the kremlin. when you hear from them, these are not just independent journalists giving their opinion, these are opinions closely coordinated with the kremlin. and once said that, it's even worse. because you're right, they're cheering on those people, particularly the ones you just named, cabinet picks. they're not so sxielted about some eithers. maybe senator rubio, for instance, is not as popular, but

they like these folks for one reason. putin has a theory of the american deep state, and he thinks the american deep state is antithetical to russian interests. he thinks these people are going to weaken the so-called deep state. revolution against the state, right? if we're having a revolutionary fight within the u.s. government, within the pentagon, within the fbi, within the intelligence community, who benefits from that? vladimir putin. >> right. and i can imagine that the idea of, you know, what -- whoever the defense secretary will be we can presume they'll have the same ageneralda. they call it dismantling the, quote,unquote, woke agenda. by woke they generally mean any minority. lgbtq people, people of color, they want to run them out. they want to, in hegseth's case, take away the prohibitions on people with certain tattoos that

the -- reduce the amount of extremism, if they're fighting over that and not letting women get reproductive care, those are the fights they're having, that helps the kremlin, i'm assuming. >> exactly. you're talking about our warriors, right? i'm using that word on purpose. our warriors that defend america, not just against russia but also china. if we're not equipping them to do their job in deterring an attack on the united states, shoring up our nato allies so that we don't have to fight vladimir putin, it's incorrect what tuck ere said, by the way, we're in a war with russia, close to nuclear war, that's hogwash. but our job, we want to defend america, that's what the warriors at the pentagon want to do. and if we're having -- declaring war against them, that benefits our adversaries. it's just straight up, it's black and white. if we're fighting them, they are not doing their job to protect the american people. >> let me read you a little bit more. russian state tv, this is more

of this reporting. the cohost of russia's version of 60 minutes described trump's picks as his radical dream team and noted all of them personally despise zelenskyy. he added, they aren't friends of russia, xeps for tulsi gabbard. one more thing, julia davis also reported during sunday's broadcast of state tv, a program putin watches regularly, the host aired a clip of kash patel ethreatening to upend the fbi's operations. he said trump's nominee to head the fbi, kash patel, is simply on fire. he's tremendously, really, really good. what do you think that they think they'll get out of somebody, you know, like either of these two people, kash patel or any of them? what do they think that they'll do to their respective agencies, particularly tulsi gabbard. >> first i hope he's wrong.

i want to be clear about that. i hope that maybe they're giddy about things that might not happen here. but what they're hoping for is the destruction and the weakening of the intelligence community in the united states. what they're hoping for is the weakening of the fbi. these are agencies -- they have a phrase for it in russian, these are the strong ministries. these are the ministries that do the most to defend the united states against russia, and if we weaken these kinds of agencies, the cia, fbi, the pentagon, that makes russia better off. and so if he says you're a great hire, that makes me nervous. i used to know him. he is no friend of the united states. he is an enemy of the united states. he is paid by the kremlin to propagate against american national interests. >> and there's tucker carlson cheering it all on and cheering against ukraine on russian soil.

you can't make this up. ambassador michael mcfaul, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks. the right has successfully made the transgender community their scapegoat, which was even more evident today in the horrifying rhetoric coming from conservative supreme court justices. more on that next. conservative t justices more on that next. liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. with the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. oh! right in the temporal lobe! beat it, punks! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪

america's dealing with many issues from grocery prices to gun violence, which is the number one cause of death for kids and teens. but the one issue that republicans successfully exploited in this year's elections was their fear of the transgender community. republicans spent at least, get this, $215 million on anti-trans tv ads with the most prominent coming from the trump campaign itself. >> kamala even supports letting biological men compete against our girls in their sports. kamala is for they/them, president trump is for you. >> trump's argument was that vice president kamala harris is fighting for they/them while he's fighting for you. aaron reed, an independent journalist covering lgbtq issues tracked trump's campaign spending and found they spent, okay, more money on anti-trans ads than they did on housing,

immigration, and -- combined. transgender adults make up 0.5%, not 5%, 0.5% of the population or 1.3 million americans out of like 320 million. there are a little over 300,000 transgender youths in america. that's 1.4% of all young people between ages 13 and 17. that would be the u numerical equivalent of the republican party targeting the entire city of phoenix, arizona, population 1.65 million, because they don't like the decert landscape. in fact, there are more kids that have been exposed to gun violence, estimated at 3 million, than there are transgender americans of all ages in total. targeting trans people isn't new. it is an age old tradition which nazi germany did with brutally violent ends in the 1930s. while the supreme court refuses to do anything about weapons of war in schools, today they seemed inclined to uphold tennessee's ban on gender affirming care for minors. while the decision is not expected for months, a majority

of the justices parroted a string of debunked talking points, all under the guise of protecting the kids, just not every kid. >> you say there are benefits from allowing these etreatments, but there are also harms, right, from allowing these treatments. at least the state say so, including lost fertility, the physical and psychological effects on those who later change their mind and want to detransition, which i don't think we can ignore. >> my understanding is that the constitution leaves that question to the people's representatives rather than to nine people, none of whom is a doctor. >> joining me now is kelly robinson, president of the human rights campaign. good to see you. detransition, this is one of the things you do hear often when people talk about trans people, that a majority of people who get gender affirming care later change their minds. statistically is that true? >> no, it is not. it's blatantly false. when we talk about that care,

gender affirming care, we're talking about care that has decades of research behind it. every major medical organization in this country supports. i think the particular question in front of the supreme court, whether or not trans kids should have the same access to healthcare as every other kid, this is disturbing to me as a parent. look, i cannot imagine being in a position where my child needs access to life-saving care, care that i agree to, their pediatrician agrees to, and a politician stands in the way of that. anyone that's watching this right now should be outraged. if they can do this to trans kids, they can do it to any of our kids. >> the arguments today in the supreme court, which you listened to, were about protecting girls. they didn't care about protecting teenage girls pregnant by rape, but we'll move on from that, mr. alito's decision on, that but the idea of protecting girls, what were the arguments like in court today? and what would be the counterargument -- you're more likely to get hit by a bus in central park than you are to ever meet a trans kid.

there are almost none of them. they don't exist anywhere. there are very few of them. the idea they are a threat to girls, especially in sports. >> i mean, it's heartbreaking. that's part of the misinformation and lies they've been peddling against the trans community for months. you mentioned this earlier, this is not new. the same sort of lies they're telling about the trans community they've said about black women before, they've said about immigrants before. this is all fear mongering to take us away from the fundamental issue. the question before the supreme court today was a question of whether or not trans kids deserve equal protection under the constitution or not, making sure that they get the same access to healthcare as every other child in this country can get. the question before them is about discrimination. if we're in a world where we're allowing any small group of people to be discriminated against, we're in trouble. the trans community represents less than 1% of the population in america. we've seen over 400 bills targeting this community alone. let's be clear, this is dangerous that they are taking such efforts. >> why do you think there's such

an obsession over a tiny population? >> i think it's about fear. my community has experienced this before. a lot of people don't know people who are trans or nonbinary. >> or they don't know they know. >> exactly. we have an opportunity to share the reality of their lives. when i was at the supreme court today, that's what i actually saw. i saw hundreds and hundreds of families from all across the country that were there to affirm their kid's identity and to show every trans kid watching there are adults, there are people across this country that have your back, and sharing the joyful stories, not the stories of harm we so often hear in the media. >> if this goes the way i think it's going to go and tennessee wins, what do you think? >> i don't think we have a crystal ball to interpret what the supreme court is going to do. gorsuch was the one that actually authored the majority opinion that affirmed you cannot be discriminated against on the basis of sex or gender identity in the workplace. a district judge appointed by donald trump was the person to put in an injunction on the ban

in tennessee. so i'm hoping if they follow the facts, if they follow the science, there is a path for them to do the right thing, to stand on the side of the law and on the side of the constitution. if they don't, we're going to do what we've always done and keep showing up. what i see right now happening is a momentum of people understanding what's at stake, not just for the trans community but for all of our communities if we allow our freedoms to be encroached upon. >> as somebody who is a leader of a civil rights organization trying to defend the lgbtq communities, how do you feel about the fact that there was more money spent attacking trans people and trans kids in this election than anything. the economy, jobs, immigration, dwarfed by this, why? how do you feel about that? >> it's heartbreaking. >> yeah. >> i mean, to think we're in an era of politics where adults, politicians, are spending so much time bullying our children, that is disheartening to me. at a time when we need to be finding unity and bringing people together and focus on how to make sure we're ending things like gun violence in our communities, ensuring each child

has a chance to thrive. what also gives many hope is this was an historic day. the court has never heard a case on gender affirming care. we've never had a trans person argue a case in front of the supreme court. we've never had people like sarah mcbride walk the halls of congress as an out trans person. so even in our darkest moments, i think there are still pieces of light that we can't ignore. we've got to hold on to that, because that's the only thing that's going to get us through the next few years. >> i think you need to call me every day for an uplifting conversation. you and those adorable earrings that i want. they're super cute. kelley robinson, you've made me feel better. i went in real cynical, but darn it, i feel better. thank you for being here. the growing problem with twitter/x, and why people need to jump ship. don't go anywhere from here, but definitely get off of there. but definitely get off of there. inet on the family journey that led to you. learn when they said, “i do.” ♪♪ when they became heroes. ♪♪

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findahandspecialist.com to get started. okay, i want to show you a chart tracking a trend of people leaving twitter. it's been happening since elon flipped the birdie to x. the black line you can see falling to the bottom, right, is x. the biggest exodus followed elon's new terms of service which include user's content being used to train the a.i. bot, taking effect as musk helped trump win the presidency. the south african born billionaire, whose family left after apartheid ended when nelson mandela was elected

president, has gone from being the embodiment of an dposhgsz trump's favorite emotional support billionaire. he's playing an increasing role in trump's promise to be a dictator on day one. he's threatened the brother of a congressman elect who played a role in trump's first impeachment. saying he committed treason and will pay the appropriate penalty. and as our next guest write, his platform x is making meaningful discourse -- quote, research consistently showed that right wing content often outperformed progressive con tent in terms of engagement. what we are now seeing under musk is different. it's explicit, intentional manipulation of the platform to serve a specific idealogical agenda. parker maloy wrote that in her publication, the present age, and she joins me now. say more, what is elon further doing to further degrade twitter? >> sure, thanks so much for

having me. yeah, so i think that the point you brought up there about alexander vindman and what musk said about treason and all that is actually a perfect example of the dangerous way that musk uses x. he accused a decorated military veteran of treason a capital offense, simply because vindman criticized him. and this is exactly why people are leaving x. it's not just about disagreeing with musk's politic, it's about how he's transformed the platform into a weapon against his critics when the owner can basically accuse someone of baseless crimes and promise retribution, when the platform amplifies that, it's not healthy for discourse anymore. >> you say the stand and fight argument is flawed, why? >> you can't stay and fight on a platform that's rigged against

you. x isn't just biassed. if you believe the reporting that's out there, it's systematically designed to suppress certain voices through its algorithm. and the old twitter was never actually rigged against conservatives, which was a common claim that they made. what's happening now under musk is completely different. it's intentional manipulation of what users see and engage with. >> and what's happening simultaneously is twitter, x/twitter, is going down in terms of usership, and bluesky is shooting up. because i will note that mark zuckerberg throttles content in a similar way. both of those sites suppress links. they don't want you to post a direct link. they want you to give them content, which feeds their robot, and then you can put a link in a reply. that's the way it works on x/twitter. they don't do that on bluesky. >> what you just said about links is huge. that takes it back to the social

media of old where writers could get their stuff shared and build an audience through that. now that's almost impossible. but one reason i think that people like bluesky in particular, which i'm on bluesky. >> same. >> and i enjoy it. yes. it's a place that reminds me of what twitter used to be. it's not an echo chamber. it's not a place where every single person agrees with me. i get in debates with people on their all the time. but it's nowhere near as toxic and i don't have to worry about literal nazis in my mentions. and that's a low bar, but they've managed to so far meet it. >> what do you suppose is behind this idea that some on the right have floated that basically they think that people on the left are required to subject themselves to the abuse of the right otherwise they're anti-free speech. >> sure. well, as i've written in the

past, i think that there is something to the fact that reactionaries on the right really need people on the left to troll, to bully, to pile on, and it's just -- it's a one-way thing. you don't see people on the left flooding truth social and gab and all of those right wing networks to respond biden is your president or whatever. >> yeah. >> but you do see it the other way around. and i think that that's really interesting. and i think that it's ultimately going to hurt x's relevance. as the discussion becomes more and more one sided it's going to be harder for organizations and journalists and thought leaders to say that x is the place to be to spread their message. >> yeah, it's not a town square when one side thinks the purpose of the town square is to troll and attack you thinking that

that is forced engagement that they're forcing on you. nobody wants to engage with them so they're not happy on x/twitter alone. they want to come over to where the regular people are and troll us. it maybes no sense. parker maloy, and i do follow you on bluesky, hopefully you'll follow me back. thank you so much. the last house race has finally been called. despite their boasting about a landslide, republicans have a teensy tiny margin. don't go anywhere. e teensy tiny margin don't go anywhere. my eye doctor explained the root was inflammation. xiidra was made for that, so relief is lasting. xiidra treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease. don't use if allergic to xiidra and seek medical help if needed. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort, blurred vision, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch container tip to your eye or any surface. before using xiidra, remove contact lenses and wait fifteen minutes before re-inserting. dry eye over and over? it's time for xiidra.

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election day was almost a month ago, but since a lot of these races take some time to count, nbc news was finally able to call the last race in the house. democrat adam gray will flip the seat in california's 13th district, winning by a margin of less than 200 votes, which just goes to show you that even if you don't live in a swing state, your vote still matters. this means republicans will hold a razor thin majority in the 119th congress, with 220 seats to the democrats' 215. an even tighter margin than they are used to working with. and it is probably going to get even smaller, at least temporarily, since trump picked two republican members to serve in his administration, and matt gaetz says he will not join the next congress after his failed bid for attorney general. meeting for the first couple of months, house republicans will

only be able to afford to lose just one single vote on legislation. this is all just further proof that this election was not the landslide or "sweeping mandate" that trump and his maga cronies want you to think it was. in the popular vote, trump is now below 50%. in fact, his margin of victory over vice president kamala harris has shrunk to just one .6%, which is smaller than that of every winning president since 1888, other than john f. kennedy in 1960 and richard nixon in 1968. as mehdi hoschton writes for the guardian, trump, the 49.9% president, doesn't represent the popular will. yes, he won the election fair and square and won the popular vote for the first time, but if we are to prevent him from expanding his power in the overall office, we must resist this election lie, we must not allow him to pretend that he has some sort of special mandate for controversial policies and personality. that is two nights "the reidout". follow me on bluesky at jo