good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. unmasking a suspected killer. new york city police releasing these first images showing the

full face of the personal they believe gunned down a healthcare ceo. the latest on the man hunt and possible motive. could it be connected to words written on bullet casings? plunge, doge drama. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy pitch to lawmakers, but is it realistic to cut $2 trillion from the federal budget? and say it ain't snow. a foot or more forecast for parts of the northeast and great lakes on top of some spots that have seen 5 feet. oh. winter doesn't even officially start for two more weeks. we begin with the dramatic new clues on day two of an intensifying search for the gunman who carried out a targeted attack on a promise innocent ceo in midtown manhattan. new pictures of the suspect have been released showing him for the first time unmasked, including one where he's smiling. also new. bullet casings found at the scene of brian thompson's murder

had the words deny, defense, and depose written on them. and prior to the crime, we're learning the suspect made a trip to starbucks where he purchased itemed that have been recovered by police. potential sources of dna. priscilla thompson is reporting from new york city. here in studio, tom winter. what do we know about the bullet casings, tom? >> one of the things we have to keep if mind, we've got these words written on there. does it speak to a motive? a message this suspect is trying to send, but it can also be a diversion, too. you have to consider those things as well. does it have a broader meaning? i think it's important as soon as i say that to say the nypd

thinks this is a targeted attack from everything that police have said that they've uncovered. is there any indication he's going after any other individuals? no, but i think when you look at the totality of this investigation at this point, it's clear this person was on a particular mission and that they were definitely going after this person. what type of message they were trying to send, why they were doing that, what they were up to leading up to it is something that obviously nypd and the detective bureau is going over right now. one of the things they've uncovered, the images we're looking at on screen. this coming from a hostel on the upper west side of manhattan where apparently he had stayed at one point and so they were able to -- >> do they know if he was there the night before? >> specific timing is just some reporting. we're still in the process of double checking and verifying. but detectives had been at this location. they looked at the surveillance video and it's one of the few times apparently where he is without that mask pulled up we're seeing here.

those are still images from the still video at the starbucks. at some point, he goes in there and purchases two protein or energy bars. purchases a bottle of water. discards them according to video. you can imagine how many water bottles are in a new york city trash can on a corner or side of the street. they have to go to the starbucks. say, okay, which way did he go when he left the starbucks? to the next business. do we have video there? okay, he's going this direction, walking down the block. so on and so forth down the block. and this is all prior to the shooting to be able to figure out where was he. then they see on video at a certain point, he just tossed this in the trash or just threw this on the side of the sidewalk. we've got to immediately go there and see if it's there and if it matches up because you have to have a sense of chain of custody of that evidence to make sure, oh, it's that water bottle. the only water bottle of that type in the same election where he threw it in the trash bag. that's the type of actual shoe

leather work that goes into it by the detective bureau. one of the things that's changed so much over the years is to put this information on nypd smartphones. they're reviewing the evidence, looking over this video. they're in their vans and cars we see on the street then sending it to the detectives saying hey, look, right here. it's this trash can located at this address. you should go there now and see if you can find it. that's the type of work being done. it speeds up investigations. one of the reasons why over the past couple of years, particularly in midtown manhattan, where there's so many cameras and videos that exist, they're able to get to the point where they can put somebody to custody or determine who that individual is. that's the type of work that's going on right now. the type of work that was going on mostly yesterday. for sure, they're ahead of where they were at and so that's the type of information we're trying

to gather. we'll see how lucky we are. >> yeah, we know this is a city where there are cameras everywhere. what else do we know about trying to put together the pieces to hopefully catch up with this guy? >> reporter: yeah, well, all of this surveillance footage could be key in helping to bring this man hunt to an end and bring the suspected gunman in for a number of reasons. one is that you now have this new surveillance video you were discussing where you see clearly the suspected gunman's face unmasked. so you can imagine those images are going to be all over tv screens. all over newspapers, so they could potentially lead to some leads in figuring out where that person is now or if he's been seen anywhere now. the other thing is that the nypd is going to be able to run that through their facial recognition software and potentially get hits there that could lead them further along, but also as they're collecting this surveillance video, they're able to interview people who may have seen the suspected gunman or

spoken to the suspected gunman. so they're getting a fuller picture of where this individual was in the hours and potentially days leading up to this crime and also where that person could be now, which is of course all going to be crucial in bringing this to an end and ultimately getting that person under arrest. chris? >> thank you for that. police have video of the suspect before, during, and after the shooting. they know the escape route he took. you can see it where he was last seen in central park. even with all this photographic evidence, what are the challenges? i think when you listen to tom's description, this is a police department that's really good at this and yet this guy's still on the loose. >> well, new york city's huge and there's so many people in there. so to, i think there's three parts. yesterday, they were trying to identify the person and the fingerprints on the water bottles that may be in the trash can can maybe help identify now that they have a full picture of

his face, they can use facial recognition to identify. then they have to locate. so putting his picture out allows a public who may not know him to at least identify him. then there's parts of the investigation that will go to court. like the water bottle fingerprints may not be valuable in court, but the fingerprint rounds stripped out there. there were three shell casings that have writing on them. if you look at the video, the gun malfunctions and he put live rounds on the ground. he probably loaded that magazine without gloves on. so those rounds that have fingerprints go into the case to put him at the weapon with those rounds and that's critical when it goes to court. everything else, identify, locate, then later on, the trial. so there's so much going on and

that's why nypd is huge and it's also a huge city. if he got out of the immediate city quickly, it's even more problems. now you're into man hunt in multiple states. >> let me start with the id part of it because when we talked about the water bottle, the energy bars thrown out by the gunman after his visit to starbucks. whether it's fingerprints or whether it's dna, how much of the population is on databases that law enforcement can access so there might be a match? >> it's surprising how long. fingerprints are probably the quickest. dna takes a little bit more time. fingerprints, if you can get them to an examiner, the latent prints are run and they have a computer model then examiners. if he got that suppresser legally, that has to be a federal stamp through the atf and it requires certain things. so he could have put fingerprints in for that. in for something else. obviously, i don't think he,

like, this hardened criminal, but he may have applied to things that required fingerprints that are going to be in the system. so fingerprints are going to be first. dna takes a little bit of time but they may put it in there and get a hit from one of the dna ancestry kits that come up. so they're going to do all of it at the same time and see which one happens first. >> priscilla, we have reporting that brian thompson didn't have a security detail despite, his wife said, there were threats against him. what do we know about that? >> reporter: right. so in that video you see him walking alone. he doesn't appear to have security on the sidewalk just behind me. and that is pretty rare for the ceo of a major company when they are traveling, particularly when they're headed to a publicly advertised shareholder meeting. and as you noted, you add on top of that his tells nbc news

there were threats against him and she said there may have been some sort of a lack of coverage. so it's unclear whether he was offered coverage, declined that coverage. we don't exactly know, but it's one of the things we're trying to get to the bottom of. if he should have had security and why he didn't and if there was any shortcoming there. >> as people who are in charge of a big company, rob johnson had a pretty -- sorry, brian thompson, had a pretty low profile, but his company's revenue last year, $281 billion. he was also a top executive in the parent company and then again, these reports of threats. as someone who is experienced in consulting for corporate security, are you surprised that he didn't have security? what's sort of the level of decision making that that happens around? >> i am and i'm not. there's so many companies that have it and there's a lot of

them that don't. security never produces revenue so it's the first thing to be questioned or cut. some companies really realize their ceo, if somethings to their ceo, even something as dramatic as this or some time of investigation, they realize that the ceo that's been in there a while, that the market likes, gets killed or is you know, has an investigation that's bad, their stock's going to do down. so a lot of boards require it. especially with the expense of security, that the board has to approve it. especially now when you have a public event, he might not be known on the street but he's going to be at this event. i do assessments all the time where i evaluate if they have security, is it the right amount of security? in the right positions? or if they don't have security, what really makes sense because you don't want to have like eight guys on him when he's in a building that requires five or

six badges to get into. when he's alone f he had security, like one person with him to do things, maybe an event like this, you up it to three or four because it's publicly knowledge he's going to be there. and especially with all of the denials. i think there's going to be some liability on the board if they knew about threats and didn't offer it to him. if he turned it down, that's one thing. but a lot of these folks, they understand it. i do a lot of it and they just kind of say hey, it's something i need and they put up with it. >> priscilla, rob, and tom, thank you. in 90 seconds, pete hegseth still fighting to head to the pentagon, but how much is donald trump doing to help his cause? we're live on capitol hill, next. to hp elhis cause? we're live on capitol hill, next especially when they're eggland's best. taste so fresh and amazing. deliciously superior nutrition, too. for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. you've got a pepto predicament, ace.

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allegations against him involving drunken behavior and sexual misconduct. he describes them as a media smear campaign. not unlike what brett kavanaugh faced. >> do you think you're being kavanaughed right now? >> i had a member not 45 minutes ago look me in the eye in private and say that's what they're trying to do to you. get ready for more. they're going to make it up. all anonymous, all innuendo, all rumor. nothing sourced. no verification and they're just going to keep doing it because you're a threat to them. you're a threat to their system. you're a threat to all the things in washington, d.c., the swamp, the things that people have rejected, you're a threat to that. >> those stories were heavily sourced and verified but meantime, the house ethics committee that investigated matt

gaetz meets again to decide whether to release the report. later this evening, the full house could vote on a motion that could force them to make it public. i want to bring in julie on capitol hill. tim miller helped lead jeb bush's campaign. and in studio, vaughn hillyard. julie, where do things stand with the hegseth conversations? >> reporter: he's back on the hill today as you saw in those videos meeting with senate republicans. most friendly meetings today except for senator rounds who said after meeting with hegseth he still had some questions. he wasn't fully there yet but felt good about the meeting. i asked hegseth himself if he's going to stay in through the end and he said he will. he told garrett haake that as long as he has the support of president-elect trump behind him, he will continue to stay in and not withdraw his name despite the allegations

surrounding him. i talked to many senators yesterday who met with him. their point, this alcohol problem is definitely an issue sparking concerns among republicans in the senate but also his comments about women in the military. especially women in combat. that is something that of course perked up the ears of joni ernst who is the first woman combat veteran to be in the senate. she's also been outspoken about her on sexual assault survival. she's been an advocate for victims of military sexual assault and she holds the key, essentially, to hegseth's nomination because she sits on the powerful senate armed services committee that will be his first hurdle to cross. take a listen to what she said today after meeting with hegseth yesterday. >> i think for a number of our senators, they want to make sure that any allegations have been cleared and that's why we have to have a very thorough vetting

process. and that's why i was happy to sit down with pete and have that conversation with him yesterday. so, again, all i will say at this time is that we did have a very thorough discussion over a number of those issues. and the vetting will continue. i am certain through the next month or so until we approach that hearing date. >> reporter: now, another senator, kevin cramer, told me yesterday after an hour long meeting with hegseth that he thinks he feels good about hegseth. that he is not committed to vote for him finally on the senate floor if he gets there, but wants to make sure hegseth makes tell him it's not going to be a pleasant experience. >> tim, we heard hegseth express he was being kavanaughed. he blamed the media while also promising to stop drinking and kevin cramer talked about that after his meeting with hegseth

wednesday. >> the drinking thing is a pretty significant issue. whether you have a problem or don't or think you have a problem or don't think you have a problem. he said my commitment is the not touch alcohol while i'd have to position. i said it's really important we have a clear eyed secretary of defense if the alarm goes off or the phone rings at 3:00 in the morning. he said, he used the 3:00 in the morning, 3:00 in the afternoon, and any hour in between. >> tim, is it helping him to promise not to drink or somewhat extraordinary that he would even have to say that? >> probably both. i do think you can sense with republican senators that he has put forth an aggressive pitch the way that matt gaetz really didn't. hegseth also benefits from the fact there have been quite a few softball interviews he's done with these senators in the past. there's a positive relationship there in most of the instances,

maybe not all. the interesting thing for me is the silence from president-elect trump. we've heard pete hegseth twice say that trump has his back. we haven't heard trump say that. that's pretty noteworthy considering donald trump talks about everything and he weighs in on whether the oscars host was funny and the ratings of various things. anything that crosses his mind, he weighs in on, unfortunately for all of us. he hasn't talked about this at all. to me, that signals they're in a wait and see approach and while he might be telling pete he has his back, he doesn't really because we're not seeing you know, trump throw his weight around at all at least thus far. >> yeah, vaughn, that brings me to you. i haven't seen him tweet about it. i haven't heard him talk about it. where is donald trump on this because again, hegseth says as long as donald trump wants me in, i'm in. >> it's kind of abnormal that donald trump has been as quiet as he has been since his

election victory. he hasn't done any public events. he's going to be sitting down with kristen welker for his first interview after his election victory, but tim said it. he's not on social media or fox, real america's voices, going to bat and fighting for pete hegseth or any of these nominees here at this point. there is no reporting that he is making phone calls to republican senators threatening to take them on. you look at somebody like bill cassidy. there's a republican who said he's going to try to primary him in the 2026 louisiana senate race. so there is a little bit of posturing that donald trump could take here, but the question here is where does he want to use his political capital and right now, it's not clear that it's on pete hegseth. >> yeah, and i'm wondering have you gotten any indications from people close to him that he wanted him to be more forthcoming? that he didn't want to learn this stuff through the media? >> i think this is the part that is, maybe not surprising, but

donald trump's short sidedness. this is trump's judgment. he made these selections knowing there were allegations, rfk's case, gabbard's case, that there were allegations that would put them under the microscopes by these republican senators who have the prerogative to reject them during the confirmation process. for hegseth, donald trump is absolutely finding out just like we in the media and we are in realtime, these allegations. of course, it would frustrate him, but you're the one who decided to make your selection without going through fbi background checks just two weeks after your election victory. >> tim, even without trump, there's a lot of pressure on some of these republicans. joni ernst calling her conversations with hegseth frank and thorough, has been viewed 2.7 million times. the bulk of the responses were basically you better vote for him or you will be primaried in

2026. talk about the pressure on senators and do you think they're under it from their own constituents? >> they are. i think they would be under it more if donald trump was pushing them to be under it more. a lot of these folks are loyal to trump first and foremost. i saw a breitbart reporter float the idea that vaughn's friend kari lake might take a crack at it. that was a provocative suggestion, but i think that you can, the best way to sense they're feeling pressure is to look at tom tillis from north carolina. he was not on the campaign trail campaigning for trump. he's been loyal, but more in the kevin mccarthy style of republicanism. he said he's going to go for all of the nominees and he's up for re-election in 2026. there have been scuttlebutt about potential maga types that

could primary him. the tillis case shows at least some are feeling the pressure and if the nominees are going to be rejected, it will probably come from moderate senators collins and murkowski or someone who's decided they want to retire. >> on wednesday, nbc news confirmed that ron desantis is very much contention for defense secretary if trump decides to make a change, but new york magazine floated an interesting possibility that he's just trying to get desantis to kiss the ring kind of in the way that he did from mitt romney in 2016. he was floating his name to be possibly secretary of state and then he didn't get it. is that a possibility? >> i was back eight years ago at the new york restaurant in central park where mitt romney and donald trump were having dinner -- >> of course you were. >> my question was not to donald trump but to mitt romney specifically, but what about everything you said about donald trump? >> right. >> and for ron desantis, if he

were to be given this opportunity and it's not just being messed around with by donald trump, he would have to answer questions from the press on capitol hill like pete hegseth is doing but also by republican senators, if he were to take on the role, would he federalize the national guard or use the u.s. military here domestically and would he will being to go along with donald trump's demands? there's a list of condemnation from ron desantis and it's suggesting he never gave a hush money payment to a prostitute. those were desantis' words. there's a lot of questions that even if he were to get that job offer, it would make him uncomfortable answering the questions about what he would be willing to do as the pentagon chief in his capacity when donald trump is the one directing him on how the military should be used. >> julie, give us a rundown on

what's happening in the house involving the matt gaetz report and debate over releasing it. >> reporter: before thanksgiving, the house ethics panel came out of their meeting when gaetz was still in contention for attorney general and said they couldn't decide. couldn't come to a consensus between democrats and republicans on whether to complete and release this ethics report into gaetz's drug use, alleged sexual misconduct. so then you had two democrats file two separate motions on the house floor that would the house to put a vote on the floor whether they release this report. that is happening tonight because of course there is a deadline johnson has to follow. it only means a simple majority for johnson to kill that entire effort. that means he could put up a motion and say we're not going to release this report.

for that to happen, he's going to need all republicans. we'll see what happens but the fact gaetz is no longer a member of congress, isn't coming back next year, so he says, points to the fact that republicans don't have a lot of interest in letting this report come out. >> thank you all. up next, the two men who have promised to slash government spending take their war on washington straight to the hill. what elon musk and vivek ramaswamy are pitching to lawmakers today. and vivek ramaswamy are pitching to lawmakers today. the swiffer po. it has a built-in solution that breaks down dirt on contact. plus, it's 360-degree swivel head cleans up along baseboards and even behind the toilet. bye, bye bucket. with the swiffer powermop. do your dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer

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we are expecting to hear from elon musk and vivek ramaswamy any time now. just before they head into a meeting with house lawmakers about plans to dismantle the federal government. the two leaders of donald trump's newly invented department of government efficiency or doge, were swarmed on capitol hill this morning ahead of their first meeting with senate republicans. they're pushing for layoffs and slashing $2 trillion from the budget. speaker johnson gave a preview of the plans. >> we want to take a blow torch to the regulatory state and i think what they have in mind can help us. >> planned parenthood and pvs are in congressional control. >> i would like to. we've got to build consensus. there will be lots of ideas that come out.

we don't want to put too many of it out right now, but this is part of that aring the playbook. >> let's bring in cnbc's senior washington correspondent, eamon javers. you interviewed ramaswamy yesterday for cnbc at the cfo summit. i want to play a little bit of what he told you. >> a lot of the political philosophical musing about whether or not we should be cutting entitlements or whether or not the president can impound funds, it's a deflection from the fact there's a lot lower hanging fruit in terms of waste, fraud, abuse, error, program integrity failures that you've got to go after first before we ever need to get to those harder political questions. >> i'm so curious what was your sense because i think you talked to him for half an hour or something. big picture of what the real goals of doge are. >> you know, it's a total transformation and reinvention of the federal government in a

much smaller size, delivering much fewer services to much fewer people. that's what he has in mind. he's talking about a total transformation of the way washington, d.c. does business and he wants to do it with a lot less employees in the federal government. the question is whether he can achieve any of that. these goals are insanely ambitious by inside the beltway standards and their going to run into opposition from members of congress on capitol hill. this panel he's on is sort of an invented outside of government panel. all they can do is make recommendations and the power of the person of the constitution with congress and their republican members of the appropriations committees who are people who are entitled by the constitution to actually set federal spending priorities who will not like to have musk and ramaswamy telling them what to do. they're going to run into some institutional problems right off the bat and i think that's what today is designed to head off

what they can. >> it is really interesting, david. rose spoke for a lot of folks and said the doge folks have zero authority. it's a gang of two. it's congress that makes these determinations but we also know if they have the ear of donald trump, their influence could be significant. so my question is having two billionaires with influence over policy proposals, that it could impact their own bottom lines. their companies' bottom lines, brings conflict of interest questions. i know you spent a lot of time looking into the way the incoming trump team is treating requirements, but if musk and ramaswamy aren't even government employees, are there any ethical guardrails? >> it doesn't seem like there are. in fact, one of the few sort of details we've gotten about what these folks want to do is from musk and when he talks about the kind of regulations he wants to cut, he talks about regulations that affect his own business.

that slow down his launches from south texas, that stop a company from building a tunnel that it wants to build. that stop what tesla's trying to do with self-driving cars. what's the government doing wrong? it's slowing him down. in fact, they seem like the center of what he's trying to do. >> so on "morning joe" this morning, our friend steve rattner added up some of their cuts including elimination of va healthcare, the nih, fbi, sec, but even cuts that drastic in many peoples' minds would only amount to $221 billion. do they really think that $2 trillion worth of cuts is realistic? >> he didn't commit to a lot when i talked to him yesterday. he didn't commit to the $2 trillion figure. i asked him for one example of one large thing north of $10 billion he'd like to cut.

he wouldn't commit to any example there. i asked him what guidance has donald trump given him about what trump wants to cut from the federal budget. he wouldn't put a specific on that either. you know, i asked him about these conflicts of interest with elon musk in terms of elon musk either getting federal contracts and deciding which contracts are then wasteful or not. maybe his competitors are wasteful and his are not. he didn't really want to address that directly and didn't want to address the question of whether musk has a conflict of interest in terms of china. elon does an enormous amount of business in china. he's very critical of freedom of speech issues here in the united states, but not so much in china. the question is if he's going to be serving in an administration that's as anti china as the trump administration says it wants to be, are there conflicts of interest there? ramaswamy talked around that as well. they're not at a point where they're willing to put any detail on this at all and maybe that's behind closed doors what

they're going to start to do on capitol hill today. it's a very, very tall order. >> yeah, and we're waiting to hear from them. obviously, the podium is there. we're waiting for them to show up. they've also been talking about a topic that could have broad, popular support. getting rid of daylight savings time. musk wrote looks like the people want to abolish the annoying time changes. ramaswamy responded it's inefficient and easy to change. i know if that's part of a purview, never the less, is it your sense that while the budget may be the central focus of doge, the sky's the limit on potential inflounce? >> we're in a great period for them because they don't have any power yet. trump's not in office. this is the time to sort of spit ball and the sky's the limit. everything seems so easy. but i do think it's a little worrisome for me for them now that instead of focusing on okay, we're going to cut waste

out of medicare through this step and this step and this step, we're going to go to the pentagon and make sure its budget is audited this way. they're going off on other tangents that while may be popular, don't really have anything to do with government efficiency. what i want to see if they're serious enough to dive into these bureaucracies and find the waste, fraud, and abuse or if they just want to tweet about it. >> thank you both for that. and again, we're going to keep our eye on that podium because we're expecting the two billionaires to show up any minute but in the meantime, yes, more snow. millions are bracing for a fast-moving clipper storm set to slam the great lakes. but first, the rockefeller center christmas tree is shining today after last night's 92nd annual tree lighting ceremony. the giant 74-foot, 11 ton norway

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another burst of winter weather is making travel treacherous today. snow squalls have been creating sudden whiteout conditions in areas already blanketed in

white. >> can this region handle that additional snowfall? >> we don't have a choice, right? you know, we have to handle that. >> in erie, pennsylvania, the national guard has been called in to help people dig their houses out of a whopping 5 feet of snow that fell this week. bill karins is here with me. make it stop. how bad is it going to get? i feel terrible for those folks. >> erie is the bull's eye. they're going to get another 1 to 2 feet of snow on top of the feet they have. and it's going to be blowing over with drifts. going to be a rough go for the next 48 hours. sunday, it stops then warms up. it's really isolated from cleveland up to erie. we've had other areas and squalls. the storm responsible for this is now rocketing out and behind it, the gusty winds are kicking in. we have some snow squalls out there. we've had a few in new york, in

new york state and areas on the mass pike. overall, there's not a lot of bad squally weather out there. the lake effect snow will kick in later tonight. erie, 1 to 2 feet. north of syracuse, possibility of 2 feet of additional snow there. the airports with gusty winds, we have some problems. boston logan, 93 minute delays. newark, 90 minute delays, too. the winds have been howling. we've been now gusting over 40 for the last couple of hours in washington, d.c. 43 in philadelphia. so it is pretty windy out there. that's why we're getting these delays at the airports and the wind advisory wills stay with us until sunset. after the sun sets, that's when everything should be dropped. then the cold begins the plow in. these are the current feels like temperatures now. we're at negative 6 in fargo. chicago at 10. indianapolis at 6. now that cold is heading into the east coast. we'll see the teens in the northeast tonight and tomorrow

morning, we get cold down to the south. chris, it looks like saturday is kind of the end of this cold. early in the morning, it will feel like 16 in boston. negative 2 in maine. next week looks warmer. new york city could jump maybe into the low 60s next week which is going to feel like a heat wave compared to lately. >> i will welcome in. just me. thank you so much, bill. up next, a california town is rattled after school shooting that left two children who are just 5 and 6 years old in critical condition. what police are looking at as a possible motive. what police are looking at as a possible motive. m. i don't have any anxiety about money anymore. i don't have to worry about a mortgage payment every month. it allowed me to live in my home and not have to make payments. if you're 62 or older and own your home, you could access a portion of your equity to improve your lifestyle. a reverse mortgage loan can eliminate your monthly mortgage payments

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that, they're not making that firm connection at this point. what we know is that those shots were reported when that gunman walked into the school with what authorities say was a handgun and began opening fire, wounding a 5-year-old and 6-year-old boy who were students in this very tight knit school that only had about 35 kids ranging from kindergarten to eight grade. we're hearing from some of those who were there during this attack and i want to share what they have to say. take a listen. >> we were running to the gym. i looked back and i saw a shadow with a gun so i told most people to run even faster. my face had a cold expression but inside, i was breaking down. >> reporter: incredibly frightening scene when you hear students describe it, chris. we know that authorities were on the scene in about two minutes time. they did encounter the gunman who was already deceased from a self-inflicted gun shot wound.

the school placed on lockdown as a precaution for the next several hours while they secured the scene. as for the two boys who were wounded, the 5 and 6-year-old, we know one was air lifted from the area. both are listed in critical but stable condition as investigators work into this gunman's past to try to figure out a potential motive that led to this tragic shooting. >> morgan chesky, thank you. now to spain where an invasive species of supersized murder hornets has been found for the first time ever. spanish researchers say the hornets enter a slaughter phase where they can destroy entire beehives in a matter of hours and now they're trying to locate the nest so they can destroy it. it's no easy task though. because they build their nests nearly 100 feet under ground. still ahead, we've gotten new details on the suspect in the murder of the united healthcare ceo. what police have just revealed

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