right now on ana cabrera reports, a manhunt where every second matters. 48 hours now since a health care ceo was gunned down in manhattan. the new leads investigators are chasing as they search for the gunman. plus, preemptive pardons? president biden reportedly considering giving legal cover to people who have tangled with trump. who that includes. and later brutal winter weather, heavy snow and

potentially frigid temps, 20 degrees below average. ♪♪ hello and thanks for joining us on this friday. it's 10:00 eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we're staying on top of the breaking news here in manhattan. it is day three of the manhunt for a killer who shot the ceo of unitedhealthcare on a new york sidewalk. the nypd is pouring over a mountain of clues. they believe the suspect now arrived in new york ten days before the shooting on a greyhound bus and they are looking into whether he paid in cash and used a fake id at a hostel on the upper west side. there is this potential breakthrough, a photo from the hostel, the person of interest lowering his mask, smiling and having a flirtatious interaction with the woman at the front desk that have hostel. but 48 hours later still no

arrests and not even a name for the suspect. let's bring in nbc's sam brock who has been covering every step of this investigation. also with us, retired nypd captain john monahan and msnbc senior law enforcement analyst, cedric alexander, former public safety director for dekalb county, georgia. sam, bring us the very latest in this investigation. >> reporter: sure, ana, good morning. i would say there have been two significant developments in the last 12 or so hours, the first ever which you just mentioned, multiple law enforcement officials telling nbc news that they believe the suspect took a greyhound bus from atlanta and arrived into new york city on november 24th, that is roughly ten days prior to this shooting. what does that mean? it means investigators now can check the ticket list and see if they can identify the gunman based on the purchase. so that's one. another is was he staging and plotting potentially for ten days in new york? we know an eyewitness at that hostel you mentioned said that he was sharing a room with complete strangers and obviously there are the visual images as

well and, this is the second big development. we found out according to an individual or senior law enforcement individual briefed on the investigation, he only pulled down that mask because of a flirtatious exchange with someone, with a woman that works at the hostel. it is incredible to think that you have multiple images now that can potentially support facial recognition based on that exchange and really right now it is a mishmash of camera angles up and down the city. i'm on 54th street right now and that hostel was on 103rd so you are talking about roughly a 50-block swath of new york city. one is from midtown, it comes from at about 6:15 in the morning, a store window where you can see someone who fits the description of the suspect with that distinctive gray backpack leaving the subway at 6:15 in the morning and later in the morning at about 6:59, roughly 15 minutes after this murder took place, a man on a bike that also fits the description with

no backpack at that point, leaving the central park area and riding along on the bike. so what investigators are trying to do right now, that's the image, a piece together the path over the course of this sort of circuitous 50 or so blocks and figure out are there other images that might be illustrative in terms of informing them where he might be at this hour. we don't have an identity or up known location from 7:00 on wednesday morning. >> let's look at that full-faced pictures. authorities saying he lowered his mask to have a flirtatious interaction with this woman at the front desk of an upper west side hostel. just how big of a break could that picture, these images, seeing his full face be? >> it's huge. you know what is surprising to me, ana, that we haven't gotten a call yet from someone who recognizes this man. this was the biggest break in the case was getting his face and now that we have it and it's been out there almost 24 hours now that someone in his life, a

friend, a neighbor, someone that knows this man, has not called us. that's a shock. >> it does sound like he traveled in, so maybe he's not from around here. >> right. i'm not thinking that he would be recognized by someone he passed in new york for those ten days, i'm talking about people in his life. people he has interacted with in the last few yearmeone who is n cohortand recognizes him. there's at least ten people in the world right now that are looking at the image you're broadcasting that recognize that man. i'm surprised we haven't gotten a call yet. >> sorry, i didn't mean to step on you, but i'm wondering what type of questions would police be asking the woman who had that interaction with him and the people who even stayed in the same room as this man at that hostel? >> right. so the hostel, you know the nature of a hostel, they just bunk you up with whoever signs

in next, it's not like necessarily he knew them but they did have time to go face-to-face with this man. the woman from what i understand that may have been flirtatious, but it may also have been he handed her a fake id, fine, if it was a photo id, her job is to say i can't see you with the mask. she may have, you know, flirtatiously said you need to pull that mask down for me. i don't know if it was flirtatious or if she was being a professional, we would want to speak to her at greater detail about that. you know, he pulled the mask down, bass he flirting or did he not want to arouse suspicion and pulled it down to comply with her. we need to find that out from her. the bicycle thing, when you're come from 59th avenue the best is central park. there's 96 street, there's 100 street you can get out. i know he is not a native new yorker but he did spend ten days obviously casing the area. he would have known that.

i'm not sure the bike coming across 85th street we got the video of right there, i don't think that's him. i mean, it might be, but that doesn't look like a citi bike to me. >> but i believe we have reporting, john, that it wasn't a citi bike that he used. so that's the other, i think, question. >> oh, okay. >> if it's not a citi bike, do they know what kind of bike it is and as you point out citi bike is something that's common, that people can rent just about anywhere here in new york city and get on and go. if it wasn't one of those where did he pick up this bike? did he bring it with him? we didn't hear anything about that related to his trip in on the greyhound bus so that's another big question mark. let me bring cedric into the conversation, too. cedric, we are on day three, there's still so much we don't know even though we keep being given new pieces of new details, clues that these investigators have uncovered. are you surprised we still don't have a name of the man they're looking for? >> well, i think subsequently that's going to come over time, but i think if we step back 72

hours or so since the beginning of this shooting, ana, i think we have to take into consideration this, a lot has been done in this investigation and has been reported to the media to get out to the community, but we also have to expect, too, that nypd may know much more than what they're sharing. and it wouldn't be appropriate for them to share it because this is an ongoing investigation and information they could be receiving even around his identity could still be sensitive at this point. >> what other types of information might they have that you would suggest they wouldn't share? >> i mean, it could be a number of things. we don't know whether they have a number of individuals that they suspect that they're currently talking to. we don't know if they've identified at this point and are still trying to gather more information. i think that's going to come over time. but the most important piece is here we think about from the beginning this have shooting several days ago up to now, they're putting this together like a puzzle.

they're giving us these very distinct timelines and they're filling in these blocks and over a period of time they're going to find this subject. it's just a matter of time. and even if they have not identified him, he will be identified at some point. when we're able to see his face and i know there was the question why hasn't someone called in yet. we don't know who this individual may be. maybe he didn't have a lot of relationships with people. maybe he's kind of a loner. or maybe he's an individual who could have family and friends who are being empathetic of his position right now and very reluctant to say anything or get involved. so i think there are a lot of variables here that are still yet to be answered, but this is still early in this investigation, it's tragic and horrible as this event was, considering the fact a lot of information has been gathered and nypd is doing a tremendous job in sharing this, what they

feel is appropriate to the community, but if anybody has seen this person, it is hugely important that they set whatever feelings they have aside because this was a horrible, horrible death on a major city street here in new york city and this should not happen anywhere. so if anybody knows anything, please say something. >> i do want to highlight part of the timeline as we're starting to get the fuller picture. law enforcement believes the suspect arrived in new york ten days ago, we mentioned that earlier, but here is the most interesting aspect, i think. united health group didn't announce that this investor conference was happening until two days after that. john, what does that suggest to you? >> that's a surprise because to book a conference at the hilton in new york would require more time you would think. maybe that explains why mr. thompson was not staying at the hilton. i wondered about that, why is he staying across the street. so you're saying they didn't book the conference until two days after the shooter arrived

in town. that's interesting -- >> they didn't announce the conference. i don't know if they booked it. so there may be -- internally inside the company they knew about this happening, but in terms of public-facing announcement, the announcement came two days after this individual had arrived in new york city. >> he had intelligence information, obviously. he had intelligence information all the way through, as you're saying now, he knew about the conference before it was made public and the morning that he -- he sat in starbucks, he gets a call, it's time to go, he is on his way. someone is giving him direction on where this man was going to be, what exit he was taking from the hotel, that is a big hotel, big city, he happened to be standing right on the exact corner he needed to be on to find him walking into -- and to know the conference wasn't scheduled until 9:00 a.m. he's leaving the hotel at 6:45. this kid had a lot of information and as you pointed out he had information on the scheduling of the conference before the rest of us did.

is he in touch with people from unitedhealthcare? is he in touch with people from his family? there's two different main avenues here, there is his personal life, we have to put detectives on that out in minnesota, we've probably got a team of detectives in georgia right now looking at that bus -- because, you know, there's a lot of things here that point us towards a disgruntled person who had their claim denied and that could well be the case. there's also the doj investigation, was he about to give evidence and then there is a lot of people that would take a fall because of that. they're going to put a set of detectives on that. you know, the bullets with the message -- >> right. >> -- statement from the wife, the very first call she gets to be notified your husband has just been murdered and her very first statement was, well, there's been complaints about denial of coverage. that matches with what's written on the bullets. >> deny, defend, depose, those were the dee words written on the bullet casings. >> they don't watch exactly with that book.

the word depose is not in the title of the book. i would have a team of detectives look at people who sat for deposition recently related to this man. there is a lot to look at. but those bullets and the wife's answer, when she was notified of his death, they match and they lead us to this was a person who had a claim denied. is that the direction we should be going in? i don't know. it's the direction the shooter is putting us in, though. >> we do have this ten-daytime line, cedric, that he was in new york and we have already shown how many cameras are out there, so potentially dozens ands dozens of images of him through his time here. how are police going and kind of backtracking from the shooting to when he arrived? >> very intimately from the time that they are now able to determine that he was able to get on that bus and come into the city, however he may have traveled into the city. i think there are a lot of -- at this point a lot we can speculate in terms of what the motive may be, ana.

it could be something that relates to maybe someone in his family or someone close to him may have failed to receive insurance benefits or he could have been sympathetic towards someone else, or he could himself -- we don't know -- have been at some point even a member or employee of unitedhealthcare who may have been someone who is angry with the organization itself. it's just a lot of different variables in this. >> would you rule out this guy being a hit man? >> i wouldn't at this point rule out anything at this point because it's still early in this investigation. and some will say, well, this was a professional hit, others will say he looked like an amateur, but then there are some things that we're beginning to look at where he did disguise himself very early on, not just in terms of a mask, but making sure he covered some of his tracks. but like any criminal, you're going to leave clues behind

unknowingly and i think at some point in this very bizarre case is something we often see in the movies, but in this very bizarre case he's going to be apprehended and i have all the confidence in the world, and like your other guest was saying, there are a number of teams that are out there working across the country with other agencies, gathering information, even witnessing -- even talking to witnesses that may have been on that same bus with him, tracking them down. so there is a lot of tedious work that's being done and then there's work that's being done that we are not aware of, where we have to allow them the opportunity. >> right. >> "them" being the police department the opportunity to pull all of this information together. >> guys, i also want to dig into the alarming online reaction to this killing. thousands of social media posts expressing support or sympathizing with it. one disturbing example here is somebody who posted this, "this fatal shooting has been reviewed by a peer and is considered a

non-covered experimental procedure." some social media posts reaching millions of accounts, getting thousands -- tens of thousands, in fact, of shares and likes. cedric, your reaction to that and what does law enforcement do with that? >> i mean, it's very hard at this point for law enforcement to do anything to it. you don't want to ignore. but here is what the sad part of that is, there's a lot of vitriol messaging out there in social media supporting this horrible act and as shameful and it's unfortunate, but it also speaks to the sentiment of how people feel about insurance companies in this country, either from their personal experience or the experience of someone else, because that's very personal when it comes to your health or it comes to the health of someone else who has been denied a payment to their doctors, to the hospitals. so that can be a very sensitive

issue. and that also may be driving this slow, slow response and people identifying who he is because we don't know how much empathy there is out there around this. >> cedric alexander and john monahan, thank you so much. really interesting conversation. and we will stay on top of any new developments that come in throughout the hour. also still to come, an arctic air mass sending temperatures plummeting from the midwest all the way to kentucky. the frigid winter weather now coming for the northeast. plus pardon power. nbc reporting who president biden is considering for preemptive pardons before trump takes office. and later pete's prospects, trump's secretary of defense pick has a defiant new message. has his charm offensive on the hill secured any new senate support? we're back in 90 seconds. >> i don't answer to anyone in this group. none of you. not to that camera at at you

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discussed and who may get such pardons. >> reporter: good morning. as you said, two sources do confirm that the president is discussing this possibility of preemptive pardons with senior aides. we should note that no decisions have been made, but there are several names that have come up, although there is not an official list. still, some of the names that have been talked about, senator elect adam schiff, former congresswoman liz cheney, also dr. anthony fauci. now, these preemptive pardons are being discussed in the context of the increased rhetoric about retribution that we've been hearing in recent months and weeks. sources cite that there has been outreach and public calls of support in this from democrats and also never trump republicans, and also separately we expect in the next couple of weeks to hear from president biden about the possibility of clemency regarding the criminal justice system. advocates such as democratic

leader hakeem jeffries and also civil rights attorney ben crump have been urging the president to act in a variety of cases worthy of clemency. we expect to hear more from the white house in the upcoming weeks. so, again, ana, this is something that is being discussed right now between the president and senior aides, but so far no final decisions. >> gabe gutierrez, keep us posted. thanks. and this just in this morning, the president-elect now publicly weighing in on the whirlwind week of controversy surrounding his pentagon pick, pete hegseth. in the face of mounting allegations of various types of misconduct over the years, all of which hegseth denies trump said in a social media post hegseth is, quote, doing very well, and that his support is strong and deep. now, trump's embattled defense secretary pick spent four straight days on the hill trying to lock down support and he pitched himself as a changed man who is only accountable to one person. >> i'm a different man than i was years ago and that's a

redemption story that i think a lot of americans appreciate. this will not be a process tried in the media. i don't answer to anyone this this group. none of you. not to that camera at all. i answer to president trump. >> and in a sign hegseth appears to have no intention of withdrawing his lawyer tells nbc news the fbi background check forms will be completed this weekend. nbc news correspondent ryan nobles is on capitol hill with the latest. also with us, julia manchester. ryan, the week began with at least six senators privately saying they weren't comfortable supporting hegseth. has anything shifted after all of his meetings with lawmakers? >> reporter: the answer to that question is no, ana, but that of course was before we saw this public push by the president-elect to reaffirm his support for his pick to run the department of defense. it was notable that up until this point that donald trump had not made any sort of public

declaration of support for his embattled pick. hegseth himself had told us repeatedly that he was in contact with trump, that trump had told him to continue the fight, but trump himself had made no visible effort to reach out to senators, to try to lobby on behalf of his pick or make any public pronouncement in support of him. that all changed this morning with that social media post that you showed and then it was backed up by the vice president-elect j.d. vance as well who encouraged hegseth to stay in the fight. whether or not that's going to compel these senators, and we know there's probably in the universe of six, perhaps more senators that are currently no votes when it comes to hegseth to switch their votes, that remains to be seen, but it is notable that donald trump is giving hegseth this public support and it shows that he's at least going to be sticking around in this confirmation process for the foreseeable future. >> julia, during the matt gaetz drama j.d. vance was on the hill with him and the president-elect

personally called senators, trying to rally support for gaetz. is that kind of lobbying happening behind the scenes for hegseth? and if not, why not? >> yeah, we're hearing that, you know, there is lobbying and i think the president-elect himself going out on truth social and saying that is lobbying enough, and sending a message to a number of these republican senators. at the same time, though, i think we're getting a bit of mixed messages and so is pete hegseth from president-elect trump. you have this very public show of support, but we know that earlier this week president-elect trump called out -- called up florida governor ron desantis and asked him about the possibility of him serving as his defense secretary and desantis is said to be seriously considering that possibility, should it come down to that. but at the end of the day, look, we have already seen one failed nomination before the nomination process has even begun from one of trump's cabinet picks. so it's going to be very difficult, i think, for the trump transition team to want to drop pete hegseth at that point

because that will be two and that will mean that essentially more of that scrutiny, that scrutiny that went from matt gaetz and, you know, was even harsher -- became harsher for pete hegseth that could move to someone like tulsi gabbert or rfk jr. they want to keep their ducks in a row as much as possible but if we still continue to see this very negative news cycle for pete hegseth, these very negative stories and leaks coming out, that's going to make it very difficult for a transition team that's looking to hit the ground running. >> i'm so glad you mentioned tulsi gabbert who is trump's pick for director of national intelligence because nbc news has obtained a letter from nearly 100 former national security officials who are alarmed by the prospect of gabbert leading the intel community and they write in part, quote, several of ms. gabbert's past actions call into question her ability to deliver unbiased intelligence briefings to the president, congress and to the entire national security apparatus. following her trip to syria, for

example, ms. gabbert aligned herself with russian and syrian officials. julia, they also question her level of experience. are republican lawmakers worried about her? >> i think there is some concern. i don't think it's as widespread maybe as, you know, a matt gaetz or a pete hegseth, but there are a lot of questions and i think a lot of republican lawmakers are looking forward to sitting down with tulsi gabbert. and on that question of syria, you know, it's interesting because we know that she met with bashar al assad years ago but we already see unrest in syria, really erupting over the past week, so that's one more question that tulsi gabbert is going to have to answer, you know, should she face that scrutiny in the nomination process. going back to my previous point, look, we're seeing her face that scrutiny, but should pete hegseth drop out, she's going to have to be prepared to face even more of that because i would say she's probably next up to be in the hot seat here. >> julia manchester and ryan nobles, a conversation to be

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breaking news also this morning in the economy here in the u.s. just got november's jobs report and the u.s. added 227,000 jobs in november, more than experts expected. the unemployment rate rose very slightly to 4.2%. this comes ahead of the federal reserve's meeting this month where more interest rate cuts are on the table. let's bring in nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans with more on this and what this all means. break down the numbers for us. >> those workers idled by bad storms and strikes, they went back to work. so hiring came back, it was the bounce-back we were expecting and a little stronger than expected 227,000 jobs and the unemployment rate did tick up had. 4.2% but that's pretty historically low. 4.2% there. where there was hiring, it was pretty broad-based except for retail trade. in terms of the hiring for the holiday season, it's been a little bit lighter than we're used to so that's where we saw job losses in retail trade, but

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it's the return of an iconic landmark five years in the making. this weekend paris' notre dame cathedral is reopening its doors

for the first time since the devastating fire in april of 2019. remember that? and now thanks to thousands of artisans and donations from all around the world, this is what it looks like. nbc's gray jay -- jay gray, that is, has a look at its historic journey to reopening. >> reporter: as the world watches in stunned disbelief, flames swallowed the iconic cathedral. the central spire crumbling into ash much of the 860-year-old structure gutted. >> it felt painful to watch, but we knew they would rebuild it. to see it now is amazing. >> reporter: more than five and a half years later thousands are gathering again at notre dame, celebrating what many call the rebirth of this historic landmark. brought back to lively nearly 2,000 construction workers, craftsmen and artists from across the globe. >> i am so excited to see it open. such a big part of our world, notre dame. >> reporter: the official

reopening of the cathedral marked by ceremonies and religious services, including sunday when dignitaries, heads of state and celebrities will join the faithful and more than 150 bishops from around the world during an evening mass led by paris archbishop laurent ulrich. >> it brings hope. paris deserves that. >> reporter: before the fire it was the most visited site in europe with 12 to 13 million tourists each year. as notre dame reopens now, officials are extending visiting hours until 10:00 each night, expecting 15 million or more in just the next few months, with as many as 40,000 a day touring the refurbished cathedral. >> our thanks to jay gray for that report. joining us now is jackson dubois, the executive drejter of the timber sframer's guild and he worked on restoring the cathedral's iconic spire and will be going to that reopening ceremony this weekend. jackson, this was a massive undertaking on a structure

that's been around since the 13th century. what was it like to work on this? >> hi, ana. thanks for having me here. it was an amazing experience for sure. the work that i took part in was on the gothic parts of the spire and being able to work side-by-side with french carpenters, crafts people, timber framers, i represent the timber framer's guild here in this work and all the other organizations helping the united states represent this. it was a really fantastic experience. a lot of work. a lot of work. >> tell us about how you went about rebuilding the spire and how did you try to replicate the original? >> yeah. we were working from drawings that had already been done and reproduced from the drawings of le duc. the spire was finished in the mid 1800s. notre dame went for a long time without a spire, actually.

so we had the drawings from le duc and the fantastic french engineers and architects reproduced those drawings to modern specifications and designed all of the wooden joynery in there and we used a mix of hand tools and power tools. the spire was actually completed just a decade before the eiffel tower was raised. >> wow. >> it's a somewhat modern piece, but still a beautiful gothic execution. >> so, so fascinating. i imagine it was intricate kind of work. is there anything that's different until in the design n? >> well, there's some fire suppression systems inside, that's for sure. as well as probably some kind of structural -- structural frames because something that is that high is taking a lot of wind and a lot of, you know, just loads, gravity loads and moving all of that kind of -- those forces down to the stone. so to try to, you know, make the whole thing as stable as

possible i'm sure that there was some modern engineering approaches, but the woodworking was the part that i was a part of. >> we have about 30 seconds. i understand you lived in france for three months to do that work on the reconstruction of this project. what was the most difficult or unexpected part of the restoration for you? >> i would say that the most difficult part and the most difficult part was the language barrier that existed. my french is quite poor, my family has been in the united states for many generations, but being able to really come together with french crafts people and with the tools and the knowledge that we share, there's kind of a language of timber framing and a language of carpentry that we shared, but it was a constant navigation and a real challenge. a constant navig real challenge and real challenge. and working on my french now. >> well, thank you for sharing your gift of the craft and enjoy the ceremony as it reopens to the public this weekend.