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follow major breaking news on several fronts. the fall of syria. the country is in control of rebels that chased out the brutal dictator that led the country for decades. where he is now and what it means for the middle east and the world. we are following the backlash president-elect trump exclusive interview on "meet the press" where he made it clear what to expect in a new administration including comments about the jailing of some his political opponents. all that plus new developments in the murder of the united health care ceo in new york city as the police release brand-new images of the gunman. we have brand-new details on where the investigators are now searching. we will have more on that ahead. we begin with the latest on that breaking news in syria where people are celebrating in the streets following the ousting of the president. rebel forces seized control of the capitol after 13 years of

brutal civil war and more than 50 years of the dynasty rule. russian state media is reporting he has been granted asylum in russia. but we know about camps and operatives attacked in syria that came after biden addressed the fall of the regime this afternoon. for more on the president's remarks as well as the new offensive against isis forces inside of syria. we have more. >> reporter: we heard president biden during the speech reacting to the news in syria say that he is clear-eyed about the clear connections between

these rebel force that have taken over and terrorist organizations saying that he is clear-eyed about the window of opportunity that this shift in power could provide isis in the region and shortly after the speech we learned from the military it conducted over 75 strikes on isis targets in syria with the goal of preventing them from having this window of opportunity to resurge in power. this really is putting a large focus on the roughly 900 u.s. forces that are currently stationed in different parts of syria. it is, right now it is not clear that they are under any sort of increased threat by these syrian rebel groups, the president in that speech committed to keeping those forces there. but also committed to providing continued support and protection of those forces, jonathan? what did we hear from the

president? he struck a very cautiously optimistic tone. i think that was the main takeaway. he basically said that the syrians would be the ones to forge their own future here. he said that the u.s. would be the one lending a helping hand in helping them be able to do that. listen to some of his comments here. >> at long last the saad assad regime has fallen. they have killed many. it is a moment of historic opportunity for the long- suffering people of syria and a moment of risk of uncertainty. as we all turn to the question of what comes next, the united states will work with our partners and stakeholders in syria to help them seize an opportunity to manage the risk. >> reporter: you heard in of those commitments from the president there.

other commitments that he made would be to support syria's neighbors in this region. he committed to sending u.s. officials to the region to work with the syrians as well as the united nations in creating what he called a sovereign syria with a new constitution that he says that syrians would write themselves. a long to do list for a president with 40 days left in office. reaffirming his commitment to stay and help in syria. that stands in stark opposition to what we are hearing from president-elect trump who is essentially washing his hands of this crisis, really, leaning on russia and china and saying they should be the ones taking this, taking action in the next steps of this crisis. it will be interesting to see how those two different visions end up acting out especially with the transition that we know is underway before

inauguration on january 20th. >> yep. 43 days to be exact >> thank you very much. and joining us live now from london is nbc's meagan fritzgerald. what have you been hearing out of syria? >> reporter: during the course of the day we have seen celebrations from people rejoicing in the treats. it really gripped the nation for more than 50 years. we are seeing people released from assad's prison. amnesty international called the prisons human slaughter houses where mass hangings and exterminations took place. people were tortured. many syrians believe they are now free. i want you to listen to a video that a syrian man sent us. >> now we can sleep and think

of tomorrow. we can sleep that justice is achieved. now i can understand my children will not be raised under oppression. now i can say that we are free, syria we are free people. >> reporter: an emotional day for so many and a moment giving a lot of people hope. the big question, of course, what is next. how will the country be governed moving forward. the syrian people don't need to fear them, they will respect minority groups. there has been a lot of celebration it is a moment of great uncertainty for the syrian people. how we got here is something that shocked a lot of people. we are talking about a lightning-fast offensive that kicked off two weeks ago when

the rebels captured them. they took over the largest province in syria. seizing control of the boarder and cutting off the roads with significantly weaked the assad regime. hours later they said they were in control of damascus and the country. >> thank you very much. we have the perfect person to ask about how we got here and he is former cia director. and intelligence analyst and author of the book "undaunted: my fight against america's enemies at home and abroad." >> thank you very much for being here. nbc news confirmed that u.s. forces just carried out

precision air strikes on islamic state camps, leaders, operatives in central syria. what do you make of that action? >> i think they are worried that isis could take advantage of the turbulence inside of syria and see if they can seize additional territory. clearly the rebels had great momentum over the last two weeks. there is basically a coalition of rebel forces that are united in their animosity. and isis has contacts with a number of individuals within this coalition. as we know, the collision has roots in al qaida. there are a lot of extremists there. i think that centcom has been watching. there are it syrian territory that are ungoverned. and the concern is now given the

uncertainty that isis might try to capitalize on it >> catastrophic success, this phrase, that was something inside of the american administration, i can not remember if it was barack obama or biden. but, getting rid of the assad regime would be the success part, the catastrophic part would be what comes next. director brennon what does it mean for geo politics in the middle east right now? >> reporter: it means a brutal regime al assad and his father ruled the the oppression of people. now, the big question is, what

happens now. it is one thing bring together the forces in shared animosity against assad but if there will be a co thraigz can, in fact, take over, they will have to coalition, in fact, take over, they will have to wait and see. we see the russians they will be pulling most of their people out of syria. syria has been basically russia and soviet union before it. it is really a lone root. it has a russian airfield there. so, russia relied heavily on their relationship with syria over the years. you don't have that any more. clearly iran and eases hezbollah. and the islamic force opposed

to hezbollah. we are at the very, very early stage of this and we will see how it evolves over time. >> so, right now, let's talk about how the rebels make this stunning breakthrough materialize. how were they able to capture damascus? >> they were undermining their effectiveness. there were battles between different groups. the head of the group is a clever and skillful leader who has been able to put aside a lot of these tensions the groups. the forces have really changed over the years. the syrian army was large group that defected from the syrian

military that were opposed to -- assad's rule. we have seen over time, the groups, these forces are really putting pressure on the syrian military. i think just the will to fight was starting to evaporate among the syrians, i think the russians saw the writing on the wall which is why they did not come to his rescue. in the past they taken strikes, aircraft, but i do think that the main backers ever his saw it was a rapidly collapsing military within syria. so, again, the challenge is ahead. much of the country has been destroyed in the past 14 years. the economy is in shambles, the infrastructure is in shambles, they are getting a broken

country. it is really going to be challenging for them to be able to address obviously the penalty up needs of the syrian people. >> one more question for you, director. not only is it the end of his regime it is the end of the family's 53 year reign in syria. talk about the sheer impact they had on that country over five decades. >> reporter: they come from a minority sect. they have been able to control the government and the military. even though there were a lot of christians part of the syrian government. his father and then him. they have, again, ruled oughtlessly. upon then with their backers. russia and iraq and hezbollah. so that is why we see there is jubilation in the streets. he, again, has tortured individuals, prisons are opened

up now. in is great hope that american journalist who has been missing now for a dozen years may, in fact, come home. so, again, they can not over state just how brutal and ruthless and plied the it has come. we have a long way to go before we we see it is a positive development for the syrian people and for the region as a whole. >> thank you very much for coming to the program and your expertise. still to come, president-elect trump's wide-ranging interview with meet the press moderator christian wel cricklcor. now, more on the killing of

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. welcome back. more breaking news as the manhunt intensifies for the man that shot ask killed united health care ceo thompson outside of a new york hotel. moments gage nbc news learned that the scuba team is in central park waters searching for evidence, including the gun

used by the suspect. overnight nypd released these new photos of the suspect that appear to be taken from inside of a taxicab. unclear when. nbc from new york city, priscilla what more have we learned? >> the waters are murky. they are using a grid forthe gun. we have seen nypd in central park the last couple of days since the backpack was found looking for additional evidence. the big piece of evidence being the gun that was used in the shooting. that is something they still have not recovered. they did find a jacket and also some monopoly money sent to a

lab for dna and fingerprints? at the same time overnight we saw the nypd are releasing more images of the suspect. the clearest images of his eyes when he appears to be sitting in a backseat of the taxicab. that comes as the nypd has been doing a scouring of video evidence throughout the city. they were able to put together a time line to better understand this person's movement after the shooting that they fled through the alley, on a bike in central park. at some point they got into a cab and headed into the port authority building. they believe this person has taken a bus elsewhere. so, getting the images out there. hoping if anyone seen that person board a bus more importantly saw them when they got off of that bus to help them locate this individual. we also know that the nypd sent detectives to atlanta where it is believed that the bus, this person of interest took into new york city originally from. they are looking at video

evidence from that bus station to see if they can see a sign of him there. they will be checking for the other bus stations along the route as it made stops into new york city for additional evidence to pinpoint where this person might be, who this person is, you heard mayor adams suggesting they may have additional evidence that they are not sharing publicly about the identity of this person and possibly other evidence related to this case. at this point they are still putting the pictures on thrut and asking anyone with information to call the tip line. jonathan? >> one more question quickly for you. there are about eight different bodies of water inside central park. does the nypd specify which ones? or if they are looking at all of them? >> reporter: so, our law enforcement sources did not specify which one. we know from wnbc who was out there shooting video of the scuba teams they are in the area where the backpack was found so it is a body of water

near where that backpack, believed to be the shooters, was found. jonathan? >> thank you very much for that report. joining us now. msnbc senior law enforcement analyst, cedric, thank you for being here. as you know, we were just discussing nypd scuba divers are looking for evidence including the gun. how difficult is it to conduct this type of search? >> reporter: any kind of water search will present itself challenges. of course, there is also danger involved in that. they have skilled trained certified divers that are going to go into the water as a team. they are going to do a extensive search where they believe the evidence may be found. but, they are experts at that. it is a daunting task. not an easy task.

it takes time as well, too, jonathan. >> mayor adams said yesterday coat the net is tightening -- quote the net is tightening around the suspect. along with new photos and the what is believed to be the suspect's backpack. no gun but jacket and fake monopoly money. how will law enforcement use the evidence to track down the suspect. >> well, that is the investigation, there could be sweated and exset ra, could be belong, could be a variety of physical evidence that it may be able to acquire it and match it up with a suspect. if there is some identification on this person. there is quite a bit of

evidence should that be the backpack belonging to him. there is opportunity there to gather a great deal of evidence. that is within and also on the outside of that backpack. >> what new challenges could law enforcement face as this manhunt, now in the fifth day, wears on. do you think they might already know the name of the shooter but are not telling us yet? >> well, you know, that is lard to determine. i can tell you as a former chief myself in these investigations particularly high profile you have to be careful how you share information. you want to keep the community engaged in terms of here is what we know, the person we may be looking for but they still have to be cautious to make sure that they do not in any way impede on the investigation as it moves along. even though all of us are ready for this person to be brought to justice it has been five

days, they got a lot of work still yet to do. and even if they have identified someone they have to be careful in terms of releasing that information and sharing it. and all of the circumstances of your nypd work. >> you know, the fbi announced a $50,000 reward for information about leading to a conviction. many people are angry about the state of u.s. health care and have said on social media that they won't help find the suspect. how could it impede the active investigation and do you think the new reward will help? >> reporter: i said it days ago because of the different messaging out there, people who have had personal negative experiences with insurance companies across the country,

sad to say, unfortunately should not be this way, people will be empathetic in people who could identify him or could recognize him. maybe someone hesitant because of their ill feelings towards our insurance industry. our medical insurance industry in this country shouldn't be that way. i would encourage anyone, if you know who this person is, you think you seen them, notify your authorities, we need to get this individual off of our streets in this country. that was a very brazen act of violence that should not have occurred and should happen to no one, john than? >> thank you very much for coming here this afternoon. up next. what president-elect donald trump told kristen welker this morning including who he thinks should go and in what order.

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. president-elect donald trump is shaking things up in typical trump fashion in an interview with kristen welker that aired today on "meet the press." trump said he will quote likely pardon those jailed for attacking the capitol on january 6th and offered his thoughts on the fate of the january 6th committee members including former congresswoman liz cheney. >> cheney was behind it and thompson. everyone on the committee. for what they did. honestly, they should go to jail. >> so you think liz cheney

should go to jail? >> for what they did? >> everyone on the commit sny. >> anybody that voted in favor of it. >> are you going to direct them to send them to jail? >> no, no, not at all. no, i am going to focus on drill, baby, drill. >> joining us now april ryan senior white house correspondent and bureau chief, msnbc contributor of "black women will save the world an anthem" let's start off with your thoughts that he had to say. do you think it is a clear example of him making good on seeking political retribution? >> reporter: no, this is kind of controversial and two sides of the coin if you will. he is saying no, that he he is not going to tell his people if they are confirmed. patel and the others and head

of doj to go after liz cheney and bennie thompson but yes, he feels that they should be held accountable for voting against him in the january 6th select committee. any time donald trump puts your name in his mouth there are people who go after you. that is a fact. it is not myth, not conjecture. so, i am not surprised that he made those comments to "meet the press" today. but at the end of the day this is who this president is. his whole campaign was about retribution. that is what he spoke about there morning. >> and as we know, kash patel for fbi director has an enemy's list in the back of his latest book. so the president-elect does not have to act him to do it. he written himself he will do it. april, listen to trump's comments about those who were arrested for attacking the

capitol on january 6th, watch this. >> i am going to look at everything. >> everyone? >> okay. >> but i am going to be acting very quickly. >> within your first 100 days? >> first day. >> first day. >> yeah. i am looking for it. >> issuing the pardons >> how long has it been. three to four years, you know, by the way, they have been in there for years and they are in a filthy disgusting place. that should not even be allowed to be opened. >> april, your reaction? >> january 6th was something we all saw. it reviberated around the world. they were not going for a pleasant trip with a picnic basket to celebrate the statues and the fallen heroes. they were trying to go after the current government leaders and trying to secure donald

trump as president at that time. that was the day that they were securing the electoral college votes. even vice president pence was in their target. they were looking to hang mike pence. and, yet, these people are considered honorable? it is beneath them to be in jail? something different than we understand and what we saw in our history books. >> right. what we saw live on that day and just in the pictures we were showing as you were answering that question. i want to turn to trump's immigration plan. here is some of what he had to say on that. >> first of all they are costing us a fortune. we are starting with the criminals. we got to do it. then we are starting with others. we are going to see how it goes. >> who are the others? >> other people outside of

criminals. we have convicted murders. we don't mean people who are just even on trial. we have people that murdered numerous people are on our streets and in our farms and we have to get them out of our country. >> do you think trump will be able to execute the plan he laid out? >> others outside of the criminals, that is the piece. who you look at the others, there are so many facets to the immigration system. it is the broken border. at that border it is not just mexicans. we keep talking about it. people from el salvador, brazil, people from all around the world. who are us -- asians and who are the others? the question begs, for those who are here legally and there could be some confusion on if they are here, do you need to keep your immigration papers with you at all-times? who are the others that donald

trump is speaking of? i talked to someone, doing a story this week on immigration, i talked to someone, an african that left and went back to west africa. he was deported during the first trump administration. because of a glitch i asked if he could come back and he said no, the system is broken. whror the others that the president is talking about? that is what we need to know. >> also in the interview, kristen asked him directly about families where they are status different. some are u.s. citizens and some are not. the president-elect said then the whole family has to go. it is a political and social impact of that if he were to fulfill that promise.

>> reporter: not just political and social there is economic. this country has a balance. we have a balance in this nation for illegal immigration. this nation's economic system works through that. also, if they are gone, if there is a mass deportation, walmart, the head's of walmart even said that it will cost prices to rise. from your groceries at the store that sells your fruit, to your breads. also, in need of a car in the next couple of months, and there is a tariff? let's talk about the tariff, too? talking about the immigration system and punishing countries because they are not doing the right job. if there is a tariff, 25% tariff on parts in mexico and are -- who are the people? when you are pulling in families those families work on

farms, landscaping, factories, different places. it will cause an impact, a ripple impact that will impact all of us. >> that is indeed the case. april ryan, thank you very much for coming to the show today. up next, big questions for the future of syria following al saad ousting. you are watching msnbc reports s for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best.

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quarter of century after his father that took control in 1971. now with the long-time leader gone, questions are swirling about syria's future. joining us now, senior editor at bloomberg. talk to us about the moment, what are the risks facing syria as they begin to chart a new path forward. >> jonathan. if you would not mind i would like to start out by pointing out the opportunities before the risks. you are talking about a country and people that have been traumatized for generations as you pointed out. these two, father and son, ruling for decades and in the last 15 years they endured incredible trauma at the hands of the most brutal regime in the world. yet, they persevere with little violence. so, that is something to hold on

to. >> reporter: it seems way back in the rear view mirror but these people have had an opportunity see what happened to the other countries. egypt, yemen, in libya, they had, now, plenty of opportunity to learn lessons. you have to allow the possibility that these people will have learned the lessons and going forward we will do things differently from those countries and get it right. as you point out the situation is fragile. we are talking about a country devastated. it will take enormous resources, human as well as financial to build this country back up. millions of people displaced from their homes for over a decade. millions of them live abroad as refugees and turkey. bringing them all back.

these groups that overthrown assad don't have a history of being united. they have history of disagreement and violent between them. you have to watch out for the risks of backsliding. but, at this moment of optimism, you also have to do what all syrian people are do, they are clinging to the possibilities rather than the barrels ahead of them. >> talk to me about this, nbc news confirmed that u.s. forces just carried out dozens of precision air strikes on islamic camps and leaders in central syria. will it detour isis for filling the power vacuum in syria? >> it will. isis controls a small part of syria compared to 10 or 15

years ago. and, quite in by the kurds and the east and u.s.-backed forces from the south. so, they are tightly contained. but, they will be looking, isis will be looking at an opportunity to quickly expand their reach. so, the u.s. is bearing down on them from particularly from the air will help a lot. clearly the rebel forces will be on the lookout for any chance that isis might want to break out of that in the area and expand that inwards. they will take all of the help they can get. it seems to be the right thing to do. you let the rebels who done most of the hard work and regime. you let them work with other groups and try to figure out what to do next with the country. meanwhile, you help, we as the u.s., we help by keeping a lid on isis and making sure they do not take advantage of the

situation. >> one more thing, the coalition appears to show leadership that has historic ties to al qaida. is there still a possibility that a hard line islamic government will get the power back? >> there is a possibility. i find it unlikely because there is, there is a core of islamic group. that group could not have won this stunning victory. they are aware of it. they evolved in the last few years, the language they used in the last few days seems much more inclusive. not the kind of language we heard from the past. are they bluffing? there is that possibility. within the dynamics off of the opposition, there are, there is a wide spectrum of different groups, at the moment, no one

group has dominance over every other group. there is the awkwardness of the fact that some of the groups united states and others regard as terrorists that led this fight back have a price on their head from the united states government. that is a real awkwardness that will get in the way of diplomatic initiatives in the days ahead. but, right now, i would say, you never say never in situations like this. especially after a traumatic several years in a country. but at the same time seems unlikely we will see the group slide all of the way back to where they were and return to the worst manifestation of themselves. >> thank you very much for coming to the program today. >> thank you. coming up, breaking news, liz cheney responds to donald trump's assertion that she and other members of the january 6th committee should be in jail. head to capitol hill for a live report. capitol hill for a live

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from capitol hill, julie what are you hear something. >> we covered the january 6th committee into what happened on that day extensively. certainly liz cheney is no longer a member of the house and lost her position when she joined the panel and played comments about the then president-trump's comment on that day. certainly the two have had bad blood for years. her statement is coming after trump told our own kristen welker that members of committee should be jailed. this is not the first time he suggested that about liz cheney. donald trump attempted to overturn the election and seize power, mobilized a angry mob sent them to the capitol where they attacked police officers and halted the counts of the votes, trump watched on television as the police

officers were brutally beaten and capitol assaulted. now, trump's suggestion that members of congress should be whale r jail side say continuation of his assault on the rule of law and the foundations of our republic. trump also said in that same interview with kristen welker he may pardon some of the defendants his supporters who were arrested and charged for storming the capitol for breaching the building and for trying to stop that certification process from taking place. and, so, all of there is definitely important to watch. i will tell you just as i was walking into this building today. capitol police officers notice that. they made remarks to me about that. there will have practical effects on the people here who are getting ready for a second trump precedency. john than? >> i will get you on one more thing. i understand you have new reporting on chairman -- said, what are you hear something.

>> reporter: to be clear, key members foreign relations and intelligence still are waiting to be briefed. they expect to be briefed in the next coming hours or tomorrow after what is unfolding in syria. syrians have a real opportunity to move passed the horrors inflicted by bashar al-assad under his family's brutal rule. we heard from the other side, top republican on the foreign relations committee who spoke out about this as well, of course, he kind of echoed it. every leader we heard from said the same thing a moment they are weakened but question marks remaining on the future of there and how syrians will rebuild their government. you heard biden say the u.s. will assist them militarily and

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