wish you all the very good and a very safe night. it's one of those nights where we need to take a deep breath and look forward to the sun coming out tomorrow. for now i am signing up. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. we will see you again tomorrow. it's been quite a night. i will see you at the end of the day tomorrow. okay. i will start with something that jumped out at me from

trump's interview with kristen welker. especially because the way it's been interpreted by some, and that's way trump talked about retribution. >> you campaigned on destroying the deep state. do you want kash patel to launch investigations into people on that list? >> he will do what he thinks is right. >> will you direct them quick >> not at all. >> are you going to go after joe biden. >> i'm not looking to go back to the past but looking to make our country successful. retribution would be through success. >> pam bondi talks about investigating the investigators. do you want her to investigate jack smith? do you want to see jack smith investigated quick >> i think he is corrupt. >> are you going to director quick >> she is a smart person. she was a great attorney general in florida. i want her to do what she wants to do. i won't instructor. >> i want her to do whatever

she wants to do. now, summer listening to that and suggesting, out loud on television, that trump has changed. he didn't say he was going to direct anyone to go after anyone. his tone is different. he is a new man. retribution through success? that doesn't sound bad. before you jump to what i consider an inaccurate conclusion, listen to the same interview. he also said this. >> liz cheney was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on the committee, for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did. anybody that voted in favor -- >> will you director fbi director and attorney general to send them to jail? >> they will have to look at that. i will focus on drill baby drill.

>> he wants liz cheney and members of the january 6 committee in jail, but he's not going to direct them to do anything. now, the idea that trump would need to do direct loyalists like kash patel and pam bondi to do something like that is pretty laughable. there was never in any administration, and especially not his, going to be a formal sitdown or paper trail where he tells them in a memo and bold print from the white house, go investigate my enemies. here is an attached list signed donald trump. it doesn't mean he's not giving them directions because he is including that interview. pretty directly. the boss says liz cheney and members of the january 6 committee should be in jail. is it that different because he didn't scream that direction? because he attempted to give himself plausible deniability, i suppose. of course not. how do you think kash patel and pam bondi will hear what he says in that interview?

if you think you know the answer, they already know what he wants. they have known it for a long time. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. >> she should be impeached and prosecuted. >> through the president's wife at the former secretary of state -- think of it. the former secretary of state, but the president's wife into jail. it's very possible that it will have to happen to them. >> she should be prosecuted. nancy pelosi should be prosecuted. >> the judge and ag should be punished accordingly. >> a should be prosecuted. >> reporters don't want to tell you it is bye-bye. the reporter goes to jail. >> these people should be put in jail the way they talk about our justices. >> prosecutors should be prosecuted. >> kash patel and pam bondi

know what the assignment is. they have their marching orders, you just are the many times over. there is a reason he picked them for these jobs. trump hand-picked people for these positions who are ready and willing to carry the assignment out. that's how it will work with a little wink or nudge. comment here and comments there. saying it many times publicly. he did that also in the "meet the press" interview. he has been doing it for years. i sincerely hope trump decides not to go after his political enemies. i hope the loyalists he wants to install and they stop law enforcement jobs decide not to go after them either. we should all hope that. it would be better for the country but it's also important to be realistic in moments like this. to not put our heads in the sand because trump told says what he plans to do many many times. listen carefully, listen closely. he told us once again and that

interview what he wants to do. the tone might've been different but the message was very very clear. joining me as someone who knows a thing about retribution from donald trump, unfortunately. the former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york who was fired by trump back in 2017. i just gave my take on whether trump has changed his plans for political retribution. i certainly hope he has but when you listened to that interview and the clips i played yesterday, knowing what you know, what do you think? >> i think you have it pretty much correct. you don't know because the future is the future and people change their minds. something could happen in a different time line. as lawyers like to today days say, in the totality of the circumstances, a person who talked about retribution day

after day, week after week, month after month. he has appointed people as you pointed out who themselves have taken a page from trump's rhetorical book and said, they want to jail and prosecute people including, by the way, his first attorney general nominee who fell by the wayside, matt gaetz. and the substitute attorney general nominee pam bondi has said similar things. join they have with the fbi director nominee who has not only said things about prosecuting and holding people who had those jobs previously accountable, but has an appendix to his book that reads like an enemies list. i agree with your hope and join you in the hope that trump will not decide willy-nilly to go after political rivals doing their jobs. whether they were judges, prosecutors, whether members of congress, all of whom, by the way, enjoy some form of the immunity that trump has been seeking for years.

they are just doing their jobs. i hope that is true. but, fool me once as they say, we will see what happens. all the evidence points to the fact that trump doesn't have to instruct his people. he essentially instructed them by being on the television program on your network and saying this is what he wants with respect to the january 6 committee. i don't hold out a lot of hope, but a little bit. >> the reason these remarks, he said it many times before, but is first interview as president elect and it's important to not get numb to what he is saying. i wanted to ask, if he wanted to move forward with this for if his team, who know what their directions are, wanted to move forward and the justice department wanted to put someone like liz cheney in jail or make their lives difficult, how would they do it? what with the approach be? >> yeah, it's hard to know

because, as i said, most of the people that trump and others have been talking about are people who are engaging in conduct in connection with official duties. prosecutors bring cases, members of congress conduct hearings. they passed legislation. judges decide cases. all within the ambit and normal duties and obligations and the perimeter of their jobs which usually is off-limits for even a civil suit. much less a criminal prosecution. what i worry about is not so much at the end of the day that someone will be convicted and sent to prison on trumped up charges are false pretenses but the very act of making the inquiry which is an easy thing to do. to send someone to prison, and get them convicted, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. to open an investigation and

begin a process that puts people under the gun and cause them a lot of money, there life savings, is a much lower standard. you can imagine if they were going to do this, and i join you and your hope that they will not, as political retribution, they will find some reason to say maybe they destroyed evidence. they are saying that january 6 committee, i don't know evidence of that or there was a misstatement made in connection with some hearing, or there was something malicious in the way people went about it. after a year or two or three years it gets thrown out or defeated in court. people of had their reputations ruined in the meantime and bank accounts empty. that is my worry. i have talked to actual people and i know folks representing actual people who have been in government and on this list in

the crosshairs of people like donald trump and the people he plans to bring into government, and they are not people who run around with their hair on fire. they are reasonable people and they are worried about this. >> for good reason. as much as i think we're hopeful but i don't think we are naove and no what should be of what's possible. let me ask you about something that happened today. chuck grassley call for fbi director christopher wray to step aside. he has three more years and is term and there's a reason why they are tenured so think across different parties and administrations in a row for the good of the country, it's for you and your deputy to move on to your next chapter in your lives and i must express my vote of no-confidence in your leadership of the fbi. he was a trump appointee. you have experienced not exactly this but a version of this and what you think in this moment christopher wray should do? should he resign or make trump fire him, i suppose?

>> well, i am partial to having the record be clear. if you have a term of a certain number of terms but if you are christopher wray and you were appointed by the guy coming back into office and you shook his hand and he said i want you to be my fbi director for 10 years, and if the record reflects that you haven't done anything untoward or anything improper, you haven't laid down on the job, why should you leave? allowed this historical record to show the person who wanted you to stay for some other reason, it's his constitutional right to fire christopher wray, i'm not disputing that, but if the point is you want to remove a fbi director to put in one that's less qualified, who has less of the proper disposition to be fbi director and who will go after your political enemies, then the record is

better for history to have demanded to be fired rather than resign voluntarily in advance. >> preet bharara, we have to talk about kash patel. there's a lot to unpack there. i will talk about it with my panel coming up. thank you for joining me. if you're looking at senate republicans to be a check on some of trump's controversial picks for top job, i wouldn't be holding my breath too long. we can be hopeful that my panel political insiders is standing by to talk about what we saw on capitol hill today. a lot of nominees were there and we will be back. back.

some of trump's most controversial picks for top cabinet jobs are on capitol hill today. tulsi gabbard, pete hegseth, kash patel spent the day making the rounds with republican senators. gabbard has faced partisan criticism. for good reason.

for propaganda she talked about spread by russia and by bashar al-assad's toppled regime. pete hegseth is ranging from sexual us to drinking issues to the mismanagement of nonprofits all of which he denies, but there is a lot of record for all of it. kash patel has built a career around the conspiracy theory that bureaucrats in the deep state have tried to overthrow donald trump. patel has said he would like to close the fbi headquarters and reopen it as a museum of the deep state. concerning stuff, it should be. apparently not for every republican or not some republicans after kash patel met with joni ernst today she shared a fawning post on twitter and listen to how senator john cornyn reacted to one of his stated goals for the fbi. >> are you concerned that some of the things that patel said he would want to do on day one,

close to fbi headquarters, fiery number of agents? >> i interpret that as hyperbole. >> i think one of the things we learned in the trump era is assuming things as hyperbole is a dangerous game. the bigger question is whether someone like kash patel, of all the nominees, why? why is he getting the benefit of the doubt of all of them? hopefully, this group of people joining me at the table will know more. joining me former senior adviser to speakers ryan and congressional reporter and staff writer for the atlantic mckay coppins. danielle, i will start with you. you have been doing a bunch of reporting. what you see publicly isn't always the full story privately. what is going on with kash patel? are you hearing different tunes privately or is that what people telling you? >> it seems he's resonating with senate republicans and could be confirmed as fbi director.

it depends on what happens with christopher wray. he is currently serving a 10 year role as fbi director and he would have to resign or trump would have to fire him for patel to replace him. it does seem he is resonating with the senators that need to support him to be confirmed. we are seeing that would not only kash patel and also with pam bondi. it is interesting to see after what happened with matt gaetz, the senators are coming around. matt gaetz was a personal thing and this seems to be different and discussions seem to be going well. >> there's lots of nominees nobody is talking about that will be confirmed. marco rubio, others will get confirmed and they're not necessarily controversial in that way. i don't understand the kash patel because he is a qanon advocate and has an enemies list in his book. why is this the reaction? >> you have to take yourself into the life of a republican

senator. when you go to your stay, you hear about the deep state and fbi and heather out to get fbi. what kash patel has said is pretty mainstream for republican voters so there would be a pretty big penalty to say that is disqualifying then your say your voters have disqualifying views. kash patel and the way he has carried himself since he was last in the trump administration last time. you have to imagine when you're sitting there making the decision is a political actor what blowback am i willing to take? i might be willing to take blowback for matt gaetz because i hate him frankly but i'm not sure i would take that for someone like this. >> some is picking and choosing? >> the other thing of being a republican senator right now is, you are in this situation where trump won with what you consider a mende, from your voters. you probably look at the slate of people he has nominated and think i can oppose one and

maybe two. i can't pick fights over five or six of these. i have to choose who i am willing to go against. if you hand full of republican senators privately went to the white house and conveyed that gates doesn't have the votes. i think tulsi gabbard might have more of an uphill battle given what she said about russia and syria. these are foreign policies -- republicans. i think if you are a republican senator, your base does not think kash patel is beyond the pale. some of these guys might go to the white house similarly behind closed doors but i think a lot of viewers are hoping for a cathartic experience and republican resistance to these nominees, and you are not going to get it. it won't happen with thundering speeches from the senate floor press interviews with righteous indignation.

it will happen behind the scenes if there is opposition to these candidates. >> i am surprised there is in this behind the scenes opposition to kash patel. let me ask about pete hegseth. it's an interesting case because at the end of last week, i thought and i think a lot of people were speculating he didn't have much longer and there were other names being floated. now, joni ernst put out a statement that raised eyebrows say today, as i support pete through this process, i look forward to a fair hearing based on truth and not anonymous sources which seems a shift of tone to me. what are you hearing about hegseth and now is a in it for a while? >> he is still in it for a while. this confirmation from senator joni ernst change what senators were thinking about the scenes about hegseth. he has a concerning past.

it seems it was a huge switch to have someone like joni ernst say she would support him, through the process. she didn't say she would support him for the position, but it was a vote of confidence to have that statement come out from joni ernst who is a veteran and survivor of sexual assault. >> and simon floated as a alternative which is interesting. as you all know, there are many stages in the confirmation process. if somebody drops out or pulls her nomination before a hearing, that's pretty significant. seems like a number these people will go to hearings. do you think there's a chance, there is more to come out about kash patel and hegseth's want answer questions. could that sway any senators or should we not be holding our breath? >> it may. joni ernst, there people trying to get to yes and those not

trying to get to yes. she seemed she was trying to get to yes. when she found herself in the middle of this firestorm, don't mantis if she meant to be but she was the center of gravity and pete hegseth that she probably realized it's not a good place for me to be. i am up for reelection. i don't want everybody asking me every time i go somewhere whether i support pete hegseth. we will let the process go and leave me alone and ask others about this guy. the hearing will be brutal. it's not just a republican hearing but there will be democrats asking questions. i wouldn't say he's in the clear. >> a few people write about the journey of the republican party. we only have 60 seconds so i will ask the hard question which is, do you think this would have been how these nominees would've been approached eight years ago? or is it a sign of trump's takeover? >> no question. it is a sign of his strength.

you look at his cabinet selection eight years ago, and had more extreme figures but they were people pulled from the normal ranks of republican politics and business. that's not the case anymore and the fact he nominated people who are pretty radical, kash patel you can objectively say that, and you're getting little pushback from senators means, it shows how much he has consolidated his power of the party. >> it was an interesting time in washington. thank you all. thank you for being with me. we talked about this a little, but serious back in the spotlight after a historic weekend. so are the revelations about tulsi gabbard's ties to bashar al-assad. stunning the reporting of congressional aides worrying she might like sensitive details about a syrian defector. syrian defector. woah, limu! we're in a parade.

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bashar al-assad, syria's longtime dictator, was forced to flee his country over the weekend ending half a century of rule by his family. his regime was notorious for its brutality. amnesty international condemned his cruel leadership by summing it up this way. attacks with chemical weapons, barrel bombs and other war crimes as well as murder, torture and forced disappearance and extermination

that amounted to crimes against humanity. it is unclear and what comes next for the syrian people. for the moment, many are simply celebrating the fact that assad is gone. russia along with iran have long supported aside backing him during the civil war. assad had sympathizers in the united states. including, former congresswoman tulsi gabbard. democrat turned republican who is somehow donald trump's choice to serve as director of national intelligence. back in 2017, gabbard was criticized for traveling to syria and meeting with aside. she was criticized for what she did when she returned home. as nbc news reports, she's been accused of repeatedly echoing propaganda spread by rush and the assad regime including questioning u.s. intelligence assessments that the syrian government carried out multiple chemical weapons attacks on its

own people. that is part of a bombshell new report by my colleague dan deluce where he outlines why so many foreign-policy experts opposed putting gabbard in charge of our nation's secrets. he highlights in an adult when a syrian dissident going by the name of caesar, spoke with the house foreign affairs committee behind closed doors. even though there weren't cameras present, he opted to cover his face during that meeting at the urging of committee staff of both parties. thanks to this reporting, we now know why. as he reveals, congressional is worried about one committee member, democrat representative tulsi gabbard. they were concerned she might leak information about the defector who had hidden his identity out of fear of reprisals from the assad regime. some worried she might reveal his identity to someone associated with the syrian government. democratic and republican aides told the syrians accompanying

the defector to ensure he covered his face before she entered the room just in case. in other words, they didn't trust gabbard, a democratic member the house at the time to keep his identity secret. we should note, spokesperson for the trump transition team calls the, quote, another smear by anonymous officials with no proof. it was not anonymous. the spokesperson also said gabbard has a top security clearance, top-secret security clearance and never breached the confidentiality of rules around classified information. it's a reminder of why so many national security experts think gabbard should not be trusted to safeguard our most sensitive secrets as national director of intelligence. i will discuss this in more detail and more with a reporter who broke the story as well as a man organized caesar's testimony, next. testimony, next.

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understandably under scrutiny and it comes after a damning story from nbc news i just talked through. that story revealed in 2018, congressional aides of both parties on the house foreign affairs committee did not trust them congresswoman gabbard with the identity of the syrian defector known as caesar who had exposed atrocities committed by the assad regime. joining me as nbc news investigative reporter dan deluce who broke the story that i just talked through. and the direct -- director the syrian emergency task force. this is quite a story quite a time happening in the world history is happening the past couple of days. , it feels like part of the big news in this piece is congressional aides of both parties on the house foreign affairs committee did not trust them congresswoman gabbard with sensitive information, to say the least. set the scene for us.

a meeting happening in 2018 and she had gone to syria in 2017. tell us what was happening in that room. >> it was 2018 and the house foreign affairs committee meeting, closed doors, with this syrian defector who had become famous known as caesar who exposed these terrible atrocities committed by the assad regime. executions, torture. >> photos people may have heard of. >> they wanted a private meeting with him and when he would meet with lawmakers privately, he would take off his mask and he would be himself and reveal his identity. however, there was concern among republican and democratic staffers who weren't confident that tulsi gabbard could be trusted. which she respect his anonymity? would she reveal his identity so they told caesar's team, please make sure he has his

face covered when she enters the room. that tells you the misgivings they had. >> it is quite telling and you helped set up the meeting and aides came to you from both parties, which is important for people to understand. what were the concerns they were expressing and how did you decide what to do with these aids? >> caesar testified before the house foreign affairs with the full disguise. it was a chance to have this conversation with members without caesar being sweating and hiding and having to whisper so his voice was not heard. we were really worried about tulsi gabbard. the democratic and republican staffers came to me first saying, custodians of the caesar file for a while and the anonymity and the protection of caesar is paramount because russia wants to kill him and aside wants to kill him. >> what were you worried was going to happen?

>> terrified that she may take a photo or record his voice or identify anything about his identity and bring it back to the adversaries whether putin or aside. >> it was not sure only interaction with tulsi gabbard. you were on the trip that she took in 2015. what is your view of she should have the top intelligence job? >> i am proud to watch what's happening in syria because it delivered itself from a horrible dictator ship. someone like tulsi gabbard would do everything they can to try to keep aside and power. she was a big fan. aside is gone but now my worries for the united states. tulsi gabbard is almost a perfect product of russian information operations. she backs things like, she's criticized allies whether it be japan or ukraine. she follows an ideology that distrusts -- goes along with

the narrative that putin puts out and i think that is dangerous. >> countries we share intelligence with. >> that is right. in a hearing, we could not trust her leaking a person's name so how could france australia share intelligence if they're not sure it might end up in the wrong hands? so they could withhold intelligence and that's not good. tulsi gabbard and other members to the border of turkey and syria to meet with victims, it was in 2015, there were little girls that talked how they were, parents got killed and they were burned from a russian airstrike and gabbard said how do you know it was aside? it's not about being misinformed, it's about even when you see the facts, you are still following a worldview of our adversaries and that's dangerous for any position rake even director of national

intelligence. >> john bolton said something this weekend i wanted to ask about. in the wake of asides departure there might now be files uncovered in syria about tulsi gabbard. we don't know that to exist but do you think that's possible? >> i think it's very possible. the number 1 thing we want to find in serious is americans taken by the assad regime and bring them home. in our collection of interrogation of these criminals, everything is being collected. there could very much be a lot of information on tulsi gabbard because she's the highest profile, anyone willing to visit a genocidal tyrant against her own party at the time. she was a democrat and against the other party, the republicans, and the establishment. they would have a lot of files on her and made sure to have

good relations and contacts with her. i would not doubt that john bolton could be right. >> thank you both so much for joining me. excellent piece. we will repost online. you have a big trip coming up so i appreciate you both. coming up. six weeks to go before the inauguration, democratic governors i tried to figure out how they plan to govern in second trump administration. for some, that means finding common ground when the can and saying things that might even be controversial at times. colorado governors one of them and he joins me next. e next. to support my muscle and bone health. qunol's high-absorption magnesium glycinate helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol. the brand i trust.

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as democrats grapple with the threat of a second trump term, their son making clear they want to chart their own course and in some cases, but the party line. one of those is colorado governor jared polis. he made headlines recently for proactively praising donald trump's pick mack of rfk jr. to lead hhs saying he helped us defeat vaccine mandates in colorado in 2019 and will shake up hhs and fda to make american healthy again. he has publicly criticized president biden's decision to pardon his son hunter. he tweeted a policy suggestion to elon musk and vivek ramaswamy, something few democrats have considered doing in recent weeks.

he proposed the elimination of the penny to save taxpayers over $300 million a year which is something that was discussed under the obama administration too. i don't agree with every comment the governor is made recently particularly when it comes rfk jr. coming out of a election were colorado outperformed blue strongholds, now is a time to be having this conversation. colorado governor jared polis jones me now. it's great to see you. i will start with your stance on rfk jr. he said you were trying to see the glass half full and i think people are in this moment of trump nominating him to lead hhs and you made the case he was appointed over us pharmaceutical lobbyist which is perhaps better. he is a guy who has pushed conspiracy theories about vaccines and today, over 75 nobel prize winner signed a letter urging senators not to confirm our of jake j -- rfk jr. why did you go out of your way

to compliment him? >> i strongly supported kamala harris, as you know. i traveled for her. i worked hard to elector, and it did not happen. i am trying to call balls and strikes. there will be things we will call out from what donald trump does. if he gets something we can find hope in, it's important to point that out. look, last time he did appointed pharmaceutical lobbyist as part of hhs and this time, i am hopeful that rfk will be a little better and open to innovation and importing prescription drugs from canada and focus on people's health. i share concerns of many about the remarks he made that's contrary to signs about vaccines and a supporter of increasing the vaccination rate to protect public health. donald trump won the election and let's try to find ways to work with him when we can so in

part, so we have the moral authority to oppose policies that are dangerous and undemocratic. >> of all these nominees, you are the governor of a state and you will be impacting by who's in the kata and governors and states are impacted a great deal depending on the member. are there any giving you pause, who you are worried about how their work might impact the people of colorado? >> i think kamala harris would've put together a better cabinet from top to bottom. when we're talking about people to work within the trump administration, doesn't mean we are enthusiastic about it. we will work with them and some are higher risk than others. you just covered some of the dangers with tulsi gabbard, and the intelligence role, she is capable but not an apartment that's so sensitive. there is legitimate concerns.

the appointment of the department of defense, is extremely troublesome. he has run small organizations and from them in the ground and he has problems with alcohol. i think he will have to convince people and it's an uphill battle. we need someone who can protect the nation's defense day one. it is a mixed bag and i strongly supported kamala harris and she would've had great people in the cabinet but it's important to be -- opportunity for the glass is half-full, we point that out. >> trump did an interview yesterday, his first since he was selected which is why it's interesting to listen to. you are a business guy so i wanted to ask about what he said about tariffs where he basically said, he can't guarantee tariffs wouldn't send prices up for americans. it was a longer answer. most economists have said they would raise prices on americans. what is your take on that and what are you telling the people

of colorado about the tariff plan click >> i say, i guarantee that terrace will increase prices for americans. when you increase the cost by 25%, it increases the consumer cost for 25%. mexico, guess were fruit on vegetables come from winter. gas comes from canada and imagine paying more to drive your vehicle. that will happen and i hope trump find an offramp and he is solving a crisis of his own making, of course, i will find a way to praise him for avoiding tariffs. if he goes down the road of tariffs, he will cause recession and it will damage americans. i hope as an american he finds a go off route and does not engage in this trade war. it would be devastating to consumers and american manufacturing because of retaliatory tariffs. >> another topic he talked about in this interview was about immigration. mass deportation.

he talked about deporting families with mixed immigration status which is something that impacts the people of colorado. he said, don't want to be breaking a family so the only way you don't break up the family as you keep them together and send them all back. what are you telling the people of colorado about that or about his mass deportation threats? it's a federal policy, but it's something i think people are looking to leaders in their states to stand up to. >> look, let's start with the common ground. just like some americans commit crimes, there are some immigrants that have committed crimes. if they provide additional assistance from the federal government to track down, apprehend, deport people who committed crimes, we are happy to help however we can. people who have been following our state laws and have jobs and paying taxes and living by the rules, we want to do what we can to protect them as well

as emphasize their importance to the economy. if you deport people working in the agricultural sector and construction, you increase the price of homes and increase the price of food, coupled with the trump terrace, it's a recipe for a major recession and disaster. >> governor jared polis from the great state of colorado, thank you for joining me. appreciate it. check one more thing to tell you about before we hand things off to rachel. off to rachel.

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constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which you are about to enter so help you god? >> i do. >> congratulations, senators. >> thank you. that was vice president kamala harris today swearing in democratic senators andy kim and adam schiff and republican senator pete ricketts. i think as we head toward a second trump term, there's a lot to talk about but it's always a good reminder to hear the oath that lawmakers take. democrats and republicans alike. that does it for me today. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> that was fantastic. thank you for playing that. i would not have seen it otherwise. >> we love