good to be with you. i'm katy tur. we have breaking news, new video of 26-year-old luigi mangione as he was taking into his extradition hearing in pennsylvania. we'll let you watch. >> clearly out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of

the people. >> you can see he's trying to get a message out there. it's quick, but it appears he is saying, quote, this is extremely unjust. it is an insult to the american people and their lived experience. while we do not have a definitive answer on what is exactly an insult to the american people, it does seem pretty clear mangione is animated by anger toward american health care. in the handwritten three-page document police say they found on him, he rages at corporate insurance companies, specifically united, according to police officials who spoke with nbc news. writing, quote, i do apologize for any strife or traumas but it had to be done. frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. the outburst and the document align with online posts that appear to belong to mangione. including a review of the unabomber's 1995 manifesto in which ted kaczynski decries

modern technology and its dehumanizing effect on society. mangione apparently writing, quote, ted kaczynski was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned, who maimed insbt people. while these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they're more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary. so is that what mangione was hoping for himself? in the aftermath of brian thompson's murder, a torrent of anger has flooded social media, some holding up mangione as a folk hero, as others vented about what it's actually like to deal with health insurance. >> no one deserves this, but as a mom who was nine months pregnant, sitting in the emergency room with my 1-year-old baby, being told she had a giant brain tumor that was causing her brain to essentially swell out of her head, she sat in the hospital for three days.

she needed to be transferred to new york city so she could have emergency brain surgery, and instead, we sat in the hospital for three days because unitedhealthcare refused to approve the transfer via ambulance from the hospital where we lived to another state. >> when my son needed a special type of bed to sleep in because of his disability, we applied through our insurance to get that bed. and they denied us that because he didn't have a disability. mind you, the only reason why he has y'all as his insurance is because he was diagnosed with a disability. >> and i get a notification on my phone that my dad's liver transplant was denied. they denied the liver transplant because they said my dad was not strong enough. at that moments, my dad gave up. he could no longer being mentally tortured. he was stuck in the hospital

throughout the entire holidays alone. >> it's resonating because it's familiar. i'm sure you out there have your own story dealing with a health care insurer. we'll dig in to the broader implications for that industry and what could change in a moment, what needs to change, but first we want to get you updated on the latest into the investigation, including details about the ghost gun. joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. mangione is inside this extradition hearing now. what is happening? >> reporter: he is disputing extradition, katy. he's been denied bail, so he's going to be taken back to the state prison in pennsylvania where he's being held. he's charged in new york with one count of murder, three counts of criminal possession of a weapon, one count of a forged weapon, and because he's contesting extradition, it may take as long as a month to get him in a new york courtroom to face the charges. he's also charged with lesser

charges in pennsylvania, but the murder charge takes precedent here. as you saw there, he is displaying defiance outside the courtroom. inside, he was more reserved but he did speak up on occasion to try to contest some things the prosecutor was saying, when he mentioned he was found with a bag full of $8,000 of cash that had high-tech features, he spoke up to dispute that. his lawyer and the judge told him to stop talking. but he appears to be animated and trying to defend himself. as we saw from the heated words he uttered outside the courtroom, does not appear to be contrite in terms of what is transpiring. >> a little bit more about the gun that was used. it apparently was a ghost gun. how did he get it? >> reporter: i have not seen any reporting on the details of that exactly, but what authorities have said is that this is a ghost gun that parts of which may have been printed on 3d printers.

the nature of a ghost gun is it doesn't have a serial number, it's untraceable and can be assembled from parts purchased online or at gun shows so it's a very pernicious weapon that authorities are really trying to get a handle on. >> all right, ken dilanian, thank you very much. joining us, friend and former roommate of mangione, rj martin. first, thank you for being with us. i know it's difficult to come on and have to talk about something like this. but you lived with luigi in hawaii. can you tell us a little bit about the guy that you knew? >> yes, so i founded a coliving space and luigi applied to be a member. we do an interview process. we do full background checks and i was fortunate enough to interview him. from the initial conversation, he was a great fit for our community. thoughtful individual, has a great job. was looking to come to hawaii to

give back, to stay healthy, to make new friends. he really was an ideal member for our community at surfbreak. and he continued on. he did great things when he was with us. he helped spearhead a book club. he was great to other members. he was always giving and considerate and thoughtful. i remember cooking meals with him and joking around. had a great sense of humor. we bonded over working out, over intellectual conversations we had at book club, and the thoughtful man, young man i got to know, it seems completely incompatible with an assassin. >> you talked about him, the back surgery that he had, the back pain that he had. did he ever express any anger toward the health care industry? anything that would seem resonant to you now that all of this is unfolding? >> no. he was one of the most positive people i know. he was always a cup half full

kind of person, the kind of person people enjoyed spending time with. i always looked forward to our hangouts. we had intellectual conversations about structural problems that the nation faces, whether they're governmental or corporate, but nothing stands out specifically regarding the health care industry. >> tell me about the structural and corporate issues you guys would talk about. what were those like, those conversations? >> the counterculture that america had in the 1960s made it really clear that we're on a course of action that's destroying the planet. for the present gain, for future loss, and i think that conversation and that data and that information has only become more clear and more loud as time goes on. those would be things we talked about or perhaps how governmental institutions are failing our citizens. you know, whether it is education or health care or wars that we wage. you know, these are intellectual conversations that, you know, we

enjoyed having whether it was over a meal or at the park during sunset, as we collaborated and had great talks in our book club. >> regarding the book club, what's the deal with the reading of ted kaczynski's book? how did that come to be? >> every week, it rotated who got to pick the next reading. every two weeks. however long it took us to get through something. another member and i kind of half jokingly proposed it. i kind of always wanted to read it but never had the motivation. i figured well, if we have to read it through book club, i have to get through it. it was my idea and another member's idea. it wasn't anything luigi was like inspired to dig into. >> it is interesting, having read the good reads review of it, and seeing what's going on right now, obviously, he's just a suspect, and no one has been convicted, but seeing the totality of what we have been able to understand about him online, including the three-page

document that police have given us a few details about, including anger toward the health care system and united specifically, i just wonder now that you're looking back and you're putting these pieces together, as we are, if there's anything that -- does this still surprise you? are you taken aback? you think something might have happened in the time between you last saw him and this? >> well, he was absolutely a kind person, not violent. never one to even watch, you know, violent sports. or talk about guns. so it's beyond surprising that luigi that i knew is completely incompatible with an assassin. >> you say that -- i read that you said that you lost contact with him. he left hawaii, got back surgery. he told you there was a story about it, he wanted to tell you

in person, but you never had that in-person conversation. when was the last time you guys were able to connect? >> that was earlier this year, maybe march-ish, when we had our last text communications. i followed up with him in the next three months in a row, kind of hey, what's up, bro. and didn't hear back from him. you know, our friendship was such that i didn't assume anything. i didn't take it the wrong way. i just knew that when we did reconnect, our friendship would start from where it left off. and just assume that maybe he had gotten a new job, moved back home. but i had absolutely zero thought or inclination that something had happened to him. >> rj martin, thank you very much for joining us. i know, again, it's a difficult time and it's got to be really confusing to try to reconcile the person you said you knew and the person that we're all starting to learn about and what

may have unfolded over the past few days. rj, thank you again. >> thank you. joining us now, nbc news national law enforcement and intelligence correspondent, tom winter, for a little more on the investigation. i want to talk more about the gun. what have you learned so far from police sources? >> so, it was made at home gun. but which home it was made in is the question. so was this something that he did on his own with a 3d printer or ordering parts? it appears to be more of the 3d printer variety. but did somebody sell it to him? that could potentially be a crime. did he steal it from somebody? that could potentially be a crime. we just don't know that. the providence of this gun, we just don't know at this point. we have a little new reporting that the nypd has a preliminary analysis of the shooting. and investigators are looking into whether the targeting of the ceo, brian thompson, and the culmination of mangione's

troubles and list of grievances, that the murder was a symbolic takedown in a fight against corporate power gains, that's something they're looking at based on the writings, based on the evidence they have uncovered, based on what we were starting to talk about yesterday, some of his social and online presence was starting to come into view. so that's where the investigation is at this point. that's according to multiple senior law enforcement officials who have been briefed on the investigation. but obviously, still more work to do. the motive here is part of that work. part of the work is also forensics, the gun. >> are we going to see this three-page document. if it's not posted online anywhere, what's the likelihood the police release it or will we see it potentially in any trial that goes forward. >> i have to imagine if this goes to trial, we would see it. we say it's three pages. but it's really only approximately 300 words. >> not very long. >> so i don't want people to think this is like a legal pad single space, massive diatribe

against somebody. it is actually much shorter than that as far as in terms of word count, but yes, at trial we could definitely see it. in new york state, we are used to federal indictments, the legal analysts say all the time, speaking indictments. plain english, really long, spelled out, detailed indictments that tell uz exactly what prosecutors allege or a grand jury votes on, so that we don't typically get in new york state. i think at this point, the best narrative we have as far as what went down yesterday came according to police from what they say happened inside, we might get some body warrant camera video from that interaction yesterday at the mcdonald's. that's something we could see potentially pretrial as a public records release. we may not see it because it's now part of an investigation. >> it seems if there is -- if the motivation is anger toward the health care industry and it seems like that's a pretty good guess at the moment, that mangione might have wanted to

have this conversation. might have wanted to be in a position to have that document come out, whatever he wrote, to put defend, depose, deny on the bullets, to force a conversation with the american public and our leaders about what is acceptable in this country. you can definitely disagree with the means by which he did it. >> that is the risk here. law enforcement is really concerned, and i think it's a reason why they haven't put out the full -- whether or not from a legal perspective and what can be released and not released, i think there is a real concern here in the law enforcement community of we have seen it here in politics with respect to two attempted assassinations. they're very concerned, are we going to start to see this with people who have an issue with this particular industry or that particular industry, and people going after ceos and leadership and high-profile people because of what they say or what they represent or whom they work for. so i think that's something -- >> one way to stop that from happening is to have the

conversation about what needs to change and what needs to be fixed, especially with health care, because everybody, almost everybody i imagine out there has some sort of negative story having to deal with a health insurance company. it's worth having this conversation, even if you disagree vehemently with the means by which -- because of which we're having it. tom winter, thank you very much. still ahead, let's talk more about the health care industry and what needs to change, what could possibly change, with a couple folks who have a lot of experience with it. don't go anywhere. >> plus, what options does iran have now that another ally has been kneecapped. >> and later, pete hegseth is making a comeback. what happened in iowa over the weekend that may have pressured one key senator to support him? we're back in 90 seconds. n 90 ss —s rapidly—leading to irreversible vision loss. now there's something you can do to... ♪ ( slow. it. down.) ♪ ♪ ( get it goin' slower.)♪ ask your doctor about izervay.

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violence that killed brian thompson. that's an act we would condemn no matter the motivation. we were shocked by the crime, we were not shocked by the outpouring of anger. we have been working on this issue for two years. what the data shows is that every year, insurance companies deny care to people 248 million times. and what that means is every single person in a household in america probably has an encounter with a care denial across the country. and let me tell you what that means. an example of the kind of care we have seen denied on our campaign is a woman who has a condition that causes pain when she eats that her doctors have compared to in stage pancreatic cancer. another woman we worked with has a disorder that is nicknamed the suicide disease because of the pain it causes, and unitedhealthcare fights her every step of the way getting care for her infusions that she needs to deal with that. people are dealing with that at their kitchen tables, and at home in private, and we think

the right thing to do is take that private pain, turn it into public power, and put pressure on these companies so they stop getting in the way of the care we need. >> you can't even understand your medical bills when they come in the mail. i was looking over one of mine last night. i don't understand what they're talking about, what fees, what is covered, what is not covered, what they decide to cover. i had an emergency apen dektdomy last year, $90,000 according to nyu, and insurance came back and said we're not going to cover any of this. ultimately, nyu had to fight and they covered it, but why does it have to be a fight? why is there -- what is the deal with this discrepancy? why do health insurance companies have a say in whether something is necessary medical care, dr. patel? >> this goes back to kind of how health insurance has been administered and kind of regulated in this country. there's a cap, what we call a medical loss ratio on the profit

that any insurance company, not for profit or for profit can make, and in order to contain costs, you see what we call utilization management measures, things that happened like in your case, as well as simple prior authorization or denials for a prescription that i might write, for example. so these are all really crude kind of machete-like mechanisms to cut down costs, plain and simple. and it's been longstanding. this isn't new. many of us who are physicians have been kind of vocal about how they're not effective and trying to move for policy changes on a national basis. medicare is responding, but katy, probably not fast enough, as we have witnessed. >> so what is the change that you would want to see, dr. patel, as a provider, as somebody who has gone out there and trying to help people every single day? >> yeah, let me walk through what i have to do. if i write -- first of all, prior authorization specifically, one form

utilization management where if you submit a prescription for a certain drug, maybe you know it's a brand of expensive drug for a certain condition, i can almost guarantee i know i'll be getting a prior authorization. we have full-time staff, usually a nurse, dedicated to dealing with a lot of the paperwork. i say it all the time, we're one of the few industries who use a fax machine. we often get back and forth into a faxing game and we know we're up against a clock. there's a patient who needs the drug. i didn't write it because i have nothing better to do. people need it. we often have to go through a back and forth via fax, that can take several days. and then when you get a denial, you appeal the denial. if you're savvy. if you're not worn down and your doctors will work with you, you can go through the appeals process. many times when you appeal, they are successful, but you can see, it can take on average several days, a week, full time, just to deal with some of these measures. so that's what we're dealing with, and you kind of have to hope you have a doctor's office

that will work with you on this or a provider that will work with you on this, and that's getting harder and harder to do. the ama has found that a majority of physicians including myself, are frustrated for this reason. and would love to see something different. and i think we can talk about some of the policy changes that are being done nationally and at the state levels, but again, not fast enough. >> this is something that it seems like we need to address at the federal level. and it's something that might be worth the time of congress or definitely is worth the time of congress and an issue that cuts across politics, and this is evidenced by, you had matt walsh and ben shapiro, right-leaning commentators saying this was the left cheering on a murder, and if you just go through the comments underneath these episodes, for these two men, the comments are just angry at the hosts for not understanding what americans are going through. i'll read you some of this. being rich is blinding you.

it's not a leftsh issue. we're not left wing for hating a guy whose bread and butter was other people's suffering. i'm not saying you should be cheering on his death, but you're out of touch with regular people when it comes to the issue of health insurance. there's a couple more. ben, the multimillionaire is out of touch. he never has money or health care issues. i like ben's show but this is a tough pill to swallow. this system actively chooses to let people suffer and die. if they were in the street, they would be a gang. in an office, it's just business? again, these comments cut across political lines here. what is the pressure on congress to do something about this? >> i think congress should note that millions of people across the country are expressing their frustration and anger and pain. and they should also understand as you just pointed out, this is not a left versus right issue, this is a top versus bottom issue. these corporations have too much power and they're blocking at least two big epidemics from

being resolved. one is the epidemic of gun violence, and the other epidemic is this tidal wave of claims denials that is affecting households all across the country. 248 million times a year. congress and every policymaker needs to get focused on getting these companies out of the way of care for everyday people. >> i know the knock on socialized medicine in other countries is you have long waits to get scans, to get basic medical attention. there has to be a good balance between what other countries have to deal with, the problems they have, and having to go through these insurance companies that will wait you out here or, you know -- >> can i give you an example of what that means? a woman i mentioned earlier, she's a former republican state legislator, an emt. she has to have this regular infusion of ketamine to deal with a situation called complex regional pain syndrome. it's nicknamed the suicide disease. every time she gets an infusion,

she has to fight with the insurance company on it. when you're talking about wait times for care, she has to spend all this time fighting with her insurance company, and the delays cause financial hardships, at one point, she had to sell most of what she owns. we're one of the richest countries on the planet. we can do better than this. everybody should get care no matter what they look like or what community they're in and congress and other policymakers have to get focused on getting these companies out of the way of the care we need. >> donald trump won partially because he promised people change. and that he was going to blow up a system that was not working. is he going to deliver on that? derrick crowe, dr. patel, thank you very much. still ahead, is syria going to modernize or is the country about to enter a new period of hard line islamic rule? and what it means for the broader region, including our relations over there. and four years after his corruption trial began, benjamin netanyahu testified today.

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two days after rebel groups overthrew bashar al assad in syria, its capital damascus appeared to return to normal today with people going back to work. but will it last? here's nbc news chief international correspondent richard engel from damascus. >> reporter: this morning, israel is using the stunning and swift collapse of syria's dictatorship to take over a buffer zone. new footage shows israeli tanks in the golan heights along contested area along israel's northern border with syria. arab states have denounced the move as an illegal and provocative land grab. israel says it's temporary. prime minister benjamin netanyahu called it necessary.

our control of the golan heights guarantees our security. it guarantees our sovereignty, he said. israel is also bombing in syria now, striking heavily in and around damascus. israel says it's targeting military and scientific research facilities to destroy stockpiles of chemical weapons. israel clearly does not trust the new rebel movement that toppled bashar al assad and doesn't want it to have the dangerous weapons. the rebels' leader once commanded an al qaeda faction, but split from the group years ago. abu mohammed al jolani is still considered a terrorist by the u.s., and in the turmoil of syria's collapse, the parents of austin tice, a journalist who went missing more than a decade ago, say they have renewed hope. >> in chaos there's opportunity. this is an opportunity. and it feels stronger than any that we have seen or felt in a

long time. >> reporter: thousands of syrians are also searching for their relatives. and this morning, they came to the notorious prison to search. but all they found were nooses used to execute political prisoners in batches. they're describing this as a human press, a torture devise that prisners would be put on this slab and then crushed in order to torture them. in another torture room, they showed me a photo of her son, missing for more than ten years. he was sentenced for being a militant, my son was a nurse, she says. despite all their searching, families got few answers. no prisoners were found alive. >> joining us now from damascus, richard engel. god, what incredible images. horrifying stories. i should also note, we're still looking, america is, for austin

tice, the journalist that's been missing in syria for the past i believe 12 years now. richard, what can you tell us about the next steps for the country and where it seems to be headed? >> reporter: well, there are a lot of open questions, a lot of concerns here about where this is headed. there's relief on a most basic level. you said that life is sort of returning to normal. it doesn't look or feel normal. there's a completely new reality here. you see rebels, many of them with long hair, which is typical of islamist and islamic movements, patrolling the streets, carrying guns. there's a curfew in place from 5:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning. every day, we're seeing new statements from the leader of the rebel movement who is now running this country, describing how he's going to be more tolerant. this is a leader who used to be the head of an al qaeda faction.

so a new reality is setting here, but it is nothing like the dictatorship of bashar al assad. and there are concerns that this country could descend back into a civil war, while at the same time, people are happy to be out of the last civil war. so there is an uneasy uncertainty. >> richard engel, thank you very much. joining us now, correspondent and executive producer of pbs front lines film, the jihadist, martin smith. really good to have you. you interviewed al jolani, the head of one of the rebel groups that came in and took a lot of credit for ousting bashar al assad. and is somebody that could be one of the next leaders or if not one of the main leaders of syria. can you tell me who he is and what his motivations are? >> he's got a very interesting history. he was put on the terrorist list in 2013, prior to that, he was a

young man who after the u.s. invasion of iraq, decided to go up and fight the americans. and after not so long, he was put into an american prison camp that worked as something like a jihadi university. when he got out, he went to baghdadi, the head of isis, and said look, i want to fight in syria. and he got baghdadi to give him $60,000 to go across the border with six men and begin to build an al qaeda faction in northern syria. i met him in 2021, he was already in the process of rebranding himself. he had broken, as richard said in the previous segment, he had broken with al qaeda, he had broken with baghdadi. when i was there, he was fighting, having skirmishes with their cells around idlib province. so he struck me as serious.

entered a room with a bunch of armed guards wearing ski masks. sat there for a few minutes. in he walked and we talked for many hours. and i told him, look, i want to do an interview. i want to ask you anything i want, and you can say whatever you want. so that was the beginning, a few days later, we were off in another undisclosed location and did a long interview with him. >> you know, you asked him about what he believes in and what sort of rule he would impose. you talked to him about sharia law. he's done some interviews since, and correspondents have asked him about what the future holds and what sort of society he envisions for syria. i'm going to play the latest one, from sky news. this interview that was done today, actually, with jolani about what's going to happen next, what syria will look like. let's listen. >> the fears are unnecessary, god willing. the country will be rebuilt. the fear was from the presence of the regime. the country's moving towards

development and reconstruction. it's going towards stability. people are exhausted from war. so the country isn't ready for another one. and it's not going to get into another one. the source of our fears was from the iranian militias, hezbollah and the regime that committed the massacres we're seeing today. so their removal is a solution for syria. the current situation won't allow for a return to panic. >> all right, so he was being asked, what's the message to foreign countries who are worried or concerned. do you find him believable? is he going to be somebody who is going to work with the west, perhaps try to stabilize the region, or are we in for another version of syria from ten years ago? >> i'll turn that question around. will the west work with him? right now, he's being attacked by israel. and it's unclear whether or not he can even assuage the various

groups, minorities within syria. the alawites, the kurds, christians, and others. he's got his work cut out for him. i would say he should quit now and turn over the control of syria to your salvation gump, as he calls it. >> really good to have you. sorry we can't go longer. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, katy. >> coming up, what evidence benjamin netanyahu laid out in court today as he became the first sitting israeli prime minister to take the stand in his own criminal trial. >> plus, she was among the most skeptical of donald trump's defense secretary pick, so why is joni ernst now sounding like she might confirm pete hegseth? what happened in iowa over the weekend? he weekend? can take 1 prilosec. for easier heartburn relief, one beats ten. prilosec otc. one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn. what's up, you seem kinda sluggish today. things aren't really movin'.

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i want to get your take on what's next for the region after we're seeing what's unfolding in syria and what you think it might mean for iran. >> well, certainly, there's good news and there's uncertainty as well. the good news is that iran and its proxies and the whole access has been severely weakened, and you know, yahya sinwar attacked israel a year and two months ago hoping to destroy israel. in the meantime, hamas has been all but demolished. hezbollah, its leadership has been taken out. syria is out. and i would say iran is certainly on the defensive. this is good news. however, the new replacement is an unknown. we're talking about a very radical individual, jolani. who grew up in al qaeda, and the fact that there is some facade

of being a bit more moderate, i think it's way too early to say that. we have to be very cautious. that's why israel is not just standing on the sidelines but it's acting. we created a buffer zone, and we have taken out much of syrians' lethal weapons so that the damage they can cause others will be minimalized. >> i know that you have taken out the navy as well, you're talking about the buffer zone that israel is now enforcing. has the country reached out to al jolani or the interim prime minister in syria to try to figure out which path that country is going to take and whether the path might not be so hostile toward israel? >> well, it's way too early because i'm hearing the words. the words are moderate and he's talking about building -- >> has israel reached out? have there been conversations? >> at this point, the main thing was to deny this new regime of

lethal weapons of mass destruction such as chemical weapons. we need to make sure that regardless of whether they turn out to be positive or negative, they do not hold these weapons. later on, if we see over time that the new regime's actions are positive, then gradually we'll be able to review our policy. >> what does israel do now with iran specifically? we talked about that a little bit up top, but with the two options that iran seems to have in front of it, another double down on its nuclear program or try to find a way to stabilize relations with its neighbors, where does israel see its role here? what will israel do? what might they do in the face of this -- these potentials? >> i could say what i would do as a prime minister of israel. what i would do at this point, there's a high risk that iran

will try to break out for a nuclear weapon. they have enough highly enriched uranium for 12 nuclear bombs. so what i would do, i would strike iran's nuclear and regime capabilities with two goals. diminishing their nuclear program as much as we can, and i'm not talking about a one-off. i'm talking about a sustained attack. and i think the goal of the west should be ultimately to topple the regime of the islamic republic of iran. it's a horrible regime that's been oppressing its own people, that's been exporting terror, rockets, and death to the entire region. and i think the world will be way better if this head of the octopus of terror will be severed. >> there's some domestic politics then if you are running for prime minister, if you decide to go up against benjamin netanyahu, or if benjamin

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