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covered a little bit of ground today. if you want to get in touch with me about go to arimelber.com. put in your email address and sign up for my newsletter, you can send thoughts and comments there. my i am on the other ones, too, if you want to connect on social. i hope you have a good evening. we will be reporting tomorrow from washington. keep it locked tonight because "the reidout" with joy reid starts next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i can't say i'm thrilled with him. he invaded my home. i'm suing the country over it. he invaded mar-a-lago. i am very unhappy with the things he has done. >> donald trump gets his wish.
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christopher wray, who trump made fbi director is stepping down, clearing the way for matt gaetz loyalist kash patel to burn the agency to the ground. police say new evidence directly ties suspect luigi mangione to the murder of the unitedhealthcare ceo and we are learning more about his background. and house democratic leader hakeem jeffries on the house majority and how democrats are preparing for the upcoming trump administration. we begin tonight with a little civics. the constitution enum routes three coequal branches of government. legislative, executive and judicial. the idea is to prevent a branch from becoming too powerful. people would fight to defend their own power. that's how you get the checks and balances. well, those checks and balances are collapsing daily under republicans. all three branches are simply bowing down to the incoming
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president. case in point. late today fbi director christopher wray announced be stepping down. >> my goal is to keep the focus on our mission, on the indispensable work each of you is doing every single day. and in my view this is the best ato avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray. >> in normal times wray, appointed by trump during his first term, would have served out his full term through 2027. but this federalist society republican -- is obsequious for trump and republican senators were willing to play the role of the incoming autocrat's marionettes. chuck grassley issued a letter criticizing wray for investing trump for stealing classified documents and investigating russia's interference in the 2016 election. and he suggested that wray and the deputy ought to move on to
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new opportunities before posting a picture with trump's preferred nominee kash patel. obvious trump appendage is alabama senator tommy tuberville. >> several senators up here are trying to be relevant. wait a minute. the people of alabama give a referendum to me, said, you vote for whatever donald trump wants. and that's exactly what i'm doing. so these people from the senate from alaska, donald trump wins alaska. she is going to play judge and jury over donald trump's picks. i don't understand this. >> why to we pay you? we should get a rubber stamp and get the money instead, right? no surprise that tuberville doesn't understand his explicit article 2 clause 2 constitutional duty to advice the president on and consent or refuse the appointments of judges, secretaries and ambassadors. this is the guy who thinks the three branches of the government
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are the house, senate and executive. he is displaying the corrosive effects of trump's grips on america where he and his fat cats are looking to blow up the constitution because it restrains his power too much. what they want for america instead is a model based on russia and hungary where the victims have demogished the checks and balances. they control the media, parliaments and everything else. independence is reviled and rejected. in the usa it's called the unitary executive theory, a conservative concept that power isn't shared. it's concentrated in the president. especially donald trump. elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, trump's project 2025 friends like russell vought, they all believe that the president deserves total centralized power. despite this country's founders having fought a literal war to
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withdraw from the british monarchy. in trump's america not only is the president immune from prosecution for stealing classified documents or insurrection or, i don't know, maybe murder, republicans want to expand his powers to include something called impoundment. so what is that? it is a concept that the president has the constitutional authority to impound money from projects that have already been approved by congress. congress will send trump a budget with allocated funtsds for specific things and he can say just look at it and go, yeah, no, i don't want to set aside money for medicaid or veterans care. i would rather cage families and prosecutemy enemies but thanks. he surrounded himself with players who will get back his power including mark pay let a, who will return as general counsel to the office of management and budget working closely with russ vought.
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he happens to be besties with clarence and ginni thomas has written about trump's proud impoundment power. his goal is to give trump the power of the purse. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy hold similar views. in their november op-ed they wrote skeptics question how much federal spending doge can attain through executive action. it stops the president from ceasing expenditures authorized by congress. trump suggested the statute is uncrucial. what they are referring to is a law signed by congress after president richard nixon tried what trump is going to attempt, refusing to spend money on anti-water pollution efforts that congress had appropriated. the move was so brazen that nixon's assistant attorney general william rehnquist, yeah, that rehnquist, wrote a memo
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stating that there is no constitutional right for the president to do that. the then supreme court unanimously agreed. congress passed a law that said that impounding was always illegal when not explicitly authorized by congress, but they set up a process through which presidents could but only with congress' participation, which brings us back to today. with a congress willing to do whatever trump wants and a supreme court that agrees trump should have the freedom to do whatever he wants with this so-called unitary executive power. joining me, history professor at new york university and conservative attorney george conway, contributor to the atlantic i can and president of the society for the rule of law. i want to start with you about christopher wray because there is a saying among those who bnt want to fight autocracy. christopher wray clearly fears
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trump and stepped down. your thoughts? >> yeah, i mean, i wish he had not done that. i wish christopher wray had not done that for the reason that you say. professor's schneider's quote on tyranny. i wish he would have gotten fired so we could point out and it would illustrate how extraordinary this situation is where the president of the united states, who is a convicted criminal, an indict -- what is been indicted on federal charges, is firing the fbi director for the stated reason that the fbi director conducted a search based on probable cause found by a united states district judge to search for stolen secret classified documents that he hid from the fbi and lied about, and then lo and behold, the documents were right where the search warrant said they were. >> go figure. >> this seems, you know, this seems -- me, me, me, all about
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trump. he has the lawful power to fire the fbi director, but let's see him do it and let's have him explain that it was all about him and the fact that he committed a crime and he got called out on it. >> yeah. and the impact of this, i would guess, i am not in the fbi, i would guess if you are a field agent that got some intel that donald trump stole more classified documents or you found out that he was planning another attack on the capitol or planning to do some other crime you are going to be a little weary to try to execute that kind of a search, to try to do your job. this literally to me opens the door for donald trump to steal whatever classified documents he wants, who is checking, boo? to do whatever illegal -- he should be in more trouble. he is getting away with it because he is president-elect. i can't imagine any future fbi director let alone kash patel ever investigating him for anything. >> yeah, that's the chilling effect of being in advance and
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his bullying. it's unfortunate that, i agree with george, that he is -- that christopher wray is resigning. the language he used, he said he is doing it so the department doesn't get dragged further into the fray. but the fbi didn't create the fray. they were simply trying to enforce the law because donald trump had, you know, classified documents in his home because authoritarians don't recognize any boundaries between public and private. so the mess or the fray was created by donald trump in doing those illegal things. and yet director wray is, it's as though they made the problem. and that's exactly what trump wants him to be. >> yeah, there is a saying that napoleon used to say, i am the state. nixon, his term, if the president does it, it's not a crime. now we have essentially a reverse j. edgar hoover.
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donald trump controls the new fbi director, kash patel, he will get through, i am sure. let me let you listen to some of the things that susan collins said. she is already ready to put in the guy that donald trump wants for whatever position. here is what she said back in the day. she wants it to put in hegseth. brett kavanaugh back in the day, there would be no overturning of roe v. wade. kavanaugh says -- collins called it consistent with what kavanaugh said during hearings. they are trying to pretend that donald trump is promising that everything is going to be fine and hegseth is not going to drink any more and everything is going to be good. they want to be fooled. >> yeah. well, i mean, that's who they are. i mean, we have seen this movie before. i mean, this isn't the first time where republican -- i mean, tuberville, i mean, he needs a playbook with diagrams of the constitution. maybe that's what he'll understand. >> picture book. >> yes.
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but, you know, we have a -- senators have an obligation to exercise independent judgment. and here you are basically having senators ready to advocate that role. and that's not surprising because we have seen it before. i mean, it's what we saw two impeachment trials where the man was unquestionably guilty and he didn't consider -- most of them didn't -- >> and mitt romney said they were afraid for their lives. the idea is that the supreme court will save us, yet don't count on it, they sided with trump on whether trump can use the pentagon for the border wall, which is not what he is allowed to do. supposed to be address appropriating that money. the supreme court can institute a travel ban against muslim countries. john roberts said that if you didn't in trump versus the united states, part of his ruling, the president would be chilled from taking bold and
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action required of an independent executive to take duties of his office. he repeated bold and unhesitating action over and over and over again, ruth, because even the supreme court agrees that the president must be a king otherwise it destroys the presidency. so if you have got the senate collapsing, the house, obviously, is going to do whatever it wants and the supreme court won't help us, we are out of gas. >> yeah, that's the -- one of the definitions -- the core definition of authoritarianism the executive overwhelms the other branches of government and all checks on the power and situation of the president or head of state are removed. and it's even, you know, senator tuberville, again attentive to language when he says that the people of alabama gave him a mandate and that was to do whatever, you know, donald trump wants. that's kind of abdicating -- i thought the people who voted for him actually want him to govern
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down, take care of his constituency, take care of their these. instead, everything must rotate around donald trump. is called personalist rule. it's a type of offshore when you have a strong one person, this is all of my straw men in my book. and the purpose of the party and ultimately government is to solve the legal and financial and other problems of the leader. and so everybody becomes a personal tool of the leader, and that's what's happening now. everybody is folding to his will. >> new york is not going to let him get away -- he owes that unin, right. that's the ones he can't get away from. he will be able to grift the hell out of the presidency because everyone is going to be feeding him money. >> they know they won't be subject to federal prosecution because. attorney general of the united states is going to look the other way whenever a story comes out on msnbc or cnn or "the new
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york times" or propublica about somebody grifting off the administration and profiting on the government. it's going to be a lot for people out there, journalists to call out the corruption. that's one of the things that i think people miss about the authoritarian label that is well expressed in ruth's book strong men. we may not see jack booted thugs on the street at this point. maybe with the -- >> with the immigrants and -- >> what we will see is the first thing that you see in any kind of regime that's run by a narcissistic sociopath who only cares about himself and advancing his own power is corruption. >> yeah. >> this is -- >> guaranteed. >> the corruption will make our heads spin. that's the most important thing to focus on in the first instance, i think. >> indeed. ruth, to give you a sense of who donald trump is chatting with, viktor orban tweeted about his visit with trump, saying the future has begun.
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donald trump hosting tucker carlson, kid rock and mike flynn, general mike flynn, who previously lied to the fbi. mel gibson, russell brown, roger stone, giving awards at mar-a-lago. he is gathering people who are qanon affiliated. people, they are going to be able to also continue to grift to make money and as long as they stay associated with the leader. >> and these are very radical people. i mean, you know, general flynn is a hub of qanon and christian nationalism. roger stone has decades of -- he used to work as a lobbyist nor dictators these are people who have long experienced with destroying the truth, destroying professionalism, and any kind of boundaries between public and private for the leader, any kind of democratic notions of accountabilitiability and transparency. some have been working on this project a long time. i am not surprised they are
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celebrating now. >> they will be feasting on the american economy and ordinary people i think will be surprised how little they get out of this whole deal. ruth, including people who voted for trump, thank you very much. wait. you got props? it says don't blame me, i vote for sanity. that's what george brought today. he brought me one as well. we will send you one, ruth. thank you very much. the latest on the case that continues to grip the nation. the details on the ceo a shooting suspect's motivation. don't go anywhere. n. don't go anywhere. with who you love? get back to better breathing with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems. serious allergic reactions may occur. get help for swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens or you have a parasitic infection. headache and sore throat may occur. ask your doctor if fasenra is right for you.
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new insights, potential evidence and searing debate pour in regarding the murder of unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson shot to death in new york city last wednesday. prosecutors are charging 26-year-old luigi mangione with the murder. though the suspect is put up a fight, refusing to wave contradiction to new york. the charge came afters after mangione was arraigned in a pennsylvania courtroom on gun and other chrjs related to his arrest earlier monday at a mcdonald's in altoona, pennsylvania. the nypd said a gun seized from mangione in pennsylvania matched three shell casings found at the manhattan crime scene. you will recall words deny, defend and depose were written on the casings, a phrase associated with intip think towards the health insurance
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industry. his fingerprints matched those found near the crime scene. in addition to allegedly carrying a three page manifesto, he was carrying a notebook. two sources familiar with the investigation said the notebook included writings such as what do you do, you whack the ceo at the annual parasitic bean counter convention. it's target, precise, and doesn't risk innocence. joining me is jim kavanaugh, msnbc terrorism contributor and analyst. jim, so great to talk to you. he comes from wealth. and i think that is not necessarily unusual when you see people doing these sorts of things. they had the leisure time and resources to plan it. but correct me if i'm wrong. with his wealthy privileged background a factor here in his profile? >> well, he is a deep thinker, joy. you are making a good point. he is a deep thinker and he starts to think so deeply that
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he goes down rabbit holes where murder is justified. basically, is a fanatic, as churchill described, a guy who can't change his mind, won't change the subject. he is yelling and screaming these phrases as he is being led into the jail by the deputies. he is totally obsessed with his mission, which he outlined in his 300 word paper. he is on a mission. he is angry at the health care industry, corporate america in general. you know, as you just described, he wanted to kill the ceo, not only other innocent bystanders. that's why he didn't use a bomb, he said. he is a fanatic. it's great that he left a trail of bread trucks so we can all follow the evidence right to his doorstep, you know, gun matching the shells found at the murder scene, fingerprints at the murder scene, writings talking about doing the murder, you know, his picture of his face at
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the hostel, the same i.d. used at the hostel. that's great for the prosecutors to lead the jury right to their verdict. but i think, joy, he had -- i don't think this was going to be one. he talks about the parasites and he talks about the health care industry at large. i thought the first morning this happened when we were discussing it on msnbc, don't only assume that mr. thompson was the only target. he could have been the first starring. it's still a targeted attack. that could have been a first target. and i also just to close, i think his behavior tells us the rest of that same story. he is sitting in mcdonald's. he has a laptop computer. he still has the murder weapon and the silencer, 10,000 in cash in a backpack, still wearing the disguise. if he want to get away, why didn't he toss that gun in the river? >> right. >> and, you know, get a plane to
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kathmandu or something. no. he was going to do another one. another murder. >> let's talk about some of the things that happened around this. with the mcdonald's where he was caught is now getting flooded with negative yelp reviews. the woman who apparently turned him in needs to probably be getting security. people are attacking that person for having turned him in. there is a linization of him that is happening not unlike what you see people like, you know, like the endez brothers, killed their parents, ted bundy back in the day. what do you make of that? >> you know, 36 years as a cop and federal agent, i see that as situation normal. they lionized david kerr everybody, john dillon jer, ted bundy, killers, bombers, you know. there is always a segment of society that says, oh, he is cute, oh, i like him, i want to
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marry him. people have been going to marry people on death row since the '20s. so it's really not new. they are running, you know, for the publicity of it, the in the moment-ness of it, the attention it has. maybe there are feelings against the health care industry. >> i think that's clear. >> you can have feelings against the health care industry, but a back shooter, a coward, the ultimate coward shooting a man down in cold blood in the back of a sidewalk. he likes ted kaczynski, as well. maiming people. the unabomber, sure. he is reading him for guidance. so that tells you a lot. >> thinking it made a difference in the industry, the guy who is the new ceo of unitedhealthcare said that what they are going to
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do to make sure we acknowledge and honor the legacy of brian thompson, we will make sure care is safe when people need it and guard against the pressures that exist for unnecessary care. they are not changing the policies, guys. that's something y'all need to keep in mind. thank you very much. up next, house democratic leader hakeem jeffries joins to discuss how he and his caucus are planning for the second trump administration. don't go anywhere. trump administration don't go anywhere.
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donald trump returns the white house in january along with matt gaetz control of both houses of congress barely. republicans will have one of the smallest u.s. house majorities in history making house democrats the last backstop against the headwinds of republican autocracy. and they have been holding firm to their values. you may remember this iconic speech from my next guest. the opening speech of the 118th congress in january 2023. >> i also want to make clear that we will never compromise our principles. house democrats will always put american values over autocracy.
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over bigotry, the constitution over the cult. the democracy over demagogues. economic opportunity over extremism. freedom over fascism. >> that was just a taste of representative hakeem jefferies' floor speech as the first black lawmaker to lead a political party in congress. it's the basis for a book, the abcs of democracy and hakeem jefferies joins me now. here is the book. this is a good idea you decided to take that speech. did you memorize it or did you say it off the tome or did you have it written down? >> it wasn't written down and there is no teleprompter with the exception when the president delivers the state of union address. my gut told me to go there, so i just did it. i am thankful i made it through without making any mistakes.
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>> you did a good job. so you start off with american values over autocracies. let's talk about. christopher wray said today what i think a lot of people would describe as complying in advance to an incoming autocrat. he could have tried to stay through the 2027 term. what message does that send to democrats who are willing and trying to fight for -- and, you know, normal republicans that want to fight for democracy? >> he could have stayed and fought. so there is some disappointment on the hill. but i do have great respect for christopher wray and haven't always agreed with him, but he has been a principled fbi director and stood up against far-right extremism as best he could repeatedly, including against the former president who nominated him at different times. always tried to defend the fbi as an institution. that said, i think that these classic american values and this notion of the rule of law and the constitution and the fact
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that we are not a nation based on the rule of man is going to have to drive all of us as we move forward into this incoming administration and i expect that that is certainly something we are prepared to do as house democrats. >> one of the sort of core values of america has been the welcoming of immigrants, right. it's written on the statue of liberty. you are seeing the trump administration, incoming trump administration saying day one they are going to allow i.c.e. to enter things like churches, mosque, funerals. there are religious organizations pushing back and saying you are just violating the sanctity of the church. schools, being able to stop immigrants in front of a preschool. how is that going to be defended or how can that be defended by democrats? >> schools, hospitals, church, synagogues, mosque should all be off limits, and i think that if the new administration want to go down this road, you will see a massive backlash from the american people. we have a broken immigration system. we have to reform the asylum
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system. it is overwhelmed and overloaded. we need a strong, a safe and secure border and we should try to figure out how we can come together as democrats and republicans to enact comprehensive immigration reform and make sure that we are continuing the promise of america as a nation of immigrants, but also as a nation anchored in rule of law and secure the border. >> is it realistic to think about some legislation with the republican party, which is is not a matt maga party. >> i think the american people have to make clear while we understand the need and it is appropriate to make sure that violent felons who are presenting a risk of harm that every day americans and who are here unlawfully should no longer be here. at the same period of time, we should be focused, of course, on those violent felons and not family. and i think public sentiment is going to be critical.
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abraham lincoln often said, with it nothing can fail. without it, nothing can succeed. though we won't have the gavels, we can make sure that the american people push back against far-right overreach if it occurs from the incoming administration or, dream maga republicans in the house. >> not just in the house. donald trump has appointed two billionaire bureaucrats, vivek ramaswamy and elon musk, to head what essentially is a blue ribbon commission. it's not an agency. not part of the federal government. but they are going to be making recommendations to slash things that could include veterans benefits, headstart, things that are scheduled to expire. they could be deregulating their own industries giving themselves deregulation and tax cuts. what is the plan to resist that? >> this is an area we are prepared to aggressively push back. we have made clear.
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we will find bipartisan common ground with the incoming administration on any issue when this makes in a difference in the lives of the american people particularly relating to driving down the high costs of living in the united states of america. that's a clear message that emerged from this election. at the same period of time we are going to push back against far-white extremism, protect social security, medicare, med cared, the affordable care act, headstart, protect efforts to undermine veterans benefits and we will always protect the woman's freedom to make her own reproductive health decisions. >> you will need to find a couple of republicans. still a majority. are you recommending, by the way, your members to join the house equivalent of this committee they want to create? it's not really a real committee. >> we will have that internal discussion. as i understand it, the person charged with executing this vision is marjorie taylor greene. are you kidding me? this is not a skeerious effort when you put marjorie taylor
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greene in charge. it speaks for itself. >> indeed. talk about the incoming house minority. it contains the largest congressional black caucus in history, 60 members, which is a big deal. you will have a much more diverse caucus at the same time that you are having this massive push against diversity itself. what is the significance in your mind of that? >> well, we just celebrated the 100th anniversary of what would have been shirley chisholm's birthday november 30th. she would have been 100. and it's interesting to me that shirley was elected in what was a tough year. 1968. richard nixon wins the presidential election. same year. martin luther king jr. was assassinated. rfk was assassinated. it's a reminder in the midst of a storm, positive things develop. when shirley chisholm was the first african american woman in the congress and the congressional black caucus was founded just a few years later,
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there were 12 men and one woman, shirley chisholm. now there will be 60 members currently in the congressional black caucus, 31 black women, all standing on the shoulders of shirley chisholm. so i think the house looks like america, feels like america, has the life experiences of america on the democratic side. that's a wonderful thing. >> do you think that same idea should be applied to the democratic national committee, which doesn't seem to be considering black women to run even though black women voted 92% for kamala harris. >> i expect they will play a prominent role in shaping the future of the dnc and so stay tuned. >> what about one of the members of the -- james clyburn, agust member clearly, suggested that one of the things that maybe joe biden should do is pardon donald trump. what do you think of that? >> well, listen, my view is in terms of the pardon discussion and i stand on the shoulders of
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jim clyburn, so we have got nothing but the greatest degree of respect. i haven't talked to him about his thinking but look forward to getting his point of view. but my view has been, listen, you have got a lot of low-income americans of every race, but disproportionately african americans and latinos, who have been overrun by the criminal justice system, particularly non-violent offenders who were caught up in the failed war on drugs. and to the extent that we are moving forward with massive criminal justice reform, at least over the next few weeks in terms of what should be done using the pardon power, that's where the focus should be. >> and in addition to that you have political prosecutions people like marilyn mosby, also looking for pardons. should president biden go big in terms of pardons? there is also people on death row. donald trump is a circuit of the
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death penalty and probably would use it excessively if he got back in. should president biden are more aggressive about thinking about pardoning more people? >> president biden has to evaluate these things on a case-by-case basis at the same time go as big as possible. including looking at examples of aggressive prosecutions as it relates to people like marilyn mosby. >> the next year, i mean there is a continuing resolution to fund the government. this is an annual thing, decide whether republicans are going to try to shut the government down. what is the status of getting a continuing resolution done? it would take us through march. the house passed a defense authorization bill. that's done for now. what are the chances the government shuts down next march and you would provide the votes for things like ending dac or something like that? >> house republicans, they should not count on us to bail them out unless there is a responsible spending agreement that meets the needs of the
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american people in terms tv their health, safety on national security and economic well being of the american people. there is no big mandate to jam far-right extremism and right-wing policies down the throats of the american people. let's be clear. to the extent there is a mandate it's for us to work together and bring the american dream to life for everyday americans all across the country. to the extent they are interested in advancing that project, they will find koomtdtive democrats. to the extent that they are trying to jam these far-right policies down the throats of the american people, they are going to have to do it on their own, which we know they are incapable of doing. >> mike johnson had a rough time with the majority he had. it's smaller now. have you had conversations with him about what he is going to need because he is going to need your help to get much of what he needs to get done, done. >> we haven't had that conversation at this point in time because i think we are trying to wrap up the year and spending agreement in terms of that continuing resolution and trying too secure the disaster
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assistance that the american people need. these are people all across the america, red states, blue states, purple states, right, extreme weather events impact everyone. we have to wrap up the business for this year and then we will turn to see what the playing field looks like next year. >> let's get in on something. what do you want people to get out of this book? >> well, it's an illustrated book for people of all ages that tries to capture the american journey that we have been on, the american values, institutions, ideas that made us the greatest democracy in the history of the world. elections come. elections go. presidents come. presidents go. democracy must endure. hopefully, this provide a little bit of a blueprint. >> presidents come, presidents go. i have ask about voting rights. what are the chances we will have solid voting rights and voting access by the first midterm in trump's second term that people can change the government if they don't like what he is doing? >> i talk about voting rights over voter suppression.
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schools, hospitals, and even at events like funerals, weddings, or protests. according to three sources familiar with the plan. well, this could mean immigrants will be living in constant fear of simply taking their children to school or picking them up after school or going to the hospital when they are sick or even going to church for a wedding because they might be arrested and deported. another example of the horrifying reality we are about to be facing and carried out what he is calling the largest deportation operation had american history. if you wanton an idea of how bad it can get, take a look at what's happening right now in the dominican republic. "the new york times" is reporting as many as 10,000 haitians are being deported from the country per week. and being driven out of the country in cages opt the back of trucks that look like they are meant to carry livestock.
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after more than a decade of war, it took weeks for rebel forces to topple the regime of bashar al assad. with the future of syria still uncertain, richard engel is in damascus with an inside look at the palace that once belonged to that country's now former dictator. >> reporter: the former syrian dictator bashar assad lived in a palace on a hill high above damascus. now it is under control of the rebels who overthrew it. today they gave exclusive tour inside. understand why he would not want to leave this? >> reporter: he and his wife seem to have modern taste. first greeted by the grand atrium accented by classic woodpaneled library. upstairs was for the family only, the apartment where the rebels say asad lived.
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>> this was the inner sanctum, there are thick, bulletproof doors, extremely heavy, solid metal, electric keypads. this could have been sealed off but in the end, it did not do any good. all of the security was to protect his bedroom, ransacked after he fled. >> reporter: there is something curious when you go to somebody's house, people want to see their bathrooms to get a sense of how they lived. this was assad 's private bathroom in here with a jacuzzi tub. i can't imagine he will be living this well in exile in russia. today, the new interim government said that syria is broke, cash flow did not seem to be a problem for the man at the top. his personal barber chair. you can imagine him here getting ready for the day. >> reporter: assad lived well
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as a dictator until it all ended for the man accused of being responsible for the deaths of half a million syrians, all to protect his life of power and luxury. >> wow, while the people of syria suffered and went hungry. quite a fitting end, i suppose, to that regime. richard engel, thank you very much. that is tonight's "the reidout". you can follow me on social media on blue skies and instagram and on tiktok and please follow our show on instagram, tiktok, and blue sky. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> are you going to fire christopher wray
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