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you for this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, the ongoing search for answers. where was luigi mangione in the months leading up to his arrest for murder, and what do new details about his back pain and health coverage tell us about a search for a motive. >> mayors and mass deportations. trump's incoming border czar and new york's eric adams, mayor of a sanctuary city, say undocumented criminals should be sent out of the criminal. what could a federal and local partnership look like? >> plus, shoring up support. with his time in office dwindling, president biden holding a virtual meeting with g-7 leaders focusing on the future of ukraine. the billions of dollars that are at stake. and hope for a cease-fire. exclusive reporting that the effort to win the release of hostages and pause in hostilities between israel and hamas may be closer than ever. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest

developments. we begin with that new information, as police try to piece together a motive against the suspected health care ceo killer. nbc's valerie castro is reporting from huntington, pennsylvania. what new details are we learning, valerie? >> reporter: chris, we're starting to learn more details about what police believe was the path that mangione allegedly took after the shooting that took place last week. they believe after riding a bike into and out of central park and then taking a taxi cab to upper manhattan near the george washington bridge area where there is a bus terminal, rather than leaving the city at that point, police now say they believe he jumps on a subway train and headed back downtown toward penn station and left the city from that point, making his way into pennsylvania. they say he stopped in philadelphia and pittsburgh, as far west as pittsburgh, before heading back east to altoona where he was arrested on monday. we're learning more about the fight to potentially bring him

to new york to face charges there. we know he is still currently being held here in pennsylvania in the detention center behind me. but the district attorney in manhattan spoke briefly a short time ago about the potential extradition fight, whether he will continue to fight extradition or waive extradition. take a listen to what he had to say a short time ago. >> i know the mayor mentioned quickly about extradition. i wanted to say, indications are that the defendant may waive, but that waiver is not complete until a court proceeding, which my understanding from court officials in pennsylvania, cannot happen until tuesday. so until that time, we're going to continue to press forward on parallel paths, and we'll be ready whether he is going to waive extradition or whether he's going to contest extradition, as you know, we have charged in a complaint and we're moving forward to the next step of it. >> reporter: now, of course, if

he does waive extradition, this is contrary to what mangione's defense attorney has been saying. he was saying they plan to fight extradition, so we will have to wait and see how this plays out. we're also waiting for the manhattan district attorney to hand down an indictment. we don't know when that will come, but governor kathy hochul indicating she expects that to happen any day now. >> valerie castro, thank you. now to what's being called a positive meeting between new york city mayor eric adams and incoming border czar tom homan. vaughn hillyard is following this for us. what stood out to you? >> this is for mayor adams, someone under federal scrutiny himself, and it's important to note here that donald trump will be coming into office and he sees there is a potential ally in donald trump. the two men, both under deep scrutiny by federal investigators. we saw in the lead-up to the 2024 election, eric adams talk about the migrant crisis and talk about crime on the streets.

so you saw a lot of messaging between these two men overlap with the tom homan meeting here, this is for donald trump, the border czar who he has turned to as not only, we should note, a behind the scenes operator who he wants help within i.c.e. and within dhs to execute on the policies of mass deportation, but publicly, he's been very outspoken and been very much his pr frontman. for mayor adams, these two men find themselves on very similar terrain here, and mutual respect and understanding that they both believe they can push their own political posturing and also try to push the policies that donald trump has vowed to take come office, when he's sworn in on january 20th. >> just to be clear, what they agree on is a fairly -- not fairly, a very specific sliver of what donald trump and some of his allies are talking about. thank you so much, vaughn hillyard. always good to see you. now to washington, where

president biden remotely led a meeting of the g-7 today. nbc's aaron gilchrist joins us now. what was on the agenda? >> reporter: this was a wide ranging agenda today that the g-7 leaders went through as they met early this morning. president biden, of course, here at the white house engaging in the meeting that was led by the italians, part of the meeting focused on the transition from italian leadership to canadian leadership of the g-7. they talked about venezuela, africa, and central among the topics they addressed in the meeting today was syria. the overturning of the assad regime there and their desire, the g-7 leaders' desire to make sure there is a smooth peaceful transition process to a syrian-led outcome in terms of how that country moves forward. there was also a focus on ukraine, as has been the case for this group for a couple years now. the focus really on the idea of making sure that they, again, articulate their support for

ukraine and their condemnation of the russian aggression in ukraine. we know the u.s. and these g-7 countries have just announced $50 billion in loan support to ukraine, $20 billion of that coming from the u.s., that would really be focused on repayment through frozen russian assxts the income generated by that. of course, there was also conversation around the cease-fire in lebanon, chris. wanting to make sure that is something that holds, and the activity that's been engaged in as of late around a cease-fire and hostage release in gaza. both secretary of state tony blinken and the president's national security adviser jake sullivan are in the region working on both the syria issue and the idea of a cease-fire and hostage release in gaza. >> thank you so much for that. >> meantime, new hope for a gaza cease-fire and hostage deal today after hamas dropped some of its key demands. andrea mitchell has this exclusive reporting for us. we understand benjamin netanyahu has agreed to a kind of broad outline of a deal.

is that right? >> he has agreed to that broad outline but there are still more details to be worked out. the big deal here is hamas has now made some big concessions. hamas, weakened by iran being weak, by hezbollah being almost wiped out, well, wiped out of its leadership, the collapse of assad, so it's lost its allies. lost its support. and a big factor according to u.s. officials speaking to me today was that donald trump last week went on truth social and said that there would be hell to pay in the middle east if hamas did not release the hostages before he takes office. that removed one big factor in that it made it very clear to everyone that the incoming president wants this done now. he doesn't want to wait and do a victory lap later. he can take some credit for it as he will most assuredly do if this is, but in any case, hamas has agreed israel can remain temporarily in gaza with its

forces in key areas that they have been demanding all along. that hamas will release hostages starting with the women, with the elderly, and with those who are ill or injured. and that they will also for the first time account for the remaining hostages, live and dead. they have not really given an accounting of who they're still holding. so those are key concessions. they will get palestinian prisoners so they have to work out the final number of palestinian prisoners, the final number of hostages to be released. this originated really a couple weeks ago in cairo with the israelis who also talked to hamas. hamas has been the key factor. israel has been honing out and isn't going to make some final agreement until they see hamas is for real. as one official taking part in all this was warning, we have been here before. this is the middle east. it could all fall apart, but they're more cautiously hopeful than any time since last may

when president biden put forth his proposals, and in this case, it's jake sullivan carrying the ball on the gaza deal. tony blinken has been going back and forth from turkey to iraq, back now to jordan. trying to deconflict turkish forces and american-backed forces in the northeast syria, and try to piece together the coalitions of rebel leaders because the collapse of assad next door in syria has been a big factor in the willingness now of hamas in gaza to make these concessions. >> andrea mitchell with that exclusive reporting. thank you, andrea. >> in 90 seconds, the white house says the mystery drones over new jersey might not be drones at all. we'll speak to the mayor of belleville about what's unfolding in the skies above his home state. ve his home state ly when they're eggland's best.

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we clearly saw several that would move horizontally and that immediately switch back in the opposite direction and maneuvers that planes can't do. the people of new jersey, kim argues, deserve more answers than they're getting. and residents want answers too. >> sounded like a helicopter. looked out the window and saw lights. you know, in the sky like a green light, red light. >> do you get the impression the federal government knows way more? >> absolutely, without a doubt. >> i want to bring in ryan nobles. as i said, ryan, lawmakers have questions. their constituents have questions. are there any plans, i don't know, for a briefing, for some meetings? what are you hearing on the hill? >> reporter: yeah, first of all, chris, this is really an organic issue here on capitol hill. it is one that came from the bottom up. it was the result of constituents just firing up the phones and calling their members of congress, upset and concerned about what they were seeing in the skies above them. and that is what led so many

senators and members of congress to then call on the administration to be more transparent about what they know about these aircraft that are in the skies above new jersey and new york, connecticut now even, all the way down to maryland, and you're right. it was remarkable that tweet thread that was put up by the newy elected senator, andy kim, who witnessed this with his own eyes, he wasn't just taking his constituents' word for it. i want to read part of a letter senator richard blumenthal sent. with a growing number of reported drone activity in the reej, it is critical that the faa take immediate and comprehensive action to insure the safety of the air space. i therefore request the federal aviation administration provide briefing regarding a comprehensive plan coordinated with interagency partners on addressing these concerns. these briefings should cover all details available, regarding these drones as to ownership, operation, impacts on aviation, national security, and privacy.

and what this kind of alludes to, chris, is this idea that the average american is not just going to take the government's word for it. you know, we saw john kirby come out yesterday and say don't worry about this. we don't believe it's a foreign actor but we don't know what it is. that is what has made people even more concerned. if you don't know what it is, then that doesn't make us feel better. listen to what congressman josh gottheimer had to say to that point. >> what's driving me crazy, and i think a lot of my colleagues in the state government and of course federally, is that the fbi and the department of homeland security, who are chiefly responsible for monitoring and being aware of what's up in the skies, is not giving us public briefing, giving us enough information, telling us where thee drones are coming from, who is sending them up, are they all unlicensed and unregistered, what are they? people deserve to know. >> and so, to answer the original question you had, chris, yes, there are plans for

briefings to begin. they happened at the staff level on capitol hill, but they haven't been all that revealing. the problem many members of congress see, even if they get classified briefings where perhaps they're given more information that would calm some of their fears, that won't be enough for their constituents. they want this information to be made available licpublicly, and transparent as possible. the fear is in the absence of the hard facts, conspiracy theories are going to run wild and make people even more alarmed. in other words, it's not enough to just say it's okay, don't worry about it. you need to know why it's okay and not to worry about it. that's what we see members of congress demanding right now. chris. >> if there's one thing we know, in the absence of facts, often, wild theories fill the void. ryan nobles, thank you for that. joining us now, the mayor of belleville, new jersey, michael melham. thank you for joining us, mr. mayor. what are you seeing where you

are? >> about two days ago, we started seeing a lot of activity over our air space in belleville. you have to understand, we're in the new york metro area. close proximity to north liberty international airport and we have residents reporting flying objects only a couple hundred feet above their homes. it's definitely cause for concern here. >> when you say a lot, can you kind of quantify it? i wonder how much you're hearing from people in your community. >> so i'm hearing and i'm seeing, so last night alone, social media was abuzz. members of our police department saw activity. one of our officers actually is a drone operator. he took some great video. another person is actually a flight attendant who lives here and she witnessed four drones just hovering right over one of our highways that's a direct conduit to the international airport and social media was abuzz between the parents pages and community groups, everybody sharing their video above their houses. >> so, i wonder who else you have been in touch with. have you been in touch with your

members of congress, have you been in touch with -- who are you talking to and are you getting any answers from anyone? >> so on wednesday, there was an unprecedented meeting. never in the history of new jersey has every single mayor been invited to a closed-door security meeting. about 200 of us attended that meeting, hosted by the state police and new jersey homeland security. we were in that briefing and we learned very little. it could have literally been a five-minute zoom meeting. instead, they corralled us all into one big room to tell us what they know, which is very little. at this point, when i left the meeting on wednesday, we knee what the state knew, which is very little. but there were some things that came out of it. they did tell us they know for a fact these drones are hovering over our critical infrastructure, which is depending on how you look at it, it's either alarming or it can be kind of settling. if we know who they are, if they're the bad actors that are hovering over our critical infrastructure, that's bad. if it's our own government that

put up assets in the sky to keep eyes and ears on our infrastructure, well, that could be something that's comforting. we just don't know yet. >> so i don't need to tell you, but as a politician, constituent services have got to be at the top of your list if you want to keep the job, number one. so what do you do if people are calling you, if people are -- i'm assuming they recognize you and stop you on the street or whatever. and you don't have any answers for them. >> it's difficult. especially as an elected official, as you said, to not have answers. sadly, all we do is tell them that we want to see something, say something. we have a direct line here in belleville, every municipality, we have a direct line to the fbi. we're told to take those reports and upload them directly to the system. but when you have our governor going out on social media and saying we don't know what it is, but we don't think it's a credible threat, you can't have it both ways. i have to tell you something. never in the history of new

jersey have 200-plus mayors been in the same room for the briefing and the governor didn't show up. that was insulting to all of us who took the two to three-hour trip to get to the meeting and have him not show up and have him say on social media, i don't know what it is, but it doesn't seem like a credible threat. you can't have it both ways. >> we're out of time, but what would you like to know? is it a simple straightforward question answered of what is it? >> so if i had one question to ask, i wouldn't be asking whose drones they are. they have blinking lights. they mirror faa regulations. i would assume they're federal assets. i want to know what they're doing, what they're looking for. they're flying in a grid fashion. they're not taking a picture and getting lost. they're hanging out night after night, flying in a grid formation. they're patrolling. they're looking for something. i want to know what they're looking for. >> mayor, check in with us some time next week and see if we

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associated press today, and it shows americans have serious doubts about president-elect trump's high profile cabinet choices. just 17% approve of his pick to run the defense department, pete hegseth. 21%, tulsi gabbard, as intelligence chief. and 30% are good with rfk jr. leading health and human services. this comes as many of these vulnerable cabinet picks are working around the clock with strategy to either reinvebt themselves, revise, distance themselves from past controversial statements. nbc's sahil kapur is on capitol hill for us. tell us more. what's the latest that you're hearing about thesis picks and what they're doing to prep for senate confirmation hearings? >> reporter: chris, a number of these nominallies are conservative media personalities who are known to stir the pot, say controversial things on the air. what they're learning now is getting ratings with maga viewers is not the same as getting 50 votes in the senate. to that end, you have pete hegseth cleaning umcomments that

women shouldn't serve in combat. he's facing two combat veterans. one of whom lost her legs fighting for have tulsi gabbard pick, singing a different tune all of a sudden on syria. you have kash patel, the fbi nominee, telling associates he recognizes he has to clean up some of the comments he's made on steve bannon's show about using law enforcement power to go after the media. one republican consultant said some of these nominees are in full bleach mode, according to a new story from our colleagues matt dixon, julie tsirkin, and henry gomez. the math in the senate is simple. republicans will have 53 votes. they can only lose three votes assuming for some of these controversial nominees democrats don't come in and rescue them. a fourth defection tanks a nominee. we're already seeing trump allies threaten primary challenges against republicans who don't toe the line on his agenda. some of that attention has come on senator joni ernst who faces

re-election in the fairly red state of iowa. a possible primary challenge if she doesn't support pete hegseth. lisa murkowski, the republican senator from alaska, has raised the question of how this trump white house is going to operate. are they going to try to build consensus with republicans or try to use threats and intimidation to get what they want from those who are not already with trump on some of these things. take a listen to what she had to say. >> you have an administration coming in that has had an opportunity to kind of see how things work, what didn't work, and now we have had four years to think about it. and the approach is going to be everybody toe the line. everybody line up, we got you here. and if you want to survive, you better be good. don't get on santa's naughty list here because we will

primary you. >> reporter: i spoke to murkowski a few days ago. she said she believes it's not right or fair that some of her colleagues are getting threats of primary challenges because they have questions about these nominees. >> meanwhile, president-elect trump is already backtracking on one of his biggest campaign promises, cheaper groceries. >> a vote for trump means your groceries will be cheaper. >> it will also bring your grocery bill way down. i have more complaints on groceries, the word grocery. sort of a simple word but means everything you eat. the stomach is speaking. it always does. and i have more complaints about that, bacon and things going up double, triple, quadruple. >> i haven't seen cheerios in a long time. bacon is through the roof, they're all through the roof. the milk, everything is bad. and we're going to straighten it out. we're going to bring prices way down, and we're going to get it done fast. >> now, trump tells "time"

magazine that while he wants to make groceries cheaper, it's, quote, hard to bring things down once they're up. you know, it's very hard. joining me now, former maryland democratic congresswoman and msnbc political analyst, donna edwards, republican strategist and former doug bermham presidential campaign spokesman, lance trover. trump also said if he failed to lower grocery prices as he promised, we just heard him repeatedly, it wouldn't make his presidency a failure. so what would it mean? >> i think this is being overblown. what he's doing is level setting with the american people, that's what he's doing. look -- >> he set the levels during the campaign. the level he set was, i will bring down grocery prices, and it will be simple. >> yeah, absolutely, but i think -- >> now he's saying it's hard. >> look, he's level setting with the american people. let's take a step back. joe biden and the democrats, it's very important to remember how we got here, so we can talk about -- >> we're not talking about how

we got here. we're talking about what donald trump said to the american people while he was running for president. he said, i'm going to bring prices down. it's easy. it's simple. now he's saying it's hard. >> well, look, this is important about how we got here because the democrats led by joe biden came in and spent trillions upon trillions of dollars in this economy, and lit inflation on fire. it is up over 20%. this is a massive hole we have to dig out of. and he also talked about there, and i think this is also critical and just as bad, are the disastrous energy policies that are also driving inflation in this country because it is the biden administration that has refused to make america more energy independent, make america more energy dominant unless it involves an electric car and a battery, they have refused to do anything. with that is higher energy costs for businesses and consumers. that's why donald trump has created the national energy council that doug burgham is going to chair because they need to find a way to fast track our energy policies.

that's one of the quickest ways we can reduce cost, if we get the energy costs under control in this country. >> he said it would be simple. congresswoman, after telling "time" magazine that it would be hard, then trump seemed to backtrack on the backtrack yesterday. he suggested that the answer was amping up production. take a listen. >> we'll do numbers that nobody will really see before, and when that happens, prices are going to start coming down because people can't afford their groceries, and they're going to be affording their groceries very soon. >> so suggesting that grocery prices will come down because, i guess, we're going to produce more groceries. he said production costs, he didn't get specific on that, but how do you think democrats should respond to this? >> well, i think democrats have to really take on donald trump on this. he campaigned on lowering grocery prices, as though an executive has full control over that anyway.

and he basically just finagled a story for the americans people that he knew wasn't true when he said it, and now he's trying to backtrack on it because he doesn't want to be held accountable when grocery prices are high. and in fact, some of the policies he's ruannounced like tariff policies for example against canada, which is our number one importer of eggs, well, eggs are going to go up if you put tariffs on canada. and so he's not being honest with the american people, and i think it's important for democrats straight up to hit the president-elect on these issues and not to let go of that. and they need to hold him to account for the words that he spoke to win an election that he is now backing off of. >> let me ask you, doug, about what -- lance, about what the congresswoman just said. in fact, experts, many of them do say trump's much talked about tariffs would exacerbate supply chain issues, his plan to deport

migrants would put additional upward pressure on food costs. if these core trump policies actually do not bring down grocery costs, do you think it's possible it would impact republicans who have to run on those decisions? it's amazing how quickly two years can go by, right? >> well, i first want to go back to what the congresswoman said. i don't know that anybody is going to be taking advice from democrats on how to lower costs when it's their policies that have put us in the position we're in right now. the american public recognizes we're in a deep hole when it comes to inflation. they know we have a serious problem at our border and i believe they're going to give the president a lot of latitude when it comes to using tariffs as a tool to work with other countries who need to come to the table and help us get this border under control. this is a border where fentanyl is pouring across every day, thousands of families are ripped apart every day. elegal immigrants are streaming in every day, and it's clear voters are sick and tired of it.

i think they're going to give him a lot of latitude when it comes to dealing with these issues. >> let me ask you about latitude. congresswoman, there is a question, trump came into his first presidency with a strong economy. it was created by the obama administration. inflation, not where most people would want it to be. but the economic recovery from the pandemic has been very strong. by most accounts, look at the stock market. the stock market is strong. but if grocery prices don't come down, do you think republicans will pay a price? >> well, let's deal with some facts, chris. i mean, inflation has actually been coming down. that there is growing pressure, i think, on farmers, for example, who know they are going to be put under enormous pressure and that will affect prices if trump proceeds with his immigration policy. i mean, all of these things have a downward impact on the

economy, and so i just think it's going to be really important to hold this president-elect accountable for the promises that he made to the american people and that inevitably with these policies he's not going to be able to keep. >> congresswoman donna edwards, lance trover, good to see both of you. >> i want to update you on something that just happened today. speaker emerita nancy pelosi was hospitalized on an overseas trip. she sustained an injury, but so far, they have provided no details of what happened or the type of injury she sustained. we're told she was admitted to the hospital for evaluation and her spokesperson said, quote, speaker emerita pelosi is currently receiving excellent treatment, continues to work, and regrets that she is unable to attend the remainder of the codel engagements to honor our service members during one of the greatest acts of heroism in our nation's history.

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just moments ago, we learned u.s. citizen travis timmerman

who was imprisoned in syria has been taken out of the country by u.s. forces. joining us now from damascus is nbc's matt bradley. i know you were one of the first journalists to interview timmerman. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. this man actually had told my colleague in a later interview he had been intending to go to jordan. now, it looks as though this was a guy who was extremely relaxed. i mean, remarkably so when he was speaking with us. he was asked repeatedly by people around him if he wanted to speak to his family or wanted to leaf and go to private and go into the custody of the american government. he regularly said more than once that he was fine. he was sitting enjoying his tea. he would take more questions from reporters. he had had a very unusual experience. he was reported missing in missouri earlier this year. he was last seen in budapest in may, and then he disappeared. he was off the grid. he told me yesterday that he had

walked across the border from lebanon into syria. and that he was seen by a border guard after he spent three days and three nights in the mountains in the woods crossing that border. he was found by this border guard, thrown into jail where he spent seven months. he said he was well treated and well fed in jail. then he said his only real complaint about prison was that he wasn't able to use the bathroom as much as he wanted. this is a very candid conversation, chris. he's now on his way. he was not a journalist, as had been originally reported. he was, he said, a pilgrim, and he had been told by christ, by the lord, he said, to make that pilgrimage to here in damascus where he was arrested. a very dangerous journey. >> yeah, it's not unheard of for people to make, as part of a pilgrimage, to try or to go to damascus, but did he tell you anything else about his journey,

about what compelled him to be there beyond what you have already said? >> reporter: i asked him that specifically, what was the religious belief that compelled you to make this very dangerous, some would say foolhardy journey that ended up in his arrest and detention. he just said he had been reading the scripture a lot lately and that's what made him make this decision to make this trek. so you know, the road to damascus is a famous conversion story. so maybe he was hoping to have just that kind of enlightened experience that has, you know, converted people from the bible. i'm not sure. he didn't really elaborate on this, but it sounds as though this was a man who, you know, a young man who was in search of something. and he went drifting off into the woods in the middle east to look to find it. >> found something very different, but now on his way home, we presume.

matt bradley, thank you. let's go to malibu, california. authorities there say the franklin fire is now 30% contained after burning for four days. according to cal fire, 14 structures, some of them residential, have been completely destroyed. but for the homes still standing in one of the country's most expensive housing markets, access to insurance is becoming a crisis as well. cnbc's contessa brewer is following the story. i know you have been reporting on this. what are the challenges now for consumers and insurance companies? >> i mean, part of the challenge is look at the wildfires themselves. this is a very late season wildfire hitting a heavily populated area of california. as you said, chris, very expensive. what's been happening is california has been in an insurance crisis. the rates that they need, they say, to justify the risk that they're being asked to cover, they can't get. that the insurance commissioner, which is a political elected

position, has been unwilling to raise rates for these insurers. what we have seen a slew of them do, state farm, the hartford, farmers, chub, and others, is to either severely limit their exposure in california or say we're not going to write new policies. so the state was in a crisis. they came back together. they created this sustainable insurance strategy that was announced more than a year ago. they said they would have it in place by the end of 2024. so here we are, is it in place? they are now allowing insurers when they ask for rates to factor in what the insurer will pay for reinsurance. this is insurance like if a catastrophe hits a billion dollars that reinsurance would kick in and help cover some of the costs. they're now letting them factor in computer modeling for catastrophes rather than just historic nature of storms which was a big shift. finally, they say look, what we need you to do is need you to come in and guarantee you're

going to cover some of these high-risk fireplaces because as it stands now, the insurer of last resort, chris, was getting inundated with new policies and there was a risk there wouldn't be enough money to go around. >> contessa brewer, thank you so much. coming up, first the country waged war on polio with a vaccine that changed the world. but could that vaccine survive an rfk agenda? but first, one of civilization's oldest games has its youngest champion ever. the new world chess champion, 18 years old. he is from india. his name is gukesh. he beat the reigning champ in singapore, won $2.5 million in the process as well as a place in the history books. this isn't the first time he's gotten international acclaim. he's a prodigy, once the second youngest grand master ever when he was just 12 years old. your t with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪

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