sorts to talk object her distinguished 25 year tenure on congress. follow us using the handle at weekend capeheart. and catch clips of the show on youtube. keep it here, ayman mohyeldin is next. >> reporter: good evening, tonight, kash patel potentially heading the fbi sparks fears of j. edgar hoover's reign over the department. how worried should americans be? trump wants to wipe out his hush money conviction but the manhattan district attorney says not so fast. and shocking discoveries from assad's prisons reveal the true horrors in syria.

i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. only one thing potentially stood in the way of kash patel. christopher wray still had multiple years left on his ten year term. while trump could fire wray just like he did comey, wray's presence with questions about patel making it through a tough confirmation hearing presented a possible alternative. he told his staff he would resign at the end of biden's term in january. we are now one step closer to patel and his self-described enemies list running america's principle american law enforcement agency and domestic intelligence service.

now, if you weren't concerned already, then this is when you really should start to pay attention. especially at patel's enemy's list in addition to his clear lack of qualifications and you should worry. because history has shown how dangerous it is when the power of the fbi is misused. that history starts with this guy. j. edgar hoover. the man whose name actually aborns fbi headquarters. and who built the bureau in his image. who led the fbi 48 years and maybe be the most influential unelected bureaucrat in american history. he served under four democrats and four republican presidents he was very ideological conservative and as he grew, the bureau and its powers began to use it for devious means. he used it as a weapon against the civil rights unit.

fbi records have been uncovered that reveal their plans to expose, miscorrect, discredit or neutralize individuals and organizations involved in the fight for black rights. and others, too, anti-war groups, environmental activists and many elements of the american life. for decades after hoover's death in 1972, it was liberals who had deep antipathy for the fbi. and rightfully so. the bureau had abused its power and gone to war with the left. yet all these years later it is the maga right that has gone to war with the fbi because of the delusion that the department is some sort of left wing organization because they have occasionally caught donald trump committing crimes. it is complete nonsense. hoover established it as an organization hellbent on attacking the american left and since then the leadership has been dominated by republicans. that's because when republicans are in the white house, they

choose republicans to lead the fbi and when democrats are in the white house, well, they also choose republicans to lead the fbi. in the aftermath of the watergate scandal, jimmy carter led william h. webster to lead it. democrat bill clinton named republican lewis free. democrat barack obama extended the term of one republican fbi head robert muller and replaced him with another republican, james comey who had served as deputy attorney general in george w. bush's administration. so this maga maying believe story that the fbi is somehow a lefty woke commie conspiracy organization is delusional. both liberals and conservatives should want an independent justice department. so it is important to state this very clearly. that is not who kash patel is nor what he is promising to do. he is promising to turn the

bureau into what he accuses it of. he claims the fbi is a partisan political organization that goes after its enemies. when a lawless president like richard nixon is backing him. they did great damage to this country. we should take them at their word, what they are going to do. kicking us off tonight, barbara mcquaid, former u.s. attorney and law professor at law school. former deputy attorney general. host of the talking fed's

podcast. barbara, some people are upset with christopher wray making this announcement thinking it is a sign of obeying in advance making kash patel's path to the nomination a little easier. saying we have to get someone in there quickly since wray is stepping down at the end of biden's term. is that a fair criticism? >> i think that christopher wray said, i take him at his word when he said he spent many weeks discussing this issue and the reason he is stepping down is to prevent the fbi from being further dragged into the fray. i'm sure he believes he is doing the right thing for the rank and file fbi agents but to me, this is a breach of norms. they serve a ten year term in part to insulate him from the

political process so he can exceed even a two-term president. so by resigning i know he will get fired on day one but it seems maybe we should make donald trump do that so it is trump who is violating the norms rather than christopher wray going quietly. >> what do you think? it seems like a no win situation. but having trump fire wray sends a very different message for most americans who may not nest necessarily be hearing about his resignation. >> at least he purported to find reasons. this time not even. i think barb has it exactly. i agree with everything that she said. i'll just add that you are talking about norms eroding. maybe the most important is this one that was set up post water gate. and post abuses of hoover to

say ten years. that means that any given fbi director will be independent. i think it is pretty much gone now. possibly not to be restored, possibly not. >> it highlights how the fbi has adopted the position that trump has created the past eight years or so since he has been on the political scene. and, patel fits perfectly in that trump narrative. he says he wants to shut down the fbi hoover building. reopen it as a museum to the deep state. he has accused the fbi of manufacturing crimes.

he has publicized his enemies list. and you know, i went through some of the history of the bureau and how it is anything but a liberal or progressive institution. but how did this narrative of the gop turn on the fbi so quickly? >> ayman, it is completely false. it is complete nonsense. i worked closely with members of the fbi for 20 years and people so deeply partisan cannot understand the concept of nonpartisan. the fbi is nonpartisan. even j. edgar hoover through all of his abuses tried to keep it non-partisan. he had his views about things. he equates in his book the deep state and democrats. we are talking william barr is someone he accuses of being part of the deep state. here's a secret. there is no deep state.

you have career professionals making sure process is done fairly without fear or favor of either side. so my concern is that donald trump has spun this narrative and there are those who believe it or others who are willing to go along with the con because they are too afraid to pay the political cost of taking on donald trump. >> harry fox is reporting on the conservative group called the american accountability foundation sending a letter, trump's attorney general for now nominee pam bondi calling on her to fire a number of department of justice workers who say it says are woke radical leftists and donors who cannot be trusted to carry out trump's agenda. how did this idea, that law enforcement is somehow woke come into being and where did that start? is this a sign of the coming purge that we can expect? >> you are talking about a guy

in patel saying the agency he would lead poses an existential threat to our republican form of government. so yes. there's been deep drinking of coolaid that says it all traces back to whoever has helped prosecute donald trump for can we just say it again, very legitimate charges and that's where all of this comes from and leads to so at the end of the darks it is either true or false. it is just false. just close your eyes and take the united states out of that equation. this is what you heard. the person who thinks they are the deep state. and the list of neighbors you should purge from the justice department. this is not the thing that happen ins the doj or democratic state. normally. >> stick around. we have a lot more to discuss.

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some breaking new to share with you this hour. abc news has agreed to give $15 million toward trump's future presidential foundation in museum to settle a defamation lawsuit over anchor george stephanopoulos' inaccurate statements on air that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer e. jean carroll. will pay one million dollars in legal fees to trump's lawyer. in a statement, abc said they are pleased to have reached an agreement. that is not the only legal

headline involving trump tonight. there is still a legal question on the 34 felony counts after his sentencing was postponed. the manhattan da alvin bragg laid out an array of options for preserving the indictment. barbara and harry are back with me. barbara, i'll start with your take on the defamation lawsuit. in this case, it is safe to say this is considered a win for trump against abc. why? >> i'm sure donald trump and others will spin it as a victory that he has defeated them and i worry about the chilling effect it could have on others. but if you look at the language of what he said. he was referring to what the

judge said. does not mean that mr. trump raped her as many people commonly understand the word rape. as the evidence at trial recounted, the jury found that mr. trump in fact did exactly that. so it seems to me that with that language, abc had a strong case. but chose to settle. a settlement is not an admission of liability. it is an agreement to end the matter in the best interest of both parties. but they are agreeing to issue this statement of regret which is not exactly an apology. but i worry about the effect this could have on others and the chilling effect it would have on others critical of donald trump. >> you are not an abc executive, but why in the world, bash are just laid it out perfectly from a legal point of view.

in terms of what the judge's exact quote is. most legal experts who have opined about this believe abc would have won this. they have a legal case to stand on. give me your thoughts on why they might have done something like this. >> to prove defamation, you have to prove that stephanopoulos said something that was false and he knew it was false. one juror was not sure about useing the word rape. but the judge affirmed this is what they found. so yes. i think they had a strong case. i'll say this with no basis whatsoever. but given the strength of the law. the fact they were going to be deposing trump in a few days. he can be so erratic.

i got to think that the abc boardroom was involveed in this decision somehow. and my big worry to put a finer point on what barb is saying is it is shaw caught up in the fact he will be president soon. he will go after media. we know some newspapers have been cowed. so how the boardroom affected the legal room here, i hope we will learn. but given the timing, he is on a roll and a roll that is really unsettling in terms of public confidence and media confidence. and who is left to tell the truth that he will come after them, make their lives miserable and it has been successful so far. >> i want to pivot from the filing of the da attorney alvin bragg and he discussed all the ways judge juan merchan would

approach the case. he said he could sentence trump before inauguration and pick up further proceedings when he leaves office or trump's sentencing could be put off until after the presidency and merchan should evoke the abatement doctrine. in this case, it could be used to terminate proceedings without dismissing the indictment. what is your take on these arguments and particularly this last one? the abatement? >> well, this case is in a posture that has never happened before in the history of the criminal justice system. so alvin bragg is offering the judge some options. you can sentence donald trump right now. sentence him to a big fine and we'll be done with it. or we could just put the case on ice. he was voted president. he wasn't voted get out of jail free and we can pause the case and pick it up where we left off in four years or there is a third option.

it is what happened when a defendant dies but a fur found this person guilty. that will be fine. but he does not deserve a clean slate. what we should do is acknowledge the fact he was going to be convicted. donald trump says how dare they argue i'm dead to try to stir up a lot of controversy. they are not saying you are dead, this is just a legal tool that gets used when a defendant dies. >> trump's lawyers denounced the abatement proposal. as if it was asking if one of the assassination attempts had been successful. that it is a quote dark dream scenario. what do you make of the trump

team's portrayal of it? is that accurate? >> that is a ploy to the public and not the judge. it won't do anything except potentially inflame him. look, this is about trump is trying to say he is already president and all these things that kick in what bragg recognizes are there. but he is not, we have one president at a time. it strikes me there is nothing about trump's election that should mean the whole history gets wiped off the books as he really wants. he seems almost obsessive about going back even to the 2020 election. so the notion that the system takes stock. it seems not just sensible. but fair, otherwise, again, a move from authoritarian playbook of just erasing the pages of history. this happened and it matters. >> do you expect merchan to do

something here? he has already postponed the sentencing indefinitely. so is this even a relevant conversation? >> i think so. he has shown himself to be thoughtful. he finds himself in a situation that no judge has ever faced before. and he is not trying to stick it to trump, he is trying to get it right. i think he will pick one of these choices and do it. >> thank you both for joining us. greatly appreciate it as always. next up, the horrors of assad's prisons in syria were once just stories. now, we have an inside look at the brutal reality and the victims who endured it. and next hour, my panel react to plans by maga loyalists to stifle criticism of donald trump so much for being the party of free speech.

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before assad left power, the international community knew a few things about how brutal his prisons were because of the activist back in 2011 when the arab spring started he was an engineer when protests reached his city, he like others joined them. hehe thought he might be safer too. and just within a year of that revolution started he said simple things like food, water, and baby formula were harder to

access. from that moment on, he was moved from prison to prison, tortured and sexually abused. he was forced to confess to crimes he never committed by being a terrorist, and killing assad's soldiers. this was all he was forced to experience just for filming protests and trying to get baby formula to someone. he shared the gruesome details of his torture in a news documentary. we want to warn you it is not easy to watch.

>> what he spoke of was degrading and a clear violation of human rights. amnesty international reported that prison forwards administer electric shocks, poured boiling water on them. he spent years as a refugee in europe. he dedicated his time to activism telling people what he and others had gone through. but in 2020, he made the unexpected decision to return to syria. many question that choice. he wanted to make a difference on the ground. he finalized his decision after being assured by assad's authorities that he would be safe. that of course was a lie.

he disappeared right away after arriving back in syria with no information about his where abouts. it was not the news most hoped for. his family like so many others ended their search in heartbreak. his body was found in a hospital morgue near damascus. photos analyzed by independent observers suggest he was likely killed before rebels began frees prisoners. nbc news has not verified the circumstances around his death. his story is one of thousands of those missing in syria. they are trying to figure out if their loved ones are alive and dead. people are scouring, scattered documents outside of prisons and hospitals. desperate for any clue about their family members and friends. one woman told nbc news that

her son has been missing for a decades. a large iron device. you can imagine for yourself what happens when it is put to use. in another room, a large metal pole stretching from one wall to the other where prisoners would be handcuffed and beaten. nooses, one covered in blood that he said were used to hang prisoners. it is devastating to see this, these hard truths are deserve today the syrian people. they are trying to heal from everything they have been through, now they are dealing with something else.

since assad's fall, israel has not only been escalating air strikes in the golan heights but also beyond that in areas closer to damascus and syria's ports. israeli forces claim to be parting facilities that might pose a threat to them one day. over the past few days the international communities are wondering how will syrian's new leaders respond? today we got a glimpse. the country's de facto leader called israel's justifications for the strikes weak. he added syria is too exhausted for another war right now. syria is not likely to engage directly but israeli forces will stay in this illegally seized territory. they will figure out what is next for their country. since this started critics warned israel would use this to their advantages. we'll be right back. their advantages. we'll be right back. but here i am... ...being me. keep being you...

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what do you make of those comments? do you think the statement would change anything israel does or perhaps western pressure to stop what israel is doing? >> thanks for having me. it is really an important question. but it is, i think he is doing everything he can to be as pragmatic as he can given the circumstances. but i think everybody on the ground knows of all of the potential risks of triggering, you know, renewed conflict and hostilities, israel's recent actions in terms of its air strikes and a land grab along the heights, does have a real risk of doing that. it has been encouraging. he is sending the right signals that he doesn't and syrians don't want to find themselves engaged in hostilities but yes, there are more israeli air

strikes happening almost as we speak tonight. so you know, that nail keeps getting hammered and the patience can only last so long. so we need to hope deescalation happens. i know the biden administration is doing what it can. >> in terms of the pragmatic comments, he made some comments today about the right to return for some communities. he told a correspondent that kurds will be allow today come home. did this feel genuine to you? what do you think making that statement means in regards to how the transitional process is going right now? is it again still too early to talk about the minority communities who have been nervous about his rise in power? >> as you say, the minority communities are those who are

most concerned about who the future holds and who is holding the reins of power in damascus right now. a lot of what we have been hearing from him is specifically directed at trying to assuage those concerns. you talk about what do we really make of some of these comments. the comments on the kurdish issue and the potential of return, sending all of the right signals. it is hard to imagine how exactly that return happens. tens of thousands if not more than that of syrian sunnis, most of whom were refugees of turkey were given the homes of the kurdish citizens and given the guarantee they hold the ownership of those properties so how you reverse that will be an enormous challenge.

it will not be up to any transitional group but up to turkey. >> has the current government charted a transitional process of what might happen over the next three to six months? what is the end goal if you will and what is their plan to get to that end goal? i know now we are kind of preoccupied with the immediate security and safety and stability of that country, but what happens to the medium to long term? >> everyone is asking that question inside and outside of syria. we have seen a flurry of diplomatic activity in the region focused squarely on this issue. what is it actually doing now, what will it represent three months from now? that is the date set in damascus, march, 2025, what

they are calling syria's new government. so until then we have this kind of transitional entity which is basely run entirely by this group and its semidemocrattic governing entity that was running the governing of north western syria until the last few weeks so they have really taken all the power into their hands and there is some concern about what that represents and a lot, as they say, a lot of energy now focused from outside of syria by all of the major governments trying to make sure that whatever this transitional entity looks like in three months is much more than just this group hts. >> we saw a little experience, but iraq in 2003, and everyone trying to meddle in their affairs coopting various groups to their side led to a civil war. give me the sense of what you think the region looks like. who are the enemies of syria in the region that may be meddling

in its affairs? some of the arab governments in the region compared. >> we have until the last several weeks. this is the strange 180 the grow shift we have seen that most of the middle east governments that the best chance of stabilizing syria was by strengthening the regime. all of that has been turned on its it's head. all that now works in hgs's favor. i guess to an extent it works in the transition we are seeing played out. but there is a risk. that what happened in iraq, happened in the very beginning of the syrian uprising where all of these governments plowed

resources into their favored partners and proxies and actually rather than trying to help sowed to many divisions within it, it took a very long time for us to see the unity of cause across syria's revolution and there is a danger we might be at the beginning phase of that. but with some american and european encouragement and the united nations, let's hope that we don't see those kinds of divisions instilled all over again. >> charles, it's a great pleasure, you have become one of the most important voices on syria out there. we look forward to talking to in the weeks and months ahead. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. next up, the new report about a little known gop ally who is playing a big role in undermining lgbtq rights. g lgb ♪ (vo) living with your albuterol asthma rescue inhaler? it's a bit of a dinosaur. albuterol only treats your symptoms, not inflammation— a cause of asthma attacks. treating symptoms and inflammation with rescue

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donald trump and his allies ran the most anti-trans campaign we have ever seen. they spent $215 million on network tv ads falsely painting trans people as a national threat. trump made it a central point of his closing message vowing to get transgender insanity the hell out of our schools. his words, not mine. he told too many magazine i don't want to get into the bathroom issue because it is a small number we are talking about and it has ripped apart our country. the problem is that trump appears to be on one of the only republicans backing off the issue. just this week, house republicans with the help of 81 democrats passed a massive defense bill with a ban on gender affirming care for transgender kids. behind the scenes republicans now have a key ally in targeting lgbtq rights as

reported by unclosetted media. her name is kristin wagner. a legal power house in the christian landscape. now president of the anti-lgbtq group alliance for defending freedom is known for her role in dobbs versus jackson. and the overturning of roe v. wade. there is speculation trump could consider her for the supreme court should there be a vacancy in his final term. we have spencer mcnauton, spencer good to have you back on the show. what about her record has you most worried? >> thank you for having me. and a lot has me worried about her record. she is the ceo and president of the alliance defending freedom which you mentioned in your opening monologue is a southern

poverty law center designated anti-lgbtq hate group. and this is a group that was founded in 1994 by alan sears who cowrote a book called the homosexual agenda. they have advocated in favor of conversion therapy against gay marriage and against literally anything to do with transgender rights. they have voiced support for or testified in favor of many of the hundreds of anti-lgbtq bills sweeping through state legislatures and the thing about wagoner is she actually gets things done. right? she argued three winning cases in the supreme court and has been council of record the past ten years and she has made her mark winning her case in masterpiece. she has her fingerprints all over anything anti-lgbtq and i

think it is worth noting that speaker of the house mike johnson worked at the alliance defending freedom many years as a lawyer as well. >> i want to get your reaction to trump not wanting to get into the trans bathroom issue in that time interview saying it is a very small number of people we are talking about. again, this is the same trump who just ran the most anti- trans campaign we have ever seen. >> we did a whole analysis, looking at why the gop spent i believe over 200 million- dollars on anti-trans adds. it is worth knowing that he spent five times more on anti- trans ads than ads focused on the economy. americans were given a poll to rank the 27 issues they cared most about. trans issued ranked dead last. so they weapon sized the most vulnerable community in america

right now, transgender people, spewed hate them and now he is trying to cover it up and say oh, we don't want to go there. that is disgusting. this is mud slinging. give me a break. >> this goes beyond trump and wagnerment we mentioned earlier, house republicans passed the defense bill this week that included a ban on gender affirms care for transgender kids. now, you got to say this is not surprising coming from these republicans but you had 81 house democrats join in on passing this bill with anti- trans provisions given republicans will feel emboldened. how concerned are you for lgbtq rights when they are already passing bills like this now? some democrats coming out and saying oh, you know, the left was focused too much on trans issues. that is why kamala harris lost

the election. >> there is infighting among democrats on trans issues and it is true. they didn't have clear message on trans issues and i think there is room to have some nuance. when it comes to gender affirming health care, i implore any of the lawmakers to please talk with trans kids. in my reporting the last ten years i have met kids across the country. dylan, matthew, luna. these kids really, really need this health care. right? the complexities and the nuances are clearment but the kids i have met and i have spoken to dozens more really need this to feel well. to feel healthy. this is about children feeling healthy. right? so to democrats and

republicans, before making these critical decision, i just really hope they will meet with, talk with transgender kids and their families before taking away something that so many of them genuinely and authentically feel is life saving for them. >> let me ask you quickly how unclosetted media plans to respond to this incoming administration. i know everyone is preparing for it but i'm just curious to get your thoughts on how you plan on covering trump. >> yeah. thank you for asking that. i mean, we plan on covering trump just like we investigate any other person, piece of power, piece of legislation or amount of money that is important to take a look at. we define balance not along partisan lines. balance is not a republican sound byte and a democrat sound byte divided by two. it is following the facts with methodology research. so we will get the receipts,

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