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against former congresswoman liz chaney and why house republicans say she should face a criminal investigation. plus, grief and a search for answers after the school shooting in wisconsin. we are on the ground as police hunt for a motive. and later, fly me to the moon. just make sure you fly me back. why two astronauts face another delay in their return to earth. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 pacific. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with dramatic developments in the case against the accused killer of united healthcare ceo. luigi mangione, now not expected to fight extradition in a critical hearing less than 24 hours from now following a sweeping new indictment and new, more serious charges, handed down by a grand jury in new york. the manhattan district attorney's office indicting him on first-degree murder and two counts of second-degree murder
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including charges involving an act of terrorism. for more on this nbc news correspondent antonia hylton is live for us in hollidaysburg, mary ellen o'toole and analyst danny cevalos. what comes next for mangione following this indictment late yesterday here in new york? >> reporter: good morning. what comes next is a set of hearings here in pennsylvania tomorrow morning. the first about his state charges and then right after that will roll into a second hearing that is all about extradition. as you mentioned, we now are hearing from his team, a source that has spoken to nbc news, that he expects to stop this fight. what we learned from d.a. alvin bragg in their presser, essentially as soon as new york authorities have the ability to take him from pennsylvania to
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new york, that's what they plan to do. they walked the public through these 11 counts including the charge of first-degree murder and the elements are terrorism. listen to jessica tisch speaking at that presser. >> we don't celebrate murderers and we don't lionize the killing of anyone and any attempt to rationalize this is vile to our principles of justice. >> reporter: in addition to laying out the counts here and the actions of luigi mangione, the alleged actions, they also are telling a cultural and sort of contextual communal story about this case here and that's why the terrorism charges are part of this they're going to paint a picture of him establishing not just
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premeditation in first-degree murder but wanted to incite a movement, copycat violence, the potential change of policy in the united states, and that was all a critical part of this story and this case, too. and i will note later this afternoon in separate unrelated press conferences we expect to hear from kathy hochul and the nypd commissioner. no doubt reporters will ask questions about luigi mangione and what we expect to happen tomorrow at the end of his extradition hearing, ana. >> thank you, antonia, for that reporting. dan, mangione is charged with first-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism, two counts of second-degree murder including killing as an act of terrorism. talk to us more about these charges, explain them, if you will, honing in on that terrorism component. what has to be proven? >> when mangione was only going to be charged with second-degree murder there was a lot of criticism, hey, this seems like
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a who horrific murder. why isn't it first degree? all are second-degree murder. you see he was charged and is charged with second-degree murder. only specific statutory factual situations will qualify for murder in the first degree. examples, killing a police officer, murder for hire. there's only one subsection that could possibly apply here and it's the terrorism enhancement. it's part of new york's anti-terrorism law enacted just days after the 9/11 attacks in 2001, and what that does is it does aggravate in situations where a killing is committed as an act of terror, and even though this may seem like a pretty easy application, at least according to cases in new york including the state's highest court, the court of appeals, it's not entirely clear, always, what is an act of terror intended to intimidate a civilian population. >> mary ellen, how do you see the alleged terrorism component here? does it fit the crime?
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>> it does to me. to look at it, flipping it around, it could be something that uigi sort of embraces because it puts him in a different status, and i remember working on the unabomber case, we talked about his crimes being crimes of terrorism and that he was a terrorist. so now he's on the same level of someone that we know he researched and admired. so looking at it from his perspective, this may be something that he will actually embrace. >> danny, antonia mentioned these back-to-back hearings tomorrow in pennsylvania including an extradition hearing and a source familiar with the situation telling nbc news mangione, his team, doesn't plan to fight that. so how soon, how quickly could this move? >> i've been saying this for several days now that just because mangione initially through his pennsylvania lawyer said they would challenge extradition, that decision may
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change, it is a constitutional requirement. mangione is going back to new york. can you fight it, maybe extend it a couple weeks, maybe a month, but, at the end of the day, he will go back to new york. so i wouldn't be surprised if they withdrew their challenge to extradition. and then meanwhile, in pennsylvania his case is supposed to continue. he's charged with forgery and firearms. that will continue. in practice it will be delayed while they send him back to new york to face charges here. a last comment on the terrorism. although many folks say this seems like an easy application of terrorism, putting on my defense hat, the argument can be made every violent crime intimidates a population and if it's meant to intimidate a civilian population maybe the defense would argue, no, no, no, mangione thought he was striking out to help those victimized by health insurance companies. i'm just playing defense, playing the role here. but that might be one of two different challenges they make to this charge.
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>> i mean, we have seen all the reaction online, in particular people cheering what happened, which has been mind-boggling, mary ellen, and the words from commissioner tisch yesterday, we don't celebrate murders. celebrate the profile of mangione that's now unraveling in this investigation compared to this figure that has been vaulted or lionized by parts of the public. >> it is astounding to see how people have made him into like a kind of a robinhood, somebody that did something that's really good. that's very concerning to me. i think as the investigation goes on and they look for indicators of violent behavior in his past and if there and they come out people will start to pull away from that.
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one of the chilling comments, his mother didn't recognize the photo but she could see him possibly doing something like that, or words to that effect. i thought if your own mother thinks you could do that, then did those indicators come up in other relationships? it is counter indication he could act out in a violent way but he could have personality traits that could predict to this and they could have been present in high school and in college and in his work life. >> what did you make about him going dark or silent off the grid? no one could seem to find him for several months. we learned his family filed a missing person's report in november, and now finding out his mom had not spoken out to
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him since july and reached out to try to find out more. how does that fit into the puzzle pieces here? >> we know he did it and so there are reasons for why he did it, and it may have been to further his planning and it also could have been the fact that he was kind of shunned by people he was living with. it didn't look like he had his job after 2022, and it looked like he was more of a drifter. so there could have been problems that he was wanting to get away from which would have been the motivation behind his leaving other people, particularly leaving behind his family. it may not have been just to experience life or see what life was like in japan. there could have been more nefarious reasons he pulled away. >> d.a. bragg did talk about mangione's alleged use of a
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ghost gun with a silencer. here is that. watch. >> i want to say a word about ghost guns. these weapons are ingly proliferating throughout new york city and the entire country involving technology will only make this problem worse. this case tragically makes clear they are just as deadly as traditional firearms. this will remain a priority for us in manhattan. >> mangione has been indicted with one count of criminal possession of forged instrument, depending on where they trace he got the gun back to, could we see even more charges? >> potentially. you have charges in pennsylvania, which doesn't have a specific ghost gun statute but it is a firearm without a serial number, one of the chief complaints about it and that kind of thing was outlawed even before 3d printers were around. i'm old enough to remember when it was a matter of getting
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different receivers and putting the parts togetherage, voila, you have a printed ghost gun. it doesn't have the serial number and there are statutes that criminalize that. could there be potential firearms charges? maybe. none of them jump out as obvious right away but certainly federal criminal statutes and there are a lot of federal criminal statutes that could apply to this possession. if they want to take an interest from a firearms perspective. additional charges but in reality, there are enough on the firearms charges both in pennsylvania and new york that cover everything, even though there are different statutes. pennsylvania not so much but they have the unserialized and other charges that could be brought. >> there are many layers to the charges he is facing. danny cevallos, mary ellen o'toole, thank you. if you don't succeed, try, try again. the latest effort by trump's
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legal team to sink his hush money conviction. also, what the president-elect is signaling on social media about liz chaney. plus, new reporting on the wife of trump's pentagon pick, pete hegseth, accused of retaliation tied to sexual harassment allegations at fox news. and the astronomical headache for two nasa astronauts who are seeing their return trip delayed again. we're back in 90 seconds. ♪ upbeat music ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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welcome back. house republicans have wrapped up their own investigation tied to the january 6th capitol attack. the big takeaway is the person who should face a criminal reckoning, they say, is former republican congresswoman liz chaney. in their 128-page report, gop lawmakers call for a criminal investigation into chaney and accuse her of witness tampering on the january 6 committee. chaney has wrote that the report, quote, intentionally disregards the truth and the select committee's tremendous weight of evidence that instead fabricates lies and defamatory allegations in an attempt to cover up what donald trump did. she adds, quote, no reputable lawyer, or or judge would take this seriously. joining us now correspondent vaughn hillyard tracking the trump transition from florida and msnbc legal correspondent
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lisa reuben. vaughn, it seems odd to me that just liz chaney is singled out in this report. do we know in trump and his team have been in contact with republicans about this investigation and final report? >> reporter: this report with loudermilk who put together this report, they are close allies and loudermilk has been on the front lines of calling into question the january 6th select committee's existence and the evidence that it put forward in its final report and has been on the front lines of suggesting that some of the records were illegally destroyed, were his words. there's a lot of layers to this. of course liz chaney has consistently contended she did not interfere or was responsible in any way for cassidy hutchinson leaving her counsel
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and replacing her counsel and that as a member of congress it was her prerogative of that committee of which other republicans chose not to be a part of to ultimately discard or not archive the materials and notes that ultimately were not imperative to the public report that was ultimately disseminated and put out. loudermilk in this report here is suggesting that she should be criminally investigated, and donald trump overnight in a social media post at 3:30 in the morning, suggesting she has potentially committed federal crimes and should be wholly investigated by the next fbi. >> lisa, can a member of congress be criminally investigated for, in essence, doing part of their job, oversight? >> ana, they shouldn't be, and the speech and debate clause in the constitution is intended to immunize members of congress in carrying out their official responsibilities, whether that means making a speech on the
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floor of the house of representatives or even doing things pursuant to their duties as a member, as liz chaney was doing here by carrying out the select committee's work. the trouble here is the way in which this subcommittee has premised what her alleged violation is as witness tampering or intimidation and their allegation is that liz chaney sort of went outside her duties of investigation to talk to cassidy hutchinson, persuade her to dump her then lawyer and even suggested to her who should represent her. there are also some allegations that liz chaney may have conspired with cassidy hutchinson to manufacture testimony about what happened in that limousine when trump wanted to go to the capitol from the ellipse and stead was forced by the secret service and others to return to the white house. they're arguing, those who are
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liz chaney detractors, what she was doing was wholly outside the boundaries of her duties as a member of congress. you can expect liz chaney, if and when she is officially investigated, if not prosecuted, to push back strongly on that given those constitutional protections, ana. >> vaughn, what could this mean for the push for kash patel and pam bondi? they may be asked point blank, will you follow the house gop recommendation to open a criminal probe into liz chaney or other trump political rivals? how will they answer? >> reporter: and this is no longer just campaign fodder, of going after his perceived political enemies or one-off comment. two weeks ago he told our kristen welker that liz chaney and members of the january 6 select committee should be jailed and now in this 3:30 a.m. post calling for her to be investigated. for pam bondi, the ag pick, and kash patel, they are going to get pointed questions whether they intend to follow donald
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trump's wishes and investigate both members. this is why both pam bondi and ka kash patel have said about their roles. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted. >> we will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government but in the media. yes, we're going to come after the people in the media who lied about american citizens who helped joe biden rig elections. we're putting you all on notice. >> reporter: donald trump is more than a month away from his inauguration yet is making it clear from the outset of this transition that he intends to go pursue investigations and lawsuits against media organizations and his perceived enemies, ana. >> let's turn to pete hegseth, who will have more meetings with senators. lisa, you have new reporting. his wife has been by his side for the bulk of these capitol hill visits. her alleged involvement in a sexual harassment lawsuit at fox news is coming to light.
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what are you learning? >> ana, as you noted, jennifer hegseth has been with her husband, holding his hand and attending meetings with various senators on the hill. there was a lawsuit brought by a former fox nation host, brit mchenry, against her co-host she says was sexually harassing her and she sued not only that co-host but fox news as well as others who she said aided and abetted that gender discrimination. the case got a lot of attention at the time. people weren't focused on one of the other people that mchenry sued, her then executive producer, jennifer hegseth. the case settled in july of 2021. fox news said that it was pleased to have put the matter behind it. britt mchenry left fox news and fox nation. what i think is interesting is jennifer hegseth clearly seems to be intended to be a character witness for her husband who has faced serious sexual misconduct
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allegations of his own, but i think it's newsworthy that she, herself, has been accused of aiding and abetting somebody else's sexual harassment and retaliation at a place where they both work for some period of time, ana. >> lisa rubin, thank you for that reporting. vaughn, stay close. more legal involvement with donald trump. they are trying to get a case thrown out. trump's attorneys claim they have learned of, quote, grave juror misconduct. a heavily real dacted letter wa released leaving the misconduct unclear. the new york district attorney's office calls the allegations vague and the source of these allegations said the trump team's letter contains inaccuracies. joining us now defense attorney misty maris. good to have you here. we don't know the specifics of the alleged misconduct but just generally speaking is juror
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misconduct enough to get a conviction thrown out? what is that threshold? >> yes, ana. juror misconduct is very, very serious in new york and it can be anything from extraneous information that's prejudicial coming into the courtroom or could be as severe as coercion or something of that nature. and if that issue is material to something in the case, then it can overturn a conviction. however, the criminal procedure law is very clear. evidence of jury misconduct cannot be speculative. it cannot be hear say. there has to be tangible evidence for the judge to take the next step and have a hearing and investigate. here, while we don't know the details, from what we're seeing the prosecutor's response, judge marshawn's comments, it doesn't appear there's that tangible evidence that exists. >> trump's lawyers are saying that these allegations came to light after a juror reached out to them. how unusual is that? >> there's always an investigation from a defense
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perspective to the extent that evidence arises of potential misconduct. of course in your due diligence as a defense attorney you're going to look into that. if a juror reaches out and says, often what we see especially in today's media era, is that something from outside the courtroom media wise came in, text messages, social media posts, all very objective, right, whether or not it exists. so a juror reaching out, certainly a defense attorney would investigate that, but it doesn't seem like this particular instance didn't get to the point of executing an affidavit or a sworn statement by the juror that would serve as the basis for this type of application. >> yeah, in fact, at this point there is no sworn statement is what the d.a. is saying and the judge, judge merchan, allegations of juror misconduct should be thoroughly investigated. however, this court is prohibited from deciding such
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claims on the basis of conjecture. maybe he would have to take action, so what does that mean? what's next? >> if trump were to move on those grounds of motion to dismiss, there would have to be a statement by this juror. what we know now is prosecutors have said that the juror has told them the individual contests what the trump team has put in that letter. so what would be in a sworn statement would dictate how the case moves forward. that does not exist at this point and that's why you hear judge merchan saying he can't move forward with any sort of evidentiary hearing. it would have to be supported by an affidavit or some type of sworn testimony. >> evidence. that is the key in all cases! thank you very much, misty maris. it's good to see you here. >> thank you. breaking news out of the sunshine state. the florida attorney general now announcing felony state charges
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against ryan routh, attempting to assassinate donald trump in september. vaughn hillyard is back with us. state charges in addition to the federal case. fill us in. >> reporter: attorney general ashley moody of florida is holding a press conference as we speak and is announcing the state charges of attempted murder on ryan routh. back in september he was seen by secret service on the fence line of trump's international golf course here in west palm beach, as he was a presidential candidate at that point in time, was approaching the hole in which ryan routh was awaiting his presence back in september. the department of justice filed federal charges, an indictment against him for attempted assassination, but these are now state charges here in florida that the attorney general is now filing here against ryan routh. that is just a mere two miles from where we are standing here
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not far from mar-a-lago right now. so these are now for ryan routh, the second attempted assassin who is facing state charges in addito the federal charges, ana. >> vaughn hillyard, thanks again for that update. up next, what we're learning about a motive in that tragic wisconsin school shooting. plus, talk about the longest unplanned trip ever. another delay for these two astronauts stuck in space. know how it works. and most importantly, it works for them. i don't have any anxiety about money anymore. i don't have to worry about a mortgage payment every month. it allowed me to live in my home and not have to make payments. if you're 62 or older and own your home, you could access a portion of your equity to improve your lifestyle. a reverse mortgage loan can eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and put tax-free cash in your pocket. it was the best thing i've ever done. really? yes without a doubt.
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in wisconsin investigators are determined to find out why a 15-year-old girl opened fire at her school. as the community remembers the two lives lost in that shooting, a teacher and a student. a vigil held in madison for the students last night, another community shattered with frustration, heartbreak and anger now rippling through. >> i'm tired of going to these
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events. i'm now almost 50 years old, and i've been to 25, 30 of thers since i've been 18 and it keeps happening and happening and happening. >> i mean, our children, our loved ones are stuck in a crossfire. when is it enough? when is it enough? >> nbc's shaquille brewster is joining us from madison, wisconsin. shaq, do investigators have any idea what the motive could have been? >> reporter: ana, when we heard from the chief yesterday he said it was likely the result of a combination of factors. he said in that press conference that they're in this investigation phase of this tragedy, and there are big, outstanding questions not just as connected to the motive but also how about this 15-year-old suspect get access to that handgun in the first place? all that investigation is taking place as the community, this heartbroken community here in madison, is doing what they can to keep the focus on the victims and those who are still hospitalized. ♪♪
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>> reporter: overnight a community in mourning coming together in the wake of tragedy. >> we are heartbroken. >> reporter: it comes as investigators are learning more about the shooter, 15-year-old natalie rupnow, who they say goes by samantha. they're trying to understand why the 15-year-old opened fire monday morning in a study hall classroom at the abundant life christian school killing a teacher and a teenage classmate and wounding six others before turning the gun on herself. >> identifying a motive is our top priority, but, at this time, it appears the motive was a combination of factors. >> reporter: detectives now talking with students, trying to determine if bullying was one of those factors. police also addressing whether any individuals were targeted by the shooter. >> everyone was targeted in this incident, and everyone was put in equal danger. >> reporter: law enforcement
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focusing on how the 15-year-old accessed the handgun used in monday's shooting spending hours interviewing her father and combing through her social media footprint, a document circulating online purportedly from the shooter. >> i'm just scared. >> reporter: amy says she's scared, too, and hesitant to send her 13-year-old daughter, lillian, back to her madison public school nearby. >> the safest place besides her home should be school, and it's not anymore. >> we know a lot of the people involved. >> reporter: james and rebecca smith's 11th grade daughter was down the hall from the shooting. they waited six agonizing hours before they were reunited. >> she didn't say much, but she's not a hugger and she allowed me to hug her at the reunification. >> reporter: families focusing on healing and hoping their children cope. ana, the police chief is clarifying a comment he made the night of the shooting. you'll remember he said that the
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first call to police came from a second grade student at the school behind me. he said that he actually misread the call log and he saw yesterday that it was instead from a second grade teacher at the school. ana, he apologized for making that mistake. >> shaq brewster, thanks for that report. president biden is weighing in on the mysterious drones that have caused confusion and anxiety all over the east coast. now for weeks. >> nothing nefarious but they're checking it all out. there's a lot of drones authorized to be up there. i think one started and everybody wanted to get in on the deal, but we're following this closely. so far no sensitive danger. >> house lawmakers also downplaying the possibility of a threat after a classified briefing with the intelligence committee yesterday. here was pennsylvania's christie
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we are back with some breaking news from capitol hill where the house ethics committee has secretly voted to release its report into the alleged misconduct by former congressman matt gaetz. gaetz withdrew his name from consideration as trump's attorney general pick after a growing firestorm over sexual misconduct including he had sex with a minor. gaetz has denied all allegations. joining us now from the hill, nbc's ryan nobles. so when can we expect to see this report, ryan? >> reporter: we can confirm this report that the house ethics committee did meet and had a secret vote to reverse course and decide to release the ethics report on matt gaetz and the report could be released as soon as the end of this week right before the house gavels out for
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the holiday break. this comes after a pretty lengthy back and forth between democrats and republicans on this panel that came to a flash point around the time matt gaetz was picked as donald trump's nominee to become the next attorney general. it was then where the news was leaked that the ethics report had been close to being finished and the ethics committee was close to releasing the report. gaetz surprised everyone by stepping down from congress by becoming the next attorney general, while there is some precedent it's not normally their practice and they lost the jurisdiction to continue investigating gaetz because he was no longer a member of congress. and then there was also a bit of pressure on republican members to keep the report under wraps while gaetz was going through the confirmation process. it did not take very long in the
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confirmation process for gaetz to realize he did not have the votes in the united states senate and the fact that senators, particularly republican senators, that were going to be participate of this advise and consent role, were insist enter they wanted to see the report before voting on his nomination that gaetz ex ited that process, took himself out of the running. last week the entire house of representatives voted to refer a request to release the report back to the ethics committee as opposed to forcing the ethics committee to replace that report. now we know the ethics committee meets on a weekly basis. they brought this up and voted to release this report. as i said, ana, we do expect it to come out hopefully by the end of this week right before congress leaves for their break. but this is obviously a very highly anticipated report that goes into detail about the past allegations around matt gaetz having to do with sexual
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misconduct, illicit drug use and others and so we will see what's in this report, hopefully, by the end of the week. >> ryan, you talk about precedent. we know the ethics committee is secretive. what changed, the fact they went from a no vote to now voting yes? >>. >> reporter: the short answer to that question, ana, as you rightly point out, this panel so secretive, we do not know what led to the change of heart, but we can look back at the conduct of this committee and at least glean some information about how they worked on this process. it has an equal number of republicans and democrats, they never back down from this investigation into matt gaetz over a significant period of time, multiple years this investigation took place, whether or not republicans were in control of the house or democrats were in control of the house. so we know that the republicans on the panel had a keen interest in getting to the bottom of these accusations against matt gaetz. they put real work into this
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investigation. they wanted to see the report released at some point. this all got flipped on its head when gaetz was named donald trump's pick for attorney general. that forced some of them into a different posture because they didn't want to get in the way of his process of being named attorney general, and that's why we saw this kind of come to a halt, at least a brief halt, and it was further complicated by the fact that he was no longer a member of congress and there were real disagreements whether or not they wanted to extend the precedent of releasing reports on members that were no longer in office. this could open up a whole pan doria's box for future investigations when members leave congress before investigations are wrapped up, could those potential ethics reports be released? and there's also other reports that have been conducted or investigations conducted over the course of the ethic committee's history yet to be released because those members are no longer in congress.
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there were a lot of issues they were dealing with. we don't know what happened during these internal deliberations that finally led to them deciding to have the ethics report released. it certainly came as a surprise because they seemed so resistant to do this the last two tweaks, but they've obviously had a change of heart and it does seem, though we didn't think it was going to happen that we may see the results of this ethics report as soon as this weekend. >> ryan, there's also the new bill to avert a government shutdown. where does that stand? >> reporter: so right now the house of representatives has released the continuing resolution. this is the bill, the vehicle that will be used to keep the government open. it includes $100 billion in new funding for disaster relief. $10 billion in funding for farmers. it includes a provision that would allow the old rfk stadium, where the former washington redskins played football games, the control of that property to be put back in the hands of the city of washington, d.c., to allow them to begin the process to negotiate with the now
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commanders to potentially bring that football team, that nfl team back to washington. we are fast approaching the christmas holiday, ana, and this is very much a christmas tree piece of legislation where the top line is to keep the government open, but there have been a whole lot of add-ons put on it as we get to the end of the year as congress wraps up their business for 2024. >> and so now members are going through the bill, 1,500 pages before they take a vote. we'll see if it gets passed. thank you, ryan nobles. now in just a few hours the federal reserve will announce its final interest rate decision of of the year. the fed is widely expected to cut interest rates for the third time even as inflation has stayed stubbornly higher than the goal of 2%. nbc news senior business correspondent christine romans is joining us now. christine, let me read how cnbc laid out this decision, what to expect today. quote, inflation is stubbornly above target. the economy is growing at about a 3% pace. and the labor market is holding
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strong. put it all together and it sounds like the perfect recipe for the federal reserve to raise interest rates or at least to stay put. that's not what is likely to happen. so why not and what is expected? >> such an interesting moment. what's expected is a quarter point rate cut this would be -- we've had three now. this would be another one here and the last one to end the year. then we think the fed is likely to signal it's not going to keep doing this. it will pause for now because of all those things in that cnbc article mentioned. you have inflation still 2.7%. you have a job market that is cooling but still pretty strong. 3% economic growth. the u.s. is the strongest economy in the developed world, so it's a really strong economy. do you want to be cutting rates in a strong economy? doesn't that fuel inflation? also next year a lot of uncertainty for what the economy will look like. you have tariffs t. the president-elect has promised, tax cuts, deportations,
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deregulation, all of these things are seen as inflationary so you have a fed we're expecting will trim interest rates one more time this year and then likely stand pat. the fed chief, chair powell, will give a press conference later this afternoon. we will be gleaning for any kind of message from the fed about what happens next. >> okay. and then you'll come back and report on what we know. thank you, christine romans. next on "ana cabrera reports," russia detains a suspect. mission delayed again when two astronauts are supposed to return to earth now after their one-week mission turned into a multimonth stay in space. you k. with godaddy websites plus marketing, you can quickly create a website, and ai will customize it for you. get your business out there and get more customers in here. no sweat... for you anyway. create a beautiful website in minutes with godaddy. what causes a curve down there? is it peyronie's disease? will it get worse? how common is it?
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of lieutenant governor -- lieutenant general, i should say, igor kirillov. now the suspect is identified as a 29-year-old uzbekistan citizen accused of working for ukrainian special services to set off the bomb that rocked the streets of moscow. nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons has more from the bomb site. >> reporter: it's pretty extraordinary to be standing here, this is where lieutenant general igor kirillov was assassinated just over 24 hours ago. you can see the power of the explosion, the meant tal, the bricks, some people leaving flowers. they do have a suspect in custody. russian media saying that is a man called akhmad kurbanov
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obtained outside moscow outside reports here in russia and russian media showing a videotape of him apparently confessing saying that has come from russian authorities. of course he is under arrest, under duress, he has, in fact, confessed to what happened here. standing here what a precision operation this was. the general would have walked out of the apartment here and there was a car waiting just in the street, so a very short distance away for this explosion to take place. it was filmed from the back of the car, a car we think was very likely parked around about where that red vehicle is there across the street. according to russian investigators the explosives were attached to a scooter that
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was against the wall and remotely detonated. the video of the explosion, according to russian investigators, was sent back to ukraine and watched in ukraine as this happened. the russians are saying that they are determined to catch everybody responsible. what isn't being said so loudly here is how was it possible for an assassination to take place like this right here in the heart of moscow on a general who is widely thought to be the most senior military official killed, assassinated on russian soil, since the war if ukraine began. >> keir simmons, thank you for that look. next on "ana cabrera reports," elton was right when he sang
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well, for lots of people 2025 feels like it's coming too soon but for the two astronauts stuck in space, it probably feels like light years away. suni williams and butch wilmore's return to earth delayed again until at least the end of march on a mission that was originally supposed to last eight days. they have been up there now for over six months. nbc's sam brock is joining us with the details. sam, why another delay? >> they are navy test pilots. they have done six-month-plus stints before but this was supposed to be an eight to ten day affair now eight to ten months after spacex had to test and process a brand-new spacecraft that is going to be used in this mission.
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what was originally supposed to be a weeklong test flight -- >> welcome aboard the international space station -- >> reporter: has evolved into a months long saga in space. butch wilmore and suni williams lifted off back in june. >> and liftoff of star liner. >> reporter: when the boeing star liner, making its first crude mission had a number of technical issues after docking from helium leaks to faulty thrusters, their return home was delayed. >> nasa has decided that butch and suni will return with crew nine next february. >> reporter: now, a new galactic speedbump in their return to earth. nasa saying in a statement tuesday nasa's spacex crew 10 is targeting no earlier than late march early 2025 adding the change gives nasa and spacex teams to complete processing on a new dragon spacecraft for the mission. that spacecraft set to arrive at a florida facility in early january. can you think of other examples
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of astronauts that had a mission of one to two weeks and that turned into a year or longer? >> no, i can't think to one that went from two weeks to over a year, testing a new vehicle, a star liner. there was that possibility they may extend their mission. >> reporter: a former nasa astronaut who knows both butch and suni. >> i think mentally prepared to do whatever was going to be required of them and they've been doing it. >> reporter: how frequently is the iss restocked? how often do you see supplies going up intermittently? >> every few months. there are two supply ships from the united states. >> reporter: in november concerns surfaced about weight loss. >> there are rumors outside that i'm losing weight and stuff. >> reporter: though they were dismissed by the two space veterans. >> you can tell i've been working out. >> reporter: now the aiting game continues.
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and so whenever they ultimately get back, ana, suni williams did an exclusive interview with lester holt, and he asked her, suni, do you enjoy this extra time in space? astronauts spend time in space. interesting question. yes, i do. we're doing cutting edge research. i love being up here in space. as you mentioned a second ago, they both have families on the ground that are being pulled through the wringer on this waiting for their loved ones to return. >> i'm sure there's some heartache. they have had positive attitudes. got to give it to them. sam brock, thank you. that does it for us this hour. tune in at noon today, my colleague andrea mitchell will interview dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with breaking news

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