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night, lawmakers on both sides voted overwhelmingly against the donald trump back spending bill which came after the president- elect, with some of his key allies, killed the 1500 page bipartisan spending agreement that would have funded the government through march. despite all of this, this morning, mike johnson rejected optimism. >> you stay tuned, we have a plan. >> we have reached a new agreement? >> we will see. >> ryan, less than 13 hours, that clock on the bottom right is exactly right now, 13 hours away from that major deadline, the house first dealt with a 1500 page bill that was shot down and they brought in a 130+ page one which was also shot down. what is next?
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>> they are back at the drawing board and we know that congressional republicans, house republicans in particular , have been huddled all morning in the office of mike johnston with different stakeholders coming in and out all morning long as they tried to come up with a proposal that would get enough votes to pass the house of representatives. the question that we're wondering, how much democrats have been in the process because there can be no legislation that ultimately passes to avoid a government shutdown tonight unless it has at least some level of democratic support. ralph norman, a member of the rules committee, has been a part of these negotiations and signaled there could be a vote on the rule of a new deal as soon as sometime this morning. that is a procedural step that needs to take place before the legislation makes it to the floor of the house. we have no formal notification of that happening yet but it is an indication they are, at least
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republicans, are getting closer to coming up with something they feel comfortable moving to the house for. they tried to take a stab at that last night, they had to do it under suspension, suspension of the rules requiring a two thirds majority but it failed and 38 republicans voted against it. we will have to see what has been done differently to fashion a proposal the speaker believes has enough votes. >> those 38 republican no votes were key in knocking that down. when you listen to speaker johnson and other sources inside capitol hill, there is some belief within the republican group that may be they could do something that whatever the shutdown, but, there is the issue of the democrats, as you said, there is no possibility without some democratic votes, that this could be averted.
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>> there is a scenario where the bill could pass the house with only republican votes. that would be very difficult but it could happen. but when the bill leaves the house, it has to pass the senate and even the republicans won the election, democrats are in control of the senate. listen to what chuck schumer said this morning, forecasting the democratic position as to where they stand in these negotiations. >> if republicans do not work with democrats in a bipartisan way very soon, the government will shut down at midnight. it is time to go back to the original agreement we had just a few days ago. it is time the house votes on our bipartisan cr. if the house but the original agreement on the floor today, it would pass and we could put the threat of a shutdown behind us. >> that demonstrates the chasm between republicans and democrats with democrats suggesting they would go back
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to the original deal, that is a nonstarter with republicans and donald trump, and elon musk, who is a part of these negotiations. it is not clear what the pathway forward is. to be abundantly clear to our viewers at home, the republicans cannot do this without democrats and democrats cannot do this without republicans. if the government avoids a shutdown today is because they came together and came up with a solution that both of them can agree upon. >> ryan nobles, let's see if that is possible. garrett, what is the president- elect saying about this today? ryan was talking about the donald trump circle that has been also very vocal about it. >> that is right, the president- elect essentially is continuing to dig a deeper hole, doubling down on what he told me yesterday and what he has been saying to members of his party, posting twice on truth social overnight and this morning, saying, if there will be a
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shutdown, let it begin under the joe biden administration he was telling me that 24 hours ago he thinks this will not politically damage him, the incoming president, who will not face motors again, he sees this as a low risk situation for him politically. he is continuing to press his argument that the debt ceiling should be either extended, lifted, or done away with entirely and not bill that failed last night, a two year suspension of the debt ceiling, he floated on truth social this morning it could be suspended to 2029 him after his term. he told me yesterday that his preference is, if he got rid of it entirely, a psychological tool that basically does not work. all of these demands do not really fit together as ryan was outlining. democrats are not keen to support any of these debt ceiling proposals which will continue to be a problem. >> the elimination of the debt
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ceiling or a two year moratorium on it came up in the last seconds after the 1500+ page bill failed. why the donald trump focus on this now? >> jose, a lot of competing demands, essentially, this debt ceiling has exposed this feature between ideological purists on capitol hill, fiscal hawks, and maga adherents who will support donald trump report with a large portion of the house freedom caucus and people on the far right who are big supporters of doge and the effort to cut federal spending but some want to be consistent and new not support extending, abolishing as donald trump said yesterday, the debt ceiling because, to do that, they feel like there needs to be structural form that cut down on spending, otherwise, they
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feel like they are cutting a blank check for the federal government, whether done now under joe biden or done next year, they believe there needs to be real fundamental changes and cuts made but donald trump, according to the reporting we had yesterday, had expressed this to mike johnson weeks ago, he wanted to get this done to clear the deck for him to get other priorities settled and prioritize in the new year. mike johnson told donald trump that they did not have the votes and it was a settled matter. obviously, based on what happened yesterday, that issue has not been settled. >> i am wondering, the donald trump-mike johnson relationship , how is that doing and, if there is no johnson, at least functionally, there is no way the government, from the house perspective, can function. >> yes, this is an interesting test of donald trump's
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influence in the house republican conference because you do not just have mike johnson not being able to necessarily relay what the conversations are at mar-a- lago, but you have this group of nearly 40 house republicans who are some of the biggest supporters of donald trump, who have voted against the bill yesterday that donald trump wanted to have seen pass. there is the feeling they cannot quite throw mike johnson under the bus yet because there are few people who want this job, and, out of a lot of these people, he is in a unique position to try to be this go- between, a lot of these competing demands in florida, and what his conference wants. >> those 38 people the republicans who voted against this cr, this latest version are , for the most part, strong donald trump supporters. is there any cost to them for
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voting against a cr the president-elect has been championing? >> potentially, the president has it -- president-elect has suggested they will have primary challenges, but that is a long way off, some of the people on the list are not coming back to congress, most of them are, some have been threatened with primary challenges before, like chip roy, one of the last tea party republicans who is -- would welcome that argument from the right. we will see if that develops but , buckle up, we are getting back into those donald trump new cycles in which 50 things happen in one day, very difficult for me to imagine this vote being the determinative thing in a primary a year and a half from now. >> speaker johnson and vice president-elect vance met with
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the pick to lead the omb. >> he is trusted by the president-elect on issues of the economy, tariffs, thinks he has dealt with before but at, omb, he could have his hands on the switches if there is a government shutdown going on next year. he has not been confirmed yet but he would understand a lot the process behind the scenes, about how the federal government functions, what is necessary, what is not. if he is involved in the conversations, that tells me donald trump world is considering the possibility there will be a shutdown and it could potentially be a lengthy one. >> elon musk's involvement, how do you see elon musk and the doge committee changing how washington functions, or does not function? >> i do see elon musk as trump's right-hand man and an amplifier of a lot of the talking points on the
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conversations happening at mar- a-lago he is someone who has hardly left the president's side, they see each other in the same vein with very aligned priorities and elon musk has been helpful in communicating that point of view of donald trump. there were a number of tweets, 150 tweets starting early thursday morning throughout the day that ultimately pushed something -- issues already brewing below the surface among house republicans who were not happy with the bill which was crafted. but elon musk successfully fomented and got that bill to be stopped in its tracks. we heard from sources around donald trump and the camp yesterday who were adamant that this is trump's decision drive the conversation and donald trump -- elon musk, leading the
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effort to cut federal funding, that house republicans are excited about, that they are going along with what they are hearing from the president, although there are a lot of democrats and democracy experts who are concerned that he has an outsized power and influence over some of the decision- making happening on capitol hill. that being said, a lot of the changes elon musk and vivek ramaswamy were asking for on twitter , some of the cost to the spending package have not ultimately materialized. yes, there is less pages as a lot of people have been tweeting , but the actual size of the package and the amount of money being potentially appropriated is roughly the same. there are some marginal discrepancies such as funding for pediatric cancer which has been cut from the bill, but not the massive changes that elon musk has been pushing for. >> how much power and influence does the president-elect currently exercise in the house
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republican? >> i think we are finding out in real time he and elon musk had enough influence to take this bipartisan deal. whether he has the ability to push his own preferred policies over the finish line is another question. i go back to the first donald trump administration where this was largely true then, donald trump is much more effective at killing the policies he does not like then in passing the ones he does. he needs a strong speaker and he needs a bigger majority. he will not have either of those things potentially going into next year. i think that will hamper him significant on his legislative agenda. >> thank you so very much, i really appreciate it. house democrats just finished up a meeting on capitol hill and we will speak with a lawmaker in the room. we will chat in just a minute. how a government shutdown could immediately affect everyday americans, and the
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minority leader hakeem jeffries addressed the possibility of a shutdown. >> government shutdown that will crash the economy and hurt working-class americans because they would rather enact massive tax cuts for the billionaire donors then fund cancer research for children. >> joining us is debbie wasserman schultz of florida, a member of the house appropriations committee and was in the meeting. congresswoman, a pleasure to see you always. take us into that meeting what happened? >> in the democratic caucus meeting i just left, we heard from hakeem jeffries and our senior members who are all unified and focused on making sure that we can take care of the needs of the american people. based on the votes that we take before the government shuts down in 12.5 hours.
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it is unbelievable that donald trump and president musk blew up a bipartisan agreement where we came together with republicans and democrats on both sides of the aisle and both sides of the campus, and agreed we needed to do things like make sure we can take care of children with cancer. making sure that we can improve the quality of access to healthcare, make sure we can prevent cuts to social security , and republicans did the bidding, scraping to an unelected billionaire and the incoming president donald trump , because they are quaking in their boots and they are a chaos caucus that does not help down -- -- that does not know how to go their way. >> 12 hours plus until a government shutdown unless there is something that can come out from the house that
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would then go to the senate and , is there anything you see that could be a bridgebuilder? skinny cr with side -- what could come out to avert a shutdown? >> i am not going to negotiate on tv, but i was heartened to hear from hakeem jeffries that there has been outreach from the republicans, there is not an imminent vote. is that they are able to agree upon. but we had a bipartisan agreement that was blown up by a nonelected billionaire who is now the richest man in the world, who enriched himself since election day, jose, and doubled his net worth. it is
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about the bottom line for the billionaires for the republicans , and for democrats, about making sure we can make everyday people's lives better, and that is the contrast, and we are not going to just roll over and bow and scrape to elon musk and donald trump like republicans are willing to. >> if there is no rollover or agreement possible, how long could a shutdown last night max make there does not need to be a shutdown, we have a bipartisan agreement we can put on the floor and pass today. short of that, we need to make sure we come together and sort out, because the republicans have a very slim majority, a slimmer majority in the next congress. they are going to need us to pass anything as we saw last night. we are willing to come to the table and work together to get something accomplished, but it has to deliver for the american people and it cannot hurt them. we have to pass the disaster relief and bring
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health and for our farmers across the country and make sure that we buttress our budget and make sure that it improves the lives of american people, not hurts them. >> if it is a shutdown, 12 hours and 40 minutes from now when you will have to read whatever is proposed and it has to be agreed upon, and it has to go to the senate. how long do you think this could continue? >> look, i have been here when we have a 37 day donald trump shutdown and a donald trump shutdown that went 18 days. this is a guy who does not care about the impact of a shutdown on the american people, our workers, tsa agents would be going without pay, military pay could be at risk, we have people who would not get the benefits, we have plenty of workers across the country who would not be getting paid. the damage to our economy, like trying -- like intentionally
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driving our economy into the side of a cliff. that is what the musk-trump shutdown would be and they don't care and have proven they do not care because they have shut us down for days in the past and lost. donald trump has never won a shutdown fight ever, but he abides by insanity, willing to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. >> we have heard so much from donald trump, elon musk, vivek ramaswamy , and others, where is joe biden in all of this? have you spoken with him? has he been involved? >> president biden made it clear that the bipartisan agreement reached, the musk- trump team reached is a comprehensive package that takes care of the needs of the american people and make sure
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that we can come together in a bipartisan way to help ensure we improve the quality of life of people, not make plans to increase the debt limit to allow them to cut social security and medicare and medicaid so they can enrich more billionaires and millionaires with bigger tax cuts. that is the contrast and that is the choice. democrats will continue, under joe biden and hakeem jeffries, and chuck schumer's leadership, to fight for our seniors, farmers, families devastated by natural disasters, and republicans are clearly fighting for millionaires and billionaires. >> debbie wasserman schultz, thank you for your time, always so kind sharing your time with us . appreciate it. the man accused of killing united healthcare ceo facing new charges, why he could be facing the death penalty millions are going home for the holidays but mother nature could have something in store.
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28 past the hour, luigi mangione back in new york city for the first time since the shooting of united healthcare ceo brian thompson, facing four new cows from federal positives including stalking and a murder charge that could carry the death penalty. joining us is lisa rubin and danny cevallos, msnbc legal
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analysts. what are federal prosecutors, how did they land on these new charges? >> first of all, there are only certain charges the federal government can bring, for the most part murder is something usually prosecuted by state positives but there are exceptions and what is the statute that allows for the prosecution of murder with a firearm because the regulation of firearms historically has fallen to the federal government because it is an exercise of the commerce clause powers, to regulate interstate commerce. as for the other charges, some of them seem like an overreach the two stalking charges in order to commit stalking, under the federal statute, one of the things you have to do is, the victim has to know and have fear inside it in them. given what we know so far about the interactions between brian thompson and luigi mangione not clear that
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brian thompson knew he was being followed and not cleared that, except for a split second before he was shot and killed, brian thompson understood he would be shot and killed that is not what the stalking statute is designed to do >> what are they designed to do and what is the burden of proof? >> burden of proof is always beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal context in terms of the elements of a stalking statute, with an intent to harass or kill or injure someone, instill fear in them and, on top of that, for a stalking murder charge can actually commit the crime itself. but, critical to the stalking charge, you are intending to drive fear into the heart of someone and that you do in fact drive fear into that person, almost like individualized terrorism. >> what are these charges, which of these charges include the possibility of the death penalty? >> those under the firearms charge. there is no general federal
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murder statute, the federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction and if there is a murder case in federal court, there needs to be additional jurisdictional hook. you have the firearms charges. to make a federal firearms charge resulting in murder, a federal murder crime, is basically making a general federal murder statute because a lot of shootings and killings are firearm related. normally, because the federal government is one of limited jurisdiction, these are the kinds of crimes you may say are usually handled by state courts, stalking, shooting someone with a gun. yes, there is an interstate component and the defendant fled across state lines, you definitely have those jurisdictional hooks, but the question arises, is this a case that should've been brought by the federal government this was a question, under doj policy, is there a substantial federal interest that has been dictated
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by this prosecution that otherwise would go unanswered by the state prosecution? >> what does that mean? >> for example, i imagine doj did this internally, they don't have to follow it and the defendant cannot sue to enforce them to follow their own policy . generally speaking, they have to ask themselves before charging, is there a substantial federal interest that is achieved by these charges? or, with the things we need to satisfy justice in our mind be satisfied by a state prosecution? reasonable minds could differ on that question. >> from a legal perspective, what is the difference? if you have a federal murder charge and one or two or three murder charges, state, does the overlapping include double jeopardy anywhere? >> it definitely could. sometimes, you see a defendant who is a defendant in parallel prosecutions plead out and waive their double jeopardy rights. we have seen it before
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and also circumstances in which the elements of each crime are not substantially similar enough to trigger jeopardy. the defendant who was convicted both federally and by the san francisco district attorney of the assault and kidnapping on nancy pelosi's husband. he will serve concurrent sentence in federal and state prisons have an aa having been convicted on federal and state charges to the extent double jeopardy wasn't located, at least we have not had a court ruling yet that says those series of charges cannot coexist because they overlap so much it would be unconstitutional. >> where'd you go after all that as a defense attorney? >> the defense for luigi mangione has said they think this raises double jeopardy concerns . i believe it does not . again, people may disagree. the question is, are these two crimes exactly the same, do
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they each have some element the other does not? even if they are the same, it probably does not matter because these are two different sovereigns. we have a state crime and a federal crime. we consider those two different kingdoms. when that happens, almost never any double jeopardy implications. even if the crimes are the same, the supreme court said this a couple years ago, even if the crimes are the same, because we are talking about separate kingdoms, they can prosecute for the same conduct and probably the same crime with a couple of narrow exceptions, double jeopardy, in spirit, i agree with the defense that they have a point in spirit, should this be brought in federal court? i don't think so. however, they will never be able to raise a successful double jeopardy challenge because these are two different sovereigns ringing this case even if the crimes and conduct a similar. >> thank you very much, great seeing you let's look at the countdown
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clock on the screen, it is 12 hours and 26 minutes and we will go back to the capitol hill for any deals being made, if any, or tried to stop a government shutdown. you are watching jose diaz- balart reports on msnbc. nbc. t to see this. i've seen it. trust me, after 15 walks, it gets a little old. ugh. i really should be retired by now. wish i'd invested when i had the chance... to the moon! unbelievable. stop waiting. start investing. e*trade ® from morgan stanley. shopify's point of sale system helps you sell at every stage of your business. with fast and secure payment. card readers you can rely on. and one place to manage it all. whatever the stage, businesses that grow grow with shopify.
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. you see the clock, 12 hours and 23 minutes until the deadline is reached. the fight over the government funding bill shows the very difficult situation facing house speaker mike johnson. punch bowl news reporter got so bad during a meeting with lawmakers in his office on thursday that johnson said, if anyone else can get to 218 votes, god bless them, according to three lawmakers present at the meeting. megan has is with us, and former white house director of message and planning. ali velshi, what is the latest, there is movement but sometimes the movie does not get too much ? >> definitely movement and we have moved beyond concept of a plan to a seemingly firmer strategy for this plan c. hearing from sources in the
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room shuttling in and out with the speaker all day that they are going to vote or tried to vote on a multipronged plan that separates out all the different aspects of this funding fight. into their own separate bill and their own separate vote. what we are hearing is that there would be one vote on the ag and farm bill extension pieces and the continuing resolution itself, but would keep the government open until mid-march, with another vote on the disaster relief portion, what it leaves out is that there would not be a vote on the debt ceiling or debt limit piece of this, that is the very thing that donald trump and elon musk scuttled this entire first plan a over in the first place, which presents the question, will they be happy with this? i will tell you, removing the debt ceiling piece could placate democrats who feel like
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they got the wool pulled over their eyes with the first iteration of this deal been completely trashed in real time earlier this week. but it could placate those 30 some odd republican members who , in part, voted against the version of the bill yesterday because they did not want to see the debt ceiling raised in that fashion, but, these are many of the same members who do not vote for continuing resolutions anyway. it is imperative to republican leadership to get democrats on board despite the fact that congresswoman luna said this this morning. >> we are not cutting deals with democrats, we will work it out here, i do not believe the government will be shutting down and you will see great stuff very soon. >> we expect that republicans will huddle amongst themselves, stop me if you have heard this one before, at some point in the next few hours, likely this afternoon before we see any kind of vote on capitol hill. despite what congresswoman luna
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is saying, no votes from democrats, no open lines of medications, the top democrat, hakeem jeffries, says the lines of the medications are reopened and we will see if that bears fruit. >> ali, talking 12 hours and 20 minutes to go. if it is just a cr to keep things going until march and then you separate ag bill,the disaster bill, does that make it any different for democrats that are seeing what is going on inside the republican camp? >> i think it might, only because the debt ceiling piece of this infuriated democrats. from their perspective, they negotiated in bipartisan fashion with the speaker and bipartisan leadership on a much larger bill to fund the government, including those
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other provisions on disaster relief and on the farm bill extension, but it did not talk about the debt ceiling that would come to the floor in the middle of next year, democrats were thinking about that as a leverage point for whatever state they find themselves in in the reconciliation process with the trump administration and with republicans controlling both houses of congress. that is in part why they wanted to preserve it. also, there are democrats who love the idea of raising the debt ceiling. i spoke to some of them yesterday. but negotiating that and throwing it on the table as if it is a small thing in 24 hours is not the way a massive issue like that should be handled. even democrats who want to go along with it have said that to me. on the republican side of the aisle, there are many republicans, even if they like the other contours of this plan , they don't like the idea of raising the debt ceiling or abolishing the debt ceiling. it is a sticky issue that could pull in bipartisan support but, because of the way it was
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tossed into the mix, and democrats and republicans all were forced to grapple with this in real time and that is why it was a nonstarter. but they do need democrats to get on board because the dirty secret that i feel like should be an open secret, these kinds of government funding bills always pass with a large amount of democrats backing them in part because democrats want to keep the government funded an open them and also, with the margins then, republicans, the 30 or so that voted against his yesterday, are usually the 30 or so that never vote for these kinds of bills anyway republicans need to look to democrats to keep the lights on, especially in this environment where they have only a slim majority to work with. >> charlie, how do you see this? these different problems that come up seemingly in the last moments, what is your take on that >> my head is about to explode, the congresswoman said that republicans will do this on their own. they will not.
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simple fact, there are not 218 house republican votes to pass a continuing resolution or a debt ceiling. therefore, they will need hakeem jeffries and a lot of democrats to vote for this. elon musk talk to them. that is the reality, splitting it up is probably a likely outcome, whether that passes or not, i do not know. the other option is to bring up negotiated bill that elon musk, with an assist from donald trump, tank the other day which is crazy by the way, they will do a debt ceiling. they will not do it today or tomorrow. the democrats will use this as leverage. i would like to remind everybody that both republicans and democrats like to use the debt ceiling, they taken hostage. this is one hostage no one will shoot. right now, we have a mess. i suspect they will vote on the
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cr separately from the debt ceiling, from the disaster relief, and from the farm bill. that is probably what they will do. it is a holy mess right now. somebody should call the united states senate. they have been quite. the house sometimes forgets there is a senate and they will need 60 votes to pass what the house does. if the house does not get his act together, chuck schumer will get something to take back to the house. >> not get to presume anything, quit talking on capitol hill, but assuming that conversation, with the top two in the senate, has been at least carried out. but, you know, maybe not. i am wondering, the democrats have so much strength right now on this issue. how are they handling it and one of the potential pitfalls or the benefits that democrats are seeing now?
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>> i think they are waking up and have more power not having a majority than they thought and will have more power and to generate with the new congress. the majority is so slim on the republican part, they need democrats to get anything done whether it is this bill or extending the tax cut, the debt ceiling, anything that needs to get done through congress, or the house, will need democratic support and republicans will need to work with democrats. the sooner they recognize that, the better, someone not elected to congress or the white house, elon musk, cannot throw in these tweets or from x, and expect things to fall apart. he is never governed and does not know what is like to negotiate and if they want to govern like that, they will have shutdowns, they will not get any of the donald trump agenda complete or anything passed through the house without working with democrats.
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you have to compromise on these things to get them done. >> charlie, back to that story that said johnson said, if there is 218 votes, god bless them. there is a question of, there has to be a speaker. there has been times there has not been a speaker. that is in our recent lifetime. what is johnson's position right now? also, the 38 republican legislators who voted against the trump sponsored bill, do they have pressure to change? >> yes, but the interesting thing, elon musk and donald trump kneecapped johnson by tanking the bipartisan agreement and johnson is weakened by the failure of the
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bill yesterday, mike johnson is right, i feel sorry for him, he does not have 218 votes and is in a terrible bite and this could affect his ability to become speaker. the reason we are in this mess to begin with, because the hardliners and donald trump wanted to kick the appropriations process into the new year, they got their wish, which is crazy because they should've finished the appropriations bills in december these hardliners are not going to vote for the continuing resolution anyway. the problem in the house republican conference, this goes back a long time, the leadership takes a lot of advice and input from the very members who are not going to vote for the bills that must pass. government politics 101, those people voting for the bills get to determine the content of the bills, not those voting against it. that is what is happening here. that is why this place is so dysfunctional.
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and cannot operate, because the people who can never get it done are telling us how to run the government. >> as you say, ask ryan or john weiner, any of the other ones, the question i asked a bit ago, where is president biden on this? how much of an impact is he having? have we heard from him enough? >> i don't think it is his mess, this is a mess from donald trump, i think that the president and white house are working behind the scenes as they always do in these situations. they had a deal, they had negotiations done with democrats support and elon musk and donald trump tanked it. this is not biden's problem with the democrats problem, the republicans need to come back with a bill the democrats
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compromise on originally and they will get it passed and the government will stay open the blame solely on elon musk and donald trump. >> thank you all so very much. next, thousands of teamsters who work at amazon facilities across the nation are now on day two of the picket line. we have the response from amazon . one of the busiest holiday travel days of the year, today, no shortage of stress, you are watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc.
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52 passed the hour with the holiday travel rush kicking off with a record number of people expected to take to the roads and the skies between now and new year's. we go to newark airport. how are things looking today? >> reporter: good morning, jose. there was a crunch, but things are moving more smoothly across the country, 2800 delays every hour, that number is going up. we are expecting some weather in the great lakes and northeast that could complicate things for travelers right now with aaa estimating under 120 million americans are traveling 50 or more miles away from home and tsa is preparing to screen about 40 million flyers through january 2nd, that is the official travel time between now and january 2nd.
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we have been talking to people traveling from overseas or have multiple connections today. in some cases, worried about the length of the labor and whether or not they should have budgeted additional time to prepare all of that. there is the weather and the fact that hanukkah and christmas start on the same day this year. which means we will have more crossover, more travelers on some days. and the government shutdown looming potentially, tsa, 59,000 employees who would be asked to come to work every day without pay, if that happens, last time, many did not show up or called in sick which could lead to further delays. >> antonia hylton, thank you very much. for a union representing starbucks workers announced they would go on strike at three of the largest markets and workers at amazon warehouse is today and delivery drivers are hitting the picket lines for the second straight day joining us from outside the amazon facility in georgia is
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-- thousands of amazon workers are on the picket lines wanting better wages and more benefits, and amazon did not meet the december 15 deadline to come to the negotiating table. but amazon is firing back saying that they are not their employees and actually third- party contractors and none of this will impact their operations. shipping experts i spoke to agreed, they say, if anything you may see a few days delay on your holiday shopping packages being delivered, if you are close to some of the markets where these amazon strikers are participating in these strikes. starbucks workers overnight announcing their own strike which they say will last five days and escalating, they are starting in seattle, los angeles, and chicago, and say it will spread to other areas. they are striking over wages and other labor disputes.
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starbucks is saying that the union prematurely stopped negotiations. >> thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me, i am jose diaz-balart and you can reach me on social media . i will see you tomorrow night on nbc nightly news saturday. you can watch clips from our show at youtube, thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news after the break. i just assumed it was normal. then we learned about bulkamid. an fda approved non-drug solution for our condition. it really works, and it lasts for years. it's been the best thing we've done for our families. call 800-983-0000 to arrange an appointment with an expert physician to determine if bulkamid is right for you. results and experiences may vary.
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