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tv   Katy Tur Reports  MSNBC  December 20, 2024 12:00pm-1:01pm PST

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good to be with you, i am katy tur. breaking news out of germany where local media reports a car drove into a group of people at a christmas market in the city of magdeburg. a spokesperson says the suspected driver has been arrested, we are waiting on details coming out of germany in what could be a pretty ugly incident in the number of emergency personnel that we see on the ground. it will have that update for you as soon as we have more confirmed information. meantime, big news from the united states. congress has nine hours to come
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up with a funding bill. at midnight tonight, the government would shut down. where do things stand? nowhere really, we have heard many different iterations of what is the next step what it is hard to keep track. we will give you the details from the capitol in a second. we have live reporters, but first the member what's at stake. all nonessential government workers are told to go home, federally funded parks and museums would close. millions and i mean millions of government employees will potentially stop getting a paycheck including members of the military. services will slow down, potentially including passport processing and air travel could get messy even more than it already is and already will be during the busiest travel season of the year. the holiday travel season. as tsa workers are deemed essential, paychecks for them
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are not and the same for air traffic controllers. meaning if past prologue many will call out sick and say they cannot work due to can -- financial constraints and the lines will get longer at the airports so who in congress is in charge? is it speaker johnson who told reporters there would not be any shutdown or is it donald trump or elon musk who are getting involved making demands? join us while now is senior correspondent garret haake, ali vitali and political contributor jake sherman. jake, where do things stand? >> speaker mike johnson is planning and as you noted, this is a ever shifting, ever- changing environment. this one looks like it will stick as it will try to pass a
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clean cr which will be government funding until march, disaster funding extending the farm bill for agriculture and nutrition programs across the country, this will be on the floor today as under the 2/3 majority so he will need democrats to get it done. the long and short of it, this could have been done weeks ago, at the beginning of the process to avoid this mess, instead we went through many iterations that were all pretty dumb to be honest with you. and strategically unwise. and we are ending up where it always should have, a clean bill with no debt ceiling, donald trump asked for the debt ceiling he will not get a debt ceiling increase and it should pass in the next two or three hours. >> that's good news, so how does donald trump feel about this? >> it is possible those conversations happen as we speak. i know that donald trump and
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speaker johnson did speak earlier today about the broader outlines of the plan and it is the expectation of a number of lawmakers and that the team has spoken to, that they want to speak to get trump to sign off because he does not get much of anything he wanted. he wanted the debt limit eliminated or kicked past the first two or all of his next term and that's not going to happen. he will have one major speedbump next summer and another with funding the government in march which as we have learned is not a simple exercise. he has an ambitious agenda and trying to clear the basics of the funding bills, the debt ceiling bills, it has been hard for any republican house majority and it will be hard again with him in the white house. i did speak with this person today familiar with trump and they say if he does go along with the plan, they will say they were able to cut a lot of
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pork out of the original christmas tree version of this with all the bells and whistles that were attached and they believe they have gained valuable intel about where the problems will be next year. which members will stick up for what issues. a useful exercise to get the information. but at what cost? >> expand on that, that's my next question. what does this tell us about where things are headed? >> this is certainly asking the question of what cost? given the fact that you landed in the place everyone assumed you would land in the first place. one of the speed bumps we are watching is how democrats react because as it seems republicans have a new fresh burst of confidence maybe they have reason to, democrats have been kept mostly in the dark and they are not even sure what the version of the plan is that they are going to be voting on.
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sure they have seen reports from our team and others and that's the way capitol hill works, people sharing unofficial information and reporting. our understanding is the speaker's office and maybe this has changed in the last few minutes because the speaker came out and said they have a few things to figure out before he was willing to release the details, maybe one of those things was having a meeting with house democratic leader jeffries was very much essential to the plan, if they plan to use the method of suspension to pass this. a procedure that says you need 2/3 geordie on the floor, in which case you will need democrats to get on board with this idea, the fact that the debt ceiling is not part of it makes this easier to sell, but democrats have been upset about the way the bipartisan process broke down and the way republicans say they would leave them in the dark. >> the other hurdle is the senate, do we know where things
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may stand? >> if this thing passes the house, i think, i mean famous last words but this could probably pass quickly in the senate. this is incredibly, on its own noncontroversial. this is basically, as described, a straight extension. last night the bill failed minus the debt limit and the one ask, very noncontroversial and should pass pretty easily. you are just kicking the can down the road until march. of course it will be difficult in march, incredibly difficult and it will complicate the agenda for the first six months of the year. which is something, this is a willing choice, mike johnson could have passed a year-long bill and kicked government funding until september but he chose not to do that. so again, projecting based on our knowledge it should be okay in the senate if it passes.
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>> just to reiterate, cr funding through march, separate farm bill extension with separate disaster funding, just keeping the lights on should be the easiest thing. again, famous last words as you just said. we have to cut this a little bit short because we are going back to germany and that incident at the christmas market in magdeburg, joining us is our nbc news producer in munich. i know you know the country well, you covered the last time this happened in 2016. what are you hearing about this incident? >> hi, katy tur. a lot of the details are unclear, especially for my police have been giving out officially. police have confirmed that there has been an incident at the christmas market and there
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is a big police presence, but at the moment they are more concerned in responding to that, more than giving out information as quickly as possible. a couple of minutes ago the german chancellor, has spoken via x and has sent out a statement there saying that the reports suggest something terrible has happened and his thoughts are with the victims of the families. he also said that everybody would stand by their side and by the side of the people of magdeburg. he also thanked the rescue workers in these anxious hours. we don't know exactly what happened or what the motive might have been of this alleged driver who allegedly plowed through the crowds there.
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obviously, we have seen similar incidents in the past, including the one from eight years ago when a truck was driven, by a terrorist into a christmas market in berlin. 13 people died then and then one later from the consequences. so these are memories that are coming back for the german people a few days before christmas. >> a horrifying memory and to see it unfolding, we don't know the motivation, but give us a little more information for the american audience, what these christmas markets are like. >> so basically there is a christmas market in most towns. even in big cities like the one i am in, in munich, there are several christmas markets around town, this is where people gather together in the evenings or even during the day
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especially on the weekend, they will have christmas eve snack, it will have wine and generally it is a festive atmosphere. also it has been a draw, walking through the christmas markets in munich, i will hear american tourists speaking. so it is something that has made germany quite famous, among tourists and also that could have made it a target. >> i understand this is an anniversary day for the last attack on the 20th of 2016, the last german market terrorist attack. oh, the 19th, excuse me. i'm sorry, you are right the 19th. so, the afp says 60 to 80 injured. that is a remarkably high number.
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>> yes it is and it is something we have not really seen, we have not seen such a mask casualty event since the end of the pandemic. there were several big mass casualty events in a timeframe from 2015 through 2018 when isis was at the height of their potential to spread the terror in european countries like germany and also france. so, if a number of 60 to 80 confirm that, that would be something we have not seen in years. if you look at the live picture now from magdeburg, you can see a long line of market stands, imagine if that was full of people, there was definitely a crowd of 100 plus people. >> if not many more.
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one of the stories over here is regarding the state of political affairs in germany. you can help us to understand better, the chancellor was called a confidence vote in parliament, they lost and there will be election in a few weeks, six months earlier than what it would have normally been and also, news today that elon musk is going out and endorsing a far right political group in your country. i bring this up and we don't know the details of what happened here, but the move, the environment in the country, can you help us to understand what's happening in germany? >> yeah, so i think a couple things are happening at the same time that it made the german population anxious in the recent months and years. i think one of them has, you know, it has been some of the
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political turmoil you mentioned and also the lagging economy. the war in ukraine not far away. so there is a growing anxiousness and what has happened is the coalition that the german chancellor had failed and that meant he had to basically call a vote of confidence in parliament, in order to then get a new election done earlier that is likely scheduled for the end of february. initially, the next election will be next fall's we're talking about half a year early, but it's not just that, the earlier election, also we have the growth of more populous parties on the right and on the left, that's really splitting the vote now and that will
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likely make it more difficult to form coalitions and stable government. we are seeing, we have seen similar things in recent months in neighboring france, where there has been difficulty getting a stable government there. and then you have tweets like the one from elon musk today that is also now where he is now involving himself in domestic policy in germany. supporting the right-wing group and why the official line of the government, for example in the press conference today was that they don't want to comment on it. i think there is growing anxiety of what it means, especially as we are in this time of political transition, not just in the u.s. as we transition to the trump
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administration there, but also, in europe, where the election is coming up in germany, there is unstable government in france, so i think this is kind of the mood that the pictures tonight will hit and, that could have clinical implications. >> i do think it is important to place people in the country with what's happening politically to get a better sense of what the mood is and as you mentioned how this will hit. the images are interesting because we are able to see police investigators going over the scene and potentially tracking what exactly happened. where the car went. trying to figure out all of the details, in order to do the hard work of what comes next. figuring out why this happened
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and then charging that person or if it ends up being persons involved. also the hard work of figuring out how many people were victims. if there is more loss of life, what sort of injuries, for those who are able to survive. contacting families. it's going to be a dark night in germany. one more question on the elon musk tweet. can you tell me more on why afd is considered a far right wing party. by some considerate extremist, what are the politics? >> so the afd initially started as i -- a anti-euro currency party. leslie concern around the european market and they try to speak to economics, but then changed in recent years were a lot of politicians who have
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joined the afd and you have helped the party to grow especially after the crisis, when you saw hundreds of thousands of refugees coming to germany, a lot of the politicians that were associated with the group, since then have kind of tried to profit from the anti- immigrant sentiment and things like that. and, you know, even tonight, the head of the afd, for example, put out a statement on x. saying, you know immediately commenting on this incident at the christmas market in magdeburg tonight, then asking the question at the end of the statement, asking when this
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craziness will end. so i think, you already see there that she is already trying to connect the incident tonight with kind of the general uneasiness and then potentially trying to profit from that. even the afd has already been named as being monitored, for example, by the german domestic intelligence service. to see if they are extremist and that could lead to further incidents in the future. >> important context. again, we don't know what exactly happened, we don't know who is responsible, that will take some time, but it is important to understand the context of what's happening in the country as something like this happens. the conversation that's being had internally. thank you, stick around if you
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can as you join together more information. joining us now, special agent from atf as well, i want to talk to you about what this means for i guess christmas and holiday celebrations across the continent and back in london, as well. >> well, there were already warnings in place, but in germany, this is a place known for their christmas markets. i mean the magdeburg christmas market is a big tourist attraction. a quick online search will tell you that hundreds of thousands of people come visit the site every year. magdeburg which is west of berlin , a city of 240,000 people. and of course, there are videos
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circulating online, some of which we have not verified, but what we have seen is absolutely jaw-dropping and shocking. showing the car ramming into dozens and dozens of people who were just enjoying an evening out a few days before christmas and what we also see now is video circulating of people lying on the ground. there is an extensive police operation in place as the previous guests told you. now, according to the afp, dozens and dozens of people between 60 and 80 people were injured. local media, mdr reporting at least one person was killed, but it would not be surprising, after seeing that video, that the number could rise and rise quickly. there is an extensive operation in place and i want to point
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out what authorities had been saying in previous weeks. the german interior minister last month said that there was no concrete indications of a danger to christmas markets this year, but it was wise to be vigilant. on december 19, 2016, nearly 8 years ago to the day in berlin and some viewers may remember this, an islamic extremist attacker plowed through a crowd in a christmas market in berlin. that attack killed 13 people and injured dozens more. the attacker was killed days later in a shoot out in italy. now the driver of this car, we understand, according to local media, has been arrested. again a massive police operation in place with information coming in. this is what we know for now. we will be updating you as the evening progresses. >> i'm wondering if you can
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characterize what it feels like to be in europe right now with tension between people. i know there is a lot of anxiety about migration, a lot of anxiety about far right political groups, propping up with populism on the rise. stable governments and no longer being so stable. friends and even germany as we were talking about. can you characterize what it feels like right now to live in europe? >> forgive me it was our producer of course in germany and he painted a much better picture than i can. i mean, i can say in london you will see it. if i look back to the previous election year and i hope i'm not wrong, but the proportion of voters 18 to 25 who voted for the far right had really
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gone up, had increased dramatically. that was noticeable. in other countries, you mention france, of course and it is a combination of various things. cost-of-living crisis, immigration, germany, of course, has been the country. 1 million refugees sought refuge in syria in the past, since 2005 with the syrian civil war. so they have experienced it acutely. but i have to say in london, i live in southeast london, i travel every day throughout the city. i cannot say it's something that i see and feel, not in this city, but it is a different picture elsewhere in europe for sure. >> i think a lot of folks that are watching this may be worried about what this could mean for something happening with copycats who might want to
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do something, in the states there are popular christmas markets in major cities, including here in new york. nypd has stepped up security. a lot of christmas markets in the city, a number of them have stepped up security in recent years, with concrete pilings and other barriers to prevent a car attack like we are seeing in germany, like what we saw from 2016. the aftermath of that with all the cars attacking in the past few years wanting to prevent those situations from happening, but it is difficult when you have a lot of people gathered on a city street or next to a city street anyway. >> it's virtually impossible to anticipate an individual taking a car and ramming it into anywhere throughout europe, christmas market or otherwise. obviously eight years ago there was another attack and it was the same year an attack in
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france. during bastille day and then there was an attack in new york city on halloween. but these types of attacks are the most difficult to anticipate and to prevent, other than putting concrete bollards up or other barriers. here in this town, it is not berlin or munich, it is a smaller town with 250,000 people. it is not a major hub, this is the difficulty, i will tell you this. what's really important is not to sign motivation to the individual. it could be along the lines of terrorism, it could be a new specter of an effort to destabilize the government or spread fear or it could be someone who is insane. that's part of the challenge now as to the motivation. it still remains the hardest thing to prevent against other
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than putting up physical barriers. >> so what do you do if you are the nypd right now? >> nypd, check your sources on social media. who is talking? is the event resonating with anybody in the community? you need to coordinate what has been happening in the run up to this. this has not been a date of significance in the united states. eight years ago another christmas market, but eight years later, it's hard to see what the nexus would be. so another checking social media, telling police to be more vigilant in this type of situation. >> we are waiting on detailed information, but the afp reports 60 to 80 people were injured by this car and there are videos being circulated that we are working to confirm, that are really difficult to see
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. a car speeding through what appears to be this market with a lot of people not being able to get out of the way in time. other video showing the aftermath and many many many people on the ground. you can see from the images we are watching of the police investigation, the lane that the car went through and what remains. not to mention the space blankets and whatnot they were trying to use the key people who were potentially injured, warm. it is christmas time and it is cold in germany. to keep those injured warm so by the time they are loaded into the ambulance, they are in the best shape they can possibly be in, on their way to the hospital. i fear from the images we are seeing, the death toll we had initially, one person dead is potentially going to rise. are you still with us? >> yes i am still here. >> anything new, on your end?
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>> no. i tried to call the police again, but they have not been picking up. >> what time is it? >> at the moment, 9:30 p.m. local. so you know we assume this happened about 90 minutes, two hours, so that's peak time at these markets. especially on a friday evening when people are starting their weekend, meeting friends at these markets. one thing that has happened since the attack, from eight years ago, is that even in the small town christmas markets, you now see some of these barriers that should actually stop a car or even a truck. so, why that did not work in this incident will also be part
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of another investigation. because, in recent years we have definitely seen security has been stepped up. also, the response by police officers, by rescue workers, they are much more trained for these kinds of scenarios. >> unfortunately, it is the reality we live in. thank you so much, michael balboni , jim and daniele hamamdjian, hold on for us for a second. we are going to take a quick break. we are monitoring this and as to what we know, 60 to 80 people injured in this car attack, a car that drove through a christmas market in magdeburg , germany. we will bring you the details as we get them in, we are going to take a short break and come back on the other side with senator chris murphy to talk
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so, congress has just over eight hours to avert, to avoid a government shutdown, to pass a funding bill. it has been touch ago but there does appear to be some movement, speaker johnson say they will split it up, they love the
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continuing resolution until march, then the farm bill and then disaster aid, those three will be voted on separately, but at least the continuing resolution, until march should get funded and the government will keep the lights on. joining us now democratic senator from connecticut, chris murphy. is that how you understand it as well? >> i have no idea, i am following along as you are. that's the deal until one of trumps billy and her friends tweets he does not like it. we are in the middle of a brave new world in which unelected billionaires hold the power within the republican conference. obviously we are hoping that they do not cause us to go into shutdown, but there is also reporting that there is some secret side deal between speaker johnson and preisdent trump that they are all shaking hands on a deal to cut
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medicare, medicaid and veterans benefits by $2 trillion once they are sworn into the new congress. that sounds like a pretty awful deal for the american people, if that's the way in which they afford another tax cut for billionaires and millionaires. still chaos in the house, they have not passed anything until they pass something and we are all hoping that they don't shut down the government tonight. >> if there is a skinny cr that comes your way are you going to vote yes on it? >> let's take a look at what it is. obviously, you reported it includes subsidies for agriculture, disaster. >> those are separate bills. >> we don't know how this will work, it might be packaged together in one bill so we all have to take a look at what gets to us. obviously we want to make sure the government does not shutdown but we have to be careful.
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>> what you make of this, you mentioned this, more on what you make about the way elon musk has inserted himself into politics. not just with the funding bill, and also the way he has been threatening republicans with primaries if they don't get on board with donald trump's agenda and every decision donald trump has made? >> the important question is why has elon musk embedded himself in the white house and i think the answer is simple. elon musk became a billionaire because of government policy, subsidies for his space program and subsidies for electric vehicles. so he wants to make sure that those subsidies continue. he also does a lot of business in china so he wants to make sure that his business does not get shut down with the chinese government. so elon musk is inside the government to protect his billions and most of the other billionaires nominated are inside the trump government to
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protect and expand their billions. it is a great deal for the billionaire class so of course they are going to threaten any republicans that vote against their interest. elon musk did not oppose the big defense spending bill, he'll post the original version of the cr probably in part because it would make it harder for him to do business in china. this is becoming an oligarchy where a handful of very rich billionaires, who have glommed on to donald trump's power will use government to enrich themselves and punish republicans who don't vote in accordance with their interests, not the interests of the public, the interest of the oligarchy. >> the american public voted for these guys, elon musk was on the side of donald trump, nobody's getting the wool pulled over their eyes on this. what do you say to that?
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>> i'm not sure, i'm not sure anybody thought that elon musk and would have this much power, elon musk has endorsed donald trump, but a lot of rich guys endorsed donald trump. why is elon musk all of a sudden in charge? donald trump signed off on the original continuing resolution and reversed course only when elon musk came out in opposition. so i'm not sure the american public voted for donald trump thinking he would outsource all of the key governance decisions to a handful of billionaires. >> can you get rid of the debt ceiling and cut over misspending? if you're going to cut spending as much as elon musk and want to do, why would you need to get of the debt ceiling? >> a good question and you have to understand that the billionaires want to cut
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government in a way that hurts when the people, they don't want to cut the parts that help them. i don't think you will hear elon musk proposing to cut subsidies for his company's. apparently what was agreed to in the last six hours were cut to the mandatory spending and that is mainly medicare, the program that takes care of the elderly and medicaid, the program that takes care of mainly very poor children in this country. so apparently they have cut a deal that protects the programs that help any billionaires, but cuts the programs that help ordinary average, poor and elderly americans. >> i will not ask about germany, but i want to ask about elon musk endorsing the afd, far right german political group on twitter. in light of the german chancellor calling it a no- confidence vote with new elections, in february.
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very tumultuous time, not to mentioned what happened this evening, can you help me understand why elon musk would involve himself in german politics in this way? >> i really can't understand it. afd is referred to as the far right party in germany, but let's be honest they are essentially a neo-nazi party, the rehabilitation of the image of that party that they stand for. a lot of hateful things, including the mass deportation of anybody in germany who is not born in germany. one of their leaders, the license plate honors adolf hitler. so this is obviously a really disturbing endorsement that elon musk has made of the neo- nazi party in germany and if elon musk is in charge of the trump administration it portends
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some really evil things when it comes to the kinds of efforts that the trump administration is going to support. not democracies, but potential hateful fringe groups like afd. >> senator chris murphy, thank you very much. that go back to germany and what is happening on the ground. reporting now from reuters is officials believe there may be an explosive device within the car that drove through that christmas market. the numbers, 60 to 80 people injured, the death toll right now at one according to earlier reporting. if the images we have seen are correct, that number is certainly going to rise. there is going to be a briefing , according to the bbc, for the local minister in a few minutes. we will get more information out of that as it comes in.
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during a snow on the form is former cia officer specializing in counter terrorism and served a number of years in europe. really good to have you, thank you. as you watch this, how does the investigation unfold? >> good afternoon. first of all, attacks we have seen before using vehicles as a weapon has been used from isis and in europe, not a surprise because it does not take training or explosives. it is just an individual, often radicalized. so, some reports is they may have someone in custody and that's going to be extremely useful in the investigation. >> if you were german officials how do you prevent something like this? you mentioned how easy it is, you don't need training. we don't know if this is an individual working on their own, maybe they had a mental break or somebody wasn't radicalized by a terror group
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or write group, we don't know the motivation to now, they could span the gamut. given that, how do you keep people safe in these crowded environments? >> that's a great question. something security struggles with. do you put security around a perimeter, do you put vehicle barriers around the christmas market? it is against our values of having the open and free society in areas in which people congregate. christmas markets in europe are famous for their beauty and the importance of the culture. so you would need to put vehicle barriers around it. to do this on that kind of scale is a challenge, but we have to see what happens with the investigation. who carried it out and certainly there will be heightened security measures over this holiday season now. >> to get back to the mood in
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europe and germany specifically, we were talking with chris murphy about elon musk endorsing the far right extremist political group in the next elections which will happen in february. now that the chancellor has called a no-confidence vote that he lost. there is building antipathy which has been building for some time, maybe now reaching a crescendo on immigration and migrants with the collapse of bashar al-assad and he going to russia, there is a large call among some groups in europe for anybody who migrated to europe on an asylum claim, based on fear of the regime that needs to go back to syria. so there is pushes there. governments in france, the german government, there is a rise which by the way elon musk is getting involved with, in the uk, a far right group in the uk that is anti-immigration.
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and then in italy, the first of what they describe as far right government, the leader of a government in europe, since world war ii, since the nazis were preaching back in world war ii. what is the situation like in europe now? >> that was not a list of a lot of positive developments, but it is a reflection of a lot of the population for the different countries being dissatisfied with their political leaders. not something we have not seen in the united states. and you listed grievances in europe about high prices, inflation, energy cost going up, immigration, so there is a backlash and you will see that we have seen that across europe with political classes of all countries under a lot of scrutiny. one of my close contacts in
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europe, in germany when i asked her about this, she said people were are really cranky here. so maybe it's not as far to the right as we worried about, but elon musk, the tweet about the afd is kind of be on the pay with the previous commentator noting that is in essence a nazi party. that is something we don't want any american politician endorsing. >> that was senator chris murphy. he was also concerned about what the incoming government, the position the incoming government may have for these parties in europe. if there is a softening to parties like the afd in germany, if there is softening toward russia. may be putting up in italy or an endorsement for the uk. what will that mean? as somebody who worked in foreign policy and national
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security, if the u.s. changes its position and alignment on this stuff, what is it going to mean for the state of things have come to know so far? >> some of these parties, you know you cannot imagine any american politician with the endorsement and we have a lot of the republican, the maga republican party in love with victor or bonn, but moving to other right-wing parties, you can see the united states which has been a beacon of democracy camino it may longer be that shiny city on the hill and there is concern on that. i hope it's just cranky voters in many of the european states. if we see incoming preisdent trump endorse these extreme hard right parties, that's a
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huge concern because america does mean something in the world and i think that will have a very negative effect in europe. >> we have more information, the ap reporting the deputy mayor from magdeburg says at least one person killed, 50 have been injured in the german christmas market attack. we are awaiting, to see if numbers change. you can see in the video, quite a messy scene in the aftermath of what happened. the market is so densely packed during the holiday season. these are wooden shacks that are toasting nuts, giving holiday treats, little ornaments are for sale, they get very tightly packed and it is really difficult to guard when they are on a city street or city square with cars going by. there have been efforts to putting stanchions, but again this is a difficult thing to protect as you gather so many people in one place.
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a soft target. let's bring in fellow and dir. of research in the foreign policy program at the brookings institution. thank you for being with us. what is your first reaction to what we have been seeing? >> greetings. of course sadness and even though there is a element of surprise, not really any surprise in the sense that the ice is threat in particular, even though we don't know who did this, the threat has never gone away in iraq and syria, the united states has counted a couple hundred attacks this year. we know we have been tracking what's going on with the overthrow of the al-assad for making syria. even in germany, this summer, there was a knife attack in which three were killed and isis claimed responsibility. a few months ago there was the terrible attack in moscow as we
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had intelligence before it happened, that took place at a concert and took 100 lives. this is an ongoing threat, much less than it was taken globally, of course, when you are the victim or one terrorist or a small group figures out a way to get through security, people let down their guard and you can have a tragedy like this summer, a big tragedy like moscow or today. >> michael, we want to go one more time to carlo angerer, reporter from munich who covers germany and europe. we have been watching, and i know you can see the surveillance video, and the moments after the car went through. it is that lane just to the right of your screen as people flee, you can see some people on the ground. i know the deputy mayor, reporting 50 people injured what have you been hearing out of local media in germany?
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>> so, we just now have an update via x, from the city account of magdeburg. they are now confirming that, it was one car that drove at a high-speed into the christmas market. at the moment, rescue services are saying, this is according to the official city account. at least one person has been killed. 15 have been seriously injured. 37 have had medium injuries and 16 have been slightly injured. so we are talking about, 68 people injured and at least one person is dead. that information just came through now. >> you said 15 seriously injured? >> 15 seriously injured.
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>> okay, thank you very much. i know you'll be joining the deadline at the white house in a few minutes. jim cavanaugh with us as well. the video we were showing, the surveillance video. if you were to watch, you will see a car going at a very high rate of speed, down that right- hand lane in the christmas market. this video does appear to be sped up, so it would appear to be much faster on this video then it would be may be in real time. even so, a very high rate of speed with a lot of people in the way. very difficult for them to get out of the way. happening too fast, too densely packed. as you watch this, what are you thinking?
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>> the thing i am thinking about, is what you discussed earlier, the police reporting they have some information that there may be a excessive device in the vehicle. >> we don't have that confirm, that was a reuters report, we do not have not confirmed yet. >> the police probably don't know either. so if they are looking for that, which standard operating procedure, in law enforcement you would search the vehicle for explosive devices even if you do not have a report. that is of interest. i think we would all like to know, if it is something more than the drive attack, wasn't going to be drive and bomb attack? that remains to be seen if that pans out. i think what we have to remember, like michael o'hanlon said, terrorism is theater, at its basis, it is theater. if this is a terrorist motive
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and you have to realize so many of the attacks in the past, that you have covered and we have been on the air for have been terrorism. it does not mean it couldn't be some other motive, but many have been terrorism. al qaeda and isis have used vehicle attacks any times before. if it turns out to be terrorism, then the theater of terrorism has worked so good for the attackers. now they have worldwide news in the christmas season, across the world, this attack is played out. it will be interesting to see if they are claiming credit, from some group with some connection to the person, they have the alive person to have captured, german police and that will give them a lot of intelligence. about what this was about and what were the exact plans and wells could be involved.
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that is a step up. may have a name, they can check through indices, with worldwide intelligence, the cia and intelligence agencies. everybody is going to be looking. we know who this guy is, do we know what it is about? getting some answers to make sure there's not another one and they can stop it. >> i know we say by default, we have no idea, the identity of the person. we have video of the car going to the market. it is hard to watch, i will play once for you giving you a warning to turn away if you don't want to see it. we will play this in real time to give you a picture of what happened. roll the tape. >> you can see the car make a right turn and try to speed
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away. and again, we are not going to show it again. it's going pretty fast. there's a lot of people in that lane a lot of people were hit, carlo angerer reporter from germany says that the town's x account, the official account has now reported that 15 people are seriously injured. 37 people have what can be described as medium injuries. i would imagine serious, but stable. 16 light injuries, 68 which does include one person who was killed. those 15 serious injuries, based on that video that we just watched a moment ago of the car going through, you have to imagine there is going to be some uglier news. coming out of germany in the hours as officials get their
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heads around what happened as they talk to families in case and he was there alone. as they try to locate loved ones who may not have had any news about their loved ones or friends that were at this market. this marketmuch like this. eight years ago almost to the day. this was one day after it eight years ago. december 19th, 2016. everybody, thank you very much for joining us during this hour. they're going to continue the breaking news coverage next on "deadline white house." don't go anywhere. hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. i apologize at the outset for my cold. begin today with breaking news. a suspected attack at a christmas market in the city of magdeburg in central germany. up to 80 people have been injured. it happened when a vehicle plowed into a crowd.
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