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america and millions of federal employees will be able to observe the christmas holiday next week with the comfort of an open government. after congress was barely able to avoid a government shutdown late overnight. but leading up to it was a chaotic congress as the condemnations of billionaire elon musk seemed to carry as much weight with the lawmakers as president-elect dump, if not more. now, after whipping the votes to fund our government over the objections of trump and musk, mike johnson may be just inches away from becoming the next speaker to get axed when congress runs from recess next month to a massive slate of

problems and another spending fight in just three months. tonight, some are wondering whose hand will truly be at the wheel when that happens? the world's richest man or his future so-called boss? we start the show with nevada attorney general aaron ford. thank you for joining me today. attorney general ford, in the early hours of the morning, the u.s. senate overwhelmingly approved a bill to avert a government shutdown. including government aid for disaster relief. the bill funds the government through march 14th setting up another spending showdown in the early months of the second trump administration. where republicans will control both the senate and the house by very slim margin.

how could a government shutdown affect your state specifically? >> first of all, thank you for having me again and initiating this conversation. i am pleased we avoided the government shutdown. in no small part due to my friend hakeem jeffries and steven horseburg. we have 12,000 federal employee ins our state that ran the risk of not having a paycheck this holiday season. air force bases, the military bases that could have possibly been affected by the shut-down. so again, i am glad that the democrats came to save the day. i'm proud of hakeem jeffries and proud of the congressional deligation here. >> i wanted to talk to you.

because he says they have already begun strategizing on how to handle his administration. what is your course of action and what are you concerned the most about? >> well keith is a great friend of mine, we were both elected in 2011 for our respective states. i'm the cochair of the democratic attorney general association on which keith sits as a board member as well. we had been working together for years in anticipation of doing what we do best. defending the rights and privileges of our state. we continue doing what we have always done to ensure the rule of law is that which prevails. i'm not denying that president- elect donald trump didn't win fair and square. but he has the ability to

implement policies pursuant to his political platform but he has to do it lawfully and if he crosses the line and violates any constitutional rights or lawful rights of a person present in my state, i will meet him in court and i will defeat him in court. we standby the rule of law and that rule of law doesn't change based on who the president is. >> last week you announced nevada's fake elector's case from 2020 had been revived. six nevada republicans that are again being charged with submitting a bogus certificate declaring donald trump the winner of the 2020 president herbal election. you filed a new compliant charging the defendants with the felony of uttering a forged instrument. after the indictment was dismissed, why did you decide to pursue this charge and how

do you anticipate this to play out? >> well in the first case we filed, we believe we were lawful. we were correct in filing that case in clark county. it was dismiss and we appealed that to the supreme court. we are confident it will be rendered in our favor and we will pursue not just the forgery of charge but the filing of a false document charge in clark county. but we decided we would refile that charge up in carson city so as to ensure that justice prevails. you can ask anyone i work with. they will tell us our job is justice and the definition of justice does not change based on an election. so we will continue to pursue this. notwithstanding the fact that mr. trump is president. i have gotten questioned several times if i will dismiss

this case. no. the law requires these individuals who violated the law should be prosecuted. >> they filed as electors and actually try today say trump won the state then when he had not. now, let me go to this before i run out of time. you have recently announced plans to run for governor of nevada in 2026. being the first democrat to openly say so. you potentially would be the highest profile democrat to consider challenging the republican incumbent there who plans to run for reelection. what is your pitch to nevada this early on two years in advance? >> well let me be clear first off. i do intend to run for higher office and i'm having conversations with nevadans all across the state to find out what exactly they believe

nevada needs for its next governor the gubernatorial seat is something that i'm quite interested in and i do believe that i have a lot to offer to make sure everything is taken care of retive to economics and health care. we are looking forward to continuing this conversation. stay tuned reverend. >> no formal announcement by al sharpton formally announced that he will formally announced. thank you. joining me is the sage of capitol hill, congressman jim kleiburn. democrat of south carolina. congress was ultimately able to avert a government shutdown with the last minute vote to keep the government funded for the next three months. president biden just signed that bill earlier today. previous versions of the

spending bill failed this week after criticisms from president- elect trump and elon musk who has critics questioning just how much power he now has over republican priorities but 170 house republicans voted in favor of funding yesterday. both he and musk have hinted fourth coming primary challenge to those that defied the both of them. so who will be in charge here next month? congressman, is trump in charge or is musk in charge? >> well thank you very much, reverend for having me this evening it's hard to say. i had hoped we would stand with tradition and make sure the president is in charge and the

members of congress as well as the judiciary, the three branches of government will work in tandem to help keep our country moving forward to a more perfect union. if we are going to give up the authority that is invested in us throughout constitution to an unelected person who has selfish motives, then the country is not going to run well and i think we saw that when we saw this attempt to scuttle what had been a bipartisan bill agreed to by all the elected officials and an unelected person injects himself into the process and there goes out the window that

bipartisan bill. thankfully, 24 hours later, we brought it back together. but if that's what we are going to have during the trump administration, i think the people of america are going to be sorely disappointed with the direction of the country. >> and what is so frightening to me is not only is he not elected, he doesn't lead any kind of interest group or organization. he is just given this prominence because he is rich and he is only rich because under the obama administration he got certain federal contracts that excelled him. now he is leading the fight against dei and other things. it is frightening and how do we look to the rest of the world that all you have to do is be rich and you can tell the government what to do, it's like something you pull strings around. the next republican led congress will begin the year with a massive slate of issues

to contend with and a very narrow majority with which to pass bill. mike johnson reportedly faces an uncertain future and a lack of support from some of his caucus ahead of the next house vote to keep him as speaker or elect a new one. how does this week's drama point to what we can expect in the house next month and next year? >> unfortunately, i think this points to a lot of uncertainty. and a lot of instability. we can say what we want about our system but it is a good system. it has created a great country. and if we put instability uncertainty, into the middle of this system, i'm not sure how it is going to work. i'm not always satisfied with

the results of the decision by the supreme court or with the collaborations of our legislative bodies but we have had a certain amount of stability that allows us to work together to maybe overcome but if we are going to allow our legislative body to be hijacked by an unelected official with a portfolio that was just given to him, he doesn't seem to understand what government is all about except what he needs to be bailed out. as he was by the obama administration and now he is acting as if nobody is deserving of the attention of the federal government except

for him. >> as you know, president-elect trump has called for members of the house january 6th probe to be imprisoned and they are calling for former gop congresswoman liz cheney to be investigated by the fbi for her role in that probe claiming in a report released this week by the house administration's oversight committee that cheney violated several federal laws specifically by allegedly tampering with witness and former trump white house aid cassidy hutchinson. her lawyer has called these allegations preposterous and cheney has defended the legality of the probe. what are your thoughts? >> i think whoever is doing this is just sick in the head. we all know that was a duly

constituted committee headed by our good friend. they did the work. they had a right and responsibility to interview any witness. that is not tampering that is preparing people in order to be coherent when they are going to speak to the american people. i thought they did a great job. i am not happy with the way it has been responded to by members of the legislature. but the fact of the matter is they did what they were responsible for and they did a great job and we need to stop the grand standing.

i think that's all this is. something looking to make a headline. i don't think it has any kind of legal water in which to float. >> while we still have time, the house ethics committee secretly released this month to release its report into matt gaetz conduct in office. he faced allegations of illegal drug use and sexual activity with a 17-year-old girl. accusations he has denied though they taint his recent nomination by president-elect trump to lead the justice department. neither trump nor speaker johnson wanted the report public. what do you expect to come from its release now and why should we care if the justice department didn't bring charges after its own investigation of gaetz? >> i think we should care.

because i think the justice department, though i agree with our system, i don't think the justice department moved as swiftly and accurately as they should have moved on a lot of these issues. not just as it relate to gaetz. but also as it relates to donald trump himself. i do believe we are in the quagmire we are in because the justice department was slow to respond and investigate and before you knew it, time had run out. so i believe the ethics committee is doing the right thing to make public everything that they know about this issue and let the american people decide. because gaetz just says he is going to run for office again.

he is going to run for governor of florida. people will be casting their votes ought to know what is in this report in order to help them make up their minds as to who should be the next governor of florida. >> all right, representative jim, the sage of the house of representatives in my opinion. coming up, this week's gotcha for a guy who claims to love wins so much, trump is trying to fill his cabinet with a bunch of proven losers and rejects. that's after the break. but first, i'm excited to share that tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc, we are airing the 14th annual revvie awards. it is when we celebrate the best and worst of politics in 2024 and give awards to those who deserve it. i hope you will join me. more politics nation after this break. his

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new type of chaos in washington and what have you learned this week on musk's influence on trump. who is calling the shots here? >> it really looks like elon musk is almost a co-president. and i think that is remarkable but what is also remarkable is a lot of people assumed when elon musk, donald trump would tell republicans in congress to jump, people would be asking how high. look, we already have two instances of the gaetz nomination in the senate that was shot down by senate republicans immediately. and then you had musk and trump ask for this bill and threaten some members of the house. and that bill got 174 votes i think out of 435. i don't think it ever started. i think this will be some rough going for the trump administration. in the next congress if they think they will be able to

dictate between an evenly divided congress what they have to do. >> staying with the shut down's fascinating mess, it appears that this saga is threatening congressman mike johnson's ability to return as the speaker. his own base turned against a deal he suggested and now some republicans are talking about replacing him. and remember that the speaker election is january third. what are your thoughts? >> the 11, 12, 13, 14 votes it took for him to become speaker for a hot minute before they booted him out. mccarthy. and mike johnson has always faced the same perilous situation. i think johnson has been surprisingly effective in his ability to work both sides. his own caucus and to

constantly appease trump. the dynamics have changed because members of congress understand that trump has not always been successful trying to run people against them. and assuming he doesn't try to ignore the constitution, he is president for four years and then he is gone. that means it's a different political calculus. trump may be surprised and many of us may be that some of these republican members may not always fall in line with what he want to do and no one would be more surprised than trump himself. >> carlos, what are your thoughts about the potential unseating of mike johnson? >> now look, rev, mike johnson has always been on thin ice. he arrived at the speakership because republicans were so divided and he was the candidate for speaker who had the least enemies. who had no enemies because mike johnson really had not been in

any prominent leadership roles before ascending to the speakership. so there's a lot of instability in the house republican conference. clearly a lot of frustration. and with the two top positions being occupied by members from louisiana, johnson and steve scalise who is the majority leader, there are some members who will be making the case that there should be different leadership in the house. so we'll see how this all plays out. we know the last vote for house speaker was a whole week of tension and instability and chaos. we'll see. i don't think this is going to be a lot smoother than that. >> lauren, you run an organization that encourages women to vote. be advocates and become politically active so i want your opinion on the following. house ethics committee reporting on matt gaetz is

expected to be released at any moment. is it, it is looking into the conduct and misconduct allegations of gaetz including he had sex with a minor and an allegation he denies. what is really the story here? what do you expect we could learn from it? >> i lean look, there is a certain salaciousness to the matt gaetz story. it tells you something about his relationships in congress. just given how damning i suspect the allegations will be in this report. we already know a lot of it has been made public. we know he was sharing pornographic material on the floor of the house. but i want to make a larger point. because you did set it up as the importance of women's

political participation. this kind of horrific treatment of women and girls has become so routine in the trump administration, from trump on down, and since he has been in public life. he made it clear he has no problem surrounding himself with people who abuse women and he himself has been accuse of it. to see this over and over again, these men behaving in truly deplorable ways getting the kind of attention they get from this president is very discouraging for women and i hope the blow back will be sufficient and effective when the truth comes out about how matt gaetz has behaved. >> you have served in congress so i want to hear your opinion of president-elect trump's suggest he would try to prosecute his political

opponents. a report recommending that liz cheney be prosecuted by the fbi for her role in the committee investigating the january 6th attack. what are your thoughts? >> two thoughts rev. i think we need to take donald trump seriously. a lot of people will say he is joking around. this is just a strategy, a tactic. donald trump said that one of the reasons he was running was for vengeance so he has to be taken seriously. thousand he is now saying he will not be personally involved in going after anyone, he has also kind of given carte blanche to some of his nominees saying so and so will look into it if they think it is appropriate. there are a sufficient number of republicans still in congress who believe in american institutions, who want

to protect the integrity of our institutions so whatever trump's administration decides to do, if it is way out of bounds, i think you will see a pretty serious reaction from congress from members of both parties. >> all right thank you to you both. coming up, the legendary jazz man louis armstrong's beloved classics come back to life on broadway. the show's star joins me after the break. fter the break. mr. clean magic eraser... wow - where has this been my entire life? having to clean with multiple products is a hassle. with magic eraser... i use it on everyday messes. i even use it on things that i think are impossible to clean. you need mr. clean magic eraser in your life.

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my next guest is channeling one of the great icons of jazz music in a new broadway production. a wonderful world. the louis armstrong musical.

[ music ] [ singing ] >> reporter: ♪ and i think to myself, what a wonderful world. yes i think to myself. what a wonderful world. ♪♪ ♪ what a wonderful world! oh yeah! ♪♪ >> the show recounts armstrong's rise from his humble new orleans beginnings to become one of the most impactful musicians of the 20th

century and in between the history lessons are some of the jazz legend's greatest hits with dazzling jazz numbers, joining me now, james monroe iglehart who also codirected a wonderful world, the louis armstrong musical. >> yes. >> for those who have not seen the new show, tell us the basic story line and what do you expect people to take from it? >> the basic story line is watching louis as an older man and he is about to do this last concert. he starts recounting his life thinking about all the different decisions he makes and it is kind of like a metaphor saying jazz is about the choices you make in between the notes. and he looks at all his choices and realized at the end of his life, he is happy with the choices he made. if you are happy with the choices you made in your life, when you have had a wonderful

world. that's what we want people to leave with. when you look at your life, look at all the choices, the good, the bad, accept all the choices and standby them. and you can look at them and say yeah, look at what i did. you had a wonderful world of a life. >> explain the historical context of louis armstrong. he came before the civil rights movement. is considered one of the first crossover artists. what can you add about that? >> you know, before the term pop music became a thing, louis was pop usic. jazz was a style of music and he was the man who was the face of it. he brought, so many people knew about jazz. the guy who became the flag bearer of this new style of music created by african americans was louis armstrong. and he was loved by millions across the nation and across the world.

he can go places that other entertainers couldn't go to including white entertainers, he was loved by everyone and his musicality was so good kind of like the hip hop artists, he would win. he was truly one of the first pop stars of america. >> and he never lost his authenticity by people who knew him. i was close to james brown like a son. and james brown in his presence would only respect mr. armstrong because he never stopped being authentic. here is another clip of you and the ensemble singing another louis armstrong classic. [ music ] [ singing ] ♪ so

when you're smiling, keep on smiling, the whole world is smiling, the whole world's smiling, the whole world smiles with you! ha ♪♪ >> james, is there something about louis armstrong that we don't know? was his on stage persona the same as off stage as i said he was known as being authentic. have you found out anything that was different about him than the louis armstrong we saw on stage? >> reporter: yeah, the louis armstrong you see on stage is the entertainerment most people thought he was the sweet smiling older black guy. he was one of the realest brothers around. one of the realest black men

around. he cared for his people he cared for his community. you know. but folks saw him smiling and being with white entertainers and just assumed because white folks liked him, you know what happens with music today. if the white folks like you, all of a sudden oh, well, you're doing it for them. no, louis was louis. the same guy you saw on stage was off stage too. he just didn't cushion on cuss on stage. what you saw was what you got. he knew when it was time to perform and what words to say and what things to do. but the brother was a real brother. >> now i want to push in that amount of time. because one of the things i have heard from people like i said james brown and ore others

who knew louis armstrong, he supported civil rights when it came along. but he wasn't a crusader but he was a strong advocate of his people. don't let the grinning fool him. he was a strong man. >> he put his money where his mouth is. he says i don't go march because if i was to march and get hit in the mouth with a bottle i couldn't do my job so i support by putting my money where my mouth is so he supported financially civil rights and deferent things like that. just because he wasn't out there marching doesn't mean he wasn't a part of it. when it came down to it, when the little rock nine were, went through the persecution they went through trying to go to school, he did speak up and then all of a sudden, he was blacklisted but the man was there for civil rights and his people the entire time and he never stopped.

>> let me ask you this because you know because of your own storied career. tell us the audience around the country, the significance of a black success story on broadway. >> well, what people don't understand is that the black success story is an american success story. you know, america has this wonderful narrative that you can come from nothing and become anything. and that's what louis armstrong did. that's exactly what he did. it is just what he had to go through, he had to go through that american story through the black experience and there were so many different things he had to deal with that other people didn't have to deal with. but because of him, because of what he went through, i can do what i do. and we get to come to broadway and tell this story. oh my gosh i loved him in hello dolly and this and hear what his real story is and oh go, i had no idea that is what was going on. yeah, that's what he had to

deal with and that's what he went through. but just because you go through with a smile doesn't mean you haven't gone through things. it is just he always chose to look at the positive side of life. he said i'll let the music speak for me. he said a note is a note in any language and my music can reach anyone and that's what he wanted to do. to show the beauty of music and black music through his playing and musicianship and his singing. >> james monroe iglehart, star actor and codirector of a wonderful world. the louis armstrong musical now playing on broadway. thank you for being with us james. up next, our message for the holidays, stay with us. he holidays, stay with us. ♪♪ over 600,000 usps employees working in sync

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wednesday is christmas day. where people around the world celebrate the birth of christ. i always say that you can tell people's values by how they spend christmas day, those that are christians, and believe in the day. because christmas should not only be about what you get. but it should also be about what you give. i spend christmas day at national action network where i'm the president feeding homeless people and feeding seniors that may not have a family and giving toys to kids. because i believe the real spirit of christmas is giving and i look at those kids who look through the department store windows dreaming one day they could get some of those toys. or some of those gifts. i know because i was one of those kids. so i hope on christmas day you don't take the giving out. that you don't just see what's

there for you. that you do in the spirit of the baby in bethlehem try to raise your values to mean something. and then the next day, the 26th, starts seven days of kwanzaa, an african american tradition now that i also observe. before we go, i want to remind you tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc, we are airing the 14th annual revvie awards. we will celebrate the best and worst of politics in 2024 and give recognition to those who deserve it. that does it for me, thanks for watching. the saturday show with jonathan capehart starts after a short break. break.

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reliable 5g, plus wifi speeds up to a gig where you need it most. xfinity mobile. xfinity internet customers, ask how to get a free 5g phone and a second unlimited line free for a year. crisis averted. president biden has