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♪♪ we been through a lot together. these are vicious, horrible people. i call it the enemy from within. >> it's the enemy from within, all the scum we have to deal with that hate our country. that is a bigger enemy than china and russia. >> the enemy from within is a very sick group of people, i can tell you. i had to go through years of russia, russia, russia. they knew it was fake. we have an enemy from within, which i think is much more dangerous than the outside enemy. >> in the waning days of his presidential campaign, donald trump picked up the pace of

that refrain, the enemy from within, the enemy from within, he used it over and over again to describe what he calls a long list of his own political enemies, people who he believes wronged him in some way, disagreed with them, investigated him or his campaign, especially those who sought to hold him to account. and those who charged him with crimes. democrats, government officials, republicans, judges, news organizations, jurors, all of whom he said were, quote, more dangerous than any of america's foreign adversaries. now, with his selection of kash patel to lead the fbi, he has found someone who probably seems to share in the belief there are dangerous people inside our country. in government service, in the media and elsewhere. the peak back through patel's old interviews reveals frequently a long list of people he might go after, who, according to him, allegedly committed felonies. listen. >> the clappers and the brennan and the komi of the world will always live. when we are back in power, we will prosecute them for lying, which is a felony.

>> they committed felonies when it comes to destroying and suppressing evidence to law enforcement agencies. >> i think there are the lies told by cassidy hutchinson under oath. she is also subject to federal prosecution for lying under oath to federal officials. that is a felony. >> so, trump will have, if kash patel is confirmed by the united states senate, an fbi director ready to go and jump, perhaps, at the chance to prosecute trump's perceived political enemies with crimes in his words, felonies. we saw this week with house republicans releasing the report saying that former congresswoman liz cheney, who is likely at the top of trump's enemy from within list, should be prosecuted. we know some of them will be willing to do his bidding without any facts, without any reason. lying wrapped up in predication, maybe.

the flipside, new reporting from nbc news, finds something that didn't exist last time, a support network, of sorts, mobilizing around the public targets of trump and patel's iyer. quote, lawyers and pro- democracy advocates are in the early stages of building a nationwide network of specialists aimed at protecting people who may be targeted for retribution was president-elect donald trump takes office. that is according to multiple people involved in the upper. those working to create the infrastructure said in addition to lawyers, they are recruiting accountants to help people who may find their taxes under

audit, employment experts to advise those who could be fired or reassigned without cause, public relations professionals to assist anyone whose reputations might be tarnished by accusations and even psychologist to help potential targets manage the stress that comes with being in the federal government's crosshairs. that effort is where we start with our experts. formerly the investigator for the january 6 committee is here, also joining us is former acting attorney assistance general for the department of justice is here and president of media matters for america. angela, i love starting with you for many reasons, but chief among them is your granular understanding of what exactly is in black and white in writing in terms of their plans for using retribution with the fbi. not being paranoid, not projecting things but what is in the plan?

>> they wrote it down and they didn't just write it down, they then talked about it. part of what the strategy is, it is a bit of shock and awe. you go in right away and you fire as many people as you possibly can. even if you can't, you install as many loyalists, those that don't need to be given assignments of retribution because they already understand the assignment, they are going to do the assignment. that is what project 2025 was designed to do, give both the step-by-step guide on what has to happen out of the gate and then, organize the personnel to help execute that. it is worth keeping in mind, when we talk about kash patel as potentially the fbi director, he is not to be doing all the work himself. that will need to be assigned out to actual agents and people at the fbi. that is where this larger infrastructure comes into place. maga has been professionalized over the past few years via project 2025. that is how it turns, as you turn these agencies into an actual instrument of revenge. when you take that, you align

that with things patel has been saying publicly, the idea is, you're out there, find a couple individuals that will send a very clear message and you just investigate and you find one or two things you can really hang your hat on to to unravel these larger narratives. i don't think it is a coincidence they are going after january 6, one of the first things they need to show is that all of the attacks against trump over the past few years were all illegitimate because this entire january 6 thing was more than a hoax perpetuated by the media and democrats in order to serve as one of the bulwarks for the deep straight against -- deep state against donald trump. that is the message and pulled on top of a more professional operation. >> the other thing i was thinking about, angelo, where they may seek to, i don't even know the work, be more maniacal in their selections to lead u.s. attorneys offices. they met some resistance in the attorney who said he was investigating a case against kerry or greg craig, he writes about it in his book. they simply farmed it out to a more formidable office. it feels like they maybe have learned how to avoid those pockets of resistance?

>> that's exactly right. one of the things that patel has indicated very clearly is that most of the things that are done should no longer be, both the investigation side, as well as the prosecution side, you should avoid washington, d.c. as much as possible. in fact, you should move as much of the investigations out to offices across the country and, whenever you can, stretch the degree of jurisdiction and make prosecutions all across the country, as well, in friendlier jurisdictions, where the jury pool there is going to be more sympathetic to the story they are telling or maybe the target you're going after. it is not just in terms of the initiation of these

investigations and potential prosecutions, they have also thought about how to help them be successful on the back end, as well, but by finding more friendlier forums and jury pools. the part i find most disturbing in all of this is patel's particular understanding about not just these execution parts, but his relationship to the response. one of the things he bragged about was on true social is how they would take narratives from the qanon and weave them into their overall messaging because it helped to build support and kinetic energy and momentum for the stories they were telling. so, when you have somebody that understands how to tap into sort of this right-wing media machine and those fever swamps and how to sort of take these

little breadcrumbs you would get as a result of these investigations, you can start to see how it all comes together. you break the injustice so that is no longer one of the barriers or firewalls against injustice. you farm it out to as many friendly places as you can that are going to pursue these investigations, may be way outside the bounds of the norms. you initiate prosecutions in forearms where over the last year you have been using these bread cream -- breadcrumbs to tell the right-wing media to validate the already false narratives and conspiracies that has been going on and these people believe in you hand them a target served up on a platter and a prosecution that never would have taken place in the first place but now we are in a new reality, where there are all these components together. kash patel isn't just a key part of that, he is someone who keenly understands it. >> greg, senator murphy had an admission for the press and their coverage, which is fair, what congressman loudermilk sought to do, the fact-based accusations against liz cheney, they are worried it could become predicate for opening an investigation into her conduct on the january 6 select committee. your thoughts about what should happen and what could happen.

>> well i think it does seem it was basically fabricated in order to make a referral come from congress for a criminal investigation so that the incoming president can do the kind of thing he tends to do, which is a bit of a dodge and a wii. i am not going to direct investigations. these people may deserve to be investigated. this will be up to kash patel. congress seems to think they need to be investigated and so, i think it does provide some cover, at least from his perspective, plausible deniability that he is not the one directing any type of retribution. this is coming from congress, from the house, after an extensive, two year investigation. you know, there's another thing i worry about, besides the fact that potentially kash patel will find people within the fbi to actually launch these

investigations, but i always worry about the distraction of resources. fbi resources and potentially just as the department should be being investigated. we are certainly not at any low point when it comes to other types of national security threats, both terrorism threats, as well as espionage threats, threats from our adversaries, we certainly have other, just more traditional, domestic criminal cases that the fbi normally spends time on. thos trafficking and they include hate crimes. there are a lot of other things, a lot of other areas the fbi's vast resources should be deployed to. in addition to being concerned about baseless investigations, i am also concerned about just really dropping the ball when it comes to legitimate national security concerns and also

safety concerns. >> i share your worry, mary. there hasn't been a lot written about the first trump presidency that didn't detail trump constantly heckling bill marr and christopher wray, fabricating political prosecutions and investigations that had nothing to do with china, iran, russia and otherwise. have we seen any evidence that even if someone wanted to focus on those threats to u.s. national security, they would be undeterred by someone who is obsessed. i could have played for two hours all of his musing and fantasizing political revenge. >> i mean, i do think career men and women within the fbi, within the intelligence community, within the department of defense, the department of justice and other national security agencies, will be trying to keep up with the threats, wherever they may come from, abroad, and will be trying to take actions that they are, you know, authorized to take to try to mitigate those

threats. we will try to get the attention of the political appointees and, you know, i totally take your point and agree with you that certainly, the former president trump, his first time in office, did not seem open to want to take these things seriously, but there are people in government, i would even include some appointees, including appointees that have not been named yet. we focus so much on secretarial appointees and problems with nominees like pete hegseth, for example, certainly, with someone like kash patel. and john ratcliffe and others. concerns about those but there are many more we don't know. there is something about being

in that environment and seeing the threats come in every day. i will put donald trump aside. he certainly has threats with his presidential daily briefing presented to him every day. i don't know how much he listens to those presentations, but there are others who are in that all day, every day, who will appreciate, i do believe, will appreciate the seriousness and try to take them seriously and try to make sure adequate resources are put toward them. that is what i have to hope for. >> that is the best hope. we are scared enough about the actual intelligence, they will see it and not be influenced by anyone else and respond in american consistency in these agencies. let's talk about congressman loudermilk and what he has done. this also may have a degree of something personal involved. wasn't he also investigated for his office for conduct that included folks and visitors to his office taking some strange photos and touring? do i have

that right? >> yes, nicolle, you are exactly right. perhaps. i always hesitate to describe undue motivation to any public server and without evidence. it is certainly true that for a period of time, the select committee focused on a tour that representative loudermilk gave to some constituents, who ended up at the capitol the next day. if you recall, there was some allegation early on there had been members of congress that gave tours to rioters, that somehow were involved in collusion or conspiracy to help people prepare for an insurrection. candidly, we did not find evidence of that, of explicit agreement between members of congress and rioters, surveillance or towards that gave rise to that conductivity. we looked at it and we did not reach those conclusions that was said so. yes, he came to washington to participate in the ellipse rally and ended up at the capitol. this person was not a charged rioter who duly gave a tour to? did take photographs, this constituent come in the capitol

complex, in the office buildings, but we never concluded representative loudermilk did anything to aid an insurrection. with that said, the focus on him , yes, was unusual and was different from the other members of congress. he then is the person whose chairman of the subcommittee and is investigating the investigators. i have to say, reading his report, there is just absolutely no basis for the very serious allegations he makes against liz cheney, against chairman thompson and the committee, this notion of destroying records, it is just a complete fabrication. every official record of the select committee was maintained. the videos of witness interviews are not the official

record. the official record of those interviews is the transcript. those were all maintained. a handful of those, national security officials, secret service agents and aides with very sensitive positions in the white house, the biden white house, as a condition as our access to that said we could not make those interviews public and we had to return them. we got those transcripts so there has just been no hiding of information and the accusation and to liz cheney about somehow witness tampering. she was involved because of her credibility with witnesses, republican witnesses, allowing them to come forward. there is no way we would have as much success and access with people like cassidy hutchinson, bill barr or mike millie had it not been for liz cheney's credibility as a longtime republican. she has been seeking information from cassidy hutchinson that was not consistent with what she provided early and she explained the reason for that. she did not come forward because she was afraid to. it wasn't until she had independent counsel that she did.

liz cheney did not make that up. we heard from witnesses. i just think this allegation in the report should be referred for criminal prosecution, there is just no foundation whatsoever for that allegation. >> what is your sense of the bigger picture, of why liz and specifically her communications with cassidy hutchinson, are being manufactured as a potential predicate for investigation? >> look, i think ms. cheney has been a very outspoken critic of the president. she was very, very visible as the vice chair of our committee. as a result, she attracts a lot of attention. there is no question she was vitally involved in our investigation. she is a good lawyer. she asked good questions and she was personally very involved in the day-to-day work of the committee. that is what we should expect from a public servant. she did the right thing by doing her best to try to get the facts and circumstances that

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i think it's pretty clear we have avoided a recession. i think growth this year has been solid. the u.s. economy has just been remarkable and we have these international meetings that i attend, this has been the story, how well the u.s. is doing. if you look around the world, there is just a lot of slow growth and continuous struggles with inflation. so, i feel very good about where the economy is and the force of the economy. >> that was federal reserve chair jerome powell with that glowing report on the u.s. economy yesterday and how inflation has eased significantly over the past two years. that is why powell was able to announce another quarter point cut to the national interest rate, the third consecutive cut for the year 2024. the fed also did something

else. it signaled it will make fewer of these interest rate cuts in the next year. that inflation will still linger in 2025. that sent stocks tumbling. it also probably pushed powell closer to the top of donald trump's 2025 enemies list. but for the fed in the economy, the reality is what happens next under the trump administration is frankly, anyone's gas at all the uncertainty, shown by yesterday, should come in a normal world, be reality check for trump about how any of this, the economy he care so much about, how it works by the fed chair. what president has a specific authority as well as the damage his proposed mass deportations and steve tariffs could do to the economy. joining our conversation is cnbc senior national correspondent and senior business correspondent. um, i felt this way when i first sought -- saw powell say the question and he said,

no, they said why, he said it was against the law. i thought, wow, this could be the friction point. it was between trump and the fbi, trump and the doj. 2.0, this could be a friction point. does the fed see it that way? >> that crisp no and that chair powell said i will not leave if you asked me to leave, do you think legally he could make you leave? no prame and no, move on. it has been very clear they are the inflation fighter and that is the most important thing here and they are independent. presidents would like low interest rates because it boosts the economy and it makes them look better. his job is to have inflation under control and maximum employment. he has said again and again that is the fed's goal. the top part now, he is

acknowledging inflation still is and vanquished. the economy is good, really good. they can sit back. they don't have to cut interest rates. that could be something the president-elect does not like next year. >> what is your sense of how much they anticipate interest rates being a political cudgel that trump tries to wield on a day-to-day basis? >> well look, i mean, donald trump is definitely a low interest rate guy. he has said that. the state of play here right now is that trump has said he believes he has the authority to fire powell if he wants to but he doesn't want to write yet. that is what he is asserting. he does have that authority but has never been tested in the courts. it is a gray area if a president can push out a fed

chair who doesn't want to go if it is not for cause and the question is, what would jerome powell do if trump says, it is time for you to go? he struck a very defiant tone, as you point out. it is not illegal under the law and jerome powell, as we know, is someone who adamantly supports independence of the fed and is willing to fight for that and dig in his heels. trump has a lot of options here. he could do something like announce in advance who his next chair nominee would be. that sort of hobbles j powell's ability with the markets. a lot of financial questions would go to the other person is who is now speaking for trump and powell would have less ability to speak to markets going forward. there are ways for trump to undermine powell short of firing him, but i think you are right, this is a potential friction point going into 2025. >> let me show you what said -- powell said yesterday about trump's stated policies . if possible, his stated policies don't become actual policies but this is what we know. >> we just really don't know much anymore about the actual policy. it is very premature to try to come to any conclusion. no idea if it will be retaliatory tariffs. we just need to take the time and not rush and make a very

careful assessment. the only one we have seen, what the policies are and how they are implemented. >> it is the $64 million question. we don't know much about the actual policies. you know, historically, neither does anyone at the white house because some of them are made up as trump takes in information and passes through fox news, who knows if it will be another podcast or another place this time around but traditionally, there has not been a policy process. how do the markets respond to that? it is so interesting because jerome powell was asked again and again about tariffs, deportations, tax cuts and deregulation and how these things would affect the economy. he so steadfastly does not want to talk about those things

until they happen and he would take a case-by-case. it is sort of like reporters are pulling him into this conversation. he does not want to talk about hypothetical with trump. trump himself has said, you know, tax cuts and tax cuts mean and deficits mean the u.s. will be issuing more bonds. you know, they're all these things that will be happening that could really be inflationary and really disruptive to the american economy next year. at a point right now where the economy is pretty solid overall, we just don't know what exactly will happen. >> we do know there is no prame sort of vanity on trump's trump like a strong economy. i guess people hope , is that sort of the talk? >> yes, he uses the stock market as his own personal scorecard for only taking the credit, never the blame. presidents get too much credit and too much blame, i believe, for the stock market and the economy. there is this feeling there will be some sort of countermeasure to what his instincts are next year if the market moves. donald trump has said everybody is wrong with the tariffs that they are inflationary and they are attacks. he just won't listen to any

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♪♪ in the words of our next guest, quote, it's happening right in front of her eyes. the first shots being fired against the pillars of our democracy and the rule of law with donald trump. events in the last few days showing how quickly the democratic experiment will be tested. that is all happening, even before donald trump is sworn in. there is the case study in advance as professor timothy snyder puts it. turkey or russia this time but right here. scores a business leader seemingly determined to curry favor with donald trump. donald trump using civil litigation to pursue any media outlet or anyone who displeases him, even a poster who came out with a shock poll at the end of

the november election. as we witnessed media outlets absorb those flows, headline speak for themselves. cnn writing this, quote, emboldened by abc's settlement, trump threatens more lawsuit against the press. pbs wrote it this way, quote, abc new settlement with trump raises concerns about the press freedom in the second term. all of this is happening in public. out in the open, in front of her eyes. the seed has been planted for the retribution against the most outspoken and prominent critics of donald trump that he promised. on tuesday, house republicans released a report calling for january six mark -- january 6 committee member liz cheney to be bs divided by the fbi that she colluded with star witness chassis -- cassidy hutchinson without her attorney's knowledge to change her testimony. the republicans claim it was witness tampering. that report is the kerosene donald trump is the match. he posted late last night that

cheney could, quote, be in a lot of trouble. this is, of course, after he promised during his campaign for her to be tried in a military tribunal. cassidy hutchinson's attorney telling nbc news that the claim that hutchinson colluded with cheney is, quote, preposterous, adding this, quote, ms. hutchinson made the independent decision to part ways with her trump funded lawyer, freeing her to provide candid, truthful and honorable testimony to the january 6 committee about the attack on the capitol, alongside dozens of republican witnesses and law enforcement officers. cheney released a blistering statement of her own on this report and its accusations. we will read it to you in full. it says this, quote, january 6 show donald trump or who he really is, a cruel and vindictive man who allow violent attacks to continue

against our capitol and law enforcement officers while he watched on television and refused for hours to instruct his supporters to stand down and leave . the january 6 committee's hearings and report featured scores of republican witnesses, including many of the most senior officials from trump's own white house, campaign and administration. although this testimony was painstakingly set out in thousands of pages of transcripts may public along with a highly detailed and meticulously sourced 800 page report. the department of justice conducted its own independent investigation and reached the same fundamental conclusions. now, chairman loudermill's interim report, intentionally disregards the truth of the select committee's tremendous weight of evidence and instead fabricates lies and defamatory allegations in an attempt to cover up what donald trump did. the allegations do not reflect a review of the actual events and are malicious and cowardly ended assault on the truth. no reputable lawyer, legislator war judge would take this seriously. the facts never stopped donald

trump and his allies. here is lara trump reacting to the loudermilk report. >> what they have perpetrated on the american people on this january 6 hoax is absolutely terrible and it is a stain on our country's history. these people ought to be ashamed of themselves. i know they aren't, so we will go ahead and shame them. we will go ahead and make sure they never forget that history recalls every single day from now till forever what these people did and the way they personally and single-handedly try to destroy this country. thank goodness, god is good and he always shows us and shines a light in the dark places. this is just the beginning. if you think this is good, wait until donald trump gets in there and wait until kash patel and tulsi gabbard get in there.

>> this is just the beginning. democratic senator from connecticut, senator, thank you for being here. >> yeah, thanks for having me. >> you inspired a lot of our approach to these headlines today. you knitted them together before we did so i will let you expand on your thoughts and share the it on social media. >> i appreciate it. i just think the last four days has been really important. you are seeing how this plan is going to work and it's just going to be on hyperdrive once he becomes president so there are a lot of countries in the world that technically have elections but are not real democracies.

the reason they are not real democracies is because the opposition become so weak out of fear of criminal prosecution and the press becomes so cowed by the regime, there is actually not a real choice in any of these elections. trump has been telling you of the last four days exactly how he will do that. this effort to lineup a criminal prosecution of liz cheney, it is a clear signal that if you cross him, you could end up in jail. no one is going to stop him because this time around he has the department of justice that doesn't care about the law. he's got a director of the fbi who believes trump's political opponents should be in jail and he's got enough judges that are maga loyalists that they might actually work the rules to put liz cheney and others in jail. you put side-by-side with that this lawsuit against the "des moines register", totally baseless, but, really, just designed to intimidate the press and refrain them from criticizing donald trump, or in this case, not even commissioning a poll that might have bad news for trump and might give some oxygen to his political opposition.

in countries where that happens, where the opposition fears going to jail so they stay home and the press doesn't tell the truth because they fear consequences, democracy dies. it just does. you still have elections, but the opposition is so weak they can never win. trump, over the last four days, is showing you that plant he has to suppress the opposition and suppressed the press . so far, he has had stunning success, even before he gets going. >> what is the remedy, at this point, if he has put so many cards on the table and received the desired response, actually wielding any constitutional power. >> yeah, i think the most important remedy right now is for this not to be normalized. i read all the headlines about liz cheney's criminal referral yesterday. in almost every single one of them, in mainstream media, it played this straight as if this was a normal, regular function of legislative power.

instead of telling the truth, which is, this is made up out of thin air. there is not even a shred of a crime committed here. if you read the headlines astray, you thought liz cheney actually did something criminally wrong. so, as leaders, we can't accept this is normal. as journalists, you can't accept this is normal. the minute we pretend this is a normal exercise of executive power is the day people give up fighting. we have these fights coming, pam body and kash patel, we should fight, as democrats, like democracy is on the ballot because it is. we don't show outrage right now, then the public is going to just accept this is a normal circumstance of present-day democracy. showing some fight right now, both in the private sector and amongst elected officials is really important. ♪ ♪ ly important. ♪ ♪ helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol. the brand i trust.

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there has to be some form. >> well he has always said what he wants to do to women, punish them. that was donald trump's now infamous response during a campaign town hall in 2016 that he believes and doubles in there with chris matthews on punishing women who have abortions. now it looks like he is putting the people into place it will do that for him. trump has announced he will appoint ed martin, the author of the rnc platform that life begins at conception to be chief of staff of the office of management and budget agency entrusted with implementing donald trump's project 2025 agenda. his views are so extreme you should hear them for yourself. >> i certainly think that you're going to find a lot of people that step away from jail time. because they're gonna say, well, this is -- but if you

believe it is a baby, i do, then you have to do something to protect the baby. the late phyllis shively, whom i worked so closely with, used to say, if you get the claimant frame the argument, you must certainly get the win. in other words, if you take their framing it is a woman's right, you put women in jail? no. it's about a baby. now what do we do? framing the argument, on the argument. what are the most common exceptions call for is an exception to abortion laws in cases where the mother's life is at risk. i'm entirely opposed to this language. it's an absolute scientific fact that no abortion is ever performed to save the life of the mother. none, zero, zilch. >> wow. no exceptions for the life of the mother. he somehow managed, if you can get someone to save your life, if martin has his way, they will put you in prison. it should not be surprising that antiabortion arguments have intensified with the persecution of women and doctors on friday. texas attorney general tim -- will bring in our panel. what are your thoughts?

>> i mean, this is project 2025 coming to life, nicolle. this is everything we warmed about -- warned about and screamed about that just everybody in the country recognize. these guys of the extremist architects of some of the most cruel policies in this country. you know, ed martin didn't just say the quiet part out loud, he is a right-wing talk radio host. he briefly proclaimed it out loud. so anyone who thought for five seconds a donald trump would look to moderate his tune, they were certainly sorely mistaken. the thing that the work we are seeing in the field postelection that is important for us to remember though, is that not all americans understood or still understand that the trump administration, all these appointees, are so radical on abortion. he said he wants to leave it to

the stage. what we have to do is educate people about ed martin and other appointees that are deeply problematic, but also explained to them why the office of management and budget has anything to do with abortion and why this is so dangerous. it is not obvious on its face. >> this is about a rape victim that was 10 years old. >> the true bane of the pro- life movement is the faction of fake pro-lifers who claim to

believe in the sanctity of human life, but are only willing to vote that way with a list of exceptions. >> the surrender story in ohio where a 10-year-old child was raped , this 10-year-old was brought up as an example of why abortion is necessary. now, i have said over and over again, that, you know, the examples that shouldn't be the rule, right? you can't let the exceptions be the rule. especially when you get engaged in debate. i refuse to do it. i refused. >> his refusal to get engaged in a debate to save a 10-year- old rape victim, what happens to them if it is donald trump's america? nothing. they get to live out their misery, the consequences of those right-wing extremists and what they believe a 10-year-old rape victim should face. the critical difference between a trump administration, as we are seeing a play out and abide in-harris administration we are seeing come to an end is at the biden-harris administration was willing to use every tool in their toolbox of every arm and the government from doj to hhs, et cetera, and to advance reproductive freedom and intervene when states were overreaching, like such cases as emergency medical care in idaho, the case that is in court or when their own authority with the fda in terms of medication abortion. we are now witnessing, not just an absence of activity from the federal government, but

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