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it's the 14th annual revvie awards. it's where we celebrate the best and worst of politics in 2024 and give awards to those who deserve it. as you all know, it's been a crazy year, wild enough to question whether even to do a revvie's, but then i remembered i've been here before. let me take you back for a moment. 2006 was so ugly, the presidential race was so ugly. i don't even know if we should
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have the revvie's. >> i think you should scrap the revvie's. who wants to celebrate after a year like this? >> yeah. you think so? >> you're not going to listen to that debbie downer, are you? >> now who's that? >> it's me, sharpton. don't pay little al any mind. >> it's true. it's been a rough year. >> it hasn't been easy, but people love the revvies, the good, bad and everything in between. you can't let it go, rev. >> well, when you put it like that. >> hmmm, you know what, sharpton? i think you're right. i know you're worried, little al, but we'll get through this. we can come together. the show must go on. it was the right decision for
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the show to go on then and it's the right decision for us to proceed now. so without further adieu, let's bring in our esteemed panel, republican strategist susan delpersio, democratic strategist basil smichael and the host of way too early and starting in january the official co-host at msnbc's morning joe, jonathan lamere. good to have you with us. let's get right to our first revvie, the biggest political headline of the year, my first nominee in that area would be, of course, donald trump, trump 2.0. love him or hate him, donald trump pulled off undoubtedly one of the biggest political comebacks in american history winning back the presidency in spite of 34 felony convictions and two attempts on his life.
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my second pick, the unexpected candidacy of kamala harris. it's fair to say no one came into the year expecting vice president harris to wind up as the first ever black female presidential nominee, but that's exactly what happened when president joe biden decided to end his reelection bid in july and while harris would come up a bit short, her 107 day candidacy no doubt will leave a lasting impact on the political scene and my final nominee for the story of the year is the economy, stupid. while the contrast between the candidates in this year's presidential contest couldn't be clearer, the exit poll suggests americans had inflation on their mind as they cast their ballots. it turned out the price of eggs may have had more impact than any speech or attack ad.
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let's turn to my panel to get your thoughts on your three top stories of the year. let's start with you. >> i would go with donald trump, yes, because he won and that was big, but really because of the first assassination attempt. we haven't see anything like that, for the country to go through that. i think it really jolted things and i think it really jolted trump supporters and may be what carried him through, frankly, to the finish line. >> i can't give it to donald trump because i just can't elevate someone who talked about what haitians eat more than the price of eggs. so i have to talk about kamala harris because back in february i wrote why she would be the democratic weapon, not necessarily that she would end up being the nominee, but that
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she had a huge real to play in this election cycle and considering the ways in which people got activated in day one, tens of thousands of women that got on the phone, raised over $1 million, three times the capacity of madison square garden. that kind of energy and enthusiasm, hadn't seen in a long time. someone as cynical as me sometimes got enthusiastic and engaged. so i have to acknowledge that and sort of lift that up as my story of the year. >> jonathan. >> it's hard for me not to pick the comeback of the donald trump to think about where he was when he left office two weeks after january 6th slinging out of the white house and instead he remains the top voice in the republican party and this past year though he fended off primary challengers with ease. he maintained his grip on the party. he was convicted of a crime, the first ex-president ever to do, that but he and his lawyers played the stall game, delay
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tactics and he managed to come out of that triumphant. the fate of that conviction is up in the air and the other cases because he won have all gone away. the assassination attempts, two of them, in fact, he survives those and to emerge after what he put the country through for four years and to not tamp down his rhetoric, in fact, to lean in on his divisive politics to come out with more votes this time around for the first time winning the popular vote. it is one of the most remarkable political comebacks this nation or any nation has ever seen. >> time to talk about the heroes and heels of 2024. my first pick for hero of the year is house minority leader hakeem jeffries. jeffries is a returning champion who once again this year held the democratic caucus together on issues like the budget, like immigration, and foreign aid while republicans bickered among themselves and
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in an election that seemed stacked against democrats hakeem and the party managed to net one seat in the house of representatives, narrowing the republicans' lead to just five seats. it could set up a midterm election where jeffries could be poised to become the first black speaker of the house of representatives in this country's history. my other heroes? democratic senate candidates who won in swing states while the presidential race didn't turn out the way democrats hoped. the party scored some victories down ballot in the battleground states. senators tammy baldwin of wisconsin and jackie rosen of nevada held onto their seats while alicia slotkin and ruben gallego won open contests in michigan and arizona respectively. thanks to their victories,
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republicans take back the senate with only a very narrow margin of 53 seats to 47 and as for the heels, my first nominee is former congressman and former florida man matt gaetz. gaetz's bid to become trump's next attorney general didn't even last a full scarmucci. now the big mystery is whether the findings of the house ethics investigation into gaetz's questionable conduct will ever see the light of day and we can't forget about vice president-elect j.d. vance. even if trump has vance brought a fling presence into this year's race whether he was insulting women or accusing haitian migrants of eating cats, unfortunately, for vance after a shaky rollout as running mate, he seems to have
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lost his status as trump's top lap dog to the doge man himself, elon musk. basil, i'll start with you. what heroes and heels stood out to you this year? i saw you nodding. i felt like i was in church with an amen coming up on one or two of the things i said. >> you were absolutely right about hakeem jeffries. he's any hero. the way in which from the moment that he became minority leader to be able to hold the democratic caucus in line that way and to be able to go not just into new york, but other states to really look at how to strengthen those parties to be able to lift the entire ballot, i mean i think it shows not only his intentionality around kind of coming away from nancy pelosi's shadow, but also trying to drive the sort of younger generational message to democrats. now it remains to be seen if there are other voices. i may have something to say about aoc in a minute, but
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there is something very refreshing about hakeem jeffries being able to take on this role. it's a great sign of the future for the party. in terms of heels, i would say j.d. vance in part because of the comments that he made about haitians. i also say he has been forthright -- >> for people who don't know, he accused people in ohio of eating -- haitians, not just people, haitians of eating animals. >> that's exactly right. so he would be my heel because it's, number one, a reminder that those kinds of tropes and that kind of racism is still with us and it still works. so the point about donald trump's language, it still works and knowing that, embracing that, he decided to lean into it. i also say one thing very quickly, he has been at the forefront of talking about closing down nonprofits he feels are the enemies of american people. a little known bill that's
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passed the house, h.r. 9495 that gives the department of treasury perhaps more unfettered ability to a nonprofit's tax exempt status away. it's something to look at going forward. >> absolutely dangerous. jonathan. >> i agree on hakeem jeffries being a hero and what he represents and generational change. it's clearly coming for democrats with aoc, jamie raskin. we're seeing a number of house committees where younger, fresher faces are stepping to the floor and as a preview of what i think 2028 will look like as well with a number of younger governors, whether it's whitmore, shapiro or maybe harris makes another run at it and she deserves credit for doing as best as anyone could have in 107 days. for heel you can never go wrong with matt gaetz who remains having one of the more
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punchable faces in politics, but i'm adding one more name that a lot of viewers won't love, channeling what democrats say right now, joe biden, president joe biden, also his decision to stay in the race for as long as he did, to have the debate performance that he did as democrats are sifting through what happened on election day, so many of them telling me -- and these are people who think he's a great president and good man -- but say his decision to stay in as long as he did may have doomed the party. it's a category for next year. >> susan. >> i'm going to go with it didn't make a difference for vice president harris, but the republicans, especially liz cheney, who stood up and said i am bucking the party publicly and she put it out there. there were a lot of republicans who said i have a problem with donald trump. i can't vote for him. that wasn't enough. to say you were going to vote
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for the vice president and it was adam kinzinger and a lot of others, but i think at least for me when you kind of talk the hero, there are people in my party that were the minority but still believe in governance and doing the right thing. >> heel. >> in some ways i would say the flip of that would be nikki haley for calling out trump during the primaries the way she did and she didn't end up doing anything to help harris and she played it's silly with trump like she was in and out. i think that it's just, frankly with, someone who wants to have a career in politics, she didn't step up. >> yeah. all right. we're just getting started here. coming up, my panel and i will discuss the nominees for a brand-new revvies category, the best and worst celebrity cameos in a u.s. presidential campaign. as we go to break, a look back at some of the funniest
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welcome back to the world famous rockefeller center in new york city and the 14th annual revvie awards. here again is your host, reverend al sharpton. >> welcome back to the 2024 revvies. i'm here with our panel, political strategist susan del percio and jonathan lemire. this election was a star studded affair, but some shone
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more brightly than others. here are my nominees for the best and worst celebrity cameos in a u.s. presidential campaign. my first nominee for the best cameo goes to beyonce. from the moment kamala harris chose freedom as her theme song there was buzz that queen bey would voice her support for the vice president, didn't happen at the convention as rumored, but finally in late october beyonce gave her endorsement at a houston rally where she's from, not as a usual diva as she showed up, but as a mother focused on preserving reproductive rights for her own daughter. >> i'm not is here as a celebrity. i'm not is here as a politician. i'm here as a mother, a mother who cares deeply about the
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world my children and all of our children live in, a world where we have the freedom to control our bodies, a world where we're not divided. our past, our present, our future merge to lead us here. >> mid-runner-up for the best cameo goes to atlanta rapper lil jon who did a pop-up at the democratic convention to the memorable hype up from the georgia delegation and revealed that his hit song "get low" has been about minnesota governor tim walz the entire time. starting with you, jonathan, was there any celebrity endorsement this year that you thought was especially
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effective? >> i'm going the other way and say the worst celebrity endorsement was tony hinchcliffe, the comedian who appeared with donald trump at the rally at madison square garden, who made a series of offensive jokes including most notably suggesting puerto rico was an island of garbage that for a few days there seemed like it really might derail things for trump. he went into that moment riding high in the polls. the msg rally was meant to be sort of a victory lap and instead there were days of rare controversy that stuck with trump. unfortunately for democrats it didn't turn out to be the differencemaker they hoped, but it sort of in the last week or two i think importantly focused again on how donald trump and our president-elect sort of endorses this sort of incendiary offensive rhetoric and often uses it himself. >> give me the flip. what was the best cameo? >> i do think beyonce was effective how she chose to. i was at the dnc in chicago. there was great disappointment
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when she didn't show up. it was so widely rumored she was going to be there. to speak there as a mother and to put front and center the idea of abortion healthcare rights, reproductive rights as such a key issue for this election, though it wasn't the ultimate deciding factor, it's one i think will shape elections for years to come. >> susan, your best and your heel. >> the best i thought was michelle obama in late october in michigan at the rally she did, talking about women's reproductive rights, but in such a heartwrenching way almost, really appealing just to men and saying you have to take care of the women in your life and she spoke about women's body parts that people don't use that language. she was so effective and just really came out in my opinion just as a way to speak to everyday women who are going through a lot of issues and to
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get people excited. >> now i'm coming to you, basil, but i also want to bring in who i feel were the worst celebrity camera a cameos. kid rock won republicans' hearts when he started attacking light beer brands for being too woke and it's pretty clear that not too many of them delved very deeply into the detroit rapper's rock disc otography. >> hello, america. i need everybody to stand up. >> his performance of american bad-at the republican convention in milwaukee threw a lot of blank stares from the donors and delegates in contend answer, but even kid rock couldn't compete with the six
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time wwe champion hulk hogan. >> they tried to kill the next president of the united states. enough was enough and i said let trump mania run wild, brother. >> trump's pitch to young gen z men strangely centered around a retired septogenarian wrestler. in spite of it, the hulkster couldn't stay on message. a month after his memorable speaking at the republican convention, hogan was spotted chugging beers at a dive bar in ohio threatening to body slam kamala harris. what's the worst celebrity
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pitch you heard this year? >> that was pretty bad and i grew up watching wrestling like hulk hogan, special delivery jones. these were like heroes of mine as a kid. i knew his sort of political leanings and heard him talk before. so i had grown in my disappointment kind of how he presents. i think his name is terry. so for all of the conversation that conservatives have about people not wanting to use certain pronouns or want to be addressed certain ways, we've grown up addressing terry as hulk hogan and so, you know, for him to come and sort of present this bravado on this toxic masculinity, i was like it's bad. it works for them, but it was just -- i was like i don't want to see this. >> you really know your wrestling. >> the same way i didn't want to see clint eastwood talk about barack obama as an empty chair. i was like come on. we didn't need that. still ahead, some historic
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milestones for social justice in 2024. we have more of the revvies coming up for you and more light hearted moments from the year. >> thank you for coming to visit me in my cage at the zoo. i'm really enjoying these post court press conferences in this very weird and depressing hallway. i don't like being in court because they say very mean things about me while i am trying to sleep. >> the 14th annual revvie awards will be right back. one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc.
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trump returning to the white house is a huge historic comeback for someone who literally never went away. of course, trump's already super busy. first he's got to move all those classified documents into the white house. >> we are back to "politics nation," 14th annual revvies with susan del percio, basil smikle and jonathan lemire. the struggle for social justice never takes a year off and while there were some electoral and legal setbacks, 2024 also saw its share of historic milestones that i
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wanted to highlight. for the first time in our nation's history, americans elected two black women to serve in the senate at the same time, angela alsobrooks of maryland and lisa blunt rochester of delaware, both winning their races doubling the all time number of black female senators to just four. we should all rise up to make sure their representation and achievement is just the beginning. also this year california formally apologized for slavery, the most popular state of the country passing a bill as part of a legislative package aimed at repairing decades of systemic discrimination and it could represent a first step toward actual reparations. 2024 is the 60th anniversary of the passage of the civil rights act. in my capacity as head of the
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national action network, i marked the occasion alongside vice president kamala harris at the essence music festival in new orleans. just three weeks later harris' unexpected candidacy for president would begin. basil, your thoughts on social justice this year? >> you know, i thought a lot about shirley chisolm. i probably have not heard her name mentioned more in an election year than we did this year. >> yeah. >> so when you think about the progress that kamala harris as made, that angela alsobrooks and lisa rochester as made, when you think about the legacy of them running for office, breaking through the glass ceiling, my head had been a lot around thinking about shirley chisolm in this particular year, but with respect to social justice broadly, there's something to be said about the fact that we've been talking about hakeem and that we've been talking about the fact
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that there's so much attention being placed on what donald trump said and the reaction from voters and the question for me going forward, this was a moment where race and social justice came to the forefront, but where do we go now? so that's kind of what i'm thinking about, but the fact that, you know, we had two african american women serving at the same time in the year kamala harris was elected and able to energize folks in a way we haven't seen in a long time, my mind immediately went to shirley chisolm. >> i youth director of campaign for president when i was 17 years old. we used to call her ms. c. jonathan. >> i think that the candidacy of vice president harris and its historic nature. interestingly what she didn't actually put at the forefront, she didn't tell the story all the time about what her election would have meant, but it clearly meant a lot to a lot
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of people and it resonated. yes, she fell a little short of the white house, it's still remarkable and this is a nation that will have to grapple with inherent issues of racism, sexism. could a candidate like her win in another cycle? we'll have to see. i think it's a step in the right direction. i also do agree that it's worth noting the 60th anniversary of the civil rights act. it's something that we are far -- and reverend sharpton, you say it better than anyone about how much more we have to go. we should take stock of the progress we've made to this point as a nation. >> susan. >> i agree with the gentlemen to my left and saying yes, the two women of color elected to the u.s. senate and having harris on the ticket sent such a powerful message to young girls. that's in so many ways why this is so important to say i can be that and the opportunities that it opens up in their minds. yes, they still have to fight
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for it unfortunately harder than a lot of others, but i think that just sets great precedent for us going forward. >> even when you have to fight for it, i learned growing up as an activist, that the fact that you see it gives you the energy to know that you're not fighting in vain. you can achieve it. just fight for it. okay. stay with us. up next, our favorite, the blueberry pie award. we'll be right back. >> i always wanted to work at mcdonald's, but i never did. i love mcdonald's. i love jobs. i like to see good jobs. >> i love what he said i always wanted to work at mcdonald's with a straight face. oh, do you? no one is stopping you, bro. i noticed you didn't get an application on the way out. maybe you can get a job jumping out of the ball pit and scaring kids. >> the annual revvie awards will be right back.
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nation's" 14th annual revvies and it's time for a "politics nation" favorite, the alfred c. sharpton blueberry pie lifetime achievement award. every year we look around and ask who has the most blueberry pie on their face? well, north carolina lieutenant governor mark robinson gets a heaping helping of pie, not only for including me in his racist and sexist rants online, but for running a gubernatorial campaign so toxic that even donald trump distanced himself from it. with robinson's political career all but finished, perhaps in the new year he can return to his role as nudeafrica.com's most prolific post. >> there we go. >> next, amazon founder jeff bezos can expect his pie slice within two days of his prime
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subscription is paid up. bezos sparked outrage in washington in the "washington post" newsroom when he spiked the editorial board's planned endorsements of kamala harris putting an ironic twist on the paper's slogan democracy dies in the darkness. turns out post readers would get the last word. 250,000 of them canceled their subscriptions and i will take my final slice of pie and split it up into two thinner pieces for elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. it turns out it takes not just one, but a pair of internet trolls to head up a task force aimed at making government more efficient. a final report from the doge committee which has no actual governmental authority isn't supposed to come out until
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americans' 250th birthday on july 4th , 2026, by which time i'm fairly certain donald trump won't be on speaking terms with either one of these guys. panel, what's your feeling? who is your first nominee for the blueberry pie award? >> mark robinson. i think he gets like three pies. the things he said and denied and just -- and by the way, it's worth noting he won a primary. he won a primary. >> and he was lieutenant governor. >> exactly, lieutenant governor. so he deserves like maybe even a half a dozen pies. >> i'd say robinson, but sort of a b to that, tim scott and all these other black leaders who were out there for donald trump in ways that one would say why are you doing so much, like you're doing too much and i'm wondering when they got out of it at the end of the day.
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>> so are they. >> exactly right. >> especially with the cabinet picks. >> for all of what you just did and said and for the ways in which you tried to distance yourself from one community to be part of another, what did you really get for that? >> i'll pick a crew of republican officials. we have seen so many times in the last almost decade now with republicans embarrass themselves in order to win favor for donald trump, to prostrate themselves for himself. we were talking at the break of donald trump's criminal trial in manhattan how a number of elected officials, including burgum, a governor of his state, showing up in matching red ties in a show of support they say for donald trump, a pie upon all their faces. >> anybody else comes to mind that we didn't hit because i know mark robinson was a favorite 2-1, but i think you're right bringing up -- i mean they dressed like they were the backup singers at an
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oldies rock concert at a criminal court proceeding. we're talking about court where you're dealing with 34 felony indictments at that time that became convictions. how do you act like this is some kind of theatrical sideshow? >> an embarrassing display. let's take a moment more on elon musk, the world's richest man, who in some ways also prostated himself for donald trump and unlike republicans will probably get something out of this and maybe the doge committee will go nowhere, but already his wealth has increased dramatically. as a businessman, the trump administration coming in to deregulate, get rid of safety regulations and the rest, that will pay off maybe not for his political clout, but his bottom line. >> i'm going to put it a placer on 2025 because it will be marjorie taylor greene because she's on the doge committee,
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oversight committee, which really doesn't have any oversight because its a nongovernment bit. >> correct. >> but she is going to do everything possible to make hay of that. >> how long does this romance between elon musk and donald trump last because donald trump does not like to be overshadowed and elon musk seems to be showing up everywhere, almost like he's the co-president? >> that's why when donald trump was nominating rfk jr., they were in a room together and he said, you know, i love you. you're very popular. don't get more popular than me, but i love you, right? which shows his personality, right? he'll be with you until he's not, but the minute you start to overshadow him he's going to have a problem with you and that is likely to happen. >> when he wakes up and realizes he really can't run again, it's his last performance on stage, he's going to want it all. >> that's right. okay. stay with us. coming up, my political panel
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looks into their crystal ball to predict what will happen in 2025. don't go anywhere. >> i'm telling you, steve, she's going to be horrible at this game. she's a very low iq person. the whole world is laughing at her because they don't respect her like they respected me. >> okay. the fact is donald trump likes dictators, all right? because anyone can manipulate him simply through flattery. >> that's simply not true. it's not true. >> okay. you look handsome tonight. >> i love her. isn't she great? she's got my vote. mhm. why are you shimmying? oh! unstopables now has odor blocker so i'll feel fresh all day, even after a red eye. we all use unstopables. looks like he does to! smell unstopable. ♪ i wanna hold you forever ♪ hey little bear bear. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm gonna love you forever ♪
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thank you, thank you. all right. i just pounded a celsius. let's do this. woo! woo! woo! all right. okay. mr. speaker, too slow. >> we are back for our final segment of this great show looking ahead at th predictions and what our panel thinks 2025 will be like. jonathan, why don't we go to you first? >> i think 2025 will be a real challenge to the nation's democracy. donald trump will take office just 20 days into the new year.
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i suspect he will think he comes to the white house with a mandate and will try to implement his agenda and will almost certainly overreach and i think we've all talked about in these months since he won how democrats and those who voted against trump have been despondent. there hasn't been the energy or outrage there was eight years ago, at least not yet, but i suspect when trump starts with the agenda, particularly if it is these nasty deportations, that will change and people will take to the streets and protest. >> basil. >> i take what you said and agree and add a level of chaos to it. so it might be hard for him to actually govern, but i would remind folks the heritage foundation has a vested interest in getting that project 2025 implemented in 180 days. so amidst a lot of the chaos that might exist, there is going to be an actual infrastructure in place to make sure that those things you're talking about that many see as
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a threat to our democracy are actually being implemented. i'll just say very quickly one of pot things that i think we may see out of this are additional voices trying to sort of bring the democratic party into a new place. there's a great place in politico about aoc. whether ideologically she's the person that takes us there, i don't know, but generationally i think she'll get the party from where it is now where a lot of people think it's too elitist to bring in the sort of grassroots and try to reform it from within. >> susan. >> over the years, rev, i have made such specific predictions about people, events, you name if and i have been spectacularly wrong every single time. so i'm not going to do that this year. i'm going to learn finally. i will say my prediction is that the senate especially will not be so easy for donald trump to completely run over. i'm not saying they're going to take a lot of votes against
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him, but they may push back to prevent them having to take that bad vote. so it started. we've seen it with matt gaetz. there's going to be other nominations we'll see in early january and throughout probably the first half of the year. i think the senate's going to push back and the person who i think will be really good at it organizing it is mitch mcconnell because he's not the leader and he knows all the players in that room and say you could take that bad vote. someone will take this vote against trump and i think it will be effective. >> anything fun you think will happen this year? >> anything fun. i always pin my hopes on the boston red sox, but that also usually leads to disappointment. i think it will be fun to see sort of the new generation of democrats and the energy, whether it's aoc or governor moore or governor shapiro who i think will rise to the forefront here and sort of i think we'll see a really new
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democratic party start to take shape. it's not all going to happen in 2025. >> basil. >> to use the sports analogy, somehow my cowboys are going to bounce back in 2025. >> oh, no, that's wrong. >> don't be so quick. it's probably one of the most polarizing things i could say, that i'm a cowboys fan. >> arrest him. are. >> i'm definitely a gen x kid, late '70s, early '80s, but when you talk about names like wes moore and i'm really looking forward to see what lisa blunt rochester and angela alsobrooks do in the senate. >> i'm not that optimistic of having any fun. i don't have a sports team. i can't go there. i think we can look forward to is democrats are actually going to find a way to work with republicans on certain very specific things to get certain things actually done. >> well, my prediction is that we will get done in '25 whatever we get up and get
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done. i'm an activist. things happen when you make them happen. they don't happen when you just sit on the couch and complain. that does it for us. we've had a lot of fun. my thanks to susan and jonathan and, of course, to basil. remember, "politics nation" is live each saturday and sunday art 5 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. have a wonderful 2025! >> you've been watching the 2024 revvie awards brought to you by reverend al sharpton and "politics nation." thanks for watching! we'll see you next year. have a happy holiday season! who is the boss? donald trump insists he's the one running the show, not billionaire first buddy elon musk. after the two nearly caused a
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