on this new hour of ayman, republicans will soon control government. plus matt gaetz wants a job as that congressional report about his alleged misdeeds is said to be damning and dropping any moment. and flying uninhabitable and completely decimated, my conversation with an unrwa officer inside on the ground in gaza. he's been hell bent on revenge, targeting by news outlets and pollsters, but especially republicans who dared to cross him. brett stevenson recently published a piece about those republicans tilted "done with never trump." never trumpers are republicans who vow to oppose trump at

every turn to protect democracy and the true conservative values of the republican party. one of the most prominent voices of that coalition is former congresswoman liz cheney who endorsed vice president kamala harris. stevens argues it's time for folks like her to give up the resistance and give trump a chance. as a self-identified never trumper, he admitted trump is a dangerous person from a conservative view, but he argues the moment the movement overreacted, especially about january 6th , stevens writes that trump's election lies and the capitol attack led him to vote for kamala harris, but he said democracy means letting ordinary people is decide how important january 6th is and apparently most don't see it as a big deal. let's just stop here a second. the problem with january 6th in my opinion is not solely the attack on our capitol, it's also trump's incendiary rhetoric and unfounded claims of a stolen election in the lead up to the attack.

i guess him telling the rioters to fight like hell didn't really help either, but what he normalized then and continues to normalize now is the right for he and his party to declare any and every election they lose as rigged just because they do not have the courage to pay a politician's debt, which in this country means saying you lose when you lose. so i think it is fair to say calling january 6th an overreaction ignores the green light that donald trump and his enablers gave to this antidemocratic force, especially now that he and those very same enablers are returning to power. stevens also assumes despite nearly a decade in politics there's a chance donald trump has changed, yeah, changed. as rick wilson responded, men in their late 70s do not suddenly have moral awakens. trump hasn't become more disciplined or statesman-like. if anything, he's doubling down which brings us to the revenge

tour trump promised and seems to have already kicked off. in the past few weeks abc settled a lawsuit with trump for $15 million which many believe will embolden trump to sue more outlets when they challenge him. trump is suing a local iowa newspaper over polling results he didn't like during the election and trump wants the fbi to look into liz cheney for investigating the january 6th attack in congress. if this is what trump will do before he returns to the white house, what does next month even look like? we have elections for speaker, election certification, inauguration and, of course, the senate confirmation hearings for trump's cabinet, something stevens also wrote about. he wants never trumpers to give trump's cabinet picks a chance. he said they should stop comparing trump to dictators and quit worrying about democracy falling apart. that is easier said than done given who trump has nominated. it's not a cabinet position,

but trump wants kash patel to run the fbi, the same man who said this to steve bannon. >> we're going to come after the people in the media who lied about american citizens, who helped joe biden rig presidential elections. >> words that must be music to a wannabe dictator's ears. we should just overlook that, especially when we know trump embraces authoritarian rulers who mock democracies? he might claim to be joking. trump mocks our own democracy all the time suggesting things that violate our constitution like not being able to run for a third term unless republicans do something. he also wants to take away birthright citizenship, something in the constitution. this is not a time to soften oversight and criticism of trump. he's about to be leader of the free world after four years of researching how to pull off what he couldn't do the first time and there are some democrats already making the case for befriending maga like

pennsylvania senator john fetterman on abc today. >> well, i've been warning people you got to chill out, you know. the constant, you know, freakout, it's not helpful. so pack a lunch. pace yourself because he hasn't even taken office yet. >> you met with kash patel, i believe, right? >> yesterday, well, yes. >> he's talked about going after trump's enemies. >> yeah. and we've had conversations, but we had all of these interviews were all off the record and those things. so i'm not going to go into detail, but he absolutely is that's never going to happen. >> look, democracies don't just collapse suddenly overnight. they erode slowly with the help of polite excuses and shrugs

and giving as well just saw there by john fetterman good faith arguments to those who have not earned it. starting this off this hour, former >> reporter: congressman joe walsh, one of the never trumpers who is now host of white flag with joe walsh. also with us msnbc political analyst basil smikle, professor at practice at columbia university. joe, i'll give you a chance to respond, a long time never trumper. proud and as you told our team before tonight's show. why is that? what do you make of brett stevens, a fellow conservative colleague of yours as an op ed. >> this is really easy. you either believe donald trump is an existential threat to our democracy or you don't. clearly brett stevens doesn't. clearly, by the way, john

fetterman doesn't. chill out? chill out? with everything trump is doing right now, you know, ayman it just fricking me off and i like a lot about what fetterman has said about a lot of other issues, but a never trumper, somebody who tells me to believe the threat to democracy to chill out when as you said at the top of this hour that donald trump led a violent attempt to overthrow an american election, i will never chill out as long as that's the case. we normalize this guy, ayman, trump, and our own danger, he's told us he wants to be an authoritarian. he's told us he will imprison his political enemies. he's putting people in charge of our security and law enforcement apparatus to go

after his enemies. there's no f-ing way i'm chilling out in the face of that. come on. >> and he did it all based on a big lie. so brett stevens basically wants to give him an excuse for that lie it seemed based on that op ed. basil, let's talk about the democrats because of what john fetterman said. the harris campaign embraced in never trumpers and may have driven away some progressive voters. do you think this group of republicans are between a rock and a hard place, not really knowing where they lie within the republican or democratic party and might that drive more people like brett stevens to just go along with trump even if some democrats like fetterman want to give him a chance? >> you know, there are times when i've really liked senator fetterman's statements and i remember being one of those people that was upset the party was trying to throw out joe biden in the middle of the summer and senator fetterman was in many ways a voice of reason, but i really disagree

with him here. whether you're a democrat or republican, you got to stand up for what's right, plain and simple. so that op ed really incensed me because if you're black in this country and, you know, the president and his vice president have said that haitians eat their pets from a debate stage and then repeated that comment, has he really changed because it was just a couple weeks ago at a rally in madison square garden he had somebody say puerto ricans were garbage? what is the element of change here? what is the catalyst of his change? i don't see it. i don't think anybody else really sees it. a comment like that incensed me because if you don't stand up -- and the comment earlier about normalizing it is really important -- if you're not going to stand up against normalizing this rhetoric and behavior, what do you actually stand for? i always talk about january 6th because i was there at the

million man march in 1995 and if any one of us had jumped over the fence and stormed the capitol, you wouldn't be seeing us today, frankly. if i remember correctly, we even cleaned up after ourself. so trying to say that that was an overreaction, it's because in every city in every part of this country no matter where you are, rural or urban parts of this country, if somebody that looked like me did something like that to a government building, you wouldn't be hearing from us. so the fact that, you know, we could see these images of what happened on january 6th, we can have these arrests and convictions of so many people that violated the law on that day, trump saying he's going to pardon them and then for somebody from a paper of note to say well, we were just overreacting i think is just really misunderstands how at least half of this country actually feels right now and if there is going to be resistance 2.0, as there is a trump 2.0,

maybe it looks a little different than resistance than the first one, but it still has to happen. it still has to take place because the stakes are that high. >> the stakes are that high, joe, and they are now more pinpointed, more deliberate, more specific. you've got the gop and trump both wanting to prosecute liz cheney. trump has been going after many folks who aren't down with his maga movement. he's threatened the media. even today on the world stage threatening panama saying if they don't go along with him, america will retake the panama canal, a not so veiled threat against a sovereign nation in our hemisphere. do you think more never trumpers and more countries around the world are going to face these threats from trump? >> ayman, you and i talked about this before. there's been such a failure of

imagination with trump like we haven't imagined he'd do the horrible things that he said he would do. imagine, by the way, if we were sitting right now here and kamala harris had won, donald trump still right now today would be claiming this election was stolen. trump wouldn't have conceded this time. again, you either believe he's a threat or you don't. why am i a never trumper? ayman, this is not a lucrative position to be in. the party will never have me or liz cheney back. we're saying this because we believe it and basil is right and you are right. donald trump is much more specific in the authoritarian stuff he intends to do right now, using the military to go after people on our streets. you got to stand up against this. >> of course, basil, i was going to say really quickly it's not a surprise brett

stevens has changed his tune. i'm going to read this. back in 2021 he was singing a different tune. "the republican party is now walking to the edge of moral irredeemability." i think that speaks to his habitual capitulation. gentlemen, please stick around right after the break. —uh. —here i'll take that. [cheering] ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar and a protein blend to feed muscles up to 7 hours. ♪♪ my name is brayden.

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it seems i may not have had enough support in the united states senate. maybe i'll just run for marco rubio's vacant seat in the united states senate and join some of those folks. >> another day, another possible job prospect for disgraced maga front man matt gaetz. the former florida congressman thinks he's got a shot at the senate seat with marco rubio anointed to trump's cabinet and

with lara trump saying no thanks to a possible appointment. it was in that same speech today during day four of turning point usa's american fest that gaetz also mentioned running for florida governor or special counsel in order to go after his former colleagues. what he's wanting to distract from, however, is the release of the committee's long awaited report that will drop any moment. it will most likely come tomorrow when congressional staffers return from their weekends. we are told it will go into detail on all things gaetz has denied. gaetz will be one of trump's biggest preinauguration fails after he was forced to remove his name from consideration for attorney general and combined with the failed support of john thune as senate majority leader and musk and trump nearly shutting our government down this weekend, how much further can the magaverse be tested.

joe walsh and basil smikle are back with me. take a quick listen about what trump said about gaetz future and we'll get your thoughts on the other side. >> a friend of mine i haven't seen in a little while is here, matt gaetz. where's matt? he's got a big career set up. >> a big career set up, joe. >> i shouldn't laugh. i'm sorry, guys. look, again, let's make something really, really clear. the reelection of donald trump ended a candidate's personal character ever mattering again. personal character no longer matters. it doesn't matter what matt gaetz did. it wouldn't matter how old the girl was he did it with. donald trump just got reelected. personal character of a candidate is dead when it comes

to republican voters. so matt gaetz, ayman, probably has a really, really bright future and that report coming out tomorrow will probably only enhance his future in maga. >> i hate to say you're right because i think that's a sad point for the candidates that we put forth in this country. basil, when you look at lara trump being out of the race, maybe gaetz will get a boost tomorrow when that report comes out among republican voters. what do you make of his ideas to stay in government in some form or fashion? >> well, i think joe's absolutely right, that those guardrails, that sort of self- discipline that we would have to say no, i probably shouldn't run for that office given what's in my background, those guardrails are gone and what i think owing to some of the stuff we were talking about in the last segment, one of the big challenges for our democracy is the republican party to date cannot self-

police, right? it doesn't have that instinct in it to say you know what? we should not be pushing this person out there. we should not be elevating him and giving him a platform, especially since there's a report about to come out and we think there's some pretty heinous stuff in there. that ability to sort of self- police is part of the guardrails that we've been talking about all that time that have fallen by the wayside. as i say, this is trump 2.0 in the resistance 2.0. i think democrats need to be able to go and still fight for a lot of the people that voted for donald trump because they still need somebody to champ some of their interests, obviously not the ones that are racist and misogynists, but there's still a good chunk of this electorate that voted for donald trump that needs someone to fight for them and i think there are democrats out there that can do that, but they have to continue to call out the fact that you have a leader of a nation about to being sworn in

to be sworn in in about a month saying you know what? he's all right to represent you and your family and your kids given what's potentially in that report. it's shocking. >> it's shocking, joe, and gaetz seems to want to fight back. he's threatened that after the house ethics committee voted to release his report last week, he threw around another idea on x saying taking his seat in congress january 3rd , filing a motion to expose congress members who use public funds for sexual misconduct settlements, what have you, it's either a threat or deflection or a little bit of both, but it kind of speaks to the dpravity of the republican party. >> they've learned never apologize or acknowledge

wrongdoing, lie, lie, fight back, fight back, never look weak. that's what matt gaetz is doing. it's worse than what basil said. not only do republicans no longer self-police, it's worse than that. republican voters want these kinds of candidates. most of trump's voters loved the fact that he's a horrible human being. i expect matt gaetz, the voters to say the same thing about him. they want this. >> and he certainly now is projecting himself as a victim of republicans who don't like him, who don't like the maga agenda and that he's a loyalist and he can get things done, but i guess my question to you, basil, about this specifically is how is it that the voters, the republicans, the people in this country who kind of go along with this, are so siloed that even when the details of the report come out tomorrow, they can just either be dismissed, ignored, or somehow

recast in a positive light that matt gaetz is the victim here targeted by anti-maga republicans? >> i always tell the story when i was upstate new york a couple years ago, i had about four hours to kill and i got a tattoo. talking to a tattoo artist and asked where he got his news and this was back in 2017 and he said youtube, right? because he liked the people he liked. that really is a sort of message for where we are today. this is not about actually having a really healthy debate and making really good, informed choices and saying i think this person actually is standing up for the ideals that i think this country embraces and symbolizes. this is about people who are so in their silo that it is incredibly difficult for us to get them out of that silo, you know. the algorithm is rhythming in a

way that it's almost impossible to intersect and when you look at that and sort of embrace that, you understand that you could become part of something, something that a lot of us honestly don't understand, but you've become part something of that not is about idolizing donald trump, but all the people that says he's one of us. >> i got to give you kudos for trusting that man that gave you the tattoo. thank you to the both of you. happy holidays, great to see you. after the break, gun safety in america is an issue that is bipartisan yet divisive. we'll try to explain why that is. who can i talk to? can this be treated? stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd. it's a medical condition where there is a curve in the erection, caused by a formation of scar tissue.

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find common ground on the issue of gun safety. after all, politicians love to win and this gun safety group moms demand action found the issue helped both parties win during the last election cycle. out of the 330 moms demand action volunteers who successfully ran, nearly 200 were in local offices this past week served as a reminder after a 15-year-old girl opened fire inside a madison, wisconsin school killing a fellow student and a teacher. six others were hurt. >> the truth is today is a sad, sad day, not only for madison, but for our entire country where yet another police shooting press conference to speak about violence in our community, specifically in one of the places that's most sacred to me as someone who loves education and to someone who has children that are in school. >> i'm joined now by the executive director of moms

demand action. angela, it's great to have you. why do you think gun safety has such an impact on local races in november and if we are seeing such successful races won by antigun advocates, why are we not seeing that yet translate into legislation? >> sure. thank you for having me. i first and foremost would say this is an important issue because this is impacting everyone across the country. it's a public health crisis. folks are tired of having to contend with this. this is not an inevitability and we could be implementing solutions to stop this terrible tragedy that's the leading cause of kids in this country. it doesn't take much to motivate folks around this issue because it is impacting our communities. i want to just say something

because you mentioned something about antigun. moms demand action, we are literally every town. we represent every corner of this country. we have our chapters of moms demand action and students demand action in every single state plus the district of columbia. we have gun owners and nongun owners, folks of all political stripes. this really is about having safety in our communities, having common sense gun safety legislation that will save lives. folks are tired of their communities devastated by this violence and they know there are solutions we can be implementing to change this. i would also say i got the distinct honor and pleasure to spend the election cycle with our candidates running for office and it's so clear that no matter what their background is that nobody thinks the fact that guns are the number one killer of kids is acceptable and it doesn't matter if you're in blue, red, purple states, folks want to see a solution to this public health crisis. >> that was a wrong choice of words on my part. i'm glad for your clarification. what is the difference, if

you've seen the difference, how gun safety impacts local races versus statewide races and even federal? >> yeah. the truth is because this is a public health crisis, it's going to require every elected official, every public safety, every community member to do their part in this work to end gun violence in this country. we have seen this prioritized at the federal level through the bipartisan safer communities act which broke a nearly 30-year logjam when you think about major gun safety legislation in this country, but we know that this is a public health crisis because it's unbelievable this is a public health crisis in this country, that we need everyone, all hands on deck, to solve this crisis. we think about the local level. we can have anywhere from school boards that are thinking about how to educate communities about secure storage and what that means to have your firearm securely stored. we're thinking about city councils that are helping with gun violence intervention programs and making sure

they're funded in cities across this country and also we're thinking about reckless gun industry players held accountable and what that looks like. there is a place for everyone in this fight and every single level of government. >> there are probably some watching this who think, understandably so, action on guns won't happen if change didn't come after massacres like sandy hook, uvalde, even parkland, but our local elections in your opinion and from what you've seen the very way to create that change a majority of americans, including gun owners, support? >> that's right, first of all. it's been an incredible amount of progress. moms demand action has been around nearly 13 years and we have seen in that time so much has changed. this used to be a third rail of politics and now we have folks that are not only running on this issue, but winning on this issue. it doesn't matter if it's a blue, red or purple state. i had the pleasure of speaking to our volunteers and community

members across the country and folks are really tired of having to contend with keeping their family safe, whether or not dropping their kids off to school will be the last time that they see them or sending your kids off to play outside on the playground or just going to a service at your church or synagogue or wherever that may be, a mosque. folks are really, really tired of having to contend with this. what we are doing is making sure we're going to continue through this next year and the coming years to recruit our volunteers that run for office as we have done. as you said earlier, we've had over 300 run for office and over 200 win, which is a big deal. that means this is a winning issue because people want folks to stand up and have the courage to do everything it takes to keep their community safe, not just to survive, but to thrive. that's really important. the progress in states where we have gun sense majority is really important. we'll continue to build those benches of leaders and help to see how much more progress we can make in those places. so we've had tremendous success

and we'll continue to do so. >> angela ferrell-zabala, thank you so much. next, the director of one of the last functioning hospitals in northern gaza pleads with the world to intervene. is anyone listening? we will speak to someone who is on the ground. d stabbing pain , so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as seven days. now i can help again feel the difference with nervive.

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are windows a hospital in northern gaza covered with sandbags for the fear of snipers. according to the hospital's director, this is the only hospital providing any humanitarian services in the north and yet this is the scene of devastation they are facing each and every day. over the past 24 hours health officials have reported intense attacks on the hospital, including the icu maternity ward and the neonatal warrant. because the hospital has been hit repeatedly this, video from tuesday was one of the latest our team was able to verify. they've been under total israeli siege more than 70 days now since early october, but the situation is still dire for everyone throughout the besieged strip. here are scenes from the aftermath of a house in central gaza. among the 11 people killed was a doctor who used to work at

the hospital, his wife and another doctor, a university professor, his wife and three children. the homeowner was also killed along with his wife and kids. for more than 400 days these scenes have become the norm, whole families being killed, hospitals, schools that are being targeted, barely functioning, all of them destroyed, no ceasefire or end in sight. earlier i spoke with luis waterridge, digital communication officer at unrwa from central gaza. thank you so much for joining us this evening. we've seen these reports about the intense israeli attacks on the hospital this weekend in north gaza. we know you're in central gaza. what have you heard? what can you tell us about the attacks on this hospital as of this hour? >> it's been nearly 80 days that the north part of the gaza

strip has been under this very strict siege and continued military operations. what we're hearing the last 24 hours it just keeps intensifying. every single day we hear reports from medical staff still there trying to provide whatever care and treatment they can to people trapped in these areas trying to find shelter. we have very limited access. we've continued to have repeated denial from the united nations to these areas and it's just unimaginable. it really is unimaginable the suffering and pain people are being put through in these areas and the continued really, really intense operations around the hospital and around the residential areas where people are just trying to find some kind of safety. >> we know these attacks have continued all throughout the besieged gaza strip. just last week at least 36 people were killed in an israeli strike on the refugee camp where you are now located.

in the past 24 hours there were 32 palestinians killed in the strip. how often are you seeing strikes? is there any warning from israeli forces to you and your team when they actually carry out attacks or not? >> i've been speaking to you now with strikes going on all around me. i hear there's been reports of a strike in what's supposed to be the humanitarian zone, a designated safe areas for families to shelter. it's been hit in a strike the last half hour or so and there's been very heavy and severe bombings. it shakes the entire building. it shakes the floor and it's been relentless the last couple nights. it's been all through the night. i saw my colleagues and friends today. people are exhausted. there's no warning. it's navy fire. it's drones. it's strikes. it is just relentless and it just has such a psychological effect on people that you can't sleep. you can't plan anything.

you can't plan movement. if you try and go and get some flour or some food or anything like this, you can be caught out in any kind of attack or strike and this has been going on 14 months. this isn't a new situation. it's just relentless. >> let me can you more about the north because the u.n. has said it has been largely blocked from getting aid into northern gaza the last two months since the area first came under israelis' total siege. there are some 75,000 people still in the north. tell us what is actually stopping aid from getting through and more importantly, what are you hearing about how those 75,000 people there are literally surviving day in and day out? >> from what we hear and what we see, anywhere in this besieged barrier is flattened. it's not habitable anymore. it's completely decimated. we know areas around the gaza strip, around gaza city, for

example, are resembling this. khan younis resembles this. these areas were once cities that are absolutely flattened and now this is what jabalia looks like. it's unrecognizable. we continue to be denied access and when i say that, i mean wfp tweeted yesterday 97% of their requests have been denied, 97%. >> what reason does the israeli military give you when they are denying you access to these areas? >> sometimes no reason, sometimes military operations. it depends. it really depends on the mission. it depends on the day. sometimes there's no information. so it's very difficult for us to plan or to know why or which areas. we've had some missions where certain areas we're not allowed to go, but those areas will be where the hospitals or the people are. sometimes we're denied even taking food or medical supplies in the convoys. there have been at the beginning of last month medical evacuations, but then they weren't allowed to take medical

supplies with them. they weren't allowed to take food with them. they weren't allowed to take water with them. it's absolutely inhumane. >> if the 75,000 people there wanted to leave or they wanted to evacuate the hospital, is israel even giving them safe passage to get to other parts of gaza where it may be safer? i know no part of gaza is safe, but relatively speaking to what we're seeing now in the north. would they be given evacuation passageways to get to other areas from the hospital in the north? >> i've spoken to a lot of families in gaza city over the last few weeks who have just fled the besieged north area and what is noticeable actually is that these families are female. i asked them, you know, where are your relatives? where are your family? tell me what's happened and they tell me the male relatives, husbands, brothers, sons, fathers, they were detained or they were shot. that's the answer that they have. there's no safety. i met an 80-year-old woman in a

wheelchair. she said her young male relatives were pushing her and they were shot and killed in front of her and she was left there stranded waiting to be saved. another family had to continue pushing her out of the area. people hear about this. people know about these experiences. people talk to each other. there's no safety. where do they want people to move when there's no safety? families are just trying to stay together and stay alive. there's no reason for them to move and be forcibly displaced for the 14th, 15th, 16th time to another area just to die there. they don't want to do that. they want to stay where they are and stay with their families and they just want to try and stay alive. >> we are more than 400 days into what leading human rights organizations are now calling a genocide. what is your message to the international community of either health officials, human rights activists, the politicians, the diplomats that continue to see these horrific scenes and atrocities and

completely unable to rein israel in or to end this war as the media coverage of gaza continues to dwindle? >> it's unforgivable. i've been here since the rafah incursion. it was unforgivable then. it's unforgivable now. my colleague was down in rafah when there was a child burning alive headless and it went viral and all eyes were on rafah we were told. the same thing is happening now. the same thing is happening today in the besieged north. it's no doubt happening in other areas while i'm speaking to you every day. how is this happening? it's been 14 months. it's absolutely unforgivable nothing is being done. the journalists on the ground are risking life and limb on a daily basis to show the world what is happening. we know what is happening. we are telling you what is happening. it's not okay. it's not okay that this inaction continues. it needs to stop. there has to be a ceasefire.

it is the only hope now. >> louise wateridge, we continue to keep the spotlight on gaza. we thank you and your team and thank you for joining us and giving us a glimpse what continues there. thank you. please stay safe. >> thank you. we'll be right back after a quick break. ou like it without an audience. ♪♪ [silence] the freestyle libre 3 plus sensor tracks your glucose in real time so everyone else doesn't have to, and over time it can help lower your a1c confident choices for more control of your life. this is progress. learn more and try for free at freestylelibre.us ♪♪

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