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these are vicious, horrible people. i call it the enemy from within. it's the enemy from within. all the scum that we have to deal with that hate our country, that's a bigger enemy than china and russia. the enemy from within is a very sick group of people, i can tell you, because i had to go through years of russia, russia, russia and they knew it was fake. we have an enemy from within which i think is much more dangerous than the outside enemy. >> in the waning days of his presidential campaign, donald trump picked up the pace of that refrain, the enemy within. e used it over and over again to describe what he calls a long list of his own political enemies, people he believes wronged him in some way, disagreed with him, investigated him or his campaign, especially those who sought to hold him to account and those who charged him with crimes, democrats, government officials, republicans, judges,

news organizations, jurors, all of whom he said -- we showed you some of it -- were "more dangerous than any of america's foreign adversaries and now in his selection of kash patel to lead the fbi he has found someone who publicly seems to share in the belief that there are dangerous people inside our country, in government service, in the media and elsewhere. a peek through patel's old interviews reveals pretty quickly a long list of people he might go after who according to him allegedly committed felonies. listen. >> the comeys and clappers of the world will always lie and when we're back in power, we will prosecute them for lying to congress because it's a felony. members of congress can't hide behind the speech and debate laws. i think there was other lies told by cassidy hutchinson under oath. she's subject to federal

prosecution for lying under oath to federal officials. that's a felony. >> so trump will have, if that man, cash kash patel, is confirmed by the united states senate, fbi director ready to go and jump at the chance to proceed after trump's enemies. the interim report saying former congresswoman liz cheney who is likely at the top of trump's enemy within list should be prosecuted. we know he's got allies in congress willing to do his bidding without any facts, without any reason, a lie wrapped up in predication maybe. on the flip side new reporting from nbc news finds something that didn't exist last time, a support network of sorts mobilizing around the public

targets of trump and patel's ire. "lawyers and pro democracy advocates are in the early stages of building a nationwide network of specialists aimed at defending and protecting people who may be targeted for retribution once president- elect donald trump takes office." that's according to multiple people involved in the effort. those working to create the infrastructure said in addition to lawyers, they are recruiting accountants to help people who may find their taxes under audit, employment experts to advise those who could be fired or reassigned without cause, public relations professionals to assist anyone whose reputations might be tarnished by accusations, and even psychologists to help potential targets manage the stress that comes with being in the federal government's crosshairs. that effort is where we start the hour with some of our favorite experts and friends. former lead investigator for the january 6th select committee and former acting attorney for department of justice, msnbc legal analyst mary mccord and president of

media matters is back. angela, i love starting with you for many reasons, but chief among them is your granular understanding of what is in black in white in writing in terms of their plans of retribution using the fbi. will you take us through, again, not being paranoid, not projecting onto them what is said at rallies, what is in the plan? >> they wrote it down and then talked about it. so part of what this tragedy is a bit of a seahawk and awe. you go in and fire as many people as you possibly can and even if you can't, you install as many loyalists, those that don't need to be given assignments of retribution because they're going in with the assignment. that's what project 2025 designed to do was to actually give both a step-by-step guide for what has to happen out of the gate and then organize personnel to help execute that. it's worth keeping in mind when

we talk about kash patel as potentially the fbi director, he's not doing all the work himself. that needs to be assigned out to actual agents and people at the fbi. that's where this larger infrastructure comes in place. maga had been professionalized the past few years via project 2025 and that's how you turn these agencies into an actual instrument of revenge. when you overlay that with things patel has been saying publicly, the idea is you go out there, find a couple of these individuals that will send a very clear message and you just investigate and you find one or two things you can really hang your hat onto to unravel these larger narratives. i don't think it's a coincidence they're going after january 6th because one of the first things they need to show is the attacks over trump the past few years were all illegitimate because this entire january 6th thing was nothing more than a hoax

perpetuated by the media and democrats in order to serve against the bullwork of the deep state. >> the other thing i was thinking about, angela, where they may seek to be more -- i don't even know the word -- but more maniacal in their selections to lead the u.s. attorney's office, they met some resistance in people like jeff berman who was the u.s. attorney who sent criminal cases back. he was to bring a case against either kerry or greg craig. he writes about it in his book and he sends it back to doj and they simply farmed it out to a more amenable office. it feels like they maybe have learned how to avoid those pockets of resistance? >> that's exactly right. one of the things patel indicated very clearly is that most of the things that are done should no longer be -- both the investigation side as

well as the prosecution side, you should avoid washington, d.c. as much as possible. in fact, you should move as much of the investigations out to offices across the country and whenever you can, you should stretch the degree of jurisdiction and you should make prosecutions all across the country as well in friendlier jurisdictions where the jury pool there is going to be more sympathetic to the story you're telling or maybe the targets you're going after. so it's not just in terms of the initiation of these investigations of potential prosecutions. they've also thought about how to help them be successful on the back end as well by finding more friendlier forums and sort of more friendly jury pools and the part that i find most disturbing in all this is patel's particular understanding of not just all these execution parts, but then his relationship to the larger right wing media. one of the things he bragged about when he was on the board

of truth social was how they would take narratives from qanon and weave them into their overall messaging because it helped build support and kinetic energy and momentum for the stories they were telling. when you have somebody that understands how to tap into sort of this right wing media machine and those fever swarms and how to take these little bread crumbs you would get as a result of these investigations, you can start to see how it all comes together. you break main justice so that's no longer one of the barriers or firewalls against injustice. you farm it out to as many friendly places as you can that are going to pursue these investigations, may be way outside the balance in the norms. then you initiate prosecutions and forums where for the last year you've used the bread crumbs and right wing media to tell these stories that validate the already false narratives and conspiracies many of these right wing audiences believe and now you'll hand them a targets served up on a platter and a

prosecution that would have never taken place but now we're in a new reality where they're really operationalizing all these components together. kash patel isn't just a key part of that. he's someone that keenly understands it. >> mary, bread crumbs is a good word to use for it. senator chris murphy sort of had an admonition for the press and their sort of straight coverage of the press, which is fair, over what congressman loudermilk sought to do with a nonfact-based allegation against liz cheney that was worried could become predicate for opening an investigation into her conduct on the january 6th select committee. your thoughts about what should happen and what could happen. >> well, i think this does seem like it was basically fabricated in order to make a referral come from congress for the investigation so that an

incoming president can do the thing he tends to do, which is a bit of a dodge and weave. i'm not directing investigations. oh, but these people may deserve to be investigated. this will be up to kash patel. oh, congress seems to think that they need to be investigated and so i think it does provide some cover to him and some sort of at least from his perspective plausible deniability that he's not the one directing any type of retribution. this is coming from congress, from the house after an extensive two-year investigation. there's another thing i worry about besides the fact that potentially kash patel will find enough complicit people within the fbi to actually launch largely baseless investigations, but i also worry about the distraction of resources, of fbi resources and potentially department of justice resources, from things that should be getting investigated.

we are certainly not at a low point in other threats, terrorism threats, espionage threats, threats from adversaries, other more traditional domestic criminal cases that the fbi normally spends time on. those include fraud investigations, transnational drug trafficking, hate crimes. so there are a lot of other things, a lot of other areas that the fbi's vast resources should be deployed to and in addition to being concerned about baseless investigations, i'm also concerned about just really drop be dropping the ball when it comes to legitimate national safety and public safety concerns. >> i share your worry, mary, but there hasn't been a book written about the first trump presidency that didn't detail trump constantly heckling the likes of bill barr and christopher wray over inane things that had nothing to do

with the ongoing threats from china and iran and russia and otherwise. have you seen any evidence even if someone wanted to focus on the threats to u.s. national security, they would be undeterred by someone like trump seemingly obsessed? i could have played for two hours all of his musing and fetishizing political revenge. >> i do think career men and women within the fbi, within the intelligence community, within the department of defense and the department of justice and or our national security agencies, will be trying to keep up with the threats wherever they may come from abroad and will be trying to take actions that they're, you know, authorized to take to try to mitigate those threats. they'll be trying to get the attention of the political appointees. i totally agree with you that certainly the former president trump, his first time in

office, did not seem often to want to take these things seriously, but there are people in government who will and that could even include some appointees, including appointees who haven't been named yet. we focus so much on the secretary level appointees and problems with nominees like pete hegseth, for example, certainly with someone like kash patel and john ratcliffe and others. we have concerns about those, but there are many more who we don't know and there is something about being in that environment and seeing the threats coming in every day. i'm going to put donald trump aside. he certainly has those threats with his presidential daily briefing presented to him every day. i don't know how much he listens to those presentations, but there are others there all day every day who will appreciate the seriousness and try to take them seriously and try to make sure adequate resources are put toward them.

that's what i have to hope for. >> that's our best hope, that they'll be scared enough by the actual intelligence that it won't be influenced by anyone else atop those agencies and respond in a manner consistent with the history of people in these agencies. tim, let's talk about congressman louder milk and what he's done. wasn't he also investigated or his office investigated for a conduct that included folks and visitors to his office taking some strange photos and touring? do i have that right? >> yes, exactly right. perhaps. it is certainly true that for a period of time the select committee focused on a tour that representative louder milk gave to some constituents who ended up at the capitol the

next day. if you recall, there was some allegation early on that there had been members of congress that gave tours to rioters that somehow were involved in a collusion or conspiracy to help people prepare for an insurrection. candidly, we did not find evidence of explicit agreement between members of congress and rioters, surveillance or tours that gave rise to that kind of activity. we looked at it and we did not reach those conclusions and we said so. representative loudermilk's tour was a participant who came to the ellipse rally and ended up at the capitol, was not a charged rioter, the person to whom he gave a tour, and this constituent did take some photographs in the office buildings, but we never concluded representative loudermilk did anything to aid an insurrection. that said, the focus on him, yes, was unusual and was

different from other members of congress. he then is the person who is the chairman of the subcommittee on administration that is investigating the investigators and i have to say reading his report, there is absolutely no basis for the very serious allegations he makes against ms. cheney, against chairman thompson and the committee. this notion of destroying records is a complete fabrication. every official report of the select committee was maintained. the videos of witness interviews are not the official record. the official record of those interviews is the transcript. those were all maintained. a handful of those involved national security officials, secret service agents, aides in very sensitive positions in the white house and the biden white house as a condition of our access to them said we could not make those interviews public. we had to return them and i believe congressman loudermilk ultimately got those transcripts himself. there's just been no hiding of

information and the agoization against accusation against ms. cheney about somehow witness tampering, there's no way we would have had as much success in accessing people like cassidy hutchinson or bill barr or mark milley if it had not been for ms. cheney's credibility as a long time republican and she simply received the information from ms. hutchinson that was inconsistent with what she was provided early. hutchinson explained she didn't come forward. she was afraid to. ms. cheney didn't make that up. she's simply reporting when we heard from a very important witness. i just think this allegation and the report, that she should be referred for criminal prosecution, i see no foundation for that allegation. >> what is your sense of why

liz and her communications with cassidy hutchinson are being manufactured as a potential predicate for investigation? >> look, i think ms. cheney is a lightning rod. she's been a very outspoken critic of the president. she was very, very visible as vice chair of our committee and as a result, she attracts a lot of attention. there's no question she was vitally involved in our investigation. she's a good lawyer and she asked good questions and she was personally very involved in the day-to-day work of the committee. that is what we should expect from our public servants. she did the right thing by trying to get the best facts and circumstances and be informed of the attack on the capitol. because of her high profile and how pervasive she has been, she is a lightning rod. >> thank you so much for having this conversation with us. when we come back, more

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i think it's pretty clear we've avoided a recession. i think growth this year has been solid. the u.s. economy has just been remarkable and these international meetings that i attend, this has been the story, how well the u.s. is doing. if you look around the world, there's just a lot of slow growth and continued struggle with inflation. so i feel very good about where the economy is and the performance of the economy. >> that was federal reserve share jerome powell with a good report on the u.s. economy yesterday on how inflation has eased significantly over the past two years. that is why powell was able to announce another quarter point cut to the national interest

rate, a third consecutive cut of the year 2024. the fed also did something else. it signaled that it will make fewer of these interest rate cuts in the next year and inflation will still linger in 2025 and that sent stocks tumbling. it also probably pushed powell clear to the top of donald trump's 2025 enemies list, but for the fed and the economy the reality is that what happens next under the trump administration is, frankly, anyone's guess and all the uncertainty cited by powell yesterday should in a normal world be a reality check for trump about how any of this, this economy he cares so much about, how it actually works and why the fed chair and not the president has this specific authority as well as about the damage his proposed mass deportations and steep tariffs could do to the economy. joining our conversations, cnbc

senior washington correspondent ayman jabir s and corps spot christines and correspondent christine romans. this could be the friction point. i feel like in trump 1.0 it was between trump and the fbi and trump and the oj. in trump 2.0 this could be one of the friction points. do you see it that way? >> the crisp no and no and moving on when he was asked if he would have to leave. the fed is clear they are the inflation fighter and they are independent. the president would like lower interest rates because it gooses the economy and could make them look better. his job is to have inflation under control and maximum employment and he has said again and again that is the

fed's goal. the tough part now is he's acknowledging inflation isn't vanquished. the economy is really good. they don't have to cut interest rates. that could be something that the president-elect does not like in the beginning of next year. >> what is your sense how much they anticipate interest rates being a political hammer trump tries to wield on a daily basis? >> trump is a low rate guy. he's said that. the state of play here now is trump has said he believes he has the authority to fire jay powell if he wants to, but he doesn't want to just yet. that's sort of what he's saying now. it's kind of a gray area, whether a president can push out a fed chair who doesn't want to go if it's not for cause and the question is what would jay powell do if trump

said it's time for him to go. he struck a very defiant tone and said no, it's not illegal under the law and jay powell is somebody who adamantly supports the independence of the fed and is willing to fight for that and dig in his heels, but trump has a lot of opposites here. he could do something like announce in advance who his next fed chair nominee will be and that sort of hobbles jay powell's ability to communicate to global markets because a lot of interest from financial professionals will go to who that other person is who is now speaking for trump and powell will have less ability to speak to markets going forward. so there are ways for trump to undermine powell short of firing him, but i think you're right. this is one of the potential friction points going into '25. >> let me show you what powell said yesterday about an economic analysis of trump's stated policies which we should stipulate it's possible his stated policies don't become the actual policies, but here's what he said about what we

know. >> we don't know much at all about the actual policies, so it's very premature to try to make any kind of conclusion. we don't know what will be tariffed from what countries, for how long, what size. we don't know whether there will be retaliatory tariffs. i think we need to take our time, not rush and make a very careful assessment but only when we've actually seen what the policies are and how they're implemented. >> it's the $64 million question in the time of trump. we don't know much about the actual policies. historically neither does anyone at the white house because some of them are made up as trump takes in information. in the past it was from fox news. who knows if it will be from other podcasts and other places this time around, but traditionally there has not been a policy process. how do the markets respond to that? >> it's so interesting because jay powell was asked again and again about tariffs and deportations and tax cuts and deregulation and how these things would affect the economy and he so steadfastly doesn't

want to talk about those things until they would happen and they would take it case by case. it's sort of like a reporter's pulling him into this conversation. he doesn't want to talk about the hypothetical for donald trump. when you look at what trump himself has said, tax cuts and deficits mean the u.s. will issue more bonds. there are all these things that could be happening that could really be inflationary and could be really disruptive to the american economy next year at a point now where the economy is pretty solid overall, but we just don't know what is exactly going to happen. >> we do know there is no sort of vanity on trump's part like a strong economy and i guess people hope he won't want to wreck it. is that the sort of private talk? >> yes. he uses the stock market as his own personal scorecard for only taking the credit and not the blame. presidents get too much credit and blame for the stock market and everything in the economy. there is a feeling it will be

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in the words of our next guest, "it's happening right in front of our eyes." the first shots being fired against the pillars of our democracy and the rule of law by donald trump, events in the last few days showing just how quickly the democratic experiment will be tested and it's all happening even before donald trump is sworn in. there's the case study in obeying in advance as professor timothy snyder puts it happening not in hungary or turkey or russia this time, but right here. scores of business leaders seemingly determined to curry favor with donald trump, as we witness donald trump using

civil litigation to pursue any media outlet or anyone who displeases him, even a pollster who came out with a shock poll ahead of the november election and as we witness media outlets absorb those blows, the headlines speak for themselves. cnn writing, "emboldened by abc's settlement, trump threatens more lawsuits defense the press." pbs, "abc news with trump raises concern about press freedom in his second term," and all of it happening in public out in the open in front of our eyes, the seeds being planted for retribution against the most outspoken and prominent critics of donald trump that he promised. on tuesday house republicans released a report calling for january 6th committee vice chairwoman liz cheney to be investigated by the fbi. that report claims she "colluded with star witness cassidy hutchinson without hutchinson's attorney's knowledge in order to change her testimony." the republicans claim it was

witness tampering and if that report is the kerosene, donald trump is the match. he posted late last night that cheney could "be in a lot of trouble," after he promised in his campaign for her to be tried in a military tribunal. cassidy hutchinson's saying this is pro preposterous is adding, "ms. hutchinson decided to part ways with her trump-funded lawyer enabling her to provide truthful testimony about the attack on the capitol alongside dozens of republican witnesses and law enforcement officers." cheney released a blistering statement of her own. we'll read it to you in full. "january 6th showed donald trump for who he really is, a

cruel and vindictive man who allowed violent attacks to continue against our capitol and law enforcement officers while he watched on television and refused for hours to instruct his supporters to stand down and leave." the january 6th committee's hearings and report featured scores of republican witnesses, including many of the most senior officials from trump's own white house, his campaign, and administration, all this testimony painstakingly set out in thousands of pages of transcripts made public along with the highly detailed and meticulously sourced 800-page report. the department of justice conducted its own independent investigation and reached the same fundamental conclusions. now chairman loudermilk's interim report intentionally disregards the truth of the select committee's tremendous weight of evidence and instead fabricates lies and defamatory allegations in an attempt to cover up what donald trump did. their allegations do not

reflect a review of the actual evidence and are militias and a cowardly assault on the truth. no reputable lawyer, legislator, or judge would take this seriously." the facts have never stopped donald trump and his allies from trying. here's lara trump reacting to the loudermilk report. >> what they have perpetrated on the american people by way of this january 6th hoax is absolutely terrible and it is a stain on our country's history. these people ought to be ashamed of themselves. i know they aren't. so we'll go ahead and shame them. we'll go ahead and make sure they never forget history recalls every single day from now till forever what these people did and the way they personally and singlehandedly tried to destroy this country. thank goodness god is good and he always shows us he shines the light in the dark places. this is just the beginning, benny. if you think this is good, wait till donald trump gets in

there. wait till kash patel gets in there. wait till tulsi gabbard gets in there. >> this is just the beginning, benny. democratic senator from connecticut, chris murphy, senator, thank you for being here. >> yeah. thanks for having me. >> you inspired a lot of our approach to these headlines today. you knitted them together before we did. i'll let you expand on your thoughts as shared on social media. >> yeah. appreciate it. i just think the last four days have been really important because you are seeing how this plan is going to work and it's just going to be on hyper drive once he becomes president. so there are a lot of countries in the world that technically have elections, but they aren't real democracies and the reason they aren't real democracies is because the opposition becomes so weak out of fear of criminal prosecution and the press becomes so cowed by the regime that there's not a real choice in any of these elections. trump has been telling you over the last four days how he's

going to do that. this effort to line up a criminal prosecution of liz cheney is a clear signal that if you cross him, you could end up in jail and no one is going to stop him because this time around he has a department of justice that doesn't care about the law. he's got a director of the fbi who actually believes trump's political opponents should be in jail and he's got enough judges that are maga loyalists that they might actually work the rules to put liz cheney or others in jail. you put side by side with that this lawsuit against the des moines register totally baseless, but really just designed to intimidate the press into folding and refraining from criticizing donald trump or in this case not even commissioning a poll that might have some bad news for trump and might give some oxygen to his political opposition.

in countries where that happens, where the opposition fears going to jail, so they stay home and the press doesn't tell the truth because they fear consequences, democracy dies. it just does. you still have elections, but the opposition is so weak they can never win and trump over the last four days is showing you that plan, to suppress the opposition and suppress the press and so far he has had stunning success even before he gets sworn in. >> what is the remedy at this point if he's put so many cards on the table and received the desired response advance of actually wielding any constitutional power? >> i think the most important remedy right now is for this not to be normalized. i read all the headlines about the liz cheney criminal referral yesterday and almost every single one of them in mainstream media played this

straight as if this was a normal regular function of legislative power instead of telling the truth, which is this is made up out of thin air. there's not a shred of a crime, but if you read the headlines yesterday, you thought cheney did something criminally wrong. so as leaders we can't accept this is normal. as journalists you can't accept this is normal. the minute that we pretend this is a normal exercise of executive power is the day people give up fighting. so we've got these nomination fights coming up on pam bondi and kash patel. we should fight as democrats like democracy is on the ballot because it is and if we don't show outrage right now, then the public is going to just accept that this is a normal circumstance of present day democracy. showing some fight right now both in the private sector and

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infamous response during a campaign town hall in 2016, that he believes and doubles down there with chris matthews in punishing women who have abortions. now it looks like he's putting the people into place who will do that for him. trump has announced he would appoint ed martin, author of the rnc platform that life begins at conception, to be chief of staff of the office of management and budget, the agency entrusted with implementing donald trump's project 2025 agenda. his views are so extreme you should hear them for yourself. >> i certainly think you'll find a lot of people that step away from jail time because they'll say well, this is some -- but if you believe it's a baby, i do, then you have to do something to protect the baby. the late phyllis laply who i worked so closely with used to say if you get to claim and frame the argument, you almost certainly get to win. in other words, you take their framing, it's a woman's right, are you going to put women in jail? no.

it's about a baby. now what do we do. one of the most common exceptions is an exception to abortion laws in cases where the mother's life is at risk. i'm entirely opposed to this language. it's an absolute scientific fact that no abortion is ever performed to save the life of the mother, none, zero, zilch. >> let that sink in, no exceptions for the life of the mother. if you somehow manage to get one to save your life, ed martin had his way, they might put you in prison. it shouldn't be surprising that antiabortion state leaders see an opening to intensify their persecution of women and doctors. on friday texas attorney general ken paxton announced he would be suing a new york doctor for providing abortion pills to a woman living in texas. let's bring our coverage president of reproductive freedom for all.

your thoughts. >> i mean this is project 2025 coming to life. this is everything we warned about and screamed about that just under half the country recognized, right? these guys are the extremest architects of some of the most cruel policies in this country. ed martin didn't just say the quiet part out loud. he's a right wing talk radio host. he gleefully proclaimed it out loud. so if anyone thought for five seconds that donald trump was going to moderate his tune, they were sorely mistaken. the thing that our exit polling and our work we're seeing in the field post the election that's important for us to remember, though, is that not all americans understood or still understand that the trump administration and all these appointees are so radical on abortion. he said he wants to leave it to the states. so what we have to do is educate the american people about ed martin and other

appointees that are deeply problematic, but also explain to them why the office of management and budget has anything to do with abortion and why this is so dangerous because it's not obvious on its face. >> let's hear more of ed. this is about a rape victim who was 10 years old. >> the true bane of the pro life movement is the pro lifers who claim to believe in the sanctity of human life but only willing to vote that way with a list of exceptions. this horrendous story in ohio where a 10-year-old child was raped, this 10-year-old was brought up as an example why abortion is necessary. now i have said over and over again that the examples that shouldn't be the rule, right? you can't let the exceptions be the rule, especially when you get engaged in debate. i refuse to do it. i refuse. >> ed refused to get engaged in the debate doesn't save the 10- year-old rape victim. what happens to them in donald

trump's america? >> nothing. they get to live out their misery. the consequences that those right wing extremists believe a 10-year-old rape victim should face. look, the critical difference between a trump administration as we're seeing it play out and the biden-harris administration which we are seeing come to an end is that the biden-harris administration was willing to use every tool in their toolbox, every arm of the federal government from doj to hhs to omb, et cetera to advance reproductive and to intervene when states were overreaching like such cases as emergency medical care in idaho, the case that went to the supreme court, or when their own authority like the fda were challenging medication abortion. we are now going to see not just an absence of activity from the federal government, but trained activists embedded in the government who will try to push an agenda using every tool they can find, including invoking things like comstock. >> this has been prime time

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