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there was some debate within the committee about releasing the report with committee republican chairman michael guest of mississippi announcing in a statement that he did not vote in favor of release. quote, while i do not challenge the committee's findings, i did not vote to support the release of the report and i take great exception that the majority deviated from the committee's well-established standards and voted to release a report on an individual no longer under the committee's jurisdiction. meanwhile democratic congressman glenn ivey of maryland said yesterday, that he did vote in favor and explained why. >> i thought it was important to finish up the work, release the report. i know the staff had done an outstanding and very thorough
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investigation given the substantial findings that we uncovered, i thought it was important to release the information, one is for guidance for current members even though gaetz left service in congress, it's important for current members to know what is over the line and what is it but also for the public, too, i've been talking about this even when he was the nominee i was saying, i thought this is information the senate should see. i think it's information that the public should see as well. >> nbc news reached out to the subjects of the report including gaetz, the unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson and the lawyers of gaetz accusers. while matt gaetz has said that he does not intend to return to the house seat, he was reelected to in the upcoming 119 congress, gaetz has hinted at a potential run for u.s. senate. >> many have asked which
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church i will be fighting from next and some of you throughout this conference have even given me a few suggestions, my fellow floridians have asked me to i the governor's mansion in tallahassee, maybe special counsel to go after the insider- trading from my former colleagues in congress, it seems i may not have had enough support in the united states senate, maybe i will run for marco rubio's seat and join some of those folks. >> republican senator marco rubio is leaving his seat in florida after he was tapped by president-elect trump to become secretary of state in the upcoming administration. in this report for gaetz, some of the text messages that were released yesterday from gaetz and some of the women involved are far too explicit and graphic to discuss on television but it overall paints a damning picture of behavior for someone who, a month or so back, donald trump thought was fit to serve as the united states attorney general. >> you are right, the report
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was quite damning, and it was kind of expected. some of the broader pieces had leaked prior to the release prior to the report. it was clear that he was accused of having sexual misconduct with an underage woman those reports came out earlier but i can't underscore what this means for the future of matt gaetz, and how he will repair, it'll be interesting to see how he tries to repair his reputation or as you say, discredit the findings of the ethics committee. >> let's dive into that a
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little bit more, kadia, he's slated to have a show on oa and that starts in a couple of weeks, he played a clip just now and hinted at a possible u.s. senate run. and he's someone who has a place of some prominence in the trump orbit even as an informal advisor. what are some possible paths for someone who let's recall, even before the report was released, was widely disliked on capitol hill. >> yeah, widely disliked but i have to say that in terms of john q public, he has a big presence especially on social media. he has a very successful podcast and as you mentioned, that is going to be, it'll probably transition all of that to this television show.
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matt gaetz has floated several different things. you talked about him running for senate possibly a gubernatorial run, i texted him yesterday and he actually well, he's even floated the idea of coming into congress, specifically for the speaker's race, voting and then leaving right after because he of course, as you mentioned, he did run and win for reelection for the 119 congress but again, i am looking at, will he be able to repair his reputation enough to have that talkshow again? that is very interesting, and i'm very curious if that is going to ruin it for him? >> let's turn to some of your new reporting looking at the tumble to this last week or so in the building behind you, republicans, struggling to unify over the continuing resolution with 38 republicans defying donald trump's wishes. we have real questions about speaker johnson's ability to hold onto his leadership post next year, donald trump is going to want to come in and hit the ground running but it seems like there is some real fractions within his party, tell us what you found? >> yeah, i mean, the funding
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debate we saw last week, i feel like is just a very mere image of what's going to happen next year in the 119 congress. the republicans have a very small majority, they can only afford to lose one or two votes every time they bring something to the table. so speaker johnson has to put on the floor one or two reconciliation bills but again, he has to fund the government as well as deal with the debt limit crisis which again, with such a fractured -- the country split half and half, you know,
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it's going to be difficult to rally all those republicans and you know, bring this unity that they were touting a couple of weeks ago after winning the election. it'll be difficult and they will need democrats, this probably hasn't sunk in for many members of august but they will need democrats going into the 119th congress. >> we learned ford motor company and general motors will donate cash and cars to donald trump's incoming inauguration. they pledged $1 million each along with a fleet of vehicles to the inauguration on january 20th. it comes as the trump transition team has threatened tariffs to possible changes to tax credits on electric vehicles and charging stations that would likely affect both automakers. ford and gm join other major companies like amazon, mentor and openai which have each plunged just pledged $1 million to the inauguration. both ford and gm also contributed to trump's inauguration in 2017 and biden's
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inauguration in 2020. some of this is normal, but this is not a normal president. and i think it's been, eyebrows have been raised across the country about just how, the efforts, some of these business leaders are taking, the paper they're taking to cozy up to donald trump as he gets set back to office, it shows fear on their parts, i think, about what his policies will be. >> i think democrats would say these companies are currying favor with the president-elect because he has announced such you know, drastic tariffs which will inevitably increase costs for americans. i think that's obviously interesting, because like you said, most people or most companies do this anyway, they will contribute to the incoming president but but this is may be a model or a suggestion that president-elect trump's ideas of like stoking fear before he actually comes into office could actually be working. some of his tactics, imposing what he says he's going to
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impose on various countries, we saw, different heads of state, visiting mar-a-lago behind this announcement, so this could be a very smart tactic on the president-elect part. >> thanks for starting us off on this holiday week. turning to other headlines, former president bill clinton was hospitalized in washington, d.c. yesterday after he developed a fever. a spokesperson for clinton tells nbc news the 78-year-old was admitted to medstar georgetown hospital for testing and observation after spiking a high fever but he's now in good spirits. a source close to the former president said the situation is not urgent and clinton is awake and alert. our best wishes the former president and his family.
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a man has been charged in connection with the death of a woman who police say he intentionally set on fire inside a new york city subway car over the weekend. officials arrested a 33-year- old man who is charged with first-degree murder and arson after he allegedly lit the woman on fire and watched her burn. according to immigrations and customs, he is an undocumented immigrant from guatemala who last lived in a homeless shelter in brooklyn. ice officials say he was detained and deported shortly after crossing the border into arizona in 2018 but illegally crossed the border again at an unknown time and place. new york governor hochul's office released a statement saying in part, this, criminal should be on notice, new york is watching you and we will catch you and we will prosecute described to the fullest extent of the law. this was a horrific attack and
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governor hochul is deeply grateful for law enforcement for catching the suspect. still ahead, holiday travel across the u.s. might get a little messy today, christmas eve, amid rain, snow and freezing temperatures. we will get a check on the forecast. american airlines passengers are seeing delays this morning after the company reported an outage. such a busy travel day, now, more complications. we will get a live report from chicago's o'hare airport. we are back in just 90 seconds. s
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news justin, american airlines is resuming operations after grounding all of its flights this morning due to an unspecified technical issue. representatives from american told nbc news flights are starting to board again and it's starting to see improvement. this comes on a very busy travel day, christmas eve and joining us now from chicago o'hare airport, is correspondent adrian broadus, good to see you. how are things, it's already a busy day, you know, right before the holiday and this, another complication and bad weather, too, how is this affecting things here at o'hare? >> reporter: the chaos came at the worst possible time as travelers are determined to get home, trying to get there in time, for the start of christmas and hanukkah. >> this morning, winter weather
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from coast-to-coast, pitting during the last minute travel rush, with americans racing to get home before christmas and the start of hanukkah. >> a day delay could mean that we don't get home for christmas. >> delays and cancellations piling up and tensions rising. overnight a selfless plane forced to return to the phoenix airport after he reported altercation on board. today, travelers may need more patients as a storm in the midwest and the northeast with 20 million under a winter weather advisory is expected to cause more delays and traffic but could also bring a white christmas for some, snow, already falling in pennsylvania. winter weather also wild on the west coast where a major storm hit california's central coast. hurricane force winds causing dangerously high surf. a man dying after getting trapped under debris.
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and a wharf, collapsing more than 10 miles away in santa cruz, throwing three people into the water, who, thankfully survived. >> there are no serious injuries involved in that and we believe everyone who went into the water is now accounted for. >> back in the midwest, while americans are hoping the wintry weather clears out, some, taking matters into their own hands, choosing to head to warmer weather, in chicago, this family is heading to puerto rico. >> what are you most looking forward to this holiday? >> being with my family. >> others, despite delays, already embracing the spirit of the season. . >> again, american airlines citing a technical issue that ground stop lasted about 45 minutes but the timing, not good for the airline. it comes when they were expecting record travel, expecting to see 12 million travelers with the airline this
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holiday. back to you. the flights are also impacted by bad weather and let's take a look at that now and break and michelle grossman for the forecast. how's it looking out there? >> happy christmas eve. we have hiccups when it comes to weather today because we are looking at rain on the west coast, mountain snow as well and in the northeast, looking at snow, really pretty right now in the northeast. let's take a look at radar, that is telling us the overall story, you can see the blue in the west, that's the mountain snow and we have heavy rain falling, same story in the south central states, we had
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lightning a couple of hours ago and we anticipate seeing storms later on this afternoon. and then we are looking at the snow falling in the northeast. still the neighborhood roads are covered and driveways, it's like out there. here's your christmas eve forecast, the slick a.m. travel, and the northeast, we could see winds gusting up to 60 miles per hour, even hail, and looking at a series of storms, still coming into the west coast, so heavy rain and also snow. that will impact the airlines for sure. looking at likely delays in seattle, san francisco, possible delays in los angeles. and we are going to see slowdowns on the roadways as well. also, the northeast, it looks good in the ohio valley, southwest, the southwest is going to be warm for today. christmas day, we will be chris -- crystal clear in the northeast. look outside the window of 30 rock, it looks really pretty with the snow falling. >> there, we see it, next to the rockefeller christmas tree
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by the time january 20th comes around, these poor people, those that are still alive, will have been held longer than the iranians held hostages in 1979, with the carter to reagan transition that's totally unacceptable and writ large, there has never been enough consequences and that's what we need to be talking about with these people. you take an american, you illegally detained than if you are a nationstate or if you are a terrace and you hold them hostage, there will be to pay, there will be nothing but consequences for you financially and maybe even a bullet in your four head if you take an american, period. it was trump's pick for national security advisor, republican comes mike walls of florida speaking to ben shapiro
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in an interview sunday. he warned of a zero tolerance approach to the taking of american hostages in regards to the middle east and the ongoing war between israel and hamas. mark, we are grateful you're joining us this morning. let's start there with the words of the incoming national security advisor promising a zero tolerance approach, for those who take american hostages even threatening a bullet in the four head, what do you think? >> i'm not sure what this thread entails, you know, israel has in essence, flattened gaza, they've conducted a brutal and frankly effective campaign against hamas, so when mike walton says these things which sounds good, talking tough but i'm not sure what that means falling through, are we going to encourage the israelis to do more in gaza? i don't see how that translates into anything they haven't done already, perhaps he's talking about holding iran responsible.
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but ultimately, these are threads i'm not sure how we carry them out and let's also not forget prime minister benjamin netanyahu gave an interview to the wall street journal several days ago and he actually said even if there was a limited hostage release, the war would not end and this caused consternation amongst the hostage families in israel. we are on this proverbial 10 yard line with the cease-fire and hostage deal and walls is right, the trump administration is going to inherit this problem but i don't know what his words actually mean effectively in terms of pushing hamas to finally agree. >> let's dive in further. there's been speculation that things might change when trump comes in. he's been so overtly supportive of benjamin netanyahu and his efforts, the two men have been political allies, do you think
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trump might be able to sway benjamin netanyahu in a way that biden was not able to or perhaps benjamin netanyahu would want to do a political favor for the incoming president ? >> these are great questions but there certainly is this tacit alliance between benjamin netanyahu and drum. some see some of these threats not only laid out at the foot of hamas but also to the israelis like get this deal done. we want this to be over. one of the things that i don't think we follow closely enough is there is a history of israelis not just ignoring what president biden wanted them to do but also over the years, ignoring other u.s. leaders. in 1982 the israelis struck a nuclear reactor in iraq and in 2008 the israelis struck a north korean built reactor in syria against the wishes of president george w. bush. so we will see, the dynamic, really between trump and bb,
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that is going to set the stage, particularly on that stage. >> europe, their stance in support of ukraine under new strain, after slovakia's prime minister made a surprise visit to moscow in recent days for talks with russian president putin on natural gas as well as the conflict in ukraine. his visit follows the example of hungary's example, viktor orban to isolate primitive -- he has shifted the stance on the war and the political opposition is slovakia called his visit a disgrace. mark, this paymaster has always been warmer to putin then most so perhaps not surprising but it still places a new strain on these united eu as we head towards january 20th when suddenly the united states is commitment to ukraine will come
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very much into question. >> that's right, so, you know if you're sitting in kyiv if you are the leadership, you are of course worried about what president trump is going to do. it still remains to be seen, we have a new u.s. ally who's going to be sent to do these peace talks, but we don't know what the trump administration's policy will be other than ending the war but that shifts of course to what happens in europe and it will be critical to allow ukraine to survive in this war, so, what happened with the slovakian visit is something to really be cautious and be wary about of course, on top of viktor orban and his support, but we are going to see some strains in that alliance and that should be of great concern to many and we
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heard zelenskyy be open to negotiations but no specifics as to what sort of agreement would be acceptable. let's turn now to greenland which the prime minister is responding to trump's renewed calls for purchasing the autonomous territory from denmark. trump made the comment on social media on sunday while announcing his pick for u.s. embassy to, he of course speculated about this in his first term as well, and in response, greenland's prime minister released a statement yesterday that reads in part, greenland is ours, we are not for sale and you will never be for sale. we must not lose our long struggle for freedom. this is the first time trump has floated the idea as mentioned, back in 2019 he told reporters he was interested in purchasing the island. danish officials said it was not for sale and then trump
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turned around and canceled a state trip to denmark. mark, i think some on the right find this funny, the idea that he's thinking of purchasing greenland and some think that's a good idea. it's obviously not for sale but it's part of the pattern where we see trump before he even comes to office, start to bully some of our neighbors here, canada, with the tariffs and suggesting it should become the 51st state, greenland, and this week, demanding returning of the panama can now, to u.s. control, which, some suggest really could destabilize the region and cost panama to cozy up instead to some of their adversaries. >> right, i think we all have some posttraumatic stress from the first trump administration where the where there were these outlandish foreign-policy anthen we all react in horror, so he's done it again in a matter of days whether it is mexico, canada calling canada the 51st state, now greenland, and of course, the idea about panama. one thing i think about is perhaps we should not react to this because this is outlandish, the u.s. is now acting like this in.
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-- imperialist bully. all of these ideas are preposterous. so i wonder, and i fall victim to this, too, the outrage that these sort of truth social posts generate, is it really worth it but i think you make a very good point because it does have an effect overseas. this is not the america, we are, these are foreign-policy and national security issues that are far from the most important for the united states whether the fight against isis, the russia ukraine war and here we are talking about these preposterous statements. >> yes, and i'm sure there will be more to come. thank you, my friend, happy holidays to you. up next, the atlantic's mark leibovitz argues that lawmakers are procrastinating when it comes to having
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welcome back, independent senator joe manchin of west virginia is said to leave congress after 15 years. he's now calling the party that he was once part of, toxic. he left the democratic party earlier this year to become an independent issued a series of warnings and a sunday interview and explained the parties approach has become too critical for americans blaming progressives for the ship
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saying, the d brand has been so maligned from the standpoint of, it's just toxic. he said the country is quote not going left and the party is now occupied with social concerns. joining us now staff writer at the atlanta, mark leibovich. he has a new piece on what he calls, the politics of procrastination titled, have the conversation before it's too late. thank you for joining us this morning. so, tell us what you mean in your new piece, what conversation are these politicians, democrats, putting off? >> the notion of, this is an important conversation we must
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have, it's kind of a verbal tic, it's become the first dogs that people, when asked about an issue they don't want to talk about or trying to stall for time, they will put that out there. ultimately, it came down to what are larger issues which is the postponing of conversations whether it's the national debt, whether it is in the case of the democratic party, you know, what the future is an essentially democrats and i think you sort of get into this in the intro, have really put off trying to figure out who they are and i think one of the reasons for that is they haven't had a real primary in a while, and ultimately, since barack obama, they have put off conversations about who their future leaders really are because think about it, after obama was elected in 2008, he obviously served two terms, hillary clinton came in, people figured it was her turn and she didn't win and then there was this emergency situation in
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2020 thinking we will just go with the guy that is familiar and then biden ran and wanted to run away and we ultimately know what happened. there are many conversations, and i get into specifics here, one being joe biden's age, that democrats put off that keep sort of getting procrastinated and kicked down the road, and ultimately, i think it's been a detriment to a lot of people in politics. >> mark let's dive in on that, do you think they are procrastinating right now in terms of figuring out how to transform the party or just the party after this election because there does seem to be a divide between those who say look, well he only lost by a point or so let's not overreact and others who say they need to make wholesale changes. >> no decisions are being made now. i think democrats are very much trying to find their footing about how to even talk about what this election meant and what it means going forward. but i think look, there is
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going to be, i think a status quo argument in the next few years that says look, kamala harris, nearly won this race, why don't we just stick with something tried and true whether it's kamala harris or whether the, you know, something that is familiar to people, i assume, joe biden, i assume, obviously, hillary clinton or michelle obama are not going to run so theoretically this could be determined by whoever emerges in 2028 as the candidate and that becomes the defining mechanism of the party. >> you are a definitive chronicler of gop affinity to trump. we did see a little bit of defiance from republicans last week during the cr debate. you think that's a one and done or perhaps a foreshadowing whether it's during the cabinet confirmation process or during some of his policy roles that were other members of the gop might say no to trump? >> it's the big question right now. i think there are two separate
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things, obviously for confirmation, talking about the senate. so the voting architecture, obviously the divide is different and look, there will be personalities in the middle, trump will be pressing very hard for people that he wants to fight for, pete hegseth is one of them, presumably rfk is one of them. the majority is incredibly slim, we're talking like three by the time these vacancies shape up. i think look, this has been the dynamic from the last few congresses which is individual republican congress people have great leverage here, and intend to use it and yes, donald trump wields a lot of power but that
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will erode over time as it gets closer to lame-duck status and also, as this sort of gets done before, people survive this. >> that's a key point that i think we need to explore a lot next year, he comes in the door, as a lame-duck and can't run again. the new pieces online, staff writer for the atlanta, mark leibovich, thanks for joining us. still ahead, the next guest says our founding fathers are a great example of how different political views can strengthen relationships. we will dig into that and how you can find common political ground with your loved ones this holiday season. we will be right back.
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time for a look at some of the other stories making headlines. the new york times is having questions about an aging congress, after it was revealed that a republican house member 81-year-old kay granger of texas, had been living in a retirement home for months, and largely absent from capitol hill. her son tells the dallas morning news that ms. granger who is retiring, had been experiencing dementia issues. in 2023, the new york times touted 20 lawmakers who are at least 80 years old. no one knew this congresswoman was in this facility. meanwhile, more than 5000 starbucks workers are expected to walk off the job this morning before their five-day work stoppage and later on today.
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the union is striking over wages, staffing and scheduling concerns. workers say there could be more strikes to come and the company said it remains ready to continue talks. and the manslaughter case against alec baldwin is now officially over, after the special prosecutor moved to withdraw her appeal of a judge's order dismissing the case. the actor had faced charges over the 2021 shooting death of cinematographer helene hutchinson during the filming of the movie, rest. baldwin argued he was not responsible for gun safety on the set. he does still face a civil case, though, in the state of new mexico. still ahead, the man accused of killing unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson, makes his first court appearance in new york. we will have the latest on that case and more in another hour of live coverage, we will be back, after the break. the break. three — i want a nonsurgical recovery. ♪♪ four — i want options — nonsurgical options.
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welcome back. here just before 9:00 in the east on this christmas eve, according to a recent nonpartisan survey, democrats are scaling back on the time with family members they don't agree with politically. axios reports that according to a survey conducted after the 2024 election by the public religion research institute, democrats are almost five times as likely as republicans to say they'll spend less time with family members of differing political beliefs. our next guest is an expert in the art of healthy disagreement
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and finding civility. the author of the book, which has the title "the soul of civility." alexandra joins us now. thanks for being here. let's start with your reaction to that news there that people, democrats more than republicans, are making choices to not spend time with family members, to not spend time with loved ones because they simply don't agree with them politically. >> i'm not surprised by it and, to me, that is the crisis of our political polarization that nobody is talking about. this is affecting our institutions, our inability to co-exist peacefully across deep differences which is the topic of my book and the most important question of our day, but the crisis is personal. people are ending friendships, ending lifelong relationships with loved ones over political difference and that's not how it should be, and that's why i love the story of how thomas jefferson and john adams and their lost and reconciled
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friendship shows us that. >> so let's talk about your book. and in it you discuss the importance of civility in political discourse. you write in part this, when we are uncivil to others, we hurt ourselves. the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. wrote that racist laws gave the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. like segregation, incivility deforms the soul of both the abuser and the abused. also, like segregation, incivility often tes from a low personhood. often people lash out at others because of their own inaccurate view of self. this can manifest in their deriving their validation in abusing others but harming others only makes them feel lesser. appreciating the gift of being human, and realizing that when we hurt others with our incivility, we hurt ourselves --
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is central to reclaiming basic decency in our world. so, alexandra, important words there. how would you -- what lessons can people who are perhaps preparing to sit down with loved ones here over christmas or hanukkah or other gatherings during these holidays, what lessons can they take from what you write in how to approach people they might disagree with? >> i think it's important to remember that conflict doesn't have to spell the end of relationships, that the goal of life with others isn't to never have conflict. conflict is an inevitable part of relationships and life with others. that conflict can actually be a source of strengthening the bonds we have with others and it's not about -- it's about how we do conflict and whether we reconcile. and here is what i mean by that. how we do conflict, are we respecting the other when we engage in a debate over opinions. are we keeping the bond and the
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love of the others front of mind or are we going scorched earth, willing to do or say anything in order to win the debate. i say this as someone who does conflict imperfectly myself. and then it's about whether we reconcile that determines whether conflict can strengthen bonds or spell the end of them. at the end of a conflict or debate, do we come around the shared relationship and say, you know what, at the end of the day we're still committed to this thing called life together with others, committed to this relationship. so conflict doesn't have to spell the end of a relationship. it can actually strengthen it. it depends how we do conflict, respect the other amid the conflict, and do we reconcile at the end. >> really important words and we wish everyone luck these holidays. author alexandra hudson, thank you so much. her new book "the soul of civility -- timeless principles to heal society and ourselves" is on sale now. it is now just past the top of the hour on this tuesday, december 24th, christmas eve.
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i'm jonathan lemire, and you're taking a live look just outside our studios here at rockefeller plaza. some snow in the air and the beautiful christmas tree. santa getting ready to visit. we'll begin this hour with the newly released house ethics committee report on former congressman matt gaetz. the bipartisan report details evidence gathered by the committees surrounding multiple allegations of sexual abuse and drug use. joining us now with more details, nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist. aaron, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, good morning. matt gaetz was president-elect trump's first choice to be the nation's taupe law enforcement officer. he withdrew his name after eight days after allegations of sexual misconduct hurt his chances of confirmation by the senate. gaetz has denied any wrongdoing. today the political damage from that ethics report is mounting. former florida congressman matt gaetz facing new scrutiny this
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morning with the house ethics committee releasing an explosive report on its years long investigation finding substantial evidence that gaetz violated house rules related to prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors and privileges and obstruction of congress and may have violated state laws. gaetz has already faced an investigation into the same allegations by the constituent department which ultimately declined to bring charges. gaetz has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing and in a series of social media posts denied paying for sex, but the committee says it heard testimony from more than half a dozen witnesses who attended parties, events and trips with gaetz from 2017 to 2020 and that nearly every young woman that the committee interviewed confirmed that she was paid for sex by or on behalf of gaetz. >> we had a chance to interview these women in particular and directly, and the staff and the members have concluded that the allegations had merit.
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>> reporter: the committee also detailed $90,000 in payments to 12 different women that investigators concluded was likely used to pay for sex and illicit drugs. while the committee says the record overwhelmingly suggests gaetz had sex with a 17-year-old girl twice at a party in 2017 and that she was paid, the committee says it has no evidence that gaetz was aware she was a minor at the time. gaetz was president-elect trump's controversial first choice to be his attorney general. >> i'm looking forward to a hearing. folks have been very supportive. >> reporter: and withdrew his name within days of the controversy, but he still shows no signs of abandoning politics, even floating a possible florida senate run. >> maybe i'll just run for marco rubio's vacant seat in the united states senate. >> reporter: now, because gaetz is no longer a member of congress, the ethics committee chairman argued it would be a bad precedent to release the report. others believe it was in the public's best interest, one saying it's important to show congress is trying to keep its
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own house in order. back over to you. >> all right. nbc news white house correspondent, aaron gilchrist. aaron, thank you so much. let's now bring in state attorney for palm beach county, florida. dave, i know you've been following this matter closely. a few questions for you but let's just start with the basics. your reaction to what you read yesterday in this report. some surprising, some not. and keep in mind this is someone, matt gaetz, donald trump thought was fit to have the top law enforcement position in the nation as attorney general. >> good morning, jonathan. yes, even for those of us who follow this closely, the report's details were pretty striking. joel greenberg, who was the property appraiser of seminole county was so brazen, he texted openly about paying for sex and pimping out his wing man, a congressman, matt gaetz, who would later be trump's choice for attorney general. matt gaetz says the department
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of justice's decision not to prosecute him is an exoneration of him. the report shows how false that is, and the report didn't just make matt gaetz look bad. it also made the department of justice look bad because the doj said they didn't have enough corroboration to move forward with an indictment, but the committee said they had multiple witnesses that said they saw matt gaetz have sex with this then 17-year-old girl, but something else in the report struck me, and that is the report said matt gaetz paid the young woman $400 in cash, not through venmo. that would seem to be a break from what he allegedly did with other young women. perhaps that's why the doj didn't charge here, they can't prove a commercial sex act to prove human trafficking you have to show an exchange of money or something of value. since this was cash and not venmo, perhaps the doj said, you know, we don't trust these key witnesses, joel greenberg, and the then 17-year-old girl who is
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in sex work now, and because he paid in cash, they decide to give him a pass. i do think the doj will have to answer questions about this report's release. >> that's where i wanted to go next. let's dive deeper into that. there is always some surprise throughout this process that from what we knew of the case through media reporting and what happened to his associate that gaetz hadn't been charged and now especially after this report sees the light of day, i think your casual observer would remain very surprised the doj opted not to bring any charges. you hit on one possible explanation. what else could doj have used to rationalize not going the whole way and issuing an arrest warrant? >> jonathan, i think there was a higher burden for doj when it comes to a political leader, a maga leader. i know justice is supposed to be blind. but merrick garland has taken great pains to show he is apolitical. he's above politics. and i think before they went after one of trump's top
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lieutenants, they wanted to make sure they had the goods, and i just thought they perhaps thought there would be other witnesses who could come forward under oath like matt gaetz's then girlfriend who could have been the key witness. she was no ax to grind. apparently she did not give matt gaetz up. and as for a state prosecution, there's a statute in florida, section 793.05 that makes it a second-degree felony to engage in sexual activity with a 16 or 17-year-old when the individual is 24 years of age or older, but the statute of limitations is only three years after the victim turns 18. this victim is apparently around 24 years old now, so that ship has sailed. the only way to prosecute him now would be for sex trafficking, but state prosecutors are not going to do a case that the feds have dropped. they're not going to move forward with this case unless there's more corroboration themselves, and they just don't have it. don't expect matt gaetz to be
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prosecuted for any of this. in the court of opinion, that's something else. >> truly damaging. dave, stay with us. we want to get you on another story. as you know, there have been questions surrounding trump's choice to lead the fbi kash patel and his enemies' list. here is what john fedderman of pennsylvania said sunday about his recent discussion with patel. >> you met with kash patel, i believe, right? >> yesterday, well, yes. >> he's talked about going after trump's enemies. >> yeah, and i've -- and we've had conversations, but we had all of these interviews were all off the record, and those things, so i'm not going to go into detail but he absolutely is -- that's never going to happen. like, he was very -- >> he's not going to use the fbi to go after trump's enemies? >> no, that's not it.
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>> did you believe him? >> that's what he claims. >> so, dave, senator fedderman says kash patel says, no, no, no, there's no enemies list. i'm not going after anybody. he wrote it down. there's an enemies list in his book plain on the page, and we also know that for months now donald trump has openly speculated about people he would like to see targeted and prosecuted, former members of his own administration, current and former lawmakers, even members of the media. so what do you make of this? is kash patel saying what he feel needs to be said in order to be confirmed? do you think the danger still looms? >> yes. kash patel needs to get confirmed, and he doesn't want to be like matt gaetz. i really like john fedderman. i like senator fedderman, but you don't want to be like senator susan collins who believed in justice kavanaugh, who also believed that president trump was chastened and will be
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a new man. she was wrong on both counts. you want to keep your eyes wide open here. now i know kash patel. used to be a public defender down here in south florida. he can be a very likeable guy. in recent years, he has been a true believer in the maga movement. he seems to have been somewhat radicalized by being investigated himself over russia. so what's going to happen next? i'm not sure. i do know he will go after trump's enemies. i think pam bondi is a safeguard there. i do not believe she's going to walk out trump's enemies in handcuffs unless there's real evidence. this is different than a matt gaetz attorney general position. i do think there's hope some guardrails remain, but i don't know if i can believe every word out of someone's mouth when they are trying desperately to get confirmed by the u.s. senate. >> patel has sort of stayed out of the spotlight in recent weeks as some of trump's other picks have gotten scrutiny.
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dave, we have one more legal story i want to get your take on. the man accused of killing united healthcare ceo brian thompson has pleaded not guilty to the state charges that he's facing in new york. it comes as the lawyer for luigi mangione is accusing new york city mayor eric adams of staging her client's perp walk last week. stephanie gosk has the latest. >> reporter: in new york state court for the first time luigi mangione entering a not guilty plea for the 11 criminal charges he faces in the killing of united healthcare ceo brian thompson. >> guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> reporter: mangione seen smiling at times during monday's arraignment as his attorney karen agnifilo addressed the judge. >> he is being treated like a human ping-pong ball. >> reporter: criticizing how officials have handled her client saying his case has bob
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politicized and he's been treated like a spectacle. >> he was on display for everyone to see in the biggest staged perp walk i have ever seen in my career. it was absolutely unnecessary. >> reporter: mangione's attorney called out new york city mayor eric adams over these comments he made on local news. >> i want to look him in the eye and state that you carried out this terrorist act in my city. >> reporter: she argues the mayor possibly tainted the jury pool. >> those are the people that elected him, that he is talking to and calling this man a terrorist. >> reporter: a spokesperson for the mayor says adams' priority is public safety and his goal was to send a message that violence and vitriol have no place in new york city. now prosecutors will work to prove mangione's guilt. among the 26-year-old's charges, first-degree murder in the furtherance of terrorism. he has already pleaded not guilty to four federal criminal charges. outside of the courthouse on monday -- >> what do we want? >> health care. >> when do we want it? >> now.
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>> reporter: dozens of protesters voiced anger with the health insurance industry and support for the accused killer. >> mangione's attorney far from the only person expressing surprise eric adams is part of that perp walk, dave. and let's set aside the idea there are protests. they can be angry at the health care industry. you can't be supportive of someone accused of murdering a man in cold blood, a father at that. dave, let's talk and stick to the upcoming trial here in terms of how you see this playing out. this could be a long and drawnout process. >> the attorney here, karen friedman agnifilo has a point, luigi mangione is being used as political fodder by mayor adams and there was no need to have that perp walk and you don't want to make him into more of a martyr than he already is.
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there's a sixth amendment right to a fair trial. the trial, i think there's a lot of evidence against this guy. he should spend the rest of his life behind bars. you don't want to overcharge because that loses credibility in the eyes of the juror. ask in the daniel penny subway case. that's my concern. even if the state messes up, the feds are there and the death penalty will be on the table. this guy isn't getting out of prison anytime soon. >> dave aronberg covering a lot of ground for us this morning. thank you, dave. >> thank you. coming up here, we'll dig into the fallout from the legal complaint filed by actress blake lively against her co-star in the film "it ends with us." american airlines is resuming flights this morning after a short ground stop. we'll bring you an update on the
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technical issue that is impacting holiday travel across the country. we're back in just 90 seconds, and we take a look here at the santa tracker. santa and the reindeer, their journey has begun arriving at your home soon. ♪ [music] i could open the garage ♪ ♪ for sam's band entourage ♪ ♪ protect them from the rain ♪ ♪ ♪ my garage i'd be closing ♪ ♪ while i'm hiking in wyoming ♪ ♪ if my home just had a brain ♪
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resumed after planes were briefly grounded due to what the company called a technical issue. the airline, though, is still seeing significant delays due to that 45-minute halt and is urging travelers to check the updated status of their flights before they go to the airport. american airlines just issued a statement, it reads in part this way, a vendor technology issue briefly affected flights this morning. adding that it's all hands on deck as our team is working diligently to get customers where they need to go as quickly as possible. of course, christmas eve a very busy travel day, and there's bad weather complicating the picture as well. turning now to other headlines. actress blake lively is getting some high-profile support after she filed a legal complaint against her co-star and director in the movie "it ends with us." meanwhile, a lawyer representing justin baldoni is pushing back against blake lively's allegations. nbc news entertainment
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correspondent has the latest. >> reporter: this morning new developments in the blake lively/justin baldoni dispute. a fellow cast member in "it ends with us" siding with lively following her explosive legal complaint against her co-star and the film's director. >> he's never been the same. >> reporter: jenny slate, who plays baldoni's sister, as blake lively's castmate and friend, i voice my support as she takes action against those who reported and planned to carry out an attack on her reputation. slate did not mention baldoni or anyone else but added the attack on blake is terribly dark, disturbing, and wholly threatening. lively says baldoni repeatedly sexually harassed her on set and crossed boundaries during intimate scenes. his longtime publicist is defending herself against lively's claim that she was a victim of a retaliatory social manipulation campaign on balance doany's behalf. according to rolling stone and
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other outlets who viewed her since deleted facebook post, she says her team never actually launched any campaign to smear lively. nbc news has reached out to abel but has not heard back. according to the complaint, crisis pr was retained, the same johnny depp hired during his high-profile defamation trial against former wife amber heard. heard also weighed in writing, a lie travels halfway around the world before truth can get its boots on. it's as horrifying as it is destructive. a lawyer representing baldoni and his production company wayfarer studios, called lively's allegations completely false, outrageous and intentionally salacious with an intent to rehash a narrative in the media. balance doany's attorney defending the publicity team writing tag p.r. must be the most powerful group of publicists the world has ever
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welcome back. from donald trump's criminal conviction and the two attempts on his life to president biden ceding the nomination to kamala harris, one of the most historic in recent history. >> reporter: it may be the biggest political comeback in modern american history. >> this was, i believe, the greatest political movement of all time. >> reporter: donald trump heading back to the white house after a year of a dramatic highs and lows. the former president locking up the republican nomination with ease back in march. then, along the way to election day, battling two federal legal cases and a conviction in new york for falsifying business records in an attempt to cover up a hush money payment. >> that is 34 felony counts here all guilty verdicts. >> reporter: trump supporters
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undeterred believing he could best tackle the economy and immigration. >> i'm the only one in history who got indicted and my numbers went up. >> reporter: initially set for a rematch against president joe biden. >> i'm still the only person to ever beat donald trump. >> reporter: they made history as the oldest major party presidential candidates ever in an american election, a concern for voters as whispers about biden's mental fitness grew louder. >> the special counsel referred to the president as a, quote, sympathetic, well-meaning and elderly man with a poor memory. >> my memory is fine. >> reporter: that first debate in june setting off three weeks of unprecedented political upheaval. >> look, if we finally beat med scare -- >> this night got off to a tough start for president biden. >> i think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this a condition? >> reporter: calls for biden to end his re-election campaign sidelined by an unthinkable
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twist. >> take a look at what happened -- >> the 45th resident of the united states injured but alive. >> all of this unfolding with republicans now gathering to officially nominate donald trump at their convention. >> reporter: with his ear bandaged, the former president accepting the nomination, two days after the attempt on his life. >> i stand before you in this arena only by the grace of almighty god. >> reporter: that same week biden testing positive for covid. >> news broke of different democratic leaders calling for the president to step aside. >> my fellow americans -- >> reporter: days later, the president ending his re-election bid. >> i revere this office, but i love my country more. >> reporter: endorsing his vice president, kamala harris, and up-ending the race with just over 100 days until the election. >> we choose freedom.
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♪ freedom, freedom ♪ ♪ freedom cut me loose ♪ >> thank you, thank you. >> reporter: harris campaigning on the issues of abortion rights and protecting democracy. >> ours is a fight for the future. >> reporter: trump pivoting to his new opponent. >> i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. >> reporter: a convention coronation in august. >> i accept your nomination to be president of the united states of america. >> reporter: trump and harris meeting for the first time in their only debate. >> i've never seen a worst period of time, people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else. >> the government and donald trump, certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. >> reporter: the dang ers of ou nation's divisiveness on display. >> the fbi says another possible
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attempt on former president trump's life. >> reporter: by fall the critical battleground blitz. >> i'm a gun owner. >> i did not know that. >> if somebody breaks in my house, they're getting shot. >> the biggest enemy is the enemy from within. >> reporter: polls show a razor thin margin, candidates bringing out big names, podcast interviews taking center stage with both harris and trump taking to the mics. and, on election night -- >> these aren't the trend lines democrats are going to want to see. >> reporter: -- a decisive victory. >> we are predicting the next president of the united states is donald trump. >> the 45th president of the united states will become the 47th president of the united states. >> reporter: the electoral map a sea of red. the president-elect sweeping every battleground state. >> trump is overperforming. harris is underperforming the county she needs to win. >> reporter: increased support from women, independents, latino and black voters, becoming the first republican to win the
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popular vote since 2004. >> in new york city trump has posted a 15-point gain from the last time around. >> reporter: the gop taking total control of washington ousting democrats to secure a three-seat majority in the senate and keeping control of the house, an election year like no other. and one we won't soon forget. kate snow, nbc news. >> our thanks to kate snow there. and joining us now, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, sue and del percio, and race and politics reporter cheyenne daniels. susan, let's start with you. i mean, we lived it day to day. i think it's easy sometimes to lose sight of the big picture. let's just talk about the nature of this comeback from donald trump who left office the first time around in disgrace. two weeks after january 6th, faced four criminal indictments, convicted in one, and survived
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two assassination attempts. but so many times he seemed like his political day in the sun was over, and yet his grip on the republican party only tightened and he won, becoming only the second man after grover cleveland, to win a second term nonconsecutively. >> it was amazing and watching what we saw before that clip from kate snow was, i thought that could have been a decade. if we would have seen then as closing out 2009 and saying the decade that was, but this all happened in one year. and donald trump, from 2020 to 2024, what he was able to accomplish, and really, it is an accomplishment to be able to keep his base so tight, so together, he never stopped campaigning, i think, in part, is one of the reasons why he was able to kind of stay strong. he also used his influence at every movement whether it be in getting involved in a primary debate or a primary, rather, for
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senator for the house, he inserted himself. he was there nonstop. it will be interesting to see what the democrats do for the next four years without having a president in office and no clear successor to -- who is going to be in control of the democratic party. >> cheyenne, it was certainly historic on the democratic side as well, as kate just detailed for us, remarkable moment as president joe biden has to abandon his re-election bid after pressure from his own party. let's just talk a little bit about the historic nature of kamala harris' run where she was only given 100-odd days, inherited real political head winds, an unpopular incumbent, and yet she came so really, really close. >> yeah, absolutely. and it's really interesting, too, when you talk about the historic nature of her election, how much that meant to the core base of the democratic party, black voters, particularly black women, and what was really
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interesting, what stood out to me especially on election night or election week, if you wanted to, even following her loss was how many people were pointing to the odds that she was up against from what would it mean, is america ready to have not just a black president which we already had but a black female president and what would happen, you know, if she were not to win black men over what she did and then many people pointing out she came in with only 100 days, so many people, even though they were disappointed with the election results, were still standing there defending her, defending her campaign, how she came in, and what she stood for. i think that really shows sort of the excitement that she was able to gear up within that base of black voters, voters of color, and especially young voters of color. >> cheyenne, you're absolutely right about that. she did hold on to the black vote, black men vote, even though there was speculation trump was making inroads there. but where democrats and harris
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did lose support was latinos, particularly latino men. look forward to us, how do democrats try to win that support back? >> i think they need to spend more time speaking to latino voters earlier. when you think about how the harris campaign went about trying to reach these voters, we didn't really hear a lot until after the madison square garden debacle, and then we started to see ads really targeting these groups of voters and really trying to say this is what this candidate over here is doing. here is what our candidate would do. it's just taking that step forward to be able to come out a little bit earlier. again, i think a lot of that came because many were saying she was going to not win over black men, and, in reality, she had their support. it's a little bit of a re-assessment to be able to go into, even midterms in two years, and say, we waited too
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long to speak to this demographic. we have to break it down, too, and remember latino voters aren't a monolith. we say that about black voters. it needs to be applied, and get out just as early to talk to latino voters as we do for black voters. >> let's get your take on the tumult last week we saw on capitol hill. do you think it points to chaos going forward? are republicans willing from time to time to defy donald trump? >> oh, i think they will be willing to defy donald trump especially if they can do it in bigger numbers. one of the things about -- i think it was plan b when we saw 38 house members, republican house members, vote against what the president-elect wanted was because they were, in fact, numbers. he promised in primaries and all of that. with 38, he's not going to run 38 primaries. that much is clear. and i think the president right now, i don't think it matters that much -- i should say the president-elect -- because he's testing everything.
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right now he's just seeing how far he can push the limits. maybe he'll try harder when he is in office, but i would expect some pushback. >> race and politics reporter for the hill, cheyenne daniels. thank you so much for joining us this morning. susan, please stick around a little while longer. still ahead here a man rescued by the coast guard during hurricane milton is now sharing his harrowing story. what he's saying about how he ended up floating on a cooler off florida's gulf coast. we'll be right back with that. h. , you may be at risk for developing geographic atrophy, or ga. ga can be unpredictable—and progress rapidly—leading to irreversible vision loss. now there's something you can do to... ♪ ( slow. it. down.) ♪ ♪ ( get it goin' slower.)♪ ask your doctor about izervay. ♪ (i. zer. vay.) ♪ ♪ ( gets ga goin' slower.) ♪ izervay is an eye injection. don't take it if you have an infection or active
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welcome back. a remarkable story for you now. the fisherman who was rescued off florida's gulf coast after he was stranded during hurricane milton is now sharing the tale of how he survived. nbc news correspondent jesse kirsch has the details. >> reporter: finding anyone alive in the open water after a hurricane is remarkable, but this scene after hurricane milton's landfall was especially surreal. this was the moment the coast guard rescued joe tessa off the gulf coast in october. incredibly, they found him floating on a cooler. >> i thought i was going to die. >> reporter: today, for the first time, tessa is speaking out publicly about his harrowing ordeal. the company who makes the cooler he held on to, the fisherman recounting what it was like to be exposed and alone in the open
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water. >> currently a category 5 storm, 160-mile-per-hour winds. >> reporter: with a monstrous hurricane bearing down. >> this is not a time to be outside, tom. >> reporter: as milton barreled to florida on october 9th, tessa went out to repair the fishing boat he captained but the coast guard says tessa radioed the boat became disabled on the way back to port just hours before milton's landfall tessa was stranded at sea. >> mother nature was just too much for that boat. i pulled the life boat and deployed it. as soon as it pulled tight it flipped me over and drug me under. >> reporter: the cooler hit him in the back of the head. >> i basically locked myself in the cooler like this, my legs and my arms. >> reporter: he believes he used the cooler as a life boat for roughly 17 hours. >> i had my fingertips like this holding the cooler.
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the lid down so water couldn't come in. whatever water was coming in at the time was keeping me from shivering. i rolled over quite a few times, got thrown out of it. >> reporter: during that overnight stretch he would have been hit by 75 to 90-mile-per-hour winds and 20 to 25-foot seas. the day after landfall a coast guard search team was about to head back to land when their equipment got an alert. >> we saw the arms reach up in the air and realized at the moment that we had found the survivor floating, clinging to a big fishing cooler. we were all very, very excited. we couldn't believe it. >> reporter: tessa flown back to land alive. >> it was a good feeling once i got in that helicopter. >> here on set we gasped several times during that story, a remarkable tale of survival, jesse kirsch reporting. up next here, politico's david snyder will join us on why california has changed and so
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candidate convened a special senate of the state legislature earlier this month asking lawmakers to a $25 million litigation fund to fight the incoming trump administration in court. newsom's actions come after the state shifted nine points toward trump from 2020 with the president-elect flipping ten counties that had previously voted for joe biden. joining us now politics editor at politico, david siders, the author of a new piece titled "more of a purple look -- california has changed and so will its resistance to donald trump." let's get to your piece. you outlined how california democrats are responding to trump's win. you write in part this, the resistance isn't dead. it's doing deep breathing exercises in california. across the country fewer democrats are preparing to march, some are tuning out from the news entirely. in washington, democratic
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lawmakers are recalibrating with some progressive embracing some of trump's populist policy proposal, also expecting him to fail. in california democrats are finding not only is the nature of their resistance changing but the state itself may be, too. the state certainly looks a lot different than it did when trump was first elected eight years ago when even elon musk was calling trump not the right guy. democrats are confronting, if not an identity crisis, a studied re-assessment of their party's and their state's place in the political landscape. david, it's a fascinating deep dive on our nation's largest state, one so overwhelmingly deep blue for years upon years, but is beginning to change. tell us about some of the shifts and why. >> i think your map layed it out really well. the nine or ten-point improvement for trump. it does go beyond that. the democrats looking at their
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ballot initiatives this year, saw progressive or left push initiatives on crime, rent control, minimum wage all go down. they saw progressives falling in san francisco and oakland and los angeles. and i think that's what's causing this re-assessment. i mean, after trump's election in 2016, you drove around los angeles, there were no ice banners hanging from the freeway overpasses, and now i think there's the deep breathing exercises i mentioned but, also, beyond that, more of -- well, you see newsom on a jobs tour, more consideration about what's happened with the state. >> david, susan del percio here. i cut my teeth in republican politics in california in 1990 with pete wilson's first gubernatorial campaign, and at a time republicans did win statewide.
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he had also won re-election to the state senate two years earlier. i wonder if this is such a drastic change back or maybe a realignment over the last 30-some-odd years. >> yeah, i think that's good to point out that california has not always been a democratic bastion. i mean, after pete wilson, there was, of course, arnold schwarzenegger more recently. we have had republican leadership. no, i don't think california is becoming republican anytime soon. democrats hold both houses of the legislature with super majorities. the wins are huge. you take that nine or ten-point swing and let's say you attribute some of that to harris' weakness and poor democ attribute some of that to donald trump's unique appeal to different voters, even if you decided that 2% or 3% of that swing was what you call a realignment, that's significant and that adds up over the years.
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i do think that that's something worth considering in the next decade, two decades, three decades. >> so, david, let's talk about governor newsome. we brought in this segment mentioning him. i don't think it's a secret he has eyes on the oval office, but talk to us about how you see he'll finish his term here in california and assess what you would think of his political prospects if he does, indeed, make a run for the white house. >> i think his ambitions are no secret, and, you know, he's promised to, like you said, have a special session to trump proof -- although he doesn't call it that to prepare for trump, something like 25 million for legal defenses. you see some lawmakers already pushing him trying to go further with they want more money, so those tensions will be interesting as he tries to navigate the trump presidency. and he is a little bit still to be seen. he's promised to approach the administration with, what does he call it, an open hand not a
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closed fist. so we'll see. i think there is some -- in newsom, we will see some of the signs of what it means to be a democrat resisting trump in how much the fist is closed and how wide the hand is open. >> politics editor david siders, his fascinating new piece is online at politico.com. happy holidays. susan, final thoughts to you here where things stand this morning on christmas eve. >> i think we just all are looking for a break, and i hope this holiday break for everyone calms the investment down and we can start the first week of the new year on a good note. >> the importance of talking to people even if you disagree with them. let's hope for civility for everyone. political analyst susan del percio, thank you for joining us. we real little appreciate it. and that does it for us this morning. merry christmas, happy hanukkah
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