>> all right. going like this right now. chloe, thank you so much. that's it for me today. i'm richard lui in new york. thank you for spending your time with us today. happy holidays. "deadline white house" starts out in. ♪ ♪ we begin with a tale of two very different holiday messages. yesterday, for his last christmas in office, joe biden writing on x, my hope for our nation today and always is that we continue to seek the light of liberty and love, kindness and compassion, dignity and decency. he posted a picture of himself and the first lady, calling service members around the world to thank them. and then, there was

president-elect donald trump, who, while most of us are likely spending the holidays with our loved ones and families, he spent his day by posting more than 40 times on his social media platform. including a meme mocking former president barack obama, a number of articles in favor of kash patel and pete hegseth. a picture of himself receiving fox's "patriot of the year award" as well as a post encouraging former professional hockey star wayne gretzky to run for prime minister of canada, saying "it would be so much fun to watch." but perhaps most disturbing of all was his lengthy christmas message where trump doubled down on his suggestion that the u.s. should just take control of canada, greenland, and the panama canal. he wishes a merry christmas to chinese soldiers who are lovingly but illegally operating

the panama canal, and the people of greenland which he says is needed by the united states for national security purposes and who want the u.s. to be there and we will. but my friends, it did not end there. the president-elect goes on to extend his holiday wishes to the "radical left lunatics," mocked joe biden as sleepy joe, he calls a man who has no idea what he's doing, and ends by telling the 37 inmates on death row who had their sentences commuted by joe biden to "go to hell." yep. that is where we start today. joining me now, david jolly, former republican congressman from florida, and our special correspondent and host of "the fast politics" podcast, and author of the fourth coming book "a more perfect party."

it is good to see you all. david jolly, if you had someone at your family holiday who was sort of whipping through this grab bag of grievances, talking about a person who hadn't been president in eight years, as though they were president today, you'd say, i think it's time for you to head home. i think this party is wrapping up now. and instead, it turns out for the united states this party is just beginning. what do you make of what we heard from the incoming president? >> yeah, welcome to the next four years. i'll take your metaphor a step further. if he was at your holiday party last year, you wouldn't have invited him back. what he did on easter, what he did last year. you can look at this two ways. the more generous interpretation would be about donald trump's kind of disgusting political strategy always which is, he can't be a hero if there's not a villain.

at a time when joe biden is sending out messages of unity, donald trump can't have that, because his rise to political power became by birtherism and relying on fox news and right wing platforms that were promoting division. so part of that is strategy. that would be a generous interpretation. the more likely one is just the raw narcissism. we see him do this on holidays, on christian holidays. the man is jealous of jesus christ himself. we saw this last december, we saw this on easter. we saw this now. and truly, i think this is one of those moments where you realize the man's upset about all the attention baby jesus is getting by the christian world on christmas. so at some point, he has to rat it will cages and saying hey, look at me, i'm over here, and the way he does it is fall back on his political strategy of saying we are divided, i have a bunch of enemies, you have those enemies, too, merry christmas, but let's get on with the fight.

>> i don't know if you can tell, juanita, that david jolly is a preacher's son as he talked about someone being jealous of the baby jesus, but let's go with the most generous interpretation of the nutiness that is onlying from the incoming president. if this is strategy, and the strategy is in order to be the hero, there has to be a villain, he hasn't even settled on who the villain is. then it would mean current president joe biden is somehow a villain, former president barack obama is a villain. justin trudeau is a villain. the chinese soldiers who are lovingly but illegally in charge of the panama canal, i suppose those are villains, too. this is not what we expect with presidential leadership. this is the suggestion of pollty and an imperial presidency. >> i want to emphasize that point about imperialism, because

donald trump doesn't want to be a president. he said on cage, on the campaign, i want to be a dictator on day one, and this mirrors authoritarian behavior which is something perpetuated that donald trump looks to for examples, ing one vladamir putin, right? it's eerie to see it play out like this. i was quite depressed because what i realized in reading it, there is no value in telling trump or his supporters that none of this is true, none of this is founded in reality or facts. yes, you should learn the difference -- none of that seems to matter, because they choose to reject reality on a regular basis. and so, honestly, that's what i was bracing for, especially as david points out, this is the next four years. >> it's obviously really not the first time we have heard him suggest this idea of buying greenland as sort of a hot idea

that goes back to his first term in office. i wonldz der what you make of t obsession that we're hearing so much about it? >> trump loves the hits, and we're going to see this again. there's a couple of things he's stuck on. buying greenland, you'll remember we saw reporting that it was a friend of his who suggested it. you can't, you know, the whole thing here is that he ran on making things less expensive, and ending wars. so how he's going to expand, you know, the american empire, quote unquote, this is about this idea that somehow america is this sort of roman empire is -- i don't think there's any path to that with these things. and so as much as maybe he's doing it for attention, who knows? maybe he's doing it because he thinks saber rattling will get people on the defensive. whatever it is, it is just functionally undoable, which i

think is an important data point when you're talking about this. >> david jolly, pick up where molly left off, which is if you buy that the reason that american people voted him back into power was the price of eggs and was a desire to see costs come down and more affordable living, he's already admitted that he may not actually be in control of that. instead, you see all of the promises he has made via social media and also a reminder that you're going to see a lot of diplomacy, leadership via social media. so the fact that you have him saying that canada should start a "draft wayne gretzky" movement. i understand he thinks in terms of reality tv, but he doesn't seem to understand the way any of this actually works. >> yeah, i do think, though, take the reality tv part of this. what he -- what his brand

strategy is, is to project strength. frankly, if his followers see him as strong, they care less about a weakened economy, and they care less about weakened national security posture, if they see their leader as strong. so this idea with greenland, look, he wants to be a president that expands the continental united states, expands the territories of the united states, because that happens so rarely historically. and greenland is of strategic importance to the united states. but it's not like it's controlled by an adversary. it's controlled by the kingdom of denmark, and we have an agreement with greenland, we use it for a lot of national security. but donald trump is fixated on getting it. so what does he do for those voters that molly mentioned? i think if he has any economic strategy, it a es this -- he's going to try to burn the economy white hot for two to three years and not care about the consequences of how he does it. he wants to get money moving fast and interest rates down.

he'll try to crush the independence of the fed. we'll see if congress goes along. he'll review the long-term consequences of the increased debt. if he approaches the independence of the fed, he'll ignore the fact that rattles international markets. he wants to get money moving fast and feel this strength he projects, even though it's a weakness. either because it's a mixture of this toxic masculinity with ignorance or irresponsible decision making. but for the moment, i don't feel great. >> juanita, i want to read you this bit of recording. denmark announced a huge boost in defense spending, although the government described the timing of the announcement as an irony. juanita, i was up late at night on christmas, reading my advanced copy of your book, which was apparently driving my husband bananas, because that

was the period of time he was expecting to wrap all the gifts for me. he's like, why are you not done? because i'm reading juanita's book and it's really good. part of your book is shirley chism was ahead of the occur cu understood that you needed to have radical change and be a party that offered something to people. that is where your argument dove tails with what david was just laying out about the incoming president, that there is some appetite to just see a shakeup, right? the shakeup people are going to get is not the shakeup they think they voted for. but it does speak to this desire that you can go back in history, it is actually not necessarily a partisan idea, but that there is an appetite for that type of delivery on the part of the american government. >> only if it benefits the

people, and nothing that donald trump is proposing realistically benefits any of the people that he -- that voted for him. i do think that one radical part that's emerged from donald trump's threats is the dynamic statements from world leaders. the prime minister of greenland saying again, greenland is not for sale. the president of panama saying the panama canal belongs to panamanians, as well as the president of mexico backing him up. i think what the world is primed for is a moment to push back against donald trump in unison, in a way that diplomacy hasn't seen in a long time. so i do think there's an opportunity for all of us to learn from global leaders who coordinate and align against donald trump and all of these asinine efforts that he's pushing for. >> i don't want to gloss over it, but it struck me the contrast between the current president's message at this time of the year, the fact that he and the first lady are working

the phones as they should, calling service members around the world, thanking them for their service, showing gratitude, showing humility. when you've got the incoming president posting photos of himself, and a self-aggrandizing, really could not be a sharper contrast between the two. >> yeah, i mean, joe biden is a normal president and he does -- and by the way, there are kind of traditional, almost non-partisan christmas activities for presidents calling service members, you know, doing this sort of -- just sort of very standard stuff. now, trump has never been interested in doing that, and trump's people don't necessarily want him to do that. but i think what's happening here too, though, is that trump has been elected by a really big tent, that has a lot of different desires. and we're already seeing that.

there's this anti-immigration wing, and then there are these tech bros who want to have skilled visas, have people come in with skilled visas. so i do think some of what's happening here is trump sees already three kind of fragments in his coalition, and thinks that if he can get an enemy and keep going, that that will solve his problems. and, again, i'm not so sure. you know, really what we saw in congress, you know, the last -- with the almost shutdown, is that maga is many, many things. some of them contradictory to each other. >> david, i don't know if you caught this, because it was news that came in, right on the heels of the holiday. but this week trump announced that he's going to nominate steven feinberg for deputy defense secretary. he's picked an unprecedented number of billionaires to be part of his administration.

it's not that on its face, but it is this preference for someone with that background over someone who necessarily has experience that matches the role that he is casting for. i wonder what you make of it. >> yeah, look, donald trump sees wealth as a sign of strength, even if it's wealth you inherited and tangibly lost some of that like donald trump himself did. but i think the issue we should all be concerned about may not be the wealth but the lack of experience, particularly when it comes to america's national security. the founders of the constitution intended for the united states not to be a state run by the military, a country run by the military. so we have the joint chiefs, we have the general officers that lead the operational force and the war fighting force. but they ultimately report to civilian secretary staff structure. in this case, donald trump is putting inexperienced leadership in the national secretary

positions, particularly if pete hegseth were confirmed, as the go between between the nation's top generals and admirals and the president himself. that's the danger. donald trump with a truth social tweet could ignite a bomb somewhere in the world and he's surrounded himself with civilian leadership completely enexperienced and incapable of stopping him from doing so. >> a reminder that we are in the only lull that we are going to get for a while. and then immediately, you know, we come back, congress gets sworn in. they're going to have to choose a leader. we are bracing for whether or not that is going to be a fight. then we roll into these confirmation hearings, and i think that there is still an open question about whether or not republican senators are going to go along with all these nominees. >> l, right now they've been saying give them a hearing.

but they're also the ones requesting access to fbi records to review them behind closed doors for different cabinet members. so i'm curious to see when they find out these things about these highly unqualified nominees to lead the fbi, to lead the d.o.d., to lead the dni, right? i think that is the question. are they actually going to stand on principle in terms of protecting this nation from these highly unqualified individuals and from donald trump or are they just going to fall in line behind donald trump? we saw with the government shutdown push the way donald trump and elon musk attempted to leverage power, money, and threats against members of congress within the republican party. i don't doubt that that will show itself again in january, and that's the question that i think senate republicans are immediately going to be up against when they consider these cabinet nominees. >> david jolly, michael steele this past weekend was saying, everyone go home, don't talk about politics this holiday

season, enjoy yourself. but a little part of me was like, i mean, if your family includes a republican senator who may be on the fence to confirm these nominees, do talk about politics. feel free to let them know how you feel. because the decisions that they make, juanita's right, setting a new threshold, it all slowly gets them closer to getting these nominees over the finish line. >> yeah, that's right. look, i think the struggle engaging politically right now, if you are in the media, there are the day-to-day distractions, but also real questions about the president's fitness. today is a perfect example of his tweets on truth social. the broader sory, are we a nation that's sliding into liberalism, a nation that's a lobster in a boiling pot? because if we stop engaging and

approach our senators and members of congress, if we don't engage with our representatives, we are going to complete that slide and not recognize the country when we come out of it. look, my hope for coming out of the holidays into the new year, i know a lot of people were disspirited by the election results, this is a period of fatigue, not defeat. sure, people are tired and beaten by the election results, but that doesn't mean the fight's not there once they see donald trump and the people he's asking to lead the nation lead this the way we know he will, this might be a restful time, but it's not a defeated time. i think the contest will start again in the new year. >> stay in the fight and stay with us, because our panel is going to have a lot more to say, particularly on trump's messages over christmas. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.

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we are back with my panel. i'm not sure if you all saw this, but today, a former democratic president for president, marianne williamson, is launching a campaign to become the next dnc chair. she joins a field of candidates running for the seat. molly, what do you make of that choice, and of the timing? >> so, i have some personal history with marianne williamson. my mother was friendly with her. she has long felt wounded by my criticism of her. look, you know, dnc chair is an

organizational job about building the party structure. you have a couple people in this race who are sort of known for building party structure. i'm thinking ben wekler who is the chair of the wisconsin democratic party and done a great job of building a structure and said that he thinks the dnc chair should be, you know, focused on state parties, which seems like a winning message to me. but there are quite a lot of people who have jumped into that race, and we'll have a bunch of forums and a vote. but you have to -- the people who are voting on this are members of their democratic, you know, voters that are part of the infrastructure. and so they are likely going to vote for people who they know and like, which i think is not necessarily a bad thing in this case. >> right. i think there are 440 of them,

juanita tolliver, who these folks have to woo. i wonder what you make of marianne williamson's candidacy and the decision to announce it in the wake of christmas? >> i don't know what she's competing with religion, like david said about trump, but i welcome a william to this race. she is the first woman to jump into this race out of a slate of men thus far. while i agree that the democratic party does require transformational change, i do note she didn't make any statements of substance of what that change should be. she said she has expert experience. i'm not sure where that matches up, but when i think about this entire field, i fear that a lot of their recommendations nibble around the edges instead of driving that transformational change needed. they're saying let's go on right

wing irwaves and talk shows. but take it sure, make sure you spend all your time in the states with state leaders and organizers, engaging with people. don't come to d.c. when it comes to differentiating with the republican party, we mentioned how trump is stacking his cabinet with billionaires. reject all billionaires' money. sta start there. talk through these things that recenter power with the people. i think another thing that would be very impactful in terms of emphasizing that transformational change is not just doing a post mortem or 2024, but making sure you are filling the vacuum in terms oh of what people need. if trump is focused on greenland, talk about all the things that are impacting individuals on the ground level. and lawyer up. what donald trump and the republicans have shown is that any election that democrats win will be contested in the courts

at the state, federal, and supreme court level. so make sure that you are developing a deep bench of legal minds who can help you navigate this, because that's what's coming in the future. so plan for the future with big goals, three of which i just named that any of the candidates are welcome to take in their platforms. >> david jolly, i would never be so foolish as to question the premise as someone as my friend juanita tolliver's argument, but let me ask you this for the sake of conversation. we talk about transformational change within a party. do you think that transformational change comes from inside the party structure in that way? is the change actually coming from the dnc, from the rnc, or does it need to come from somewhere else? who leads that move into the future? >> yeah, i think the responsibility of the parties, as juanita and molly said, is to build the infrastructure of the national party.

you have to invest in state parties. there are a lot of state parties that need help, and this gets harder, when likely more electoral votes go to florida and texas. so the five-year project for the dnc is, where are we investing in infrastructure in the states? state party committees, to make sure that we can win back the white house and the country and prepare for the 2030 census. i think the messaging will come down to very talented politicians within the party. we see the post mortems after the elections, but i think it's simple for democrats. you can give a tax cut to people making under $400,000, not just promise their taxes won't go up. ban assault weapons, pay teachers more and get corporations out of politics. this race democrats nearly won. this was not the landslide that donald trump says it was.

democrats are right on the precipice of regang ining power. the importance of the dnc is to build that infrastructure and compete and win in future cycles. >> i was going to ask you how you do, creating and sharpening a contrast between the two parties if you are democrats. but i think democrats hit the nail on the head there, right? you actually have to deliver some of these more populist policies, and show that you're the ones getting it done while he's off talking about the panama canal. >> well, i would -- one of the things that i really have seen is that i think one to have big problems in the biden admin was not so much the policy, but the messaging. they didn't do interviews, they weren't forward facing the way donald trump was. for four years, donald trump basically ran for president

again. whereas biden was not doing interviews, was very sort of, you know, careful about what he did, didn't do a lot of media. i think that was a really big mistake, because trump sort of really took all the oxygen out of the room. so even though democrats were passing a lot of policy, i mean, there is an incredible piece of property that's revived the economy. i don't know that you could have asked for a better policy, and a lot of it was passed. so i would say the problem was, you know, we would sit here and say wow, that was an amazing policy that they just passed. you know, are people going to know about it? and people really didn't know about it, because they were not a forward facing -- frontward facing white house. and that really got them sort of behind. and they weren't able to catch that populist wave, because the truth is, a lot of the biden

policy was very, very populist. it just wasn't transmitted as populist. you had joe biden marching on union, you know, marching on a strike line with the union boss. he was the first president to ever do that. like, that is not -- that's -- that's populism. that's pro-worker. but for whatever reason, it was not translated. and then the union -- some of the unions didn't even endorse harris. so obviously this is more of a messaging than a policy problem. and i think that if democrats want to win, they really need to be frontward facing. we see this again and again. you have to go where the media is, so that means going on things like joe rogan, because otherwise, joe rogan's people will never see a democratic politic. -- politician. >> friends, i feel like the gift of your time was one of the greatest gifts i got this holiday season. thank you all so much for being

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we turn now to the latest on the deadly azerbaijan airplane crash in kazakhstan on wednesday. this captured the final moments before the flight from azerbaijan to russia went up in planes and split in two. 67 people were on board.

38 people were killed. 29 others, including two children, survived. russian authorities say preliminary information suggested a bird strike. the kremlin said it would be incorrect to make any hypotheses before the investigation was over. but it is suggested that a russian anti-aircraft system struck the flight. more now from nbc news correspondent danielle in london. danielle, we have learned anymore about the investigation into this crash? what is russia saying about it? >> reporter: well, russia is saying, don't jump to conclusions, the investigation is underway. as you said earlier, it said -- the spokesperson for the kremlin was asked this question and said it would be incorrect to make

any hypotheses before the investigation is complete. azerbaijan has sent delegates to kazakhstan to gather evidence and figure out what happened. they will be looking at why did this azerbaijan airlines aircraft have to be diverted, all the way on the other side to the caspian sea, flying hundreds of miles off course? the subject has been -- the speculation has been swirling online for 24 hours. the russian state media had initially suggested this was caused by a bird strike. but as the video emerged online, independent and industry experts started to look at the wreckage video. they've seen that what appears to be holes and damage caused potentially by shrapnel and looked at the wreckage of the film, video posted online shot by some of the passengers while the plane was still up in the air. they looked and examined the air

space at the time of the event, and critically listened to the testimonies of the survivors who managed to ly walk away there this crash site, because some did manage to survive, walking away from it. they said that they reported seeing -- hearing an explosion while they were still up in the air. they saw shrapnel passing through the fuselage in the cabin air. all this combined led them to believe this was not caused by bad weather, and it was not caused by a bird strike as had been suggested by russian state media immediately following that crash yesterday. >> danielle, when you talk about the survivors, what more do we know about them, specifically the status of the 29 survivors? >> reporter: yeah. well, a number of them were take on the a local hospital, 27 out of the 28. 11 of them, according to the latest official figures,

remained in intensive care, two in critical condition. and some were expected today and tomorrow to be flown back to azerbaijan and still incredible, you mentioned two of those survivors were children. >> danielle, thank you so much for bringing us that report. i want to bring in david roth, host of "the deep state radio" podcast. david, good to see you. the kremlin saying it is waiting for this investigation to play out. we now have a u.s. official saying it was likely a russian air defense systems. ukraine believes russia is to blame. amid all that speculation, you have nato calling for a full investigation. your assessment? >> well, you know, i think it's always prudent in these situations to wait for the investigation. but i also think we need to understand that it's very likely that the russian conclusions of the facts may not line up exactly. this is one of those things that

illustrates some of the issues that we're going to face going into the trump administration. one, the recklessness of the russians, the dangers that they pose, and the fact that we don't control what happens here. so if trump's trying to present a more pro russian face and you encounter things like this, that's difficult. but the other thing that's more relevant in the near term is that when you have somebody like tulsi gabbard up for director of national intelligence, who has historically accepted russian conspiracy theorys, russian lies and promoted them as the truth, in a situation like this, you wonder what you're going to get from her, and is she going to present the kremlin's story or the real story that our leaders need to have? >> on wednesday, you had russia launching christmas day attacks on ukraine's energy infrastructure. more than 70 russian missiles,

100 drones. ukrainian forces shot down more than 50 missiles, and denouncing putin for choose christmas day. when you talk about tulsi gabbard and the choice that republican senators are going to have to make about the extent to which they confront her nomination, i wonder if what we are watching play out on the world stage as an urgency or complication to what otherwise would have been their posture? >> yeah, it certainly does. i think tulsi gabbard was hoping to slip biden under the radar without her history being exposed. of course, the events in syria and her close association with the bashar al assad government, her defense of them, brought her past behavior into focus. this does, as well. and the same for others who are

in the trump inner circle. putin is not going to dance to trump's dance necessarily. it's going to make it difficult. and i think there is a practical consequence of that, which is that there are some people in the republican party, in the senate, and in the house, who are not sympathetic to the pro-russian view, and with the margins in the senate and house being so tight, it's going to be very difficult to sort of force down the throats of the united states congress a view that's defensive of the kremlin in light of events like this, because it was inhumane, and it continues ten years of inhumane behavior in ukraine. >> so we've talked about tulsi gabbard, but i want to also make sure we talk a little bit about keith kellogg. you had joe biden condemning russia's attack on ukraine. you had president-elect donald trump's russian envoy keith kellogg, who made a point, the

world is closely watching actions on both sides. the u.s. is more resolved than ever to bring peace to the region. when we talk about sort of that inner circle around trump, do you have a sense of the role that someone like keith kellogg is playing now and is poised to play moving forward, and what does that "both sides" indicate to you? >> well, you know, it's troubling. there are people around trump who have been historically pro-russian, including elon musk and there are people around trump who are clearly not going to stand up to him in ways that you might want them to, like, for example, pete hegseth if he ends up being the secretary of defense. but, you know, the united states is not the puppet master here. the ukrainian people have a say in this. our nato allies have a say in this. and putin has a say in this. and putin's statements thus far

have been very harsh and have suggested that he wants a maximumalist position. and it's going to be hard for the pro-russia forces to support that. you could end up with a standoff for some time, more killing, more violence, and questions about whether the united states is going to let ukraine suffer. whether our allies are going to let ukraine suffer. i don't think this is going to be olved quickly, as president trump said it would be. >> i only have about 30 seconds left, but talk to me about the timeline. you say it will not be resolved quickly. what are we realistically looking at? >> well, i think the first thing you have to do is set up negotiations. that's going to take some time. then they'll go to the table and exchange views. if the russian view is you keep everything, you can't be in nato

or europe, that's a non-starter for them. and, you know, it's going to go from there. but i would expect this is going to be something that lasts well into next year, if not beyond. >> david, thank you so much for being with us and bringing us your expertise. coming up, it's been 20 years since the deadlyst natural disaster, the indian ocean tsunami. we'll have more on that, next. tsunami. we'll have more on that, next. ♪♪ well would you look at that?

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the century's deadliest natural disaster so far happened 20 years ago today when a tsunami crashed into communities around the indian ocean. commemorations are underway across southeast asia, as the lives of the estimated 230,000 people killed are remembered. nbc's janis mackey frayer spoke to survivors about that day. >> reporter: it was the day after christmas 2004, and resorts here in thailand were busy with tourists. >> it was a beautiful day. we had gone kayaking that morning. >> we walked up to the beach. it was a few steps up about six steps. >> reporter: by then, disaster had struck across the indian ocean. a magnitude 9.2 earthquake under the sea near indonesia, lasting ten unrelenting minutes.

the power of it felt hundreds of miles away. there are hotels and resorts all along here, and people were at the beach, swimming pool, unaware of what was going to happen. first, the ocean pulled back from the shore, revealing the seabed. then, a mountain of waves came crashing in. captured on video by people who made it to higher ground. two american survivors, vacationing at different resorts in thailand that day, can still recall every detail. >> it was squeezing me, and i can't quite describe it. i heard after that the water was traveling 250 to 500 miles an hour. >> my body was being crushed and contorted. my right hand was essentially

amputated. it was just an unbelievable moment to realize this is happening to you and that you're going to die instantly. >> reporter: wave after wave, at tils times higher than 100 feet, demolished coastal areas in 14 countries. within hours, an estimated 230,000 lives were lost, from indonesia to sri lanka, india and thailand. >> i was calling out for my good friend, ben ables, and i didn't hear anybody's voice. everything was silent. >> reporter: ables, from chicago, didn't survive. 20 years on, life around here has, in many ways, recovered. a shelter set up in the tsunami's wake for orphaned children. this is a place that has given me everything, says this man,

who was 12-year-old old when the tsunami changed the course of his life. now with two college degrees, he's running the orphanage where he grew up, raising 93 kids with help from donations and fund-raising. "i remember the goodness," he says of the past. "i always tell the children, if the tsunami didn't happen, we wouldn't have this home to stay together." the worst tsunami in recorded history, survival brought unexpected second chances. >> i was 34-year-old old. i mean, i had a life to live and i didn't want to be disabled in any way. i'm an avid skier, the mother of three teenagers. i've had a wonderful life. >> i think one of the biggest thinks is to not blame yourself. if you have that survivor's guilt, you've got to let it go. you truly were allowed to survive for a reason. >> reporter: here, every

december, volunteers gather at the cemetery for tsunami victims who were never identified. they sweep, clean, and remember the day the water changed everything. janis mackey frayer, nbc news, thailand. >> absolutely incredible. we'll sneak in a quick break. we'll be right back. we'll sneak in a quick break we'll be right back. it's on them. families save 20% every month. what a deal! new and existing customers, trade in your busted old phone, and we'll give you a new iphone 16 pro with apple intelligence on us.

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♪♪ hi again. it's 5:00 here in new york. we are 25 days away from the start of donald trump's second administration. a day which he is promising to

unleash a litany of executive orders. throughout the campaign he made a number of promises that axios has tabulated. here are some of the things he promised to do day one. end of war of russian aggression against ukraine, even though the russians unleashed bombs on christmas day. close the u.s./mexico border and unleash the largest deportation plan since president eisenhower. cut funding to public schools that teach, quote, christmas tree ritical race theory. cut funding to schools with vaccine mandates, which affects all 50 states because they require certain vaccinations for children to enter public schools with some exceptions. he promised to increase drilling and fracking even though u.s. oil production has neared a record high under president biden. and one expert told politico this a president's ability to affect oil and gas production in the near term is not zero, but it's pretty close.

he promised to end inflation and make life affordable again. a promise as you know while he is already walking back. told "time" magazine, quote, it's hard to bring prices down once they are up. it's very hard. he also promised to circumvent the constitution and end birthright citizenship. >> you promised to end birthright citizenship day one. is that still your plan? >> yeah, absolutely. >> the 14th amendment says that, quote, all persons born in the united states are citizens. can you get around the 14th amendment? >> maybe we will have to go back to the people. but we have to end it. >> and that, friends, that litany, it is just a small sample of the promises he made and i'm setting aside the pardons for the people who attacked the capitol on january 6th, trump tariff tax, deregulatory boom. trump not a man who is about the details, but the folks over at the heritage foundation, the ones who penned project 2025

are. lucky for the president-elect a bunch of folks are coming with him to the white house, including russel vought, his former and future white house budget chief. he has been busy the past few years. according to two undercover journalists at the center for climate reporting, he has overseen the production of policy packets, executive orders and agenda items that would be handed to the trump administration on day one. which works out well for trump because he can focus on his expanding wish list of things he'd like to do, including taking the panama canal, greenland, turning canada into america's 51st state. de niro mark just announced a major new military ramp up for greenland and you have to wonder why. that's where we start. gellon republican strategist susan del percio and houle yawn castro,

secretary of housing and urban development in the obama administration. food to see you two. what a christmas miracle to have the two of you with me anywhere near rockefeller center. those are a lot of promises. i feel like the first thing i learned in parenthood was never to promise because -- >> exactly. unfortunately parenthood and presidencies, especially with this president, may not be the same. there are lots of things he promised during the first term. people didn't hold him accountable for that. at least not among his core constituencies. and when people plan, god laughs, that applies to presidencies, too. there is a list of things that you may plan to do, but it generally is the case that you are doing those things in concert with world events. the wildly unpredictable sprawl of world affairs and that you spend at least as much time reacting as you do being proactive. so this may be a wish list, but it can't be taken as a one to

one correlation between what will happen in this administration. >> right. that's a good point. some of those things can be done through executive action. you can come in on day one, issue executive orders. some of those things require funding which then requires congress when you talk about mass deportations, you can't really do that on his own. he needs a funding mechanism that goes through congress which means he needs republican senators who may be up for re-election to decide that they want to spend billions, maybe trillions of american tax dollars on a mass deportation that i would wager is not actually that popular once it's in effect. >> i don't think it will get in effect. the wish list and how, you know, politicians, whether you are running for governor or president or anything in between, they always say on day one, i chuckle to myself, day one -- >> figure out where the bathroom is. >> right.

>> but the thing with trump is, he doesn't have to get the job done. he just needs enough. for example, if he starts deporting 1,000 criminals, for example, that's enough of a fig leaf for trump to say i started my mass deportation. now, it may be a thousand people in the next six months, but he will use that as job done. he is -- he only needs a little bit of the job to be done. so he can get something in motion. now, on prices it's interesting because i think someone finally told donald trump that inflation and prices have -- and prices have nothing to do with one another. when inflation comes down, the prices stay there. it's just the buying power that changes. so someone's been whispering in his ear about that, saying you probably should walk that back. as far as the other things, the panama canal, who did he have dinner with the night before he said that? he really just kind of goes on

tangents. >> and on the 14th amendment, the 14th that, something that was consecrated by the blood of 700,000 people who died in that war, there is nothing to stop you getting around parts of the constitution that you do like. the second amendment. you can't just pick and choose what parts of the constitution are valid to you. if you are saying that you are going to get around the 14th amendment, i will go out on a limb and say that won't happen and it's not easy as he seems to have presented it in his rhetoric. >> if he says it and puts a bill in, for example, doesn't that get him what he needs? >> political purposes, yeah, right. >> it's about messaging and to the point that susan made about the fact that a lot of these

proclamations come from, you know, whoever was in his ear last, it puts democrats in a tricky spot where they have to decide what they respond to. be really clear about who it is that they are advocating for. i think about all of these efforts around doge. you don't want to be the ones defending bureaucracy. that isn't the winning message. you want to be the ones defending, you know, the services that government provides, the way in which american lives benefit from the u.s. government, but you see once again the tricky dance that democrats find themselves in. >> well, it really is, alicia. look, one thing is clear. two things are clear in my mind. first of all, trump knows what he is doing more now as he enters his second term than he did eight years ago when he was preparing to enter his first term.

and secondly, he is going to do everything that he can to repeal the administrative progress that the biden administration has made on a range of issues, whether it's pro-environment, improving our immigration system, making it more fair, humane, protecting people disabilities. you name it. along a series of different issues, on day one they are going to immediately, i think, try to roll back what the biden administration has done where they can. how far they will get with that, well, whether they will trip up over some, you know, policies or laws that they have to follow that they don't end up following that will bite them back in court, we'll see. but they will try it. it is going to be important for democrats though to have a strategy on messaging and on which pitches they will swing at. i think you see really the trump crowd giving democrats a gift because elon musk and these other billionaires are so at the forefront of shaping and what looks like will be their policy

approach and the politics of it. this is going to be a pro-billionaire billionaires first agenda and democrats have an opportunity when the aca subsidies come up, when the trump tax scheme renewal comes up to push that. i think that's going to resonate with the american people, and in they stick with that messaging i think that's going to be good for democrats. >> it's funny. i noticed that the messaging that you referenced during this last fight over funding the government where you had minority leader jeffries saying the democrats stood up to the billionaire boys club. that is certainly a part of it. there is that piece of it. there is also the piece of it that's the russel voughts of the world. first time around perhaps did not understand how they could leverage government resources in service of the policies they wanted but one they had time in government, then they had time in between the trump administration one to point owe and the biden administration now

that trump 2.0 which to prepare and learn. so they are coming in armed and ready and in a way they were not the first time and that makes it fundamentally different. >> absolutely true. that was one of the lines that you heard during the campaign. first in the biden campaign. then in the harris campaign. they said that these are the people who have adapted and learned new skills over the course -- even when you look at, you know, the fact that trump won in 2016, he looked intimidated by that, frightened out of his mind on the verge of the presidency. now not so much. contrary at the risk of contradicting myself, the other side is they are likely to be more efficient, likely to be more effective. it also means there is a higher possibility of overreach. if you can actually attain the things that you say that you are going to do, well, those margins in that election weren't all that big. at some point you throw people off from the wagon. >> i think that is exactly right. i think it comes down to who it

is he is listening to in in inner circle because i think folks understand if you do some of these things, let's use the example of mass deportations, if you actually were to prioritize folks small in number, but who have some type of violent criminal history that there would be widespread public support for that, that if you start showing up in workplaces and raiding workplaces and all of a sudden you are messing with america's ag system, messing with construction in the united states, if all of a sudden a mom or dad from your kid's school is missing don't have same type of support for that that you a do for what people think is it is that they bought. >> absolutely true because we know what trump values most in office and out of office are his poll numbers. if we start seeing them go down because of these really horrible, mean, just nasty actions, whether it be on mass deportations or other things, i think he will care about that. but what i'm more concerned

about trump 2.0 is the things that he doesn't care about that others do. >> go ahead. >> so whether trump wants to say mass deportations, mass deportations, he may not care what's gag on with the department of education, for example, and the cutting they want to do. you are going to save money? go ahead. i don't care. or, oh, i found a way -- there is ways of cutting funding to new york sfi if you don't like the policies they are doing when it comes to immigration. trump says, oh, save money? like, but i don't care what's happening in the city unless his billionaire friends speak up. there are so many things and so many different agencies in the government that work is done that donald trump won't care about. and the constituencies won't have a voice in this government with donald trump and things will start disappearing very quickly. >> when you talk about something like immigration policy, you are talking about someone like

stephen miller who is very invested regardless of whether or not donald trump is, you are talking about someone like thomas homan who is very invested. so let's talk just a little bit about thomas homan. as you know, he co-authored the child separation policies, promising more of the same by vowing to deport mixed status families. just to, like, illustrate for people what i mean when i say a mixed status family, a group with a lot of folks like this, right? mom may not have papers. dad may not have papers. but you have two children who are u.s.-born citizens, they all live in the same home. that is incredibly common. so we are now talking, yes, about some people who may not be documented but we are also talking about american citizens. thomas homan sitting down with "the washington post" defended that abhorrent policy, blamed parents for what they were about to do to their children, he told "the washington post," listen to this, quote, you knew you were in the country illegally and chose to have a child so you put

your family in that position. i understand anger he is trying to harness there. it is fundamentally to go back to the point about the 14th amendment, un-american. >> it is, and i think that this has a lot to do with them trying to score political points and trying to deliver for the base. i think it's also the animas that thomas homan and others have, especially folks like stephen miller. i don't expect that particular policy change to get very far. but he also talked about, as you know, reintroducing family separation, family detention centers. i expect policy changes like that, absolutely, to happen. and they are going about it, homan with this bravado and sense of mandate that they don't have. we have to remember that family detention and separation were -- family separation was stopped in

the trump administration itself because of the blowback across the political spectrum. now they are talking about reintroducing this. i think when they actually do it, if they actually try it, then it's going to get a lot of blowback again, and that the same thing is going to happen, they will have to back down from that. he is approaching this with a confidence that i don't think is very well placed. they don't have an overwhelming mandate to be cruel again. >> but there is just one thing here. when you go into that interview, he realizes he doesn't have the resources. they need to do new training. this will take months and months. they can't even -- you know, he talks about, yes, he wants this horrific policy of separating families -- >> a $1 trillion -- >> and he says it's not going to -- it's likely not going to happen. we won't see national guard in schools, you know, waiting for parents to pick up their children because they don't have the resources which again puts trump in that situation of he can't get what he has promised

done because he doesn't have the resources at least not yet. >> i have been wanting to reach out, now we can have the conversation that i wanted to with you, which is the same question that is now before democrats, which is which balls do you swing at. what do you choose to confront. it's before every single journalist, which is you want to be as accurate and specific as you can possibly be, but that is extraordinarily difficult with someone who is constantly work shopping policy in real time. so how do you deliver news and information that is accurate when the source of a lot of that information is, by definition, unclear? >> yeah, i think we can't afford to chase after every shiny things. that allows us to be manipulated as journalists and news

organizations. the fundamental explanatory reporting. so if i were an editor-in-chief i would assign someone to do a story on what it would take for mixed status families, what would be the implications of deporting american citizens and what that would open the door to, how does the federal judiciary view this, what are the legal precedents. what we need is a public prepared to understand when someone says i am going to do this, they will say, actually, what i understand is that you can't do this unless you do this and this and this before that and those things are not likely to happen. so the best tool that we have in our toolkit is our ability to explain the complexities of these issues to our audiences. >> a great point. whether you are on the democratic or republican side, when you hear about the pan that canal, what did you google? can the president of the united states take back the panama canal? you just want to know if it's factual that -- does very the ability -- >> authority, right. >> so i think that's a great

point that people need to be aware -- you know, that's the information that people so desperately need to know if it's even it -- you know, what are the facts around the matter. >> i am going to take that on as an actual assignment. do not go anywhere. the panel is sticking with me. we have much more on what's in store for trump's second term. we'll be right back. ack. at the tim e and single mother. i was working 60 hours a week, still couldn't pay the bills. skipped meals so that they could eat. it's been hard because one thing falls into place, ten things fall out of place. you know, i just can't do this alone and make it work. one in five children face hunger in america, and food costs are rising, but everyone needs nourishing food to thrive. and they can when we work together so our neighbors can feed their families. call or go online right now to join feeding america with your gift of just $19 a month, only $0.63 a day. together thanks to a nationwide network of food banks,

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our panel is back with me. julian castro, let's go over this list of promises one more time ending the war of, quote, russian aggression against ukraine, cut funding to public schools that teach crt, cutting

funding to schools that have vaccine mandates, increasing drilling and fracking, how many of those things do you actually try to do through executive action just so sort of say, like, we are out here, we are doing something, and how quickly does he realize that, you know, he is gonna need to go through congress to get most things done d done? >> yeah. well, you know, probably realize, you know, as susan was referencing in thomas homan's interview with the "washington post," they probably recognize at least, you know, the legitimately competent ones that they can't get lot of this stuff done that they want to get done unless they have congressional approval. they may get it because they have, you know, at least in the senate. but i think that what they are going to do is huff and puff on all of these issues. the cabinet secretaries will

start trying to move forward on each of these as priority items and we'll see whether they are able to actually get some of these across the finish line. probably within four years. you can get some significant new regulations done and also biden administration regulations clawed back. on a bunch of those they will trip up over the administrative procedure act or mundane laws that if you violet e violate th you are going to get push back in court and those regulations are going to get overturned. we saw that happen to the biden administration, to the trump administration, and administrations before that. so i expect that they are only going to get a few of these done. i don't think that this -- that four years from now we will be sitting here saying, he got all of that stuff done. a lot of this is the handcuffing an puffing that trump does as part of his m.o. to create an impression of progress without

any actual progress, like building the wall that mexico was going to pay for. >> because it comes down to, one, whether or not the checks and balances actually hold. also comes down to something that the three of us were talking about during the break, which is when american people watch the reality of some of these promises begin to come to fruition, right, i mean, you can hear about something like mass deportation, we can talk about the funding mechanism and whether or not that is done through reconciliation, but there is something different when all of a sudden you see these policies playing out in your own neighborhood. >> absolutely. we were talking about this earlier. the one thing is that you can say mass deportation in the abstract. it's a different thing when people see their neighborhood and community, the person whose kid played ball with their kid, that person dragged from their home has a very different kind of resonance. that's a kind of, you know, fundamental thing, dynamic in

american society that goes, you know, all the way back to the to abolition days. that's a very difficult thing for people to countenance. so if we looked at that kind of metaphorically, the impact -- look at when -- in 2016, when trump ran saying that he would get rid of roe v. wade, and then they actually saw the implications of the dobbs case, which was something they had not thought through at all. there are a dozen of landmines like that, where the policies that rhetorically might sound effective because everyone in the audience cheered when you said it. the implications are things you are not prepared to deal with at all. >> for the last several decades democrats -- here is a difference between democrats and republicans. democrats had will leave a lot of the problems answered if they had control of the federal government, the house, senate, president. they look for answers and to get their policies implemented there. so, for example, if we are talking about vaccinations in schools, you know, eliminating

the mandate, democrats would be wise to get on the ground and in their individual schools saying, we want to protect this and build -- not in a political way, but in a protect your children's way. democrats need to step up on their grassroots individual city council assembly district, you know, races and see that change happens there. i mean, you know, to your point about you don't like it to see your neighbor taken away, well, if deportations are questioning starting to happen and we see people knocking on our neighbor's doors, maybe we tell everybody so we go to the restaurant they own or the hardware store. i mean, you have to develop that community behind whatever you want to protect. frankly, the republicans were doing a really good job of it. look at book banning. i say flip that script. take all of those policies and start bringing it home where the push back is real. real to the elected officials on the ground.

>> i wonder how that plays in a place like texas. would it actually -- what it looks like to bring those fights to the state and local level? >> yeah, i mean, one of the things that happened in the first trump era including in texas, you saw groups like indivisible rise up and anti-assault weapon groups, you know, pro-gun safety groups after what happened in eovaldi, you saw moms come together in the community and lobby local government and the state government to make a change. it's also true that change hasn't happened in texas nearly as quickly as you would like. in some cases not at all on these issues. but we have seen that groundswell of people becoming active. you wills have groups like run for something that has successfully helped, you know, hundreds and hundreds of new candidates at every level to pop up and compete for slots meant for offices and many get

elected. so i think it's true that there is more fatigue and people are tired right now, but as trump starts to overreach, as he starts to do these horrific things, as he starts to attack vulnerable communities, i also believe you are going to see that groundswell and activism. i agree. i hope it's not only aimed at washington, d.c., but at state capitals and city councils and school boards and water districts and on down the line where you can make policy changes. >> i think about the fact that we have had -- we have had authoritarian experts who say you say four years, the first two years, but something you need to understand about autocrats is that there may not be a -- i mean, this may become a rolling term if he were to actually reckon with american democracy the way he talked about. >> yeah, two things here. one is we are talking about this, the kind of standard politics. this is not standard politics.

if we just kind of use this for a moment. when we look at figures in the 20th sen fdr, lbj, the fact that they had majorities in both houses of it congress didn't mean they is didn't have some complicated vexing political relationships even within their own party, which is i won't say it on air, if you google lbj's line about what's the difference between a caucus and a cactus, you will laugh when you get the result. he talked about the difficulty of dealing with his own caucus. it's a different situation in trump has much more control over the republican party. but at the same time, politics are still politics. and so that's not a kind of done deal or kind of given. the other thought of it is on the authoritarian side of these things, it is absolutely true, which is why, you know, for me the institution that, you know, i represent most closely, you know, the media and press, why we have to be relentless in our

audacity and courage and willingness to call a thing what it is on its face. and what we do best is educate the public about the nature of the moment that we are in. i think we have to do that relentlessly without any fear. >> could i is say something say something, we saw during this last fight on the hill a number of republicans who for the first time did not seem terrified by the prospect of having donald trump send in a candidate to one of their primaries, right, who were, like, willing to say, you know, you want to get rid of the debt ceiling. if we don't stand for that, like, what do we stand for? and perhaps it's a little too little, a little too late. but there seems to be some muscle memory and some safety in numbers that makes it a slightly different dynamic than it has been before. >> safety in numbers.

that was it. but you had 38 republicans who voted no, not all for this reason, but mostly as principled whether you agree with the principles or not freedom caucus members who are 100% maga. but they have principles. donald trump tries to force maga and forgets that people have principles and they are not necessarily willing to cave to it. he probably couldn't understand how it was those 38 that turned against him. he is not running 38 primaries against these members. it's not going to happen. and the same in the house. i think when you challenge -- sorry, the senate. when you challenge them too much, both legislative branches, they don't like being bullied. they will fold on a lot, but not on everything if it means keeping the institution alive. as far as being an authoritarian, to do me the ultimate challenge and what kept me up at night during the election and still does is what happens when trump takes something to the supreme court? and they say, no.

that is unconstitutional. and he says, so what? you have no authority to enforce anything you say is unconstitutional. my word is final. and he breaks with that. so, for example, he decides to run again. he decides to send the military into communities to take people out of their homes for deportation. they say, no, you can't do that. he goes, watch me. and he will fire everyone down the ladder, chain of command until someone obeys and someone always obeys, and what will be the push back then? >> i think that's promising that you are seeing people begin to develop the muscle memory of saying no. that is a bridge too far. thank you all so much for being with us. coming up, there is so much uncertainty over the situation in the middle east heading into the new year. we have a live report from beirut next.

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tragic news out of the middle east as israel and hamas blame each other for delays a ceasefire deal. early today five journalists were killed when their vehicle was hit by an israeli strike near gaza. according to news media reports, the vehicle was clearly marked press. it was frequently used to report from inside a hospital in the area. three newborn babies also reportedly died in frigid temperatures unable to survive the winter in gaza's tent camps. nbc news correspondent join us live on the ground in beirut. what do we know the deaths of these five journalists and three newborn babies? >> reporter: well, we understand that they were killed when they were spending the night in their vehicle, which as you mentioned was parked outside a hospital. this is according to sources inside that medical compound. the you are showing the footage there on the screen, you can clearly see the word press on

the vehicle that is charred. it belonged to a gazan television network. now, the idf said it was targeting palestinian islamic jihad elements in that part of the gaza strip. that's a claim it didn't back up with any evidence. this is when it was asked about that specific incident targeting the vehicle. we were told by medical personnel inside the hospital that one of the dead journalists that his wife who was in labor when his vehicle was attacked gave birth to a baby boy today. that means the committee to protect journalists is saying that means that nine gazan journalists have been killed in the last two weeks, brings to 141 the total number of media workers killed since october 7th last year. you mentioned the hopes for a ceasefire. they are dwindling. a few days ago that deal that we were expecting could materialize to free the hostages and end the war appeared closer when the

israeli prime minister said that there had been some progress made. but both sides are now accusing the other of introducing new demand. >> can you talk us through those new demands? your sense as you report out this this story of what it would take to get the negotiations back on track? >> reporter: a few weeks ago an israeli source told nbc news that the deal that is being discussed right now would involve three phases. the first and crucial phase of course would involve the release of 40 live hostages in exchange for palestinian prisoners. the big sticking point here is israeli military withdrawal from gaza. hamas and egypt as well would want the israeli military to withdraw from strategic tactical areas like the philadelphia corridor, which is that narrow strip of land in the south. it doesn't appear as though the israeli military or government is willing to commit to that.

the defense minister was in the philadelphia corridor area just a few days ago and reiterated that israel would maintain security control of the strip. so this is, obviously, one of the big sticking points. but it does appear right now as though the two sides are once again drifting further apart. >> when you talk both specifically about this ceasefire deal and then about the region more generally, we have been talking throughout the show about the incoming president of the united states, the way in which various groups are bracing for the beginning of a second trump term, in your reporting from the region what is the belief about the ways in which it changes the contours of dynamics between the united states and the middle east? >> reporter: well, it's a good question. i think when it comes to gaza, there are two schools of thought. the first school of thought is,

well, donald trump has expressed solidarity with benjamin netanyahu, has told him to finish the job quickly, has posted on social media that there would be hell to pay if the hostages were not released from gaza. and therefore, this would give free rein to benjamin netanyahu and the israeli military to go in even more it aggressively in the gaza strip. the other school of thought is that donald trump has said time and again during the campaign that he is the president during whose term there is never a conflict and, therefore, the government of benjamin netanyahu, which is a hard-line right-wing government, is going to go all in now so once donald trump takes office, whatever military objectives they have will be achieved as quickly as possible. so i think it's just a wait and see situation right now when it comes to at least the

israeli/gaza conflict. as far as syria is concerned, the takeover and the rebellion in syria pulverized this deeply entrenched dictatorship so quickly that everyone is recalibrating their approach to syria, you know, in record time, i think. and that again is a wait-and-see situation when it comes to how these rebels that do have roots with al qaeda will end up transitioning into another government in that country. >> thank you. and up next, a look at the economy as we head into a very uncertain new year. later in the hour, the beyonce bowl, that stunning halftime performance at last night's game that everyone is talking about. we have a lot more to get to. it don't go anywhere. 't go anywe you need to trade-in that old busted up phone and get you a brand new iphone 16 pro at t-mobile. it's on them. at t-mobile, it's better over here! families save 20% every month. what a deal!

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